Sheep Farmer ANGERED By Vegan Activism.

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  • @JoeyCarbstrong
    @JoeyCarbstrong  4 года назад +128

    🌱 If you’d like to stop abusing animals, be vegan for life, but here's some help to get you started: veg22.co/februscary
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    • @annasrensen454
      @annasrensen454 4 года назад +5

      Keep doing the good work👍. Joey you almost won a heart ♥️.

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +2

      I like cheese, milk and cream

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад +2

      @@alanpartridge2140 🙂💚I like your dad

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад

      @@HerbEVore-ti6hs The incredibly vast majority of people believe homicide is wrong you should too

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 4 года назад +1

      I don't have an issue with Veganism but it is on the average hypocritical.

  • @pomodorino1766
    @pomodorino1766 4 года назад +338

    "What is your aim (for the 423rd time)"
    Joey: "I'm against breeding/exploiting animals."
    "What is your aim (for the 424th time)"...
    Also, Soros? Rockfeler? WTH is he on?

    • @BabyFartMcGeezax420
      @BabyFartMcGeezax420 4 года назад +28

      yes, but what was his aim?

    • @GodZillaSkyline
      @GodZillaSkyline 4 года назад +20

      He's a wacko nutjob, that believes in Agenda 21.

    • @joannapebbleworthy9343
      @joannapebbleworthy9343 4 года назад +11

      Yeah, screechingly stupid.

    • @hbledzep8
      @hbledzep8 4 года назад +34

      This man came across first as a dunce then discourteous and with the 'does it turn you?' on comment a feeble minded creep. Joey does well to stay as calm as he does. I think he's a seriously brave man to speak out with some of the idiots around.

    • @MArttiieN
      @MArttiieN 4 года назад +30

      He is on sheepmilk.., strong shit, puts you in a loop.

  • @PauIdenino
    @PauIdenino 4 года назад +321

    The first dude seemed reasonable and wasn't being a dick, respect

    • @Weldras
      @Weldras 4 года назад +8

      Paul Denino but totally dumb 😅

    • @PauIdenino
      @PauIdenino 4 года назад +22

      @@Weldras
      I'd use the word ignorant

    • @Weldras
      @Weldras 4 года назад +6

      Ok i agree sry on that

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      And you guys are saying joey doesn't carry on like the last guy. Clear the shit from your eyes

    • @alexl6587
      @alexl6587 4 года назад

      Reasonable how? Opposite is true

  • @eightybananas4515
    @eightybananas4515 4 года назад +199

    At least the first dude was respectful and willing to listen.

  • @Letthembelightpeaceonelove
    @Letthembelightpeaceonelove 4 года назад +40

    I love how Joey can always tell who’s a farmer right away by how triggered they are. 😂 He’s a pro.

  • @nocturnal2043
    @nocturnal2043 4 года назад +186

    WHY isN't ThIs EvEnT aBoUt *HAL-HAL* ? HAL-HAL!!!

    • @Chloe-w7n
      @Chloe-w7n 4 года назад +11

      He's nuts about Hal Hal 🤣

    • @biceali7212
      @biceali7212 4 года назад +3

      Lol the hal-hal killing...
      ohh boy white people

    • @cags1744
      @cags1744 4 года назад +3

      Maybe he was upset about HAL in the 2001 space odyssey

    • @Aerogelatina
      @Aerogelatina 4 года назад

      if it was about hal-hal "WhY IsNT ThIs EvENt AbOuT aNiMaL fArMiNg?"

    • @Thelordofdawgtown
      @Thelordofdawgtown 3 года назад

      Sure he's saying HAL-HELL tbh

  • @macombus269
    @macombus269 4 года назад +56

    Animal exploiters are used to be sponsored all the time, thats why he expects Joey to be too

  • @ethicalrevolution3294
    @ethicalrevolution3294 4 года назад +18

    Interesting that the farmer used the word "murdered" when describing what happens to the cows. They know that's the word.

  • @summerlauren1051
    @summerlauren1051 4 года назад +187

    He got angry because he quickly realized he had no argument

    • @isupportthecurrentthing.1514
      @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 4 года назад +6

      To be fair , it is really frustrating when that happens .

    • @summerlauren1051
      @summerlauren1051 4 года назад +5

      @@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 No doubt, that's not really a good reason to call someone a wacko though lol

    • @pomodorino1766
      @pomodorino1766 4 года назад +13

      He is the embodyment of whataboutism.

    • @isupportthecurrentthing.1514
      @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 4 года назад +5

      @@summerlauren1051 Oh yeah ?
      WELL I HAVE NO RESPONSE FOR THAT , YOU DAMN WACKO !

    • @summerlauren1051
      @summerlauren1051 4 года назад +1

      @@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 😉

  • @waywardwinchester
    @waywardwinchester 4 года назад +118

    "You're an invasive species" you got that right Joey.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад +2

      You're an invasive species. Go live with some aliens

    • @travelandshred4690
      @travelandshred4690 4 года назад +3

      invasive species? the dudes literally got a desk in the middle of a sidewalk, vegans are the invasive species. storming farmers ranches? vegans are the invasive species

    • @ARKSURVIVOR879
      @ARKSURVIVOR879 2 года назад +3

      @@travelandshred4690 you are wrong

    • @ARKSURVIVOR879
      @ARKSURVIVOR879 2 года назад +2

      @@CainDA2003 you are right

    • @terrorindu
      @terrorindu Год назад

      @@travelandshred4690 it sounds like you took invasive species and ran away with it LMAO

  • @muhammadabedin3711
    @muhammadabedin3711 4 года назад +112

    *Laughs in Muslim* It’s not just halal that has to go, all of it has to go. Thanks Joey, big supporter of yours.

    • @ASMRyouVEGANyet
      @ASMRyouVEGANyet 4 года назад +3

      Is Muslim a language? "How does one laugh in Muslim?"

    • @MasterM333
      @MasterM333 4 года назад +8

      @@ASMRyouVEGANyet that's a meme,mate. Calm down

    • @MikeHitchcockWingsuits
      @MikeHitchcockWingsuits 4 года назад +1

      "Laugh's in Muslim" Amazing!

    • @elvenleaf5589
      @elvenleaf5589 4 года назад

      I love meat

    • @hamzie3828
      @hamzie3828 4 года назад +1

      DARK Angel555 same bro I’m eating chicken right now

  • @Lauris2211
    @Lauris2211 4 года назад +110

    I like when Joey starts to answer his arguments one by one and there is nothing left the guy starts to laugh and then gets angry... He knows he's wrong so he ran.

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +8

      Defensive attack-troll rage-quits at having his 'gotcha' questions reasonably answered.

    • @TheFloatingHouse
      @TheFloatingHouse 4 года назад

      @@fearofaveganplanet8513 great argument, carnist

    • @TheFloatingHouse
      @TheFloatingHouse 4 года назад

      @@carnivore2938 🤣

  • @TomVFormOfficial
    @TomVFormOfficial 4 года назад +162

    „I‘m on board with that“ ...sucks on his milk shake. 😂
    I don’t want to give up cheese, because abusing animals isn’t that bad compared do the taste of cheese.
    Carnist thinking in practice.

    • @joe_laird
      @joe_laird 4 года назад +16

      i didnt watch all of it but everyone has to transition somehow... not saying we should pat people on the back for cutting down, but we need to respect the transition and this guy is clearly thinking alot more than most carnists do

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 4 года назад +2

      Yet does your moral and ethical stance extend to humans?

    • @joe_laird
      @joe_laird 4 года назад +18

      @@perihelion7445 beimg vegan doesnt require you to equate animals and humans, instead it requires you acknowledge their suffering as more important than your pleasure.

    • @perihelion7445
      @perihelion7445 4 года назад

      @@joe_laird
      But don't Vegans generally see humans as the source of all the world's woes hence aren't pro-life?

    • @joe_laird
      @joe_laird 4 года назад +8

      @@perihelion7445 idk i think being pro life and being vegan are two different beliefs and one doesnt necessarily imply the other. you'll meet vegans who are pro life and some who are pro choice. i think suffering occurs naturally in the world but the definition of veganism is to limit the suffering we cause as far as practicable and possible. that applies to humans and non human animals.

  • @shellsangel7953
    @shellsangel7953 4 года назад +18

    The farmer only listens to the sound of his own voice - It sounded like he is having an internal battle with that stuff, even using the word murder for the killing of the sheep he farms...he knows, deep down.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      He's using words like that to try and get joey to listen to him

    • @shellsangel7953
      @shellsangel7953 4 года назад +4

      @@mrrooter3630 Perhaps that's the case. Joey does listen, and responds to his questions, but this man clearly ignores his replies - making intelligent debate or discussion impossible. I would hazard a guess that the reason for this is that he already knows.

  • @keithjames1802
    @keithjames1802 4 года назад +62

    Joey “ George Soros sponsored” Carbstong 🤦‍♂️

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      "George Soros" is going to be my new drinking game.

    • @thewhat531
      @thewhat531 4 года назад +5

      We need to oppose the globalists agenda to implement halal veganism into Inuit society! Fight the power! ✊️

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 3 года назад

      He could very well be and doesn’t know it.
      You obviously aren’t clued in to the gIobaIist agenda.

  • @jacksondowner
    @jacksondowner 4 года назад +16

    Amazing my man🙏🏻 Keep spreading the good word🌱🐮🐷🐔🐰🐟🐑🦃🦆

  • @TheCryptoLark
    @TheCryptoLark 4 года назад +19

    Lol, when that guy started going on about Soros and Rockefeller, nutter

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 3 года назад +1

      He’s not wrong though on that front. They do fund the vegan cause - and even though it is a good cause, it is for nefarious reasons.

    • @TheWindWaker134
      @TheWindWaker134 3 года назад

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 If ANYTHING, George Soros, Rothschilds and all those surpressors are using THIS GUYS Moral standpoint of exploiting the 'inferior'. They can justify what they do, with the arguments HE uses to justify what HE does to animals. To those self proclaimed elite fu*kers, we are animals too.

    • @TheWindWaker134
      @TheWindWaker134 3 года назад

      And now they are funding veganism in order to not be suspected, as they always try.

    • @nvmffs
      @nvmffs 2 года назад +2

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 What would be point of that?

  • @VeganChiefWarrior
    @VeganChiefWarrior 4 года назад +16

    every single thing the guy could reel off you had an answer for, never seen some1 struggle so hard in an argument

  • @elmagnificodep
    @elmagnificodep 4 года назад +25

    Is that older guy opposing Halal or Muslims? He was very laser-focused on the subject.

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +1

      Is it wrong to oppose barbaric practices of a religion?
      Or is catholic pedophilia perfectly alright?

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад +1

      @@alanpartridge2140 Are you saying that older guy supports pedophilia because he didn't mention it?

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +3

      It seems to be a way of accusing people of virtue signaling by saying they're too cowardly to criticise Muslims. He's also trying to shift the focus off his own guilty conscience by pointing to something worse.

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +3

      @@fearofaveganplanet8513 No not at all but being opposed to halal and certain islamic practices is a perfectly legitimate standpoint

    • @elmagnificodep
      @elmagnificodep 4 года назад +1

      Alan Partridge, It was very odd he wouldn't discuss the topic at hand. How is Halal anymore barbaric that none Halal meat?

  • @mclaymaker6953
    @mclaymaker6953 4 года назад +69

    Cool as a cucumber, Joey. Great job. Patience of a saint.

  • @schmidcl77
    @schmidcl77 4 года назад +24

    The classical reaction if someone don’t have arguments. Good Job 💪

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      Ah a vegan then

    • @angelnblak8049
      @angelnblak8049 4 года назад

      Yep a meat eater, with no argument period. Good job joey

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@angelnblak8049 ahh a vegan with an argument

  • @jhunt5578
    @jhunt5578 4 года назад +9

    Hallal tho, Rothschilds tho, Selective tho, Eskimos tho... 😆 This dude is all over the place, he's an illogical machine gun.

  • @housevibez8828
    @housevibez8828 4 года назад +45

    His carnist nonsense got destroyed by facts and logic 100%! Louis Gedo where are you ;)

    • @michelleyb8536
      @michelleyb8536 4 года назад +5

      Yes, where is he lately? I've been missing his positive comments

    • @RawNoLimits
      @RawNoLimits 4 года назад +2

      @@carnivore2938 evidence?

    • @RawNoLimits
      @RawNoLimits 4 года назад +3

      @@carnivore2938 well I don't follow you around, so how would I know lol.

    • @legracious574
      @legracious574 4 года назад

      @@michelleyb8536 louis gedo is sorting some stuffs in other countries. I confused louis gedo by talking about karma.

  • @mat_j
    @mat_j 4 года назад +44

    that old guy is walking boomer meme

  • @charlottesutton3880
    @charlottesutton3880 4 года назад +19

    You are doing amazing joey

  • @p1sces611
    @p1sces611 4 года назад +38

    The cognitive dissonance in full effect.
    Thank you Joey for everything you're doing!

  • @levi5073
    @levi5073 4 года назад +5

    "I'll accept your objection to Diary if you put up a sign objecting to Halal."
    Analogy: I'll accept your objection to sexual harassment if you put up a sign objecting to rape.

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад

      Good one, I would comment "lol" and add a smiley when it´s not that sad.

  • @WackoMac
    @WackoMac 4 года назад +7

    Thank you Joey for what you do.💗💗💗

  • @Ragin08
    @Ragin08 4 года назад +59

    I don't know how you keep it together sometimes, that would frustrate the hell out of me to talk to that second guy. Keep doing what you're doing, Joey! #VEGAN

    • @Ragin08
      @Ragin08 4 года назад +7

      @@morathanan I just looked her up, might want to turn that pent up aggression toward your doc lol. When I got to anti vaccination she lost all credibility. As a vegan I care more about animal welfare, but I can also confirm that it is the healthiest diet I've ever consumed. Gut health well in tact my friend. Maybe give it a shot and see for yourself :) Peace brother

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@morathanan this is how you guys sound to farmers and normal people when you used obsurd words out of context.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      You sound like the man your criticising right now

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@Ragin08 are you saying your anti vax

    • @Ragin08
      @Ragin08 4 года назад +2

      @@mrrooter3630 No I'm not against vaccination at all (I think it's imperative we vaccinate), the doctor he recommended is though. That's why I didn't take his recommendation seriously

  • @nevertethered6386
    @nevertethered6386 4 года назад +69

    Joey: "I'm against all animal exploitation."
    2nd guy: "Why don't you talk about halal slaughter? Why are you being so selective?"
    Talk about projection and a lack of self-awareness.
    1st guy was pretty reasonable.

    • @nevertethered6386
      @nevertethered6386 4 года назад +6

      @Nicole Rose I wouldn't say it is a good question at all. It's a way of justifying his own actions by pointing at something someone else is doing that can be considered worse so he feels righteous enough to continue his own barbaric lifestyle. We humans are often guilty of this. I work with a guy who does this. He is smart and claims to love animals yet the "halal" thing is the last pathetic excuse for a justification that he clings to. It's just another form of cowardice. And if we all do this, that is look to what other people are doing that is worse than ourselves as a measure for our values, as opposed to looking at what other people do better than ourselves, then this, collectively, is a huge problem. The former ends in cultural decline and decadence and the end of civilisation and by extension the end of animal rights as it is only civilisation/prosperity that facilitates this in first place. The latter strentghens our moral convictions and integrities and allows for true human evolution toward what we could be.
      I think it is a mistake to focus on that (halal) in particular because it gives people an excuse/justification for their own actions at the same time as driving a wedge between cultures which would otherwise have a better chance of getting along. Alot of westerners/europeans seem happy to jump at any "reason" to hate muslims, unjustly for the most part, and halal is just another one that helps the ruling class to 'divide and rule'.
      "Keep the poor and middle class fighting amongst themselves while they run off with all the money". - George Carlin.
      Works pretty damn well and we should be on guard against this.
      Probably a longer answer than you needed and a shorter one than I was inclined to give but basically I don't see halal as a big issue. Cruelty is cruelty and debating halal compared to non-halal cruelty just diverts from the main aim of ending animal exploitation, which includes halal anyway.
      Brings to mind the footage from Earthlings (I think) where they show "kosher" slaughter.
      It's one of the most deplorable pieces of footage I've seen.
      I think differentiating between slaughter methods is almost equivalent to getting bogged down in semantics or 'lost in the weeds' so to speak.
      Focusing on halal is almost akin to people (like the first guy) basically saying "surely there is a more humane way to exploit animals for cheese".
      Maybe a better way of saying what I am trying to say is that if people arw usually disgusted by what you refer to as "more humane" and are opposed to it in their actions then of course they will be opposed to halal anyway. To me it's a non-issue.
      Also if Joey were to focus on Halal then this would also lose some of the advantage provided by the 'perceptual contrast principle'.
      Hope you found an answer somewhere in there :)

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +12

      @Nicole Rose He does, he's explicitly against it. He doesn't specifically single it out because he's not a welfarist, he's an abolitionist. The difference between halal and other slaughter is a welfarist issue. Focusing on it gives the impression other forms of slaughter are fine.

    • @nevertethered6386
      @nevertethered6386 4 года назад +2

      @@fearofaveganplanet8513 Exactly. That is a more succinct way of putting it.

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +10

      @Nicole Rose Yeah, no problem.Welfarism is the concern with making slaughter more "humane", making cages bigger, taking cows' children away more kindly, hanging a wind-chime in a farrowing crate and so on. In other words, increasing the welfare of that animals you are exploiting. Abolitionism, on the other hand, is trying to end the exploitation of animals.

    • @LisaD-fy8xy
      @LisaD-fy8xy 4 года назад +5

      @Nicole Rose vegans believe that animals are not here for human use. They are fighting for animal rights/liberation. The right to not be used/exploited/enslaved/killed and eaten in situations where it is unnecessary to do so and we have other alternatives. People fighting for animal welfare believe it IS ok for us to use animals, as long as we try to do it in the 'nicest' way we possibly can. Vegans believe there's not a right way to do the wrong thing and animals are here with us, not for us.

  • @brankodjuric2913
    @brankodjuric2913 4 года назад +5

    What about...What about...What about...What about...What about...What about...What about...
    What about talking about whats on the damn sign, and not running around in circles?

    • @nicolathomas5125
      @nicolathomas5125 3 года назад

      Love that comment. What about...
      What about the holocaust that's going on right here, right now.

  • @jackjackson3349
    @jackjackson3349 4 года назад +4

    That last guy "why aren't we talk about everything, all the time, all at once, at the same time? You're gutless!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DaleAmigaman
    @DaleAmigaman 4 года назад +10

    There are some great vegan cheeses now. Even supermarket own brands are great. That second guy was hilarious.

  • @aaronmerkel5216
    @aaronmerkel5216 4 года назад +12

    10:44 they both have their hands on the table the same way. LOL

  • @KrwiomoczBogurodzicy
    @KrwiomoczBogurodzicy 4 года назад +8

    04:59 - I agree with Eric Idle here. Nothing tastes as good as important having good values and aligning your actions with them is.

  • @CitizenWarwick
    @CitizenWarwick 4 года назад +5

    That dude surviving the urban lifestyle like an Eskimo 😆😆😆

  • @catsmeow8608
    @catsmeow8608 4 года назад +2

    People get so angry when they have to face the truth of what they pay for. That sheep farmer could barely look at the screen showing the dairy industry. I was actually surprised he used the word murder. It’s rare.

  • @rallymonkey17
    @rallymonkey17 4 года назад +22

    The guy with the Starbucks cup gets it. Good for him and I hope he finds a good vegan 🌱 cheese out there 🙌🏼. There is more options today to chose from. The older guy though 🤦🏻‍♀️ he knew going into this discussion that he was going to lose his argument. He’s just mad 😠 at the truth and he couldn’t handle it.

  • @RunningIntoMyself
    @RunningIntoMyself 4 года назад +17

    George Soros Tho

    • @pomodorino1766
      @pomodorino1766 4 года назад +3

      Also the Camels abused in Saudi Arabia totally justify whatever else. smh

    • @RunningIntoMyself
      @RunningIntoMyself 4 года назад +3

      Pomo Dorino Obviously

    • @Rhinoinasuit
      @Rhinoinasuit 4 года назад +3

      Yeah thats a new one

    • @RunningIntoMyself
      @RunningIntoMyself 4 года назад +3

      Rhinoinasuit Like there wasn’t enough genius ones to deal with 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Rhinoinasuit
      @Rhinoinasuit 4 года назад +2

      @@RunningIntoMyself their creative stupidity keeps us from getting bored atleast! I'll give them that

  • @Lb-ri5wr
    @Lb-ri5wr 4 года назад +6

    Have a shot for every red herring this guy throws out

    • @GeddyRC
      @GeddyRC 4 года назад +2

      Lb96 nah I don’t want to end up getting my stomach pumped

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад

      Are you trying to put me in the ground?

  • @veganfortheanimals6994
    @veganfortheanimals6994 4 года назад +14

    You're the best Joey !

  • @LouisGedo
    @LouisGedo 4 года назад +5

    *Create a Better World by........Going and Living Vegan*

    • @donaldanderson6578
      @donaldanderson6578 4 года назад +1

      Word

    • @housevibez8828
      @housevibez8828 4 года назад +1

      For sure!

    • @LouisGedo
      @LouisGedo 4 года назад

      @@carnivore2938 Teenagers Lives Matter

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @@carnivore2938 Sounds like someone is looking for attention.

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @@carnivore2938 Are you by chance the person who's had a couple different accounts and keeps saying this stuff? Maybe it's time to either talk to the authorities or get counseling.

  • @vegantina6565
    @vegantina6565 4 года назад +16

    He got triggered on every level possible.
    #KudosJoey 👌

  • @highroadtohell
    @highroadtohell 4 года назад +2

    Well done Joey!!!! Keep educating these people. Such a disconnect!

  • @Jen-nr2kw
    @Jen-nr2kw 4 года назад +27

    Ah you done really well there Joey. That man was so angry. His thinking is on such a different level. Respect✌

  • @benediktk.8228
    @benediktk.8228 4 года назад +7

    11:57 What is wrong with this guy ? Probably intense cognitive dissonance going on.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      Same can be said about you Vegans

    • @benediktk.8228
      @benediktk.8228 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 What do you mean ? There is no conflict between my actions and my values regarding the ethical treatment of animals which would cause me to feel bad and become angry.

  • @colinmcnally2280
    @colinmcnally2280 4 года назад +8

    Keep it up man. I think there's definitely a niche somewhere between Earthling Ed and the ALF and you're filling it doing stuff like this. 👍

    • @colinmcnally2280
      @colinmcnally2280 4 года назад +1

      @B.M.J. Records not entirely sure what your point is mate. I'm a patron of Joeys, he does stuff his way, and he's doing it, imo, slightly more hard edged and differently than other vegan activists (not going up as far as the ALF of course).

    • @colinmcnally2280
      @colinmcnally2280 4 года назад +8

      @B.M.J. Records All I'm saying is, Vegans have had their wings clipped so many times this last few years that we're all terrified now of ever being seen as angry. If someone was raping and butchering kids it would be the noblest thing you could do to scream and shout about it, but when it comes to it happening to animals we must all whisper our protests while smiling kindly. Someone SHOULD be taking a more confrontational position on all this. And Joey has the balls to do it. Fair play to him. 👍

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @@colinmcnally2280 It takes the entire range of types (but maybe not the PETA style naked women in plastic wrap because that's just like some weird porn)

  • @ethicalrevolution3294
    @ethicalrevolution3294 4 года назад +1

    And it's not the first time I have heard farmers use that word somewhat unconsciously.

  • @itsgeraldine8837
    @itsgeraldine8837 4 года назад +4

    The only value this man has brought to the conversation is coining the term "Hellhell"

  • @Baz87100
    @Baz87100 4 года назад +11

    Omg, feel sorry for how stupid the last man is at his age. Incredibly petulant. Not wise at all. How do you reach that age and be so childish? Ffs

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +3

      Remember he's from a sheep farming background. He's defending his entire livelihood and the good name of his family from the accusation of rape. It's not just childishness or lack of wisdom; that was a very triggering sign for him. Petulant, childish and unwise as well, of course, but understandable.

    • @Baz87100
      @Baz87100 4 года назад

      @@fearofaveganplanet8513 yeah that's my point... The man is what, in his 60s and he still interrupts others when they speak, doesn't listen and just wants to dominate the conversation through being loud and childish. It's just really sad that someone of that age still has this kind of mentality.

    • @AliceRoche-ii2ke
      @AliceRoche-ii2ke 4 года назад

      @@Baz87100 which is exactly what joey does.

    • @Baz87100
      @Baz87100 4 года назад

      @@AliceRoche-ii2ke Oh yeah? Show me a video when he's been as petulant as this man... pointing the finger, asking him why he isn't speaking up about another wrong to justify another. Joey is at least constructive and speaks the truth. He doesn't just throw a tantrum and walk away with things get heated or when he feels like he's losing an argument - which is exactly what this cantankerous old man did! :)

  • @obadiah1309
    @obadiah1309 4 года назад +4

    damn these people so hostile man!

  • @thesoundofart7124
    @thesoundofart7124 4 года назад +2

    I am in awe of how calm you are with these people. Keep up the good work man.

  • @isaacjnc
    @isaacjnc 4 года назад +5

    That second guys brainwashed mind made me worry about what we have ahead of us as movement

    • @veganfortheanimals6994
      @veganfortheanimals6994 4 года назад +2

      He's old and has had many decades of being heavily indoctrinated; most younger people are much more aware and have a different attitude. It's the young people that are the future and who will shift us at a faster rate towards change.

    • @WackoMac
      @WackoMac 4 года назад

      @@veganfortheanimals6994 yes!

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @@veganfortheanimals6994 Age is no excuse for his behavior. I'm 57 and was raised on a farm and I don't act like a total c*nt. (Well maybe a little sometimes but not about that :D )

    • @fearofaveganplanet8513
      @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад

      I wouldn't worry about it - just enjoy the challenge. Brainwashed ignorance puts up a lot of bluster but it's actually a really feeble position.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      You guys sound like Alex Jones

  • @LoowheezeBreeze
    @LoowheezeBreeze 4 года назад +2

    1:57 You can tell Joey hated having to answer that... I've only tried a few different types of vegan cheeses, but they've all been pretty gross compared to the real thing

  • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
    @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад +7

    "Isn´t there a more humane way to kill animals?"🤔 Yeah, I´ve heard that question before in my conversations with omnivores.

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @Mind Deep It can take several shots to kill an animal that way.

    • @AliceRoche-ii2ke
      @AliceRoche-ii2ke 4 года назад

      Lol, you are an Omnivore.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад +3

      There are more humane ways to kill an animal. It's called a gun

    • @AliceRoche-ii2ke
      @AliceRoche-ii2ke 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 yeah, you're right.

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 The other person deleted their comment, but as I pointed out, it can take several shots to kill an animal that way.

  • @RedPillsAreGood
    @RedPillsAreGood 4 года назад +2

    you handled that angry farmer perfectly, your responses were quick and effective.. he made a fool of himself, emotions got the better of him.

  • @SPOp8_E1P
    @SPOp8_E1P 4 года назад +3

    Man that guy just does not listen you have so many videos about different things he just didn’t understand that the topic that day was dairy they are just so brainwashed and they don’t want to admit they are Doing bad things

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      Nor do you like to admit you still kill animals.

  • @1shakasean
    @1shakasean 4 года назад +2

    Keep them coming, i will keep sharing

  • @jessevegan
    @jessevegan 4 года назад

    Omggggg!!! I just wanted to go through my screen and shake that man!!!! What the HECK?!?!?! No words.
    You’re awesome Joey. Wow- I would’ve lost it.😮😳🤬🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @tonyboy6278
    @tonyboy6278 4 года назад +1

    Save the animals from the abattoir. Let them roam and enjoy the world.

  • @owencampbell7956
    @owencampbell7956 4 года назад +13

    respect to the vegan lad that walked past with the vegan hoodie on!

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +3

      You said it all. Veganism is just a fashion trend it'll die down soon, people don't actually care

    • @owencampbell7956
      @owencampbell7956 4 года назад +5

      @@alanpartridge2140 youre either a troll or deluded lol.

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +1

      @@owencampbell7956 What deluded that it is a fad that'll soon die down,that it is fashion more than anything, or that the general public don't actually care?
      Which one do you disagree with?

    • @alanpartridge2140
      @alanpartridge2140 4 года назад +1

      @@owencampbell7956 Why does he need to project his diet? Jeezo people are so boring nowadays.

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад +5

      @@alanpartridge2140 whats so fashionable by not killing innocent creatures?

  • @ryuu_spectrum
    @ryuu_spectrum 4 года назад +1

    So we should write every injustice on one sign and tackle them all at one time, that makes sense, every marketing agency should use this concept of doing everything at once, it would be so effective! Take note Joey! 🤣

  • @MissMetaBlack
    @MissMetaBlack 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like the old farmer is going crazy over conspiracy theories, and doesn't understand that animal exploitation is an actual issue.

  • @mnbvcxkll
    @mnbvcxkll 4 года назад +22

    I laughed so hard when he asked if Rockefeller or Rothschild sponsors Joey. Hahahah Carnist thinking.

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад

      It´s not that utopic. Soros sponsors FFF, for example.

    • @VEGGIEDAWWG
      @VEGGIEDAWWG 4 года назад

      PAMELA soooooooo funny

    • @kevolegend
      @kevolegend 4 года назад

      Someone gives a shit, must be government conspiracy. LMAO

  • @biancareed2945
    @biancareed2945 4 года назад +1

    You know what's awesome about being vegan? I was feeling lazy today so made a quick lunch of pan fried veggies with caramelized onions and as I was eating it I thought to myself "This whole meal has cost me less than $2".
    I get we are all fighting for the animals, but this method just isn't working. We should sneak attack home makers by telling them about our cheap eats, plant (no pun intended) ideas and let them think they are choosing.
    I entice soooo many people into eating vegan just by saying things like "oh wow! This recipe is awesome and so cheap to make as well!" Sure, the people are not 100% vegan but even just a meal here and there is a life saved.
    I find that my "helpfulness" is far more effective then these kind of tactics.

  • @oceanokelly8097
    @oceanokelly8097 4 года назад +8

    My mannnn

  • @weAreNotAloneHere
    @weAreNotAloneHere 4 года назад +2

    I went through a process and it changed the wrong perception I grew up with. Now I eat plant base meats and more vegetables, never been more happy. Im not as depressed and have less anxiety and certainly more energy. What can I say. I no we find it hard to believe one another as we seem to live in a sea of lies. But it worked for me. I would try it. I would learn it. Its worth every second of your life and the animals. Be ahead of things. Go plants or vegan

  • @TheHighGiant
    @TheHighGiant 4 года назад +4

    Can't win? Change the subject! Genius.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад +1

      You mean Vegan

    • @TheHighGiant
      @TheHighGiant 4 года назад +1

      @@mrrooter3630Oh, I do apologise kind sir. Maybe I should go and pay for some sentient beings to get stabbed up for my burger. Will that make me less of a mean person? My fellow Irish man.

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад +1

      @@TheHighGiantyou don't stab a cow to death. You slit it's throat after it's been bolted.

    • @TheHighGiant
      @TheHighGiant 4 года назад +1

      @@mrrooter3630 Harsh isn't it, can I give you a hug bro?

  • @paulcarman269
    @paulcarman269 4 года назад

    I don’t know how you keep your cool so well with people that constantly make logical fallacies like straw man, character assassination, and others. I’m so glad your out there, I wouldn’t have the calmness you do. Keep on doing you brother!

  • @joejosephi
    @joejosephi 3 года назад +1

    "Why don't you care about halal slaughter?"
    "I do"
    "Then why don't you have a sign for it?"
    "Because I'm talking about dairy specifically"
    "But you're not protesting it"
    "Not right now"
    "Why, don't you care about halal slaughter?"
    Ad infinitum

  • @julieann7203
    @julieann7203 4 года назад +3

    First guy was so nice, really open and cool, second guy obviously had been programmed, desensitised from an early age, great work joey

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      He's just not a snowflake like you lot

    • @julieann7203
      @julieann7203 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 not a snowflake? No, just an animal abuser.... Programmed and not woke

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@julieann7203 oh my God. You literally sound like Alex Jones right now.

    • @julieann7203
      @julieann7203 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 no, I'm my own person, I don't follow the herd, like a lot of people

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@julieann7203 then stop criticising others and trying to make them join your cult

  • @Stace1319
    @Stace1319 4 года назад +2

    You have the patience of a saint, joey. 😯

  • @chronicallyillcass716
    @chronicallyillcass716 4 года назад +3

    Imagine comparing genital examinations to the dairy industry! 🙈🙈 #idiot i don't know how you can keep your cool Joey! Thank you for all you do for the animals 💚💚💚🐮🐮🐮

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      Imagine vegans like you comparing farms to concentration camps. It's a wonder none of you have been shot

    • @chronicallyillcass716
      @chronicallyillcass716 4 года назад

      @@mrrooter3630 WTF!? Where in my comment does it mention a f*cking concentration camp!????

    • @mrrooter3630
      @mrrooter3630 4 года назад

      @@chronicallyillcass716 not you but it seems to be the most common argument vegans use against farmers.

  • @fionafox420
    @fionafox420 4 года назад +2

    The first guy was so amazingly oblivious, but was kind and open minded.
    The second guy needs to put his listening ears on.

  • @fearofaveganplanet8513
    @fearofaveganplanet8513 4 года назад +6

    Jerry: "No, I don't support that"
    Jerry later: "Yes, I'll keep buying it"

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад

      This is why I'm all for the development of substitutes for those people that would do it if they didn't have to give up any favorite foods.

  • @lindalundstrom4347
    @lindalundstrom4347 3 года назад

    This is what people do when they run out of arguments. They just talk crap or attack your character, motivation or intention. So frustrating! Joey, you have the patience of an angel 😊❤️.

  • @patriciamurtagh5777
    @patriciamurtagh5777 4 года назад

    You are the best Joey. Pair of numpties. That was seriously odd speciesism - camel dairy vs cow dairy.
    Please let the animal Holocaust come to an end 🙏🙏🙏 It is heartbreaking the terrible Cruelty of dairy

  • @mendaciousreality8459
    @mendaciousreality8459 4 года назад +1

    An idea is too mention to people that foods are drugs and have chemicals that make us feel a certain way so when the guy at the start was talking about cheese you could educate him on the casomorpheine compounds in milk that stimulate the same receptors as morpheine which is why he was saying that. Because some cheese smells like mouldy socks and is gooey slime but it’s the chemicals that trick us into liking it....much like cigarettes they are disgusting but the chemical release is what people become addicted too like cheese. Either way keep up the good work 🌱🙏🏼

  • @Posdrums3
    @Posdrums3 4 года назад +1

    Impressive that you were able to book the walking Avatar of Whataboutism for this by the way. Great production value.

  • @aheadofthecurve2
    @aheadofthecurve2 4 года назад +4

    Great work Joey
    Keep it up 👍

  • @jamez5
    @jamez5 4 года назад +2

    Will someone please think of the Hal hal

  • @robertmchapman30
    @robertmchapman30 4 года назад +1

    This was like a live version of one of my Facebook arguments lol. Well done, Joey. Love your quick wit.

  • @Jarv263
    @Jarv263 4 года назад +6

    I’m not a vegan, and I can’t argue with anything Joey said in this video.

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад +2

      🙂💚🌱Then try to go vegan

    • @Jarv263
      @Jarv263 4 года назад +1

      Herb E. Vore I’m completely uneducated on the alternatives, I’ve started researching more.

    • @HerbEVore-ti6hs
      @HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 года назад +1

      @@Jarv263 No big deal, think about it and start with baby steps. I became vegetarian for a couple of years and was really addicted to milk products. Then I skipped/replaced one after another of my favorite milk products, and one day I was vegan! 🤗🤗🤗

    • @Jarv263
      @Jarv263 4 года назад +1

      Herb E. Vore it seems crazy that I would worry about not eating certain things because I might miss them, I cut out all unnecessary drinks and I’ve only drank filtered water for the last 3 years and the idea of drinking caffeine or soda makes me cringe. So hopefully I can apply the same thought process. Like you say one step at a time 👍🏼

    • @puritech1609
      @puritech1609 4 года назад +2

      @@Jarv263 I spent months doing research last year before I went vegan. You will learn so much dude, not just about existing animal exploitation and practices, but about health, nutrition, and new kinds of foods.
      Remember your B12 and D3 :)

  • @carpediem.9
    @carpediem.9 4 года назад +2

    The first guy was very smart and honest with himself he was so quick to go "ok I love cheese what do I replace it with" Kudos to him for being open minded and compassionate !
    The 2nd one was a whoooole other story though 😂 he was obsessed with Halal although Joey kept saying I am against that too... so incredible to watch how brainwashed people can be

  • @wakingfromslumber9555
    @wakingfromslumber9555 4 года назад

    I think part of the issue is that people particularly in the West are living very opulent lives at the expense of the world’s habitats . If people cut down their portion sizes and consumed a little less not only would that help the high obesity rates but also the need to keep breeding so many cows that are raised in sub par conditions.

  • @sebolon
    @sebolon 4 года назад +3

    Aaahh Boomer! Stick to the damn subject.

  • @susie5668
    @susie5668 4 года назад

    Oh my God that old man was so ignorant I don't think I would have had the patient Joey as thank you Joey for all that you do 🌱🙏

  • @No_Frills_Carnivore
    @No_Frills_Carnivore 4 года назад

    Gwarn old man. Bout time somebody told him where to go. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @MRYAYOR
    @MRYAYOR 4 года назад +3

    For any new vegans, Noshing - smoked Gouda cheese tastes exactly like the dairy version, no funny tastes or smells and very delicious guaranteed.
    Edit: for milk I use milklab coconut milk its amazing!!
    Both of these are Australian brands I'm not sure if they are sold outside of Australia.

    • @knifeninja200000
      @knifeninja200000 4 года назад +2

      Thanks I'm gonna see if they have it here in Seattle

  • @Alexxb159
    @Alexxb159 4 года назад

    OH MY GOD YOUR PATIENCE IS SO AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    For someone who has been through the things that you have and lived the life you've lived and to be able to keep your composure in this way, holy shit Joey! You are an activism powerhouse man keep up the good work, this dude's rage could not break you YOU ARE TOO STRONG!

  • @AbhishekMukherjee
    @AbhishekMukherjee 4 года назад

    To answer the first guy, there is an alternative cheese made of milk from probiotics like microbes, that tastes identical to cow milk, minus the negative effects. Checkout companies like PerfectDay and Real Vegan Cheese. And even apart from all this, Oat milk truly tastes amazing with coffee.

  • @zacharyswan4927
    @zacharyswan4927 4 года назад +4

    Save the planet, eat a vegan

    • @ChairmanMeowNZ
      @ChairmanMeowNZ 4 года назад +5

      It'd be more effective to kill a meat eater tho

    • @zacharyswan4927
      @zacharyswan4927 4 года назад +2

      @@ChairmanMeowNZ you wouldn't know how bud.....

    • @zacharyswan4927
      @zacharyswan4927 4 года назад +1

      @@ChairmanMeowNZ vegans are as bad as holy rolling religious folks... Can't just mind their own business..

    • @ChairmanMeowNZ
      @ChairmanMeowNZ 4 года назад +3

      @@zacharyswan4927 Says the anti-vegan who isn't minding his own business making stupid hateful comments on a vegan video, STFU hypocrite and practice what you preach.

    • @zacharyswan4927
      @zacharyswan4927 4 года назад +2

      @@ChairmanMeowNZ I love vegitables and grow my own. But I also love meat, cheeses, ext. I also love hunting with my dogs and they love to catch rabbit and fetch ducks. To try to change someone's views is dishonorable. I just like poking fun at folks, all are so sensitive, lol.

  • @holovka
    @holovka 4 года назад +1

    Boomer demands “I want... I want.... I want...” - Entitled much?
    Both guys are confused, in their mind, rape is a human construct.
    So, how is this not beastiality?

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en 4 года назад +1

    Want to see what it looks like to have a conflicted brain? Watch the second debate near 7:13 onward. I know it's uncomfortable for some people to realise all this, but damn 😅

  • @phatvegan1691
    @phatvegan1691 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Joey

  • @riemukasta
    @riemukasta 4 года назад

    Oh goodnes, I can't stand people who think if you are against one thing you automitcly root for the other.
    Like with pride month. People are always saying "why aren't you marching for better care for the elderly?!". 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @roku3216
      @roku3216 4 года назад +1

      Most people who do that don't really believe it, but just are trying to derail the real discussion.

  • @VeganBrianAnimalActivist
    @VeganBrianAnimalActivist 4 года назад

    Hey Joey, do you think maybe its time to upgrade your microphone? maybe a boom that is out of site so you can focus on the non vegan vs constantly having to move your mic???

  • @lukalukaluka7000
    @lukalukaluka7000 4 года назад +1

    second guy's tactic was ask him many questions in a short period of time and beat him. Did NOT succeeded.

    • @kevolegend
      @kevolegend 4 года назад

      Are you opposed to this type of bullshit? what about this type? and this type? what about this type? He could of saved alot of time with question "are you opposed to all bullshit?" or "does any bullshit work on you?"

  • @annieo4442
    @annieo4442 4 года назад +1

    Well done Joey.

  • @Gravenbabies
    @Gravenbabies 4 года назад +2

    You should of told him that piers Morgan sponsors you 😂😂😂