ADL, you all are doing God glory and praise.. Thank you brothers for giving every anti adventists the reason for our hope.. May our God contininue to sharpennyour minds and ears to tell others that God hav called us out from darkness into His marvolous light.. Proud of what youre douling and proud of that Im an Adventist
It's very sad that we are so close to the end and all many of these so called Christians can do is criticize someone else's church. Instead they should be repentant and spreading the Gospel message. I'm so glad y'all are standing for Adventism and the SDA remnant Church and at the same time spreading the truth and straight testimony. Praise God always! 🙏
I commented to my Mom once, that the Church teaches troublesome times soon to come, but they appear to still be afar off. She just smiled at me and said, that’s because the Church doesn’t pose a threat to the Devil right now. But as I watch these videos and witness the growing opposition to the SDA Church; and the cadre of naysayers, Korah’s, Dathan’s, and Sanballat’s in the comments; I’m confident we’re on the right track. Thank you, @Advent Defense League! 🙏⚔️
@@alongcamejones309 ....Keep on reading ur Bible and watching ADL and God will convict u of the Truth as it is in Jesus. Jesus dwells with the humble and contrite of heart. Blessings.
A common problem, is that the fellow protestants and Catholics refuse to read the bible with their proper context, the same happens with EGW, they go at her writings and use quotes out of context... and this happens.
Thank you Advent Defense League, for your work on behalf of Bible Truth. God is using you all to study deeply, share, teach and restore His truths, even though satan raised up some agents who are trying to bury Them, God's Truths will reign forever. May you all be encouraged, I am praying for you,
Wow brother Jason!!! I have never heard Colossians 2 break down like the way you did; and you only used scriptures (for those who said that our belief is based on EGW writings). Blessings 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Anyone that says EGW is a false prophet. They have not really read her writing with true humility. The truth cannot, will not be clearly understood by selfish heart. This is the main reason, not only of today; but it has always been in all ages . People have rejected the messages of God through His prophets. So much that the Jews could not believe in Jesus as the messiah became they rejected God’s prophets admonition. Today, the Christian world is doing the same…Destruction will come to them who continue to reject the loving message of God through God’s prophets including EGW.
You are a liar. In Desire of Ages, a book Ellen did not write, Ellen proclaims that a created being, Satan, wrung ( twisted) the heart of Jesus and caused Jesus to doubt the efficacy of his sacrifice, and if the Father would accept His sacrifice. Do you affirm this proclamation?
Posted like a true indoctrinated cultist. Atheists with an understanding of Christianity can tell that the proclamations of Ellen are error. Her writings don’t become magically evident if a person is unselfish. They are what they are. Do you affirm this proclamation from daughter of the Devil Ellen: “ Man must be reconciled to God by obedience to his law and faith in Jesus Christ.” The lie is found in Testimonies to the Church volume 4 page 294 paragraph 2. We have examined the evidence and your prophetess fails the test of a prophet, and her testimony is gross error. She was a blasphemous heretic. You have absolutely zero biblical evidence that Christians are on probation and under a character investigation. You have been captured by a dangerous spiritual counterfeit. Run, get up and run. Stop being a naive simpleton and read Galatians, and then, run. Literally stand up, and run out of an Adventist indoctrination center. You will be running for your life. Oh, by the way, just so you know, Paul proclaimed he was given a ministry of reconciliation. At no time did Paul declare that the reconciliation process includes probation and an investigation that you may not pass. Reconciliation with God happens instantaneously when a repentant sinner practices faith in the complete and final atonement of Jesus at Calvary. A doctrine Adventist heretics waterboard torture.
Cult is a word that critics use so easily against a denomination that does not agree with their interpretation of the bible/ beliefs. Critics calling the SDA denomination a cult base their argument on the misguided and inaccurate information that SDAs hold EGWs writings above or equal to the bible. No matter how many critics argue this point, they are lying. They can argue that point until God comes and they will still be lying. They can repeat what they say a million times and it will still be a lie. In short, no matter how much this lie is peddled, it will not suddenly become true. What is sad is that some SDAs have abandoned EGWs inspired writings because of critics, when I watched a clip whereby a Jesuit Priest argued that her writings are inspired by God. Have you ever known a military personnel throw away a valuable piece of equipment because the opponent say that it is unfair to have it, whilst that opponent is holding onto all their equipment?
Powerful! I Love how you proved Col2v16 is talking about ceremonial sabbaths by showing those specific ceremonial sabbaths in Lev23 and not just declare without showing the specific ceremonial sabbaths as is oftenly done by many.
People like those harden their heart against God's word. 2 Peter 3:16-17. Paul says that these people are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE wrest (distort the meaning or interpretation of God's word to SUIT their OWN interests) Hebrews 3 & 4 said that people that HARDEN their heart against God's word will NOT entet the promised land of test. Revelation 14:12-13: Only those who keep the commandments of GOD, including the 7th day Sabbath, will enter into heaven.
happy preparation day! I am glad there is an adventist defender..I grow up bully of being an adventist like a cult because I have lots of beliefs and not eating their favorite pork meat.
Moreover, to understand these sabbaths and feasts, one has to visit the sanctuary and check what was inside the ark and what was besides besides (outside) the ark. The laws written by God himself were under the shaking glory, and the laws written by Moses were placed outside, besides the ark in the most holy place.
What Bible program do you use for study? I love that you can immediately find the verses in different versions, commentary, and concordance. What do I need to download?
If the laws in the so-called "old covenant" define what constitutes a cult, then by that logic, Paul, who is Jewish, would be considered part of a "cult."
It should be clear that "the Sabbath of the Lord" is distingly articulated in Exo 20:8 as opposed to the sabbaths explained in Leviticus chapter 23 and 25.
The clip where the guy is saying that SDA was a not a denomination is silly. He is trying to portray the fact that he is very knowledgeable about the Adventist faith therefore, all viewers need to take his word for every untruth he spouts about the SDA faith thus, all should not touch the faith. Where he is he getting his ideas from, as he clearly does not know his bible.
Why would Jesus who declare with His own mouth that He is the Lord also of the Sabbath not clearly states that after His resurrection, or even before His crucifixion, henceforth I want the new Sabbath that I created and sanctified be honored on Sunday?? Should He not clearly stated that He now wants His followers to worship Him and rest on the first day of the week? Why Would God who sees the end from the beginning allow to be worship on the day, He prophesied through His servant Daniel, that papal Rome would change and rooted from paganism??
How is it that the Bible distinctly says the 7th Day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God, and the Catholic Church and the Pope in or near the year 336 AD declared the Sunday was the “New Sabbath”? Sunday has always been the 1st day or the week. This proves without a doubt that the Catholic Church created a “False Sabbath, (Sunday). Protestant means protesting, what are the Protestants protesting? The dictates of the Catholic Church. The Biggest false teaching of the Catholic Church is the 1st day “sabbath” ie: SUNDAY. So WHY do most Protestant Christians go to church on the Catholic sabbath? Check history see if I am mistaken!
Ellen White said that SDA church poses as a rebuke to both Catholic and Protestant churches by pointing out their hypocrisy and errors through uplifting the day hollowed by our Lord. ( I am paraphrasing)
@@mattfred.12 Mary thought Jesus was the gardener. When she realized it was Jesus she called Jesus Lord. That’s worship. It’s the Adventist mongrel dog golden calf idol day. I’m on a baseball field. I’m going to hell according to you. You are disgusting
You are delusional and an idolater. You worship the table of contents of the whole book of Jewish law like a golden calf idol. You are a weird idolater
My question to this brother and his Evangelical brothers and sisters, are they following the Bible as the disciples did? Paul said follow me as I follow Christ!! Is it the Evangelical setting the standard for us to follow? Are is it the word of God, that is the standard for Christian to follow?
what is the standard the Evangelicals are setting? and where are they getting their source material if not from the Bible? The only standard should be the word of God.
In Acts 21, when Paul arrived in Jerusalem, he was accompanied by some believers from Caesarea (v. 15) and was warmly welcomed there (v. 17). The following day, Paul met with James and all the elders of the Jerusalem church, where he shared with them all that God had accomplished among the Gentiles through his ministry (v. 18). When they heard this, they praised God and informed Paul, saying, "You know, dear brother, how many thousands of Jews have also believed, and they all follow the Law of Moses very seriously" (v. 20). However, they also told Paul that many Jewish believers in Jerusalem had been informed that Paul was teaching all the Jews living among the Gentiles to abandon the laws of Moses (v. 21). Paul was being falsely accused by his fellow Jews of teaching them not to circumcise their children or follow other Jewish customs. The elders were eager to hear from Paul directly to determine if these accusations were true. So, they advised Paul to send four Nazarite men who had completed their vows to join in the purification ceremony, so that everyone would know that the rumors were false and that they still observed the Jewish laws (vv. 23-24). The next day, when they went to the Temple, the ritual had already begun, so Paul publicly announced the date when their vows would end and sacrifices would be offered for each of them to prove that the rumors claiming they no longer observed the Jewish laws were untrue (v. 26).
Their false teaching of there’s no atonement in the heavenly sanctuary because it was once and for all fulfilled at the cross is because they do not study the earthly sanctuary service. It is also in line with their false belief of once save is always saved.
Again they take verses out of context and use one word or two from the verse to justify their false teachings. Each time the New Testament mentions assembling of the believers or disciples, it was never for worship.
When he said all of Christianity is a cult 😂👀…. I guess I’m not the only one who wondered that based on the definition. Cult doesn’t have to be a bad word just because it has four letters and sounds harsh to our ears
There is only one Church NOT Denominations from the Day of Pentecost through the born-again experiences of water and Holy Spirit baptisms (John3: 3, 5 and Acts 19: 2-6)
My brothers!!! I’ve always said. People like Myles Christian and others quote Ellen White way more than even you guys. When I’m witnessing to others I never see the need to quote Ellen G White!
You don't understand that your interpretation of scripture is the interpretation of EGW. So even though you don't directly quote her, you tell people, "This is what the Bible teaches", then you proceed to state the interpretation of EGW. For example, people will say that the Bible teaches we should strive to be as healthy as possible by avoiding eating meat, because we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, so we should take care of our bodies. You see, that sounds true, and I didn't quote EGW, But I just stated her interpretation of scripture, which is a doctrine of demons, according to 1 Timothy 4 This tactic is what ADL does to their listeners. They too say, they don't even quote EGW, but they teach her interpretation of scripture, which is false
I'm really done trying to help you guys because you never even understand my points. For instance, Dr.Jason shows the fundamental belief (1:54:00 to end of the stream) that says "The Bible is the foremost standard for the SDA church." Then, similarly Dr.Jason shows Ellen White saying "Don't believe me unless what I said aligns with the Bible." And Dr.Jason tried to logically present these 2 quotes as ways to establish both the SDA church and Ellen White ONLY prioritize the Bible to establish truth. I then, used his exact same logic to show him if an accused murderer tells the cops "I didn't kill anyone because I don't kill people", that 1 quote from the accused murderer DOES NOT logically mean everyone who says those words is INNOCENT. My entire premise was to demonstrate we all can say empty words and just saying something definitely doesn't exalt us from future accountability in situations where we may violate what we claimed we abide by. I'm only stating universal logic that we ALL should understand. For instance, taking a wedding vow doesn't equate to always abiding by the vows when you get caught at a motel with a prostitute! I could give another million instances, I assumed the "Accused murder" was clear because 99% of accused murderers at least say "They are innocent" when they are initially accused by the cops. Thus, my entire premise was establishing the universal truth that just saying something is not a way to exonerate yourself from future situations when there are contradictions, and what you are saying doesn't align with the Bible. For instance, this very show the 1844 doctrine that SDA teaches claims "Jesus did NOT enter the MOST HOLY PLACE" at the time of the cross or even the ascension 40 days later. Yet, the same book of Hebrews chapters 9 to 12 that was read on this show teaches Jesus did his 1 sacrifice at minimum by the time the book of Hebrews was written by. Let alone the other Scriptures telling us Jesus sat down at the Right Hand of God after, and basic Trinitarian logic that God himself is not separated from the Most Holy Place in Heaven. Jesus is literally said to have ascended "Above the Heavens." So, when I point out on this very show a blatant non-sequitur about the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote as being ways to establish SDA and Ellen White never teach unbiblical doctrines, I literally highlighted the 1844 doctrine proves my point. I don't need to even get into Daniel 8:14 because obviously I disagree with the reasons SDA gets 2,300 years and 1844 to begin with! To keep this concise I'm just highlighting saying "Jesus did NOT enter the MOST HOLY PLACE when he made his 1 time sacrifice" is clear evidence the teaching is unbiblical! Yet, instead of understanding anything I said, even the "Accused murderer" logic gets argued with because Deonte doesn't understand my point. Then, Deonte says anyone who disagrees with him or SDA are acting like the devil! Which just shows an inability to even have a conversation. Anyways, that was my last attempt at objectively thinking during these livestreams. I'm tired of getting the strawman characterizations of my comments, and I definitely don't need the "Devil is in chat" slander. If you disagree, fine. I don't call you the devil for teaching Jesus didn't enter the MOST HOLY PLACE until 1844. I call you wrong! If the comment section is only supposed to be echo-chamber of people agreeing with everything you guys say, just say that! There's a big difference between disagreeing on Biblical ideas, and being the devil! Thus, I have taken the hint anything that disagrees in the chat, is apparently unwanted thought! So, unless you guys want to setup shows where we are both on the stream at the same time on this channel or my channel, I'm not going to bother trying to talk to you in the comments. It's clearly a waste of time, and doesn't do anything but get my name and points misrepresented from lack of understanding! If I can verbally defend myself, I'll still conversate with you guys. However, clearly my chat comments are not communicating clearly for some reason. The fact the "Accused murderer" logic was misrepresented shows trying to type ideas to you guys is disconnected for some reason. I have no idea what was hard to understand about that logic. Bottom line, is just having a fundamental belief or just having a quote from Ellen White, doesn't create immunity from scrutiny when teachings appear unbiblical to people like myself! A cheating husband doesn't get to just tell his wife he took a vow at their wedding, so he's innocent of cheating when he's caught at the motel with a prostitute! So, the ONLY question is if cheating occurred, not whether the husband took a vow at the wedding. That's why i said using the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote about the Bible is the only authority, is a logical non-sequitur to use to defend against all future accusations of POSSIBLE non- Biblical teachings. So, each teaching needs to be addressed on a case by case basis. Every case doesn't get thrown out of court because of Fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote (i don't care if she has 100 quotes).
In the stream it was shown that EGW said to put the Bible above her words. If you believe she is lying, you have to show proof where she said to put her words above the Bible. Do you know of a quote of hers that says that?
@thatnicekid04 I can give you tons of Ellen White writings that are unbiblical doctrines that Ellen White is claiming God showed her the information. I've already proven on other posts this point from Ellen White's food writings alone. For instance, Ellen White will say something like "The light has shown me for 30 years eating meat is morally evil" (paraphrased). I can copy and paste a bunch of her food writings like that. Ellen White's food writings are saying eating meat will hurt your soul. Jesus's words say "Nothing that goes into the mouth defiles." So, clearly, Ellen White's food writings are not aligned with the Bible. So, I'm judging her by her own suggestion against Scripture, and telling you her food writings alone are not prophetic words of God. Yet, Ellen White says "The light showed me _____" in those same food writings. That's the definition of being a fake prophet. I can easily copy & paste ALL these verbatim quotes, but I'm trying to keep the comment concise. Here's just 10 of Ellen White's food writings that violate Scripture (you can look up yourself). (644; 650; 652; 653; 656; 657; 658; 660; 675; 680). My point is having a fundamental belief or Ellen White having a quote that says "Don't believe me, only believe the Bible" is a logical non-sequitur to use in a discussion to try to argue SDA never follow Ellen White instead of the Bible. It's essentially just a quote that sounds good until you realize nobody actually abides by it. Otherwise, the SDA food position would follow Jesus's teachings, and ZERO SDA people would advocate against eating meat, or drinking tea/coffee, ect. And the food writings are just 1 topic where this occurs. The same behavior occurs through basically EVERY Ellen White writing where SDA exegete the Bible through Ellen White's writings version of her exegesis. For instance, the Mark of the beast doctrine is something Ellen White wrote about in-depth, and she incorrectly teaches "A Sunday law" is somehow in Revelation. It's not like every SDA has their own individual view on the Mark of the beast. Literally, EVERY SDA I ever spoke with thinks the Mark of the beast is the incorrect Sunday Law doctrine. So, what Ellen White wrote has become the standard way for SDA to exegete Revelation. Mathematically speaking, if every SDA just read Revelation independently, there would be mixed ideas on the Mark of the beast, and the entire denomination wouldn't ALL agree on what they thought the Mark of the beast doctrine is. So, clearly Scripture is not where everyone gets the "Sunday law" doctrine. Even early SDA disagreed with Ellen White like "Elder Wellcome" who Ellen White mentions in "MOB 3.2" writings. This proves over the last 100 years, the SDA position has now become Ellen White's position. Clearly, Elder Wellcome who didn't know what the Mark of the beast is, is not the current opinion amongst modern SDA. I agree with Elder Wellcome that not claiming to KNOW what the Mark of the beast is, is the wisest way to understand Revelation. Yet, Ellen White tries to mock Elder Wellcome and scare people into following her in (MOB 3.2) because she illogically argues that a person who doesn't know what the Mark of the beast is, can't logically tell her "The Sunday Law" doctrine is wrong. Which again, is another blatant logical non-sequitur. For instance, do i need to know what (23,765 × 134,987=) is in order to tell you that (7) is the wrong answer? Of course not. I can demonstrate this logic in a million different ways, throughout every genre of knowledge on Earth. Yet, in Ellen White's MOB 3.2 writing she literally thinks Elder Wellcome isn't qualified to tell other SDA the Mark of the beast isn't the "Sunday law" just because he was honest and humble enough to not claim to know what the Mark of the beast is in Revelation. I don't see the "Sunday law" doctrine anywhere in Revelation's Mark of the beast writings. I personally don't even know what the Mark of the beast is. Those are just 2 topics where Ellen White's writings make ALL SDA believe or practice things that are not in Scripture, but are interpretations from Scripture. It's honestly mathematically impossible with hundreds of thousands, or millions of SDA worldwide, for ALL these people to interpret those 2 doctrines without a common reason (Ellen White's writings) that are outside the Scripture itself. So, I can show you more topics that also substantiate that the SDA CHURCH is collectively using Ellen White's writings to create the SDA VIEW on the Scripture. When if the fundamental belief and Ellen White quote that was read on the show was actually being practiced, there would be mixed ideas from SDA believer's about the Mark of the beast, and food writings. Granted, food wise at least every SDA doesn't subscribe to Ellen White's strict dietary writings, however ALL SDA still defend her food writing ideas. I've yet to hear an SDA person say, Ellen White is contradicting Jesus and the Bible by her food writings! Food is a hard thing for everyone to agree on because people obviously eat different things. The point is Ellen White's food writings have still persuaded many SDA to be plant-based, and Scripture is not where that teaching came from. The SDA Mark of the beast doctrine is a perfect example of what I'm saying my point is because the SDA CHURCH is near 100% in agreement over the "Mark of the beast." So, how is Scripture the standard if Scripture is undefined on the Mark of the beast? If Scripture was the standard, the SDA view would be "Scripture doesn't define what the Mark of the beast is." Do you realize saying "The Mark of the beast is a Sunday law" requires taking uncertain variables to form a thesis opinion? This is not like answering "How many Wise men went to visit baby Jesus?" Scripture information is uncertain about the Mark of the beast doctrine. I could show you Ellen White's writings have a similar impact on the rest of the SDA'S views, also. Essentially, Ellen White's writings become the way SDA filter their own Biblical exegesis through. The fundamental belief 18 they read on this show admits what I just said is true. She's collectively recognized as a prophet, not individually tested by every SDA to determine if she's a prophet. Otherwise not even SDA would view Ellen White as a prophet. Yet, I've yet to hear ANY SDA I've ever met call a false prophet! So, is Scripture identifying Ellen White as a true prophet? Again, from Ellen White's food writings alone I can demonstrate she's a false prophet because her food writings contradict the Biblical food writings! It's not hard to see. So, circling back to my original comment, I am saying BOTH the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote are irrelevant because the SDA VIEWS don't strictly come from the Bible. I just proved my premise by using Ellen White's food writings and Ellen White's Mark of the beast writing. So, even though I could show other topics, I don't even have to in order to justify my point any further. Even 1 instance is evidence of why I said that the fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote is a non-sequitur. Again, catching a married man with a prostitute once, proves his wedding vow doesn't equate to abiding by his oath to be faithful until death. Similarly, showing even 1 topic where SDA idealogy is shaped from Ellen White's writings instead of the Bible, show the Scripture is not the origin of all SDA views. Both Edwin and Kevin Morgan are plant based because of Ellen White, not because of what Jesus taught about food. Similarly, EVERY SDA subscribes to the same "Mark of the beast" doctrine because of Ellen White's writings, not because Scripture teaches every SDA person a "Sunday law" is the Mark of the beast. If you wanted me to give more SDA IDEALOGIES thar are from Ellen White, not Scripture, I would use ideas like "Present truth", or things like that too. Let alone, digging for a bunch of exegetical similarities that require a 3rd party authority. The collective SDA usage of "Present truth" is another obvious demonstration of why I adamantly disagreed with fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote as a logical reason I should think ALL SDA ideas origin is the Bible! I don't think I said anything radical by stating the obvious that Ellen White's writings are at times unbiblical views, and the SDA church still defends those views. I've heard exactly 0 SDA tell me "Ellen White is a false prophet."
@@thatnicekid04 I wrote you a very long response, but RUclips didn't post it. I'm not going to bother trying to type it again. However, Ellen White's food writings alone and the Mark of the beast doctrine both prove my argument. Just read Ellen White's food writings from 644 to 680. And read Ellen White's Mark of the beast doctrine. Both those writings shape SDA thought on food and the Mark of the beast. The Bible itself teaches different things on both food and the Mark of the beast. Ellen White's eating meat is morally evil and Sunday law is Mark of the beast doctrine both don't come from the Bible. So, if you want specifics where SDA are following Ellen White's opinions instead of Scripture alone, there's 2 obvious ones. I'm not going to rewrite all the in-depth reasoning I just had in my 1st comment
@@747_RyanGod clearly taught His perfect diet in the garden of Eden. I pray for strength to live according to His plan. He also clearly teaches that the beast of prophecy in Daniel and Revelation is the papacy and that all will be forced to worship according to the beast (Daniel 7 and Revelation 13). History tells us the beast changed the sabbath. This fact is recorded in their councils and cathechisms. And the Roman Catholic Church calls this their “Mark of ecclesiastical authority.” No need to even quote EG White. The Bible is enough. 🙏🏻
@@juligraham7319 Did Jesus not get the memo on the perfect diet? Did Jesus teach what you just said in Matthew 6, Matthew 15, ect? All you are doing is reinforcing my point that Ellen White's food writings are your standard, not Jesus's food writings! Do you strive to be a nudist like Adam & Eve in the Garden, also? Remember when they realized they were naked was after eating the fruit. So, your hermeneutic would logically lead you to thinking nudists are optimally righteous, too (If you are consistent). Again, I would use Jesus's teachings in Matthew 6 to understand where clothes fall in the Christian faith. Regardless, Luke 15 the Prodigal Son story from Jesus doesn't seem to understand the celebration of the Son returning to life should only consist of fruit. Jesus was the one speaking in Luke 15 if you were curious about who taught the "Slaughter the fattened calf" aspect of the story. I'm not going to bother trying to reason with you about what the Bible actually says about food. You can follow your Ellen White writings about food. Jesus's words are the only thing I use to determine what food I'll eat. Jesus ate fish after he was resurrected, did he only eat the fish in his heavenly body because he was still on Earth? Wouldn't Jesus only eat fruit at that point according to your view?
Did not Jesus have an answer when he was asked, “what must I do to be save?” He said believe on me. I’m sorry, I’m not a bible scholar, but I understand clear and simple instructions. Our savior did not say, in John 14:15, if you want to be saved, keep my commandments. He said, IF you LOVE ME, keep my commandments.” He reveals to us outright that His ppl will keep his commandments. Do we believe on him when we teach something different?? Our obedience is our thank you and cooperation with God. Ppl’s argument over “works” is from a mentality that holds on to the trifling side of our human nature to still do our thing while not being fully converted in all that we say AND DO. To these ppl, they will hear, “out to the outer darkness you go…cursed are you, you wicked and slothful servant.” I desire to be counted among the saved and that when I get to heaven, I want to hear, “WELL DONE, my good and faithful servant.”
Everything else are okay to me but the Sabbath does not have to be on Saturday because of the reason being that there are many different calendars in the past until the Gregorian Calendar so what becomes of them in the past who had different days to observe Sabbath with because of their geographic positions on earth hence calendars. I believe we observe Sabbath for convenience but it has to be a 7th Day so Sunday is a SEVENTH day for us as Saturday is for the SDAs. Technically do the Sunday Sabbath Keepers break or sin because of the 4th Law. This is also becuase we have two weekend days so have the right to choose whatever day for Sabbath; reading also from Romans 14: 5-6
Colosions 2v16 is misguiding if quoted in KJV Jason, even Dr Ron talks about it. NKJV and NASB render Col2v16 accurately. Kjv says THE sabbath days, it supplies the definite article not found in the original, that will make it the 7th day sabbath. But the original reads like NKJV (sabbaths) or NASB (a sabbath), those are the only correct options given by the concordances. The word for sabbath there is a collective singular, meaning it can work as either singular or plural like the word fish, can refer to one, or plenty of 🐟 fish. So yes, Paul was saying let no man judge you about "sabbaths" NKJV or "a sabbath " NASB, found in the handwriting of ordinances.
I was following you brothers pretty good until the Elder made a statement about Moses being in HEAVEN?? How in God's Kingdom to come (which will be established on earth) can you interpret this from scripture? The Comment was made between the 1:08 and 1:10 marks: John 3:13 13 And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Yes, Moses may have been partially transfigured, but The Most High can't lie. It is clearly stated in Deuteronomy that Moses is bured: Deuteronomy 34:4-6 King James Version 4 And the Lord said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither. 5 So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. 6 AND HE BURIED HIM IN A VALLEY IN THE LAND OF MOAB, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. Even THE MAN AFTER THE MOST HIGH'S OWN HEART is NOT IN THE 3RD HEAVEN: Acts 2:29 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is BOTH DEAD AND BURIED, AND HIS SEPULCHRE IS WITH US UNTO THIS DAY. Acts 2:34-35 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Shalom; Blessed, Peaceful Sabbath.
John 3:13 is not a statement about God not taking people to Heaven. There are examples in the Bible of people who have been there like Enoch, Elijah, and the multitude that Jesus took with Him as shown in Ephesians 4:8. John 3:13 was Jesus answering that question in Proverbs 30. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? The context was about being able to understand Heavenly things. In John 3, Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus that Nicodemus barely understood early things, so how could he understand Heavenly. Jesus in quoting Proverbs 30 was showing that He is the Son of God and the only one who could declare Heavenly things.
@@thatnicekid04 he stated that Moses is in heaven. Is there scripture that clearly support and states from the mouth of The Most High that Moses is currently in Heaven? John 6:38-40;44 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should RAISE IT UP AT THE LAST DAY. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.
@@scotts5658when Jesus was transfigured in Matthew 17 Moses and Elijah were there with Him. Matthew 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. It doesn't make sense that Jesus was talking to dead people. So they must be alive. They must already have their immortal bodies.
There are different levels of Heaven, which can be better understood when you read the word, in it's context and study the related subject in the Apocrypha. The Highest level of Heaven is at the right hand of God, in His Temple, which is where Jesus ascended to. The apocrypha speaks of a lower level of Heaven, which is called "Paradise". This is where all the prophets, such as Elijah and Moses went upon death. Also known as "Abraham's bosom". Jesus spoke about Paradise in His Parable, and to the thief on the cross. The lowest level of Heaven is Gehenna, which is where the rich man went, in the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Gehenna, and the higher levels of Heaven are also known as purgatory. Gehenna can also be known as Hell. But not the same as the Lake of Fire, which is The Eternal HELL, damnation, without hope, and this is all taken from in depth study of the WHOLE Bible, along with the Apocrypha, which Protestants removed, because they hate the idea of Hell and Purgatory 😊
If dietary laws were abolished that would mean I don’t have to follow God’s wisdom and I’m at liberty to now eat what God forbade me to eat. So if this was the case I could eat the fish that God once said don’t eat correct? So that means I can eat the Pufferfish which many still die eating it prepared by the most trained chefs. The puffer fish has a neurotoxin that is 1,200 times more potent than cyanide. It would mean I can eat a Korean dish called Sannakji a young live octopus in some cases and eating the tentacles 🐙 It would mean I can eat blood clams which is an animal known to have hepatitis because it soaks up pathogens like a sponge many people die from eating these clams and 15% chance you will get sick. It means I can eat snakes which carry venom it means I could eat bats like some people do which National Georgraphic and science considered the create with the most diseases in the world. But wait didn’t God say specifically we should not eat this creature ? So should I stick with what God says and believe his dietary laws or should I believe the guy in the video who teaches the dietary laws were abolished? I’m going to stick with the word of God and believe that we should continue to keep the dietary laws because they are God’s prescription of wisdom. Colossians 2 is not talking about dietary laws but it’s referring to food and drinks that had to do with the ceremonial laws. The unclean animals are still unclean and not to be consumed. Even John in the last book of the Bible used the word “ unclean birds” to use as an analogy in comparing the dark side. Why would John still use the word “ unclean” if the animal kingdom had no longer any unclean animals and all was good to consume? Just like we have unclean spirits we still have unclean birds. These unclean birds have not been made clean and northern has the unclean beast or sea creatures.
The Bible says, there's no food unclean of itself until you make it unclean. All foods created by God are all good to be eaten so long as you receive it with thanks to God. They are all cleaned by the word and prayer of thanks.
@@mary-je7gb 1 Timothy 4:4 Is this the text you mean? If so, I do not believe this is what the text is saying. You cannot take just one verse and not use the context of the verses or chapters before or after. I read from Verse 1 (Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.” 1 Timothy 4:1-5 KJV) It is saying these are the words that those departing from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, speaking lies will say in order to undermine the laws of God. I still believe clean and unclean foods mentioned in Leviticus 11 still stands.
In Acts Chapters 21 to 24 Paul was arrested and FALSELY ACCUSED. FACTS OF THE CASE: THE COMPLAINANT: Ananias the High Priest and some of the Elders. THE PROSECUTOR: Tertullus- Ananias’ lawyer THE ACCUSED (DEFENDANT): Paul of Tarsus THE JUDGE: Governor Felix THE CHARGES AGAINST PAUL BY HIS FELLOW JEWS: 1. His teaching was against the “law of Moses” (God’s Law) and was against Jewish customs and the temple Acts 21:21-26 2. He was a troublemaker who was constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. Acts 24:5 3. A ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes. verse 5 4. Desecrating the temple. verse 6 THE PROCEEDINGS: Tertullus presented their case against Paul before Felix. “You have provided a long period of peace for us Jews and with foresight have enacted reforms for us. Acts 24:3 For all of this, Your Excellency, we are very grateful to you. 4 But I don’t want to bore you, so please give me your attention for only a moment. 5 We have found this man to be a troublemaker who is constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes. 6 Furthermore, he was trying to desecrate the Temple when we arrested him.[b] 8 You can find out the truth of our accusations by examining him yourself.” 9 Then the other Jews chimed in, declaring that everything Tertullus said was true. PAUL DEFENDED HIMSELF (with no lawyer): 10 . . . Paul said: “I know, sir, that you have been a judge of Jewish affairs for many years, so I gladly present my defense before you. 11 You can quickly discover that I arrived in Jerusalem no more than twelve days ago to worship at the Temple. 12 My accusers never found me arguing with anyone in the Temple, nor stirring up a riot in any synagogue or on the streets of the city. 13 These men cannot prove the things they accuse me of doing. 14 “But I admit that I follow the Way, which they call a cult. I worship the God of our ancestors, and I firmly believe in the Jewish law and everything written in the prophets. 15 I have the same hope in God that these men have, that he will raise both the righteous and the unrighteous. 16 Because of this, I always try to maintain a clear conscience before God and all people. 17 “After several years away, I returned to Jerusalem with money to aid my people and to offer sacrifices to God. 18 My accusers saw me in the Temple as I was completing a purification ceremony. There was no crowd around me and no rioting. 19 But some Jews from the province of Asia were there-and they ought to be here to bring charges if they have anything against me! 20 Ask these men here what crime the Jewish high council[c] found me guilty of, 21 except for the one time I shouted out, ‘I am on trial before you today because I believe in the resurrection of the dead!’” DID FELIX FIND HIM GUILTY OF THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM? Was Paul really a troublemaker? Did he really desecrate the Temple? Did he really teach contrary to the law of God and of Moses? Was he no longer keeping the Sabbath? (Actually, this was not a charge against him but a charge of most Evangelicals today) WAS HE GUILTY AS CHARGE? DID YOU FIND HIM GUILTY AS CHARGE? If that is so, then Paul deserves all the punishment!
You dig out dictionaries/commentaries to “prove” your point. However, I don’t hear a word about what is a covenant. You state several times we are under a new covenant. Not once have you defined there are two kinds of covenant, conditional, and unconditional. Is the New covenant conditional or unconditional? Not once do you discuss who God has made a covenant with. Sometimes with just one individual, sometimes with a nation, and sometimes with the whole world. New covenant - who is it with. Old covenant - who is it with. Covenants always have a start point. When did the Old Covenant start? When did the New Covenant start? You guys avoid that. You also lack any comments about what exactly is the old covenant. And if the old Covenant is what it is, it has been done away. May I state plainly my understanding of the Old Covenant includes the Sabbath. i.e. we are not obligated to observe the Sabbath. Prove me wrong. Not once have a read or heard an SDA clearly explain the old covenant. May I suggest Deut. 5 as a good starting point. Then look up the ten commandments, written on stone, and see what another name called those covenants. God did have a different name for the ten commandments. Then there is the SDA belief and others who may believe the same thing: there is nothing here as to what happens when there is a failure of a conditional covenant. Then there is the typical division of ceremonial law and moral law. What verse teaches ceremonial law? I can’t find the word ceremonial in the Bible. Maybe your translation does? That division is never taught in the Bible. The Greatest commandment (Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart…), is not one of the ten commandments. The second greatest commandment (thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself) is followed by a verse about can’t wear clothing with mixed fibers. Sounds like a ceremonial law passage to me, if I follow your moral/ceremonial division. Read Luke 2:22-24 and tell me there is a “ceremonial” law and a moral (God’s law). That you do away with one, and keep the other. The Bible puts all law together as one unit. Jesus never separated the “ceremonial” law and the moral law. Jesus never split the law - read Luke 24:44 “And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.” So what about the Law. You make big to do about what Jesus didn’t say. He didn’t say he came to destroy the law - and entirely miss what it means to fulfil the law. That is what he came to do. The Law would no longer be necessary because he would fulfil it. Even if you are going to divide the law into non Biblical parts, ceremonial and moral. What you eat is ceremonial law. Prove to me how what I eat is moral law. Your thoughts on baptism replacing circumcision is like some Protestants belief. Problem is, are you baptizing girls/women, because the law stated only the male was to be circumcised. We are told to rightly divide the word of truth (II Tim. 2:15) and you aren’t doing that. You were in Lev. 23: and all seven of those feast days are called Sabbaths. Do you observe them? As a Sabbath? Most of those feasts days are on Sunday, or some other day of the week. Then there is the Sabbath of years, where you are not to til the ground or plant. Do you observe that? Keeping the Sabbath - no fire in your home, sabbath’s day journey. You observe that? Cults are generally wrong on who Jesus is, and they have some restrictive laws. And you people have both of them.
Your Channel would serve God better by actually *preaching the Gospel, rather than bashing the SDA Church. Aren't you creating an anti SDA Church cult? Millions have been saved by the Ministry of the SDA Church. This Channel's bashing of the SDA Church does a grave disservice to God.
Can you explain how the Advent Defense League bashes the church? Every video, including this one, shows Biblical support for the beliefs of the church.
I think you are misunderstanding. Adventist Defense League is playing parts of a video by an SDA critic, but then showing why the critics are Biblically wrong.
A cult generally goes wrong on who Jesus is. So going to the Day of Atonement we first have the SDA Jesus isn't God. He has spent 180 years trying to figure out who are worthy of salvation, and he is not done yet. God knows everything, and even before creation He knew who would be written in the lamb's book of life. (It is the DAY of atonement, so there goes that 1day = 1year theory) Then we have the goat that is going to be slain. It was to be inspected, and would only qualify if there are no blemishes, spots, or physical problems. His blood was to be shed, and sprinkled on the mercy seat. That was done over 2,000 years ago. Heb_9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. But the SDA Jesus didn't get into the holy of Holies til 1844. Only a goat without spot or blemish or physical problems, was even allowed into the temple. So that goat to be sacrificed was perfect, representing Christ without sin. According to EGW the goat, who by "luck of the draw" was going to be taken into the wilderness (also clearly to die). So that goat HAD TO BE WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH, REPRESENTING SINLESSNESS. CLEARLY, the scapegoat was equivalent to the goat that was going to be slain and his blood to be applied to the Mercy Seat. She calls that scapegoat SATAN. So her Satan has to be equal to Jesus Christ - without spot or blemish. So maybe SDA want to contend their Jesus is sinless and without blemish, but they don't recognize that they make Satan equal to Christ. but clearly EGW makes them equal. But i understand they do make the comparison. So either Satan is just like Christ, without spot or blemish, or Jesus is a liar, and the father of lies just like Satan.
😊 you always talk about Ellen G White. Even some of SDA scholar's says her writings are plagiarized, and many of her vision hasn't come to pass, and one of the greatest demonic teaching she taught is "investigation judgement"; she said in heaven Jesus transfer the sins of people upon the head of atans, a sin bearer
You just wanted to say as much as possible all in one sentence huh? We've covered every one of those arguments multiple times. If you're new around here, sear h the videos lists. They are categorized in order of topic.
@@AdventDefenseLeaguehow’s probation going today, heretic? Perhaps your name came up yesterday and you failed the test. Now your pathetic life is a charade as your eternal destiny is already decided. You forgot to seek forgiveness for that pepperoni pizza. Naughty little cultish. Daughter of the devil Ellen wrote many words( ( actually Marian Davis and Fanny Bolton wrote the books Ellen just stole the royalties. So why the crybaby whining over a long sentence?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueyou have presented your pope’s interpretation of scripture. You haven’t explained anything. Exactly zero Adventist cultists understand the probation and investigation of Christians because it’s not in the Bible. Happy probation day, heretic.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueyou are a petty little boy masquerading as a man. A pathetic effeminate soy boy. Tell us right now, right here, where probation and investigation of redeemed saints is taught in holy writ. It’s your foundational doctrine. You should never miss an opportunity to proclaim your primary doctrine. Go ahead, I need a laugh.
Can you continue as a church without EGW? If you can, then l suggest you do. Because she will bring you no end of strife. She is the reason that eyes are upon you. She is a false prophet in my estimation.
@dallyjacobson2146 if she is a false prophet, yes. But she isn't. You'd have to prove she is first. Your question would be like asking the Israelites if they can reject a true prophet and continue on. God's answer to this is a resounding NO: 2 Chronicles 20:20 KJV - ...Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. Proverbs 29:18 KJV - Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. Romans 11:3 KJV - Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. Luke 11:47 KJV - Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
SDAs have tested her writings with scripture and find that she is legit. If a prophet is legit, it is a blessing for people to follow their counsel. But if you are not convinced that she is then it is fine for you to ignore her and follow the Bible. 2 Chronicles 20:20 ...Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. Ephesians 4: 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, *prophets;* and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Ellen White has a ton of good writings. Her writings are akin to John Wesley’s approach. Too many Christians today have followed the path of Calvinism or OSAS and are not familiar with the more Biblical Arminian theology.
Why do you say she is a false prophet? What did she say that was biblically inaccurate? She said we should look to the word of God above her writings and any other person. Was that wrong?
Sunday keeprers are already continueing to have church without whole books of the Bible like Daniel and Revelation so asking about having church without Ellen White is pretty bizarre!!!
U genuinely made Adventist more understanding to others in our teaching never stop Gentleman
ADL, you all are doing God glory and praise.. Thank you brothers for giving every anti adventists the reason for our hope..
May our God contininue to sharpennyour minds and ears to tell others that God hav called us out from darkness into His marvolous light..
Proud of what youre douling and proud of that Im an Adventist
This is why when they label me a member of a "cult," I take it as a compliment. If they label Paul, they surely can label me. (Acts.28.22)
yep, and they accursed Jesus of casting out demons using the power of Satan
It's very sad that we are so close to the end and all many of these so called Christians can do is criticize someone else's church. Instead they should be repentant and spreading the Gospel message. I'm so glad y'all are standing for Adventism and the SDA remnant Church and at the same time spreading the truth and straight testimony. Praise God always! 🙏
I commented to my Mom once, that the Church teaches troublesome times soon to come, but they appear to still be afar off. She just smiled at me and said, that’s because the Church doesn’t pose a threat to the Devil right now. But as I watch these videos and witness the growing opposition to the SDA Church; and the cadre of naysayers, Korah’s, Dathan’s, and Sanballat’s in the comments; I’m confident we’re on the right track. Thank you, @Advent Defense League! 🙏⚔️
Your are Not on the right path
If that is your belief, You should see what the devil as well as SDAs are doing to the Catholic Church 😮😅
@@alongcamejones309state the right path. I bet you can’t honestly defend what you think is the right path with Bible
@@86898689ut The SDA has way to many bad interpretations of Scripture. The supposed coming Sunday Law is just foolishness
@@alongcamejones309 ....Keep on reading ur Bible and watching ADL and God will convict u of the Truth as it is in Jesus. Jesus dwells with the humble and contrite of heart. Blessings.
A common problem, is that the fellow protestants and Catholics refuse to read the bible with their proper context, the same happens with EGW, they go at her writings and use quotes out of context... and this happens.
Thank you Advent Defense League, for your work on behalf of Bible Truth. God is using you all to study deeply, share, teach and restore His truths, even though satan raised up some agents who are trying to bury Them, God's Truths will reign forever. May you all be encouraged, I am praying for you,
Wow brother Jason!!! I have never heard Colossians 2 break down like the way you did; and you only used scriptures (for those who said that our belief is based on EGW writings). Blessings 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Isaiah 58:13,14 a special blessing promised for keeping the Sabbath
It was a blessing for Israel.
Amen!! Thank you for the clarity, Jesus is coming sooon!!!
Anyone that says EGW is a false prophet. They have not really read her writing with true humility. The truth cannot, will not be clearly understood by selfish heart. This is the main reason, not only of today; but it has always been in all ages . People have rejected the messages of God through His prophets.
So much that the Jews could not believe in Jesus as the messiah became they rejected God’s prophets admonition. Today, the Christian world is doing the same…Destruction will come to them who continue to reject the loving message of God through God’s prophets including EGW.
You are a liar. In Desire of Ages, a book Ellen did not write, Ellen proclaims that a created being, Satan, wrung ( twisted) the heart of Jesus and caused Jesus to doubt the efficacy of his sacrifice, and if the Father would accept His sacrifice. Do you affirm this proclamation?
Posted like a true indoctrinated cultist. Atheists with an understanding of Christianity can tell that the proclamations of Ellen are error. Her writings don’t become magically evident if a person is unselfish. They are what they are. Do you affirm this proclamation from daughter of the Devil Ellen: “ Man must be reconciled to God by obedience to his law and faith in Jesus Christ.” The lie is found in Testimonies to the Church volume 4 page 294 paragraph 2. We have examined the evidence and your prophetess fails the test of a prophet, and her testimony is gross error. She was a blasphemous heretic. You have absolutely zero biblical evidence that Christians are on probation and under a character investigation. You have been captured by a dangerous spiritual counterfeit. Run, get up and run. Stop being a naive simpleton and read Galatians, and then, run. Literally stand up, and run out of an Adventist indoctrination center. You will be running for your life. Oh, by the way, just so you know, Paul proclaimed he was given a ministry of reconciliation. At no time did Paul declare that the reconciliation process includes probation and an investigation that you may not pass. Reconciliation with God happens instantaneously when a repentant sinner practices faith in the complete and final atonement of Jesus at Calvary. A doctrine Adventist heretics waterboard torture.
@user-bs7db7il3w Do you know her to be a true prophet? If so, how did you determine that she was?
Her writings are according to Isaiah 8:20 and she passes the Biblical test of a true prophet. Also things she writes have come to pass
@@airplanefever9704 What biblical test?
Cult is a word that critics use so easily against a denomination that does not agree with their interpretation of the bible/ beliefs.
Critics calling the SDA denomination a cult base their argument on the misguided and inaccurate information that SDAs hold EGWs writings above or equal to the bible. No matter how many critics argue this point, they are lying. They can argue that point until God comes and they will still be lying. They can repeat what they say a million times and it will still be a lie. In short, no matter how much this lie is peddled, it will not suddenly become true.
What is sad is that some SDAs have abandoned EGWs inspired writings because of critics, when I watched a clip whereby a Jesuit Priest argued that her writings are inspired by God.
Have you ever known a military personnel throw away a valuable piece of equipment because the opponent say that it is unfair to have it, whilst that opponent is holding onto all their equipment?
Oh, Jesuits know. The leadership in Catholic Church knows Ellen White is the real deal. That is why so much criticism is poured on her.
You guys do a great job of making it plain!!
It's legalist that enforce Sunday worship.
Beautiful study. God bless!
Hi Julie
@@irasemafore8838 ha ha…Hi Irasema 💕
Thank u, guys, for doing this!! Keep it up! I love it. It helps me. Praying for u guys. Please Dont stop!
Powerful! I Love how you proved Col2v16 is talking about ceremonial sabbaths by showing those specific ceremonial sabbaths in Lev23 and not just declare without showing the specific ceremonial sabbaths as is oftenly done by many.
Happy Sabbath Brethren-from Manila❤🙏
¡Gracias!
Gracias a usted!
Keep the good work my brothers God bless you and give you more Amen
People like those harden their heart against God's word. 2 Peter 3:16-17. Paul says that these people are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE wrest (distort the meaning or interpretation of God's word to SUIT their OWN interests) Hebrews 3 & 4 said that people that HARDEN their heart against God's word will NOT entet the promised land of test. Revelation 14:12-13: Only those who keep the commandments of GOD, including the 7th day Sabbath, will enter into heaven.
happy preparation day! I am glad there is an adventist defender..I grow up bully of being an adventist like a cult because I have lots of beliefs and not eating their favorite pork meat.
Let them read Leviticus 11, the Bible says don't eat pork it's unclean
@@Lule8603read 1 Timothy!
Rebutting arguments following Jesus’s method: It is written…
Amen glory to the Lord. Blessings.
Moreover, to understand these sabbaths and feasts, one has to visit the sanctuary and check what was inside the ark and what was besides besides (outside) the ark. The laws written by God himself were under the shaking glory, and the laws written by Moses were placed outside, besides the ark in the most holy place.
Amen and Amen brother Jason 🙏🏾🙏🏾
MY DAUTER KEEPS CALLING IT THAT
Amen brother Deonte 🙏🏾
I wouldn't mind joining ADL, however I have big issues with the Facebook platform. Have you guys ever considered Discord for a platform?
We've considered it but haven't had the chance to start it up.
Guys look at Hebrews 4: 8
What Bible program do you use for study? I love that you can immediately find the verses in different versions, commentary, and concordance. What do I need to download?
E-Sword. It is free for Windows.
Thank you! Great study! Could you answer my previous question please?
Hi! We use esword. Its a free app that you can download
Thanks!
If the laws in the so-called "old covenant" define what constitutes a cult, then by that logic, Paul, who is Jewish, would be considered part of a "cult."
It should be clear that "the Sabbath of the Lord" is distingly articulated in Exo 20:8 as opposed to the sabbaths explained in Leviticus chapter 23 and 25.
The clip where the guy is saying that SDA was a not a denomination is silly. He is trying to portray the fact that he is very knowledgeable about the Adventist faith therefore, all viewers need to take his word for every untruth he spouts about the SDA faith thus, all should not touch the faith. Where he is he getting his ideas from, as he clearly does not know his bible.
Why would Jesus who declare with His own mouth that He is the Lord also of the Sabbath not clearly states that after His resurrection, or even before His crucifixion, henceforth I want the new Sabbath that I created and sanctified be honored on Sunday??
Should He not clearly stated that He now wants His followers to worship Him and rest on the first day of the week?
Why Would God who sees the end from the beginning allow to be worship on the day, He prophesied through His servant Daniel, that papal Rome would change and rooted from paganism??
That’s good presentation for Adventist’s
The pharisees are a perfect example of legalists.
How is it that the Bible distinctly says the 7th Day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God, and the Catholic Church and the Pope in or near the year 336 AD declared the Sunday was the “New Sabbath”? Sunday has always been the 1st day or the week. This proves without a doubt that the Catholic Church created a “False Sabbath, (Sunday). Protestant means protesting, what are the Protestants protesting? The dictates of the Catholic Church. The Biggest false teaching of the Catholic Church is the 1st day “sabbath” ie: SUNDAY. So WHY do most Protestant Christians go to church on the Catholic sabbath? Check history see if I am mistaken!
Ellen White said that SDA church poses as a rebuke to both Catholic and Protestant churches by pointing out their hypocrisy and errors through uplifting the day hollowed by our Lord. ( I am paraphrasing)
You are mistaken. The first Sunday worship was when Jesus walked out of a tomb. You are regurgitating Adventist propaganda. You are ignorant
@@rayray4192 bible verse for that?
@@mattfred.12 get a Bible out and read.
@@mattfred.12 Mary thought Jesus was the gardener. When she realized it was Jesus she called Jesus Lord. That’s worship. It’s the Adventist mongrel dog golden calf idol day. I’m on a baseball field. I’m going to hell according to you. You are disgusting
Very interesting 🤔
If we did not have the law the 10 commandments this world would be done away with long ago.
Yep u are right .
You are delusional and an idolater. You worship the table of contents of the whole book of Jewish law like a golden calf idol. You are a weird idolater
My question to this brother and his Evangelical brothers and sisters, are they following the Bible as the disciples did? Paul said follow me as I follow Christ!! Is it the Evangelical setting the standard for us to follow? Are is it the word of God, that is the standard for Christian to follow?
what is the standard the Evangelicals are setting? and where are they getting their source material if not from the Bible? The only standard should be the word of God.
In Acts 21, when Paul arrived in Jerusalem, he was accompanied by some believers from Caesarea (v. 15) and was warmly welcomed there (v. 17).
The following day, Paul met with James and all the elders of the Jerusalem church, where he shared with them all that God had accomplished among the Gentiles through his ministry (v. 18).
When they heard this, they praised God and informed Paul, saying, "You know, dear brother, how many thousands of Jews have also believed, and they all follow the Law of Moses very seriously" (v. 20).
However, they also told Paul that many Jewish believers in Jerusalem had been informed that Paul was teaching all the Jews living among the Gentiles to abandon the laws of Moses (v. 21).
Paul was being falsely accused by his fellow Jews of teaching them not to circumcise their children or follow other Jewish customs. The elders were eager to hear from Paul directly to determine if these accusations were true.
So, they advised Paul to send four Nazarite men who had completed their vows to join in the purification ceremony, so that everyone would know that the rumors were false and that they still observed the Jewish laws (vv. 23-24).
The next day, when they went to the Temple, the ritual had already begun, so Paul publicly announced the date when their vows would end and sacrifices would be offered for each of them to prove that the rumors claiming they no longer observed the Jewish laws were untrue (v. 26).
Their false teaching of there’s no atonement in the heavenly sanctuary because it was once and for all fulfilled at the cross is because they do not study the earthly sanctuary service. It is also in line with their false belief of once save is always saved.
The complete and finished Atonement is
Penal Gal. 3:13 ; 2 Cor. 5:21
Substitutionary Lev. 1:4 ; Isa. 53:5-6 ; 2 Cor. 5:21 ; 1 Pet. 2:24
Voluntary Jn. 10:18
Redemptive Gal. 3:13 ; Eph. 1:7 ; 1 Cor. 6:20
Propitiatory Romans 3:25
Reconciling 2 Cor. 5:18-19 ; Col. 1:21-22
Efficacious Jn. 12:32-33 ; Rom. 5:9-10 ; 2 Cor. 5:21 ; Eph.2:13 ; Heb. 9:11-12,26 ; Heb. 10:10-17 ; 1 Jn. 1:7 ; Rev. 1:5
Revelatory Jn. 3:16 ; Rom. 3:25-26 ; 1 Jn. 4:9-10
Praise God the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ whom I believe in! John 3:16-18
You just got here!
Psalms 111 : 7,8,10
Please explain what is a high day according to John19:31. Thanks.
Again they take verses out of context and use one word or two from the verse to justify their false teachings. Each time the New Testament mentions assembling of the believers or disciples, it was never for worship.
When he said all of Christianity is a cult 😂👀…. I guess I’m not the only one who wondered that based on the definition. Cult doesn’t have to be a bad word just because it has four letters and sounds harsh to our ears
There is only one Church NOT Denominations from the Day of Pentecost through the born-again experiences of water and Holy Spirit baptisms (John3: 3, 5 and Acts 19: 2-6)
My brothers!!! I’ve always said. People like Myles Christian and others quote Ellen White way more than even you guys. When I’m witnessing to others I never see the need to quote Ellen G White!
You don't understand that your interpretation of scripture is the interpretation of EGW. So even though you don't directly quote her, you tell people, "This is what the Bible teaches", then you proceed to state the interpretation of EGW. For example, people will say that the Bible teaches we should strive to be as healthy as possible by avoiding eating meat, because we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, so we should take care of our bodies.
You see, that sounds true, and I didn't quote EGW, But I just stated her interpretation of scripture, which is a doctrine of demons, according to 1 Timothy 4
This tactic is what ADL does to their listeners. They too say, they don't even quote EGW, but they teach her interpretation of scripture, which is false
I'm really done trying to help you guys because you never even understand my points. For instance, Dr.Jason shows the fundamental belief (1:54:00 to end of the stream) that says "The Bible is the foremost standard for the SDA church." Then, similarly Dr.Jason shows Ellen White saying "Don't believe me unless what I said aligns with the Bible." And Dr.Jason tried to logically present these 2 quotes as ways to establish both the SDA church and Ellen White ONLY prioritize the Bible to establish truth.
I then, used his exact same logic to show him if an accused murderer tells the cops "I didn't kill anyone because I don't kill people", that 1 quote from the accused murderer DOES NOT logically mean everyone who says those words is INNOCENT.
My entire premise was to demonstrate we all can say empty words and just saying something definitely doesn't exalt us from future accountability in situations where we may violate what we claimed we abide by. I'm only stating universal logic that we ALL should understand. For instance, taking a wedding vow doesn't equate to always abiding by the vows when you get caught at a motel with a prostitute! I could give another million instances, I assumed the "Accused murder" was clear because 99% of accused murderers at least say "They are innocent" when they are initially accused by the cops. Thus, my entire premise was establishing the universal truth that just saying something is not a way to exonerate yourself from future situations when there are contradictions, and what you are saying doesn't align with the Bible.
For instance, this very show the 1844 doctrine that SDA teaches claims "Jesus did NOT enter the MOST HOLY PLACE" at the time of the cross or even the ascension 40 days later. Yet, the same book of Hebrews chapters 9 to 12 that was read on this show teaches Jesus did his 1 sacrifice at minimum by the time the book of Hebrews was written by. Let alone the other Scriptures telling us Jesus sat down at the Right Hand of God after, and basic Trinitarian logic that God himself is not separated from the Most Holy Place in Heaven. Jesus is literally said to have ascended "Above the Heavens."
So, when I point out on this very show a blatant non-sequitur about the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote as being ways to establish SDA and Ellen White never teach unbiblical doctrines, I literally highlighted the 1844 doctrine proves my point. I don't need to even get into Daniel 8:14 because obviously I disagree with the reasons SDA gets 2,300 years and 1844 to begin with! To keep this concise I'm just highlighting saying "Jesus did NOT enter the MOST HOLY PLACE when he made his 1 time sacrifice" is clear evidence the teaching is unbiblical!
Yet, instead of understanding anything I said, even the "Accused murderer" logic gets argued with because Deonte doesn't understand my point. Then, Deonte says anyone who disagrees with him or SDA are acting like the devil! Which just shows an inability to even have a conversation.
Anyways, that was my last attempt at objectively thinking during these livestreams. I'm tired of getting the strawman characterizations of my comments, and I definitely don't need the "Devil is in chat" slander. If you disagree, fine. I don't call you the devil for teaching Jesus didn't enter the MOST HOLY PLACE until 1844. I call you wrong! If the comment section is only supposed to be echo-chamber of people agreeing with everything you guys say, just say that! There's a big difference between disagreeing on Biblical ideas, and being the devil!
Thus, I have taken the hint anything that disagrees in the chat, is apparently unwanted thought! So, unless you guys want to setup shows where we are both on the stream at the same time on this channel or my channel, I'm not going to bother trying to talk to you in the comments. It's clearly a waste of time, and doesn't do anything but get my name and points misrepresented from lack of understanding! If I can verbally defend myself, I'll still conversate with you guys. However, clearly my chat comments are not communicating clearly for some reason.
The fact the "Accused murderer" logic was misrepresented shows trying to type ideas to you guys is disconnected for some reason. I have no idea what was hard to understand about that logic. Bottom line, is just having a fundamental belief or just having a quote from Ellen White, doesn't create immunity from scrutiny when teachings appear unbiblical to people like myself! A cheating husband doesn't get to just tell his wife he took a vow at their wedding, so he's innocent of cheating when he's caught at the motel with a prostitute! So, the ONLY question is if cheating occurred, not whether the husband took a vow at the wedding.
That's why i said using the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote about the Bible is the only authority, is a logical non-sequitur to use to defend against all future accusations of POSSIBLE non- Biblical teachings. So, each teaching needs to be addressed on a case by case basis. Every case doesn't get thrown out of court because of Fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote (i don't care if she has 100 quotes).
In the stream it was shown that EGW said to put the Bible above her words. If you believe she is lying, you have to show proof where she said to put her words above the Bible.
Do you know of a quote of hers that says that?
@thatnicekid04 I can give you tons of Ellen White writings that are unbiblical doctrines that Ellen White is claiming God showed her the information. I've already proven on other posts this point from Ellen White's food writings alone. For instance, Ellen White will say something like "The light has shown me for 30 years eating meat is morally evil" (paraphrased). I can copy and paste a bunch of her food writings like that. Ellen White's food writings are saying eating meat will hurt your soul. Jesus's words say "Nothing that goes into the mouth defiles." So, clearly, Ellen White's food writings are not aligned with the Bible. So, I'm judging her by her own suggestion against Scripture, and telling you her food writings alone are not prophetic words of God. Yet, Ellen White says "The light showed me _____" in those same food writings. That's the definition of being a fake prophet. I can easily copy & paste ALL these verbatim quotes, but I'm trying to keep the comment concise. Here's just 10 of Ellen White's food writings that violate Scripture (you can look up yourself). (644; 650; 652; 653; 656; 657; 658; 660; 675; 680).
My point is having a fundamental belief or Ellen White having a quote that says "Don't believe me, only believe the Bible" is a logical non-sequitur to use in a discussion to try to argue SDA never follow Ellen White instead of the Bible. It's essentially just a quote that sounds good until you realize nobody actually abides by it. Otherwise, the SDA food position would follow Jesus's teachings, and ZERO SDA people would advocate against eating meat, or drinking tea/coffee, ect. And the food writings are just 1 topic where this occurs. The same behavior occurs through basically EVERY Ellen White writing where SDA exegete the Bible through Ellen White's writings version of her exegesis. For instance, the Mark of the beast doctrine is something Ellen White wrote about in-depth, and she incorrectly teaches "A Sunday law" is somehow in Revelation. It's not like every SDA has their own individual view on the Mark of the beast. Literally, EVERY SDA I ever spoke with thinks the Mark of the beast is the incorrect Sunday Law doctrine. So, what Ellen White wrote has become the standard way for SDA to exegete Revelation. Mathematically speaking, if every SDA just read Revelation independently, there would be mixed ideas on the Mark of the beast, and the entire denomination wouldn't ALL agree on what they thought the Mark of the beast doctrine is. So, clearly Scripture is not where everyone gets the "Sunday law" doctrine. Even early SDA disagreed with Ellen White like "Elder Wellcome" who Ellen White mentions in "MOB 3.2" writings. This proves over the last 100 years, the SDA position has now become Ellen White's position. Clearly, Elder Wellcome who didn't know what the Mark of the beast is, is not the current opinion amongst modern SDA. I agree with Elder Wellcome that not claiming to KNOW what the Mark of the beast is, is the wisest way to understand Revelation. Yet, Ellen White tries to mock Elder Wellcome and scare people into following her in (MOB 3.2) because she illogically argues that a person who doesn't know what the Mark of the beast is, can't logically tell her "The Sunday Law" doctrine is wrong. Which again, is another blatant logical non-sequitur. For instance, do i need to know what (23,765 × 134,987=) is in order to tell you that (7) is the wrong answer? Of course not. I can demonstrate this logic in a million different ways, throughout every genre of knowledge on Earth. Yet, in Ellen White's MOB 3.2 writing she literally thinks Elder Wellcome isn't qualified to tell other SDA the Mark of the beast isn't the "Sunday law" just because he was honest and humble enough to not claim to know what the Mark of the beast is in Revelation.
I don't see the "Sunday law" doctrine anywhere in Revelation's Mark of the beast writings. I personally don't even know what the Mark of the beast is.
Those are just 2 topics where Ellen White's writings make ALL SDA believe or practice things that are not in Scripture, but are interpretations from Scripture. It's honestly mathematically impossible with hundreds of thousands, or millions of SDA worldwide, for ALL these people to interpret those 2 doctrines without a common reason (Ellen White's writings) that are outside the Scripture itself. So, I can show you more topics that also substantiate that the SDA CHURCH is collectively using Ellen White's writings to create the SDA VIEW on the Scripture. When if the fundamental belief and Ellen White quote that was read on the show was actually being practiced, there would be mixed ideas from SDA believer's about the Mark of the beast, and food writings. Granted, food wise at least every SDA doesn't subscribe to Ellen White's strict dietary writings, however ALL SDA still defend her food writing ideas. I've yet to hear an SDA person say, Ellen White is contradicting Jesus and the Bible by her food writings! Food is a hard thing for everyone to agree on because people obviously eat different things. The point is Ellen White's food writings have still persuaded many SDA to be plant-based, and Scripture is not where that teaching came from.
The SDA Mark of the beast doctrine is a perfect example of what I'm saying my point is because the SDA CHURCH is near 100% in agreement over the "Mark of the beast." So, how is Scripture the standard if Scripture is undefined on the Mark of the beast? If Scripture was the standard, the SDA view would be "Scripture doesn't define what the Mark of the beast is." Do you realize saying "The Mark of the beast is a Sunday law" requires taking uncertain variables to form a thesis opinion? This is not like answering "How many Wise men went to visit baby Jesus?" Scripture information is uncertain about the Mark of the beast doctrine.
I could show you Ellen White's writings have a similar impact on the rest of the SDA'S views, also. Essentially, Ellen White's writings become the way SDA filter their own Biblical exegesis through. The fundamental belief 18 they read on this show admits what I just said is true. She's collectively recognized as a prophet, not individually tested by every SDA to determine if she's a prophet. Otherwise not even SDA would view Ellen White as a prophet. Yet, I've yet to hear ANY SDA I've ever met call a false prophet! So, is Scripture identifying Ellen White as a true prophet? Again, from Ellen White's food writings alone I can demonstrate she's a false prophet because her food writings contradict the Biblical food writings! It's not hard to see.
So, circling back to my original comment, I am saying BOTH the fundamental belief and Ellen White's quote are irrelevant because the SDA VIEWS don't strictly come from the Bible. I just proved my premise by using Ellen White's food writings and Ellen White's Mark of the beast writing. So, even though I could show other topics, I don't even have to in order to justify my point any further. Even 1 instance is evidence of why I said that the fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote is a non-sequitur. Again, catching a married man with a prostitute once, proves his wedding vow doesn't equate to abiding by his oath to be faithful until death. Similarly, showing even 1 topic where SDA idealogy is shaped from Ellen White's writings instead of the Bible, show the Scripture is not the origin of all SDA views. Both Edwin and Kevin Morgan are plant based because of Ellen White, not because of what Jesus taught about food. Similarly, EVERY SDA subscribes to the same "Mark of the beast" doctrine because of Ellen White's writings, not because Scripture teaches every SDA person a "Sunday law" is the Mark of the beast. If you wanted me to give more SDA IDEALOGIES thar are from Ellen White, not Scripture, I would use ideas like "Present truth", or things like that too. Let alone, digging for a bunch of exegetical similarities that require a 3rd party authority. The collective SDA usage of "Present truth" is another obvious demonstration of why I adamantly disagreed with fundamental belief 18 and Ellen White's quote as a logical reason I should think ALL SDA ideas origin is the Bible! I don't think I said anything radical by stating the obvious that Ellen White's writings are at times unbiblical views, and the SDA church still defends those views. I've heard exactly 0 SDA tell me "Ellen White is a false prophet."
@@thatnicekid04 I wrote you a very long response, but RUclips didn't post it. I'm not going to bother trying to type it again. However, Ellen White's food writings alone and the Mark of the beast doctrine both prove my argument. Just read Ellen White's food writings from 644 to 680. And read Ellen White's Mark of the beast doctrine. Both those writings shape SDA thought on food and the Mark of the beast. The Bible itself teaches different things on both food and the Mark of the beast. Ellen White's eating meat is morally evil and Sunday law is Mark of the beast doctrine both don't come from the Bible. So, if you want specifics where SDA are following Ellen White's opinions instead of Scripture alone, there's 2 obvious ones. I'm not going to rewrite all the in-depth reasoning I just had in my 1st comment
@@747_RyanGod clearly taught His perfect diet in the garden of Eden. I pray for strength to live according to His plan.
He also clearly teaches that the beast of prophecy in Daniel and Revelation is the papacy and that all will be forced to worship according to the beast (Daniel 7 and Revelation 13).
History tells us the beast changed the sabbath. This fact is recorded in their councils and cathechisms.
And the Roman Catholic Church calls this their “Mark of ecclesiastical authority.”
No need to even quote EG White. The Bible is enough. 🙏🏻
@@juligraham7319 Did Jesus not get the memo on the perfect diet? Did Jesus teach what you just said in Matthew 6, Matthew 15, ect?
All you are doing is reinforcing my point that Ellen White's food writings are your standard, not Jesus's food writings!
Do you strive to be a nudist like Adam & Eve in the Garden, also? Remember when they realized they were naked was after eating the fruit. So, your hermeneutic would logically lead you to thinking nudists are optimally righteous, too (If you are consistent). Again, I would use Jesus's teachings in Matthew 6 to understand where clothes fall in the Christian faith. Regardless, Luke 15 the Prodigal Son story from Jesus doesn't seem to understand the celebration of the Son returning to life should only consist of fruit. Jesus was the one speaking in Luke 15 if you were curious about who taught the "Slaughter the fattened calf" aspect of the story.
I'm not going to bother trying to reason with you about what the Bible actually says about food. You can follow your Ellen White writings about food. Jesus's words are the only thing I use to determine what food I'll eat. Jesus ate fish after he was resurrected, did he only eat the fish in his heavenly body because he was still on Earth? Wouldn't Jesus only eat fruit at that point according to your view?
Here is Paul being accused of his fellow Jew. Whom would you believe? The accused or the accuser?
Did not Jesus have an answer when he was asked, “what must I do to be save?” He said believe on me. I’m sorry, I’m not a bible scholar, but I understand clear and simple instructions. Our savior did not say, in John 14:15, if you want to be saved, keep my commandments. He said, IF you LOVE ME, keep my commandments.” He reveals to us outright that His ppl will keep his commandments. Do we believe on him when we teach something different?? Our obedience is our thank you and cooperation with God. Ppl’s argument over “works” is from a mentality that holds on to the trifling side of our human nature to still do our thing while not being fully converted in all that we say AND DO. To these ppl, they will hear, “out to the outer darkness you go…cursed are you, you wicked and slothful servant.” I desire to be counted among the saved and that when I get to heaven, I want to hear, “WELL DONE, my good and faithful servant.”
...is a cult equivalent to a "sect"?
Everything else are okay to me but the Sabbath does not have to be on Saturday because of the reason being that there are many different calendars in the past until the Gregorian Calendar so what becomes of them in the past who had different days to observe Sabbath with because of their geographic positions on earth hence calendars.
I believe we observe Sabbath for convenience but it has to be a 7th Day so Sunday is a SEVENTH day for us as Saturday is for the SDAs. Technically do the Sunday Sabbath Keepers break or sin because of the 4th Law. This is also becuase we have two weekend days so have the right to choose whatever day for Sabbath; reading also from Romans 14: 5-6
Some Bible study on food if interested
Sinless World Genesis 1: 26-31 ; 2: 8, 9, 15-17
After flood Noahic Covenant Genesis 8: 20-22 ; 9: 1-4, 8-17
Mosaic Covenant Exodus 34: 1-28 ; Leviticus 11 ; Deuteronomy 14 ; Deuteronomy 5: 1-6
New Covenant Jeremiah 31: 31-34 ; Hebrews 8: 8-13
Paul, Peter, Barnabas, Acts 9: 43 ; Acts 10 ; Acts 11 ; Acts 14: 24-28 ; Acts 15
John Mark
Paul correcting Peter Galatians 2: 11-14 ; Mark 7: 14-23 ------ The scribe's note makes sense because, Mark witnessing Paul rebuking Peter and Barnabas
and Barnabas before (v-19)
Mark's gospel was
written
New Covenant 1 Corinthians 8; 1-13: 10: 23-25 ; Colossians 2 ; 1 Timothy 4: 1-5 ; Romans 14
Colosions 2v16 is misguiding if quoted in KJV Jason, even Dr Ron talks about it. NKJV and NASB render Col2v16 accurately.
Kjv says THE sabbath days, it supplies the definite article not found in the original, that will make it the 7th day sabbath. But the original reads like NKJV (sabbaths) or NASB (a sabbath), those are the only correct options given by the concordances.
The word for sabbath there is a collective singular, meaning it can work as either singular or plural like the word fish, can refer to one, or plenty of 🐟 fish.
So yes, Paul was saying let no man judge you about "sabbaths" NKJV or "a sabbath " NASB, found in the handwriting of ordinances.
Test should be rest.
BETTER READ WEBSTERS DICTIONARY..
Couldn't Nations be called giant cults?
I was following you brothers pretty good until the Elder made a statement about Moses being in HEAVEN?? How in God's Kingdom to come (which will be established on earth) can you interpret this from scripture? The Comment was made between the 1:08 and 1:10 marks:
John 3:13
13 And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Yes, Moses may have been partially transfigured, but The Most High can't lie. It is clearly stated in Deuteronomy that Moses is bured:
Deuteronomy 34:4-6
King James Version
4 And the Lord said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.
5 So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord.
6 AND HE BURIED HIM IN A VALLEY IN THE LAND OF MOAB, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
Even THE MAN AFTER THE MOST HIGH'S OWN HEART is NOT IN THE 3RD HEAVEN:
Acts 2:29
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is BOTH DEAD AND BURIED, AND HIS SEPULCHRE IS WITH US UNTO THIS DAY.
Acts 2:34-35
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Shalom; Blessed, Peaceful Sabbath.
John 3:13 is not a statement about God not taking people to Heaven. There are examples in the Bible of people who have been there like Enoch, Elijah, and the multitude that Jesus took with Him as shown in Ephesians 4:8.
John 3:13 was Jesus answering that question in Proverbs 30.
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
The context was about being able to understand Heavenly things. In John 3, Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus that Nicodemus barely understood early things, so how could he understand Heavenly.
Jesus in quoting Proverbs 30 was showing that He is the Son of God and the only one who could declare Heavenly things.
@@thatnicekid04 he stated that Moses is in heaven. Is there scripture that clearly support and states from the mouth of The Most High that Moses is currently in Heaven?
John 6:38-40;44
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should RAISE IT UP AT THE LAST DAY.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY.
@@scotts5658when Jesus was transfigured in Matthew 17 Moses and Elijah were there with Him.
Matthew 17:3
And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
It doesn't make sense that Jesus was talking to dead people. So they must be alive. They must already have their immortal bodies.
@@scotts5658 check out this video by ADL...
ruclips.net/video/tWBAg_tgVmY/видео.htmlsi=OZhwnCtVPHhvxy3l
There are different levels of Heaven, which can be better understood when you read the word, in it's context and study the related subject in the Apocrypha.
The Highest level of Heaven is at the right hand of God, in His Temple, which is where Jesus ascended to.
The apocrypha speaks of a lower level of Heaven, which is called "Paradise". This is where all the prophets, such as Elijah and Moses went upon death. Also known as "Abraham's bosom". Jesus spoke about Paradise in His Parable, and to the thief on the cross. The lowest level of Heaven is Gehenna, which is where the rich man went, in the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Gehenna, and the higher levels of Heaven are also known as purgatory. Gehenna can also be known as Hell. But not the same as the Lake of Fire, which is The Eternal HELL, damnation, without hope, and this is all taken from in depth study of the WHOLE Bible, along with the Apocrypha, which Protestants removed, because they hate the idea of Hell and Purgatory 😊
If dietary laws were abolished that would mean I don’t have to follow God’s wisdom and I’m at liberty to now eat what God forbade me to eat. So if this was the case I could eat the fish that God once said don’t eat correct? So that means I can eat the Pufferfish which many still die eating it prepared by the most trained chefs. The puffer fish has a neurotoxin that is 1,200 times more potent than cyanide. It would mean I can eat a Korean dish called Sannakji a young live octopus in some cases and eating the tentacles 🐙 It would mean I can eat blood clams which is an animal known to have hepatitis because it soaks up pathogens like a sponge many people die from eating these clams and 15% chance you will get sick. It means I can eat snakes which carry venom it means I could eat bats like some people do which National Georgraphic and science considered the create with the most diseases in the world. But wait didn’t God say specifically we should not eat this creature ? So should I stick with what God says and believe his dietary laws or should I believe the guy in the video who teaches the dietary laws were abolished? I’m going to stick with the word of God and believe that we should continue to keep the dietary laws because they are God’s prescription of wisdom. Colossians 2 is not talking about dietary laws but it’s referring to food and drinks that had to do with the ceremonial laws. The unclean animals are still unclean and not to be consumed. Even John in the last book of the Bible used the word “ unclean birds” to use as an analogy in comparing the dark side. Why would John still use the word “ unclean” if the animal kingdom had no longer any unclean animals and all was good to consume? Just like we have unclean spirits we still have unclean birds. These unclean birds have not been made clean and northern has the unclean beast or sea creatures.
The Bible says, there's no food unclean of itself until you make it unclean. All foods created by God are all good to be eaten so long as you receive it with thanks to God. They are all cleaned by the word and prayer of thanks.
@@josephkirimi5453where does it say this in the bible?
@@INEEDYOUHolyspirit688read 1 Timothy!
@@INEEDYOUHolyspirit688 1Tim.4:4, Romans 14:14, 20,23, Acts 10:15, Mark 7:18-20.
@@mary-je7gb
1 Timothy 4:4 Is this the text you mean? If so, I do not believe this is what the text is saying. You cannot take just one verse and not use the context of the verses or chapters before or after.
I read from
Verse 1 (Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.”
1 Timothy 4:1-5 KJV)
It is saying these are the words that those departing from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, speaking lies will say in order to undermine the laws of God.
I still believe clean and unclean foods mentioned in Leviticus 11 still stands.
In Acts Chapters 21 to 24 Paul was arrested and FALSELY ACCUSED.
FACTS OF THE CASE:
THE COMPLAINANT: Ananias the High Priest and some of the Elders.
THE PROSECUTOR: Tertullus- Ananias’ lawyer
THE ACCUSED (DEFENDANT): Paul of Tarsus
THE JUDGE: Governor Felix
THE CHARGES AGAINST PAUL BY HIS FELLOW JEWS:
1. His teaching was against the “law of Moses” (God’s Law) and was against Jewish customs and the temple Acts 21:21-26
2. He was a troublemaker who was constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. Acts 24:5
3. A ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes. verse 5
4. Desecrating the temple. verse 6
THE PROCEEDINGS:
Tertullus presented their case against Paul before Felix.
“You have provided a long period of peace for us Jews and with foresight have enacted reforms for us.
Acts 24:3 For all of this, Your Excellency, we are very grateful to you.
4 But I don’t want to bore you, so please give me your attention for only a moment.
5 We have found this man to be a troublemaker who is constantly stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the cult known as the Nazarenes.
6 Furthermore, he was trying to desecrate the Temple when we arrested him.[b]
8 You can find out the truth of our accusations by examining him yourself.”
9 Then the other Jews chimed in, declaring that everything Tertullus said was true.
PAUL DEFENDED HIMSELF (with no lawyer):
10 . . . Paul said: “I know, sir, that you have been a judge of Jewish affairs for many years, so I gladly present my defense before you.
11 You can quickly discover that I arrived in Jerusalem no more than twelve days ago to worship at the Temple.
12 My accusers never found me arguing with anyone in the Temple, nor stirring up a riot in any synagogue or on the streets of the city.
13 These men cannot prove the things they accuse me of doing.
14 “But I admit that I follow the Way, which they call a cult. I worship the God of our ancestors, and I firmly believe in the Jewish law and everything written in the prophets.
15 I have the same hope in God that these men have, that he will raise both the righteous and the unrighteous.
16 Because of this, I always try to maintain a clear conscience before God and all people.
17 “After several years away, I returned to Jerusalem with money to aid my people and to offer sacrifices to God.
18 My accusers saw me in the Temple as I was completing a purification ceremony. There was no crowd around me and no rioting.
19 But some Jews from the province of Asia were there-and they ought to be here to bring charges if they have anything against me!
20 Ask these men here what crime the Jewish high council[c] found me guilty of,
21 except for the one time I shouted out, ‘I am on trial before you today because I believe in the resurrection of the dead!’”
DID FELIX FIND HIM GUILTY OF THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM?
Was Paul really a troublemaker?
Did he really desecrate the Temple?
Did he really teach contrary to the law of God and of Moses?
Was he no longer keeping the Sabbath? (Actually, this was not a charge against him but a charge of most Evangelicals today)
WAS HE GUILTY AS CHARGE? DID YOU FIND HIM GUILTY AS CHARGE?
If that is so, then Paul deserves all the punishment!
You dig out dictionaries/commentaries to “prove” your point. However, I don’t hear a word about what is a covenant. You state several times we are under a new covenant. Not once have you defined there are two kinds of covenant, conditional, and unconditional. Is the New covenant conditional or unconditional? Not once do you discuss who God has made a covenant with. Sometimes with just one individual, sometimes with a nation, and sometimes with the whole world. New covenant - who is it with. Old covenant - who is it with.
Covenants always have a start point. When did the Old Covenant start? When did the New Covenant start? You guys avoid that.
You also lack any comments about what exactly is the old covenant. And if the old Covenant is what it is, it has been done away. May I state plainly my understanding of the Old Covenant includes the Sabbath. i.e. we are not obligated to observe the Sabbath. Prove me wrong.
Not once have a read or heard an SDA clearly explain the old covenant.
May I suggest Deut. 5 as a good starting point. Then look up the ten commandments, written on stone, and see what another name called those covenants. God did have a different name for the ten commandments.
Then there is the SDA belief and others who may believe the same thing: there is nothing here as to what happens when there is a failure of a conditional covenant.
Then there is the typical division of ceremonial law and moral law. What verse teaches ceremonial law? I can’t find the word ceremonial in the Bible. Maybe your translation does? That division is never taught in the Bible. The Greatest commandment (Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart…), is not one of the ten commandments. The second greatest commandment (thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself) is followed by a verse about can’t wear clothing with mixed fibers. Sounds like a ceremonial law passage to me, if I follow your moral/ceremonial division.
Read Luke 2:22-24 and tell me there is a “ceremonial” law and a moral (God’s law). That you do away with one, and keep the other. The Bible puts all law together as one unit.
Jesus never separated the “ceremonial” law and the moral law. Jesus never split the law - read Luke 24:44 “And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.”
So what about the Law. You make big to do about what Jesus didn’t say. He didn’t say he came to destroy the law - and entirely miss what it means to fulfil the law. That is what he came to do. The Law would no longer be necessary because he would fulfil it.
Even if you are going to divide the law into non Biblical parts, ceremonial and moral. What you eat is ceremonial law. Prove to me how what I eat is moral law.
Your thoughts on baptism replacing circumcision is like some Protestants belief. Problem is, are you baptizing girls/women, because the law stated only the male was to be circumcised. We are told to rightly divide the word of truth (II Tim. 2:15) and you aren’t doing that.
You were in Lev. 23: and all seven of those feast days are called Sabbaths. Do you observe them? As a Sabbath? Most of those feasts days are on Sunday, or some other day of the week. Then there is the Sabbath of years, where you are not to til the ground or plant. Do you observe that? Keeping the Sabbath - no fire in your home, sabbath’s day journey. You observe that?
Cults are generally wrong on who Jesus is, and they have some restrictive laws. And you people have both of them.
Your objections were answered in this video.
Your Channel would serve God better by actually *preaching the Gospel, rather than bashing the SDA Church. Aren't you creating an anti SDA Church cult?
Millions have been saved by the Ministry of the SDA Church. This Channel's bashing of the SDA Church does a grave disservice to God.
Can you explain how the Advent Defense League bashes the church?
Every video, including this one, shows Biblical support for the beliefs of the church.
I think you are misunderstanding. Adventist Defense League is playing parts of a video by an SDA critic, but then showing why the critics are Biblically wrong.
A cult generally goes wrong on who Jesus is. So going to the Day of Atonement we first have the SDA Jesus isn't God. He has spent 180 years trying to figure out who are worthy of salvation, and he is not done yet. God knows everything, and even before creation He knew who would be written in the lamb's book of life. (It is the DAY of atonement, so there goes that 1day = 1year theory)
Then we have the goat that is going to be slain. It was to be inspected, and would only qualify if there are no blemishes, spots, or physical problems. His blood was to be shed, and sprinkled on the mercy seat. That was done over 2,000 years ago. Heb_9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. But the SDA Jesus didn't get into the holy of Holies til 1844.
Only a goat without spot or blemish or physical problems, was even allowed into the temple. So that goat to be sacrificed was perfect, representing Christ without sin.
According to EGW the goat, who by "luck of the draw" was going to be taken into the wilderness (also clearly to die). So that goat HAD TO BE WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH, REPRESENTING SINLESSNESS. CLEARLY, the scapegoat was equivalent to the goat that was going to be slain and his blood to be applied to the Mercy Seat. She calls that scapegoat SATAN. So her Satan has to be equal to Jesus Christ - without spot or blemish.
So maybe SDA want to contend their Jesus is sinless and without blemish, but they don't recognize that they make Satan equal to Christ. but clearly EGW makes them equal. But i understand they do make the comparison. So either Satan is just like Christ, without spot or blemish, or Jesus is a liar, and the father of lies just like Satan.
😊 you always talk about Ellen G White. Even some of SDA scholar's says her writings are plagiarized, and many of her vision hasn't come to pass, and one of the greatest demonic teaching she taught is "investigation judgement"; she said in heaven Jesus transfer the sins of people upon the head of atans, a sin bearer
You just wanted to say as much as possible all in one sentence huh?
We've covered every one of those arguments multiple times. If you're new around here, sear h the videos lists. They are categorized in order of topic.
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@@AdventDefenseLeaguehow’s probation going today, heretic? Perhaps your name came up yesterday and you failed the test. Now your pathetic life is a charade as your eternal destiny is already decided. You forgot to seek forgiveness for that pepperoni pizza. Naughty little cultish. Daughter of the devil Ellen wrote many words( ( actually Marian Davis and Fanny Bolton wrote the books Ellen just stole the royalties. So why the crybaby whining over a long sentence?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueyou have presented your pope’s interpretation of scripture. You haven’t explained anything. Exactly zero Adventist cultists understand the probation and investigation of Christians because it’s not in the Bible. Happy probation day, heretic.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueyou are a petty little boy masquerading as a man. A pathetic effeminate soy boy. Tell us right now, right here, where probation and investigation of redeemed saints is taught in holy writ. It’s your foundational doctrine. You should never miss an opportunity to proclaim your primary doctrine. Go ahead, I need a laugh.
Can you continue as a church without EGW? If you can, then l suggest you do. Because she will bring you no end of strife. She is the reason that eyes are upon you. She is a false prophet in my estimation.
@dallyjacobson2146 if she is a false prophet, yes. But she isn't. You'd have to prove she is first. Your question would be like asking the Israelites if they can reject a true prophet and continue on. God's answer to this is a resounding NO:
2 Chronicles 20:20 KJV - ...Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.
Proverbs 29:18 KJV - Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
Romans 11:3 KJV - Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Luke 11:47 KJV - Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
SDAs have tested her writings with scripture and find that she is legit.
If a prophet is legit, it is a blessing for people to follow their counsel.
But if you are not convinced that she is then it is fine for you to ignore her and follow the Bible.
2 Chronicles 20:20 ...Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.
Ephesians 4:
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, *prophets;* and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Ellen White has a ton of good writings. Her writings are akin to John Wesley’s approach. Too many Christians today have followed the path of Calvinism or OSAS and are not familiar with the more Biblical Arminian theology.
Why do you say she is a false prophet? What did she say that was biblically inaccurate? She said we should look to the word of God above her writings and any other person. Was that wrong?
Sunday keeprers are already continueing to have church without whole books of the Bible like Daniel and Revelation so asking about having church without Ellen White is pretty bizarre!!!