What is the DeWALT Difference Atomic Vs XR Home Depot Sales
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Today I will compare the Dewalt Atomic DCF809C2 kit from Home Depot to the Dewalt XR DCF887P1 impact driver. I go over 5 different exciting tests so stick around till the end. While the Dewalt XR kit comes with a 5.0Ah battery we will be using the 1.5Ah battery so that we can see the two tools perform the same.
Honestly, if you can get the Atomic line at a sale price it might be worth your money, so If I were in the market for some new Dewalt tools and didn't need all the bells and whistles and needed decent performance I might actually buy the ATOMIC tools!!
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DEWALT 20-Volt MAX Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/4 in. Impact Driver with 5.0 Ah Battery Pack, Charger and Tool Bag
Model# DCF887P1 www.homedepot.... $199.00
ATOMIC 20-Volt MAX Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Compact 1/4 in. Impact Driver with 2 Batteries 1.5 Ah Charger and Bag
Model #DCF809C2 www.homedepot.... $129.00
*Excelente kit **MyBest.Tools** suficiente mente potente y ligero. la luz incorporada en el taladro es muy superior a versiones anteriores que se encuentra cerca del broquero.*
As an automotive mechanic, I prefer the XR. It works great as a bit driver, and when needed, I can snap in a 1/4” socket adapter and it makes a pretty powerful 1/4” impact wrench.
May sound silly (until you try it). Please run the same tests with the 5AH battery in both tools. The real comparison in performance and price vs. performance would obviously be the 5AH XR impact driver vs 1.5AH Atomic impact driver. I noticed a significant difference in performance when I switched my older XR (single speed) over to 4AH batteries. I use mine mostly for automotive work. It now almost torques lug nuts to 100ft/lbs and broke 2 of my non-impact rated Craftsman sockets. Both were different sizes and previously not abused. And yes, now I HAVE to use impact sockets.
I wsd thinking the same thing. Because the 5 AH battery runs these too way stronger. We use then now in all of out dewalt cordless tools
Yes and the battery defiantly makes a difference even though the voltage is the same. I saw a video of the auto impact gun and it made a big difference.
Yes, definitely. Another video shows that the different batter size has an affect on the power of the drill too.
The X-R finish pulling a screw and stood upright while the atomic fell off exhausted.
I've had the 887 for about 4 years now. Been amazing since day 1
Side by side demos are AMAZING. Thank you for this 🙏🏼
Love the atomic, it is obviously for the homeowner or handyman....at the end of the day it's nice to have options..
Exactly! This wasn't a fair comparison.
@@Anthony_Spilotro yeah I hate it when they do that to be honest 😤😤
I prefer the XR in most situations. I’m an electrician and when I did service work it was hands down XR all the way. Now that I’ve moved into doing generator installation I’ve come to find I can save some money on a few select tools by going Atomic. I have had a few Atomic tools fail early on, within a month of purchase. While I have yet to break an XR tool.
I have both, I bought the atomic as a backup shop tool and keep my XR for field work. I'm disappointed in the atomic as it struggles with not enough torque but for electricians or someone who doesn't need full power it's a great option.
Did you try the Atomic with the XR battery?
@David O yes, I only use 4ah batteries or larger. The new atomic ultra compact is really good for its size it hits as hard as the xr while being quite a bit shorter. The regular atomic is crap its no better than a ryobi.
I think for the price difference, it really does matter. Really good video and comparison though. This definitely creates a much easier comparison ground. Thank you!
Thanks, I tried to keep it fairly simple and fair👍
I have all dewalt and with the xr we have put in several hundred 5 inch lags a day with no issues
I really like your side-by-side demos.
Thank you, I like them also.
I would use atomic for handyman use and xr for day to day heavy duty construction
Awesome man, we were just talking about this on the den of tools live stream a few days ago lol. Thank you so much for a video on these 2 impacts!! Great job!
Since I had the two Dewalt tools I figured I should just make a video with current Home Depot pricing because most of the videos out slam the atomic and it’s really a tough call depending upon price and performance and which is going to be the best for your work. 👌🏻
The problem with all these "More Torks than the competition" impact drivers is that the fuckers snap screws when you try to use them for that purpose.
Sure, it's cool that you can take off lug nuts with your impact driver, but I've got impact wrenches for that. I want my impact driver to drive screws, not 1/2in bolts.
I just want mine to look badass in my garage. 😃😃😄🙃🙃
That’s why a lot of the néw ones like my makita has multiple speeds to control the torque
I need them to do everything including drive lags after pre drilling. They get 3/4 in and then i have to switch to a ratchet. Pricks. Speeds would actually be nice. But what would be nicer than anything is my battery's lasting more then. O.025 amp hrs. I switch to the drill if im worried about snapping screws or those particular screws are more prone to snapping more than others.
If you're snapping screws predrill your hole...
The dewalt impact literally has a setting just for using screws my dude
Keep the 887 as an impact driver. Swapt the collet out on the 809 for the 3/8 hog ring anvil, and dont look back
Hey Chris hi Amy this video made me kind of smile I've been under the weather for about the last week but this reminds me of another video I don't know why it just seems like you did one that maybe it was the impact drivers where you did kind of all the same brands but I really enjoyed the comparison I have the atomic nice thing for a DIY or it's perfect I have to say though I would like a higher-end battery I don't know why drills and impacts drivers come with such small batteries then you have to change them all the time seems like the 4.0 is like that happy medium where you get more power but you have a decent amount of runtime before you have to swap it out really good job Chris I sure would like to get my hands on that Cobalt stuff and give it a test I have one room that I'm trying to replace the floors on the subfloors and I sure could use a Cobalt multi-tool on that anyway hope you guys have a blessed day and hope to see more videos soon hope I feel up to watching them again just got a nasty cough that just won't let me go anyway be blessed take care guys
First of your videos I've seen. Good job. I bought into Dewalt tools this year and live them. I have the xr driver. No disappointments with any of the tools in my collection!
I would only buy nothing but Milwaukee thinking that they were the best of the best 🤦♂️ I recently bought my mom a DeWalt and I was so impressed by it that I ended up buying myself one. I’m honestly thinking of starting to buy more DeWalt they have amazing products.
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There both really good i have tools from both. Nothing wrong
I have been using both lately…. I just got a combo kit from lowes for $299
Xr sander
Xr jigsaw
Xr multitool
4.0 battery/charger
Some blades and a nice carry bag
My buddy has the DCD999 drill and its a monster, i may purchase it soon… even though I have my fuel tools
One thing about dewalt I have noticed they are more ergonomic
I can't help but wonder if the difference was actually the different batteries.
Amp hour only changes how much life the battery has, not power
Batteries actually do change the power of the tool but you can see in the actual tests that he's using the little 1.5 ah batteries on both drivers. It's confusing because while tools are at rest he keeps putting the big 4 ah on the XR
Bet 💯
Yeah, the atomic could actually get twice the speed if you put a 6 amp battery inside. Even my electric bike goes faster with a higher ah. I don't understand why that is on paper but it is the case on the field
@@eastonmtb2128more amps equal more power it's basic ohms law. A battery with 5ah can run 5 amps for one hour and a 1.5 ah can only run 1.5 amps per hour. If more amps didn't equal more power your breaker would have all the same amps for every fuse, and you wouldn't need a high amp fuse for the washer dryer or AC. Hope this helps.
I have both and opened them up, they are they same thing on the inside, they handicap the atomic to have the better xr they can charge 3x for.
VERY INTERESTING
This is an awesome test and a great video, however I would like to see the video remade only swap the batteries. I have the atomic set and I also purchased the 4 amp hour batteries and I really like how it works for me! Keep up the great work I enjoy your videos!
Side by side demos are awesome 👌 bro great work Chris @ClientGraphics
Thanks ACM 👍🏻
@@ClientGraphics your very welcome brother
The fall in the beginning lol. Nice side by side. I have to say I’m having a hard time figuring out the atomically role but I think 5” and under is its bread and butter for fasteners. The xr probably didn’t eat as much battery because it’s not working as hard. Nice video 👍
That's a tough call to make. Example same gear set motor switching and mofet pack, but one has a better heat sink on the mosfets. Mosfets stay cooler and the whole rig is more efficient. Tiny differences in design can save $$$ in build cost, plus most large tool manufacturers love to have a pricing hierarchy.
I’ve been waiting for this video! Thanks Chris!
No problem J - Who? And to think I almost didn’t do this video. Glad someone was able to enjoy it👍
I'm a DeWalt fan boy. LOL!
What a great video. I was in scratching my head at Home Depot today. The guy kept saying the more expensive one has a better battery... ty
Right on, Glad I could help. The both will technically work for most DIYer's and even some contractor jobs. Lots of tool deals running for the next 3-4 week. Stay strong, buy smart, and save your receipts!
The Atomic works just fine for me on the the work site.
What line of work?
Just to add, (and this towards comments in the thread, not towards the author) in no way is the Atomic "just a handyman" tool because it is a little slower than the XR. These are DeWalt tools and are sturdy and can and will handle rough job-site work all week long. There are brands that are half the price which are fine for less demanding work. Sure, a handyman can use the best too, but the Atomic is not to be relegated to handyman status,. that's Hart, Ryobi etc..
Well I used to hang gutters for a living and our hangers used them lag bolts I first had the atomic and it didn't have the power to do the job then I went and bought the XR combo was alot more reliable
You should test them both with a 5 amp battery. That would make a difference in power. I use an impact all day everyday at work in commercial HVAC and the larger amp batteries make a difference in performance
Run time difference。shouldn't have too much power difference
@@kevinji7285 Different outputs on different batteries actually.
Hell yeah I noticed switching from a 1.5 amp battery to a 9 amp really makes a difference
Im a dewallt man love mi dewalts just brought me xr 887 mi love that impact drill. Nice video keep them coming.❤
Thank you for the comparison . I have the Atomic one, I know it was not for heavy duty construction jobs. As an DIY guy, I am happy with Atomic. What I learned that, it is a close competitor for the XR. I mean “ Wow my Atomic “ is as good as XR. I was underestimating my tool. Thank you for allocating your time and sharing the experience.
How has the Atomic line held up for you? With the Black Friday deals going on I am debating on what to get. I’m not in construction but want some solid tools in my garage for DIY and work around the house when needed.
@@nitrorn1496 Dewalt Atomic is impressive . As a DIY person I am very happy with this. Have done so many projects and all DeWalt set tools performed well. Can not be better . I recommend without any hesitation
Every Atomic owner "These are so light and awesome". Four months later "I think there's something wrong with my tools, I have no torque anymore".
I lost it at the Atomic falling over right off the bat LMAO
I have an Atomic and I have no complaints! I think It just comes down to being picky!
Well yeah the xr is their best most expensive tool. With a special battery boost. Of course it's not going to be as good but its $100 cheaper
Clear, precise, concise… thanks! Now, my mind is all set for my choice.. thanks!
Do the Atomic 20v vs the 12v xtreme next!
That is why I have the Dewalt XR over the Atomic I love my Dewalt.
As long as it gets the job done! I got an Atomic for $99 with 2 batteries. Not bad!
All I'm seeing is better impact drivers than my black and decker lol. Seriously though, that cheap $60 driver has been a good one thus far, a year or so and a handful of little home projects later, it's still doing fine even when i use sockets on it when wrenching. It's comparable to my 3/8 earthquake so it's not too bad.
Thank you. Love the results. Now I know which one to buy. 👍
Love Ur review, 👍, I was concerned about the xr battery weight, Ur review cleared it out for me,
But once cry once the more power and bigger battery is worth it. Although I have an older one that’s not brushless but I do have the big batteries and it’s awesome I use the hell out of it and I’ve had it about 8 years now very excellent tools love dewalt
Does the speed difference really matter?
Well, yeah, if you're in construction it makes a hell of a difference.
I was going to buy the HD kit because on sale $99 but after watching tests went to Lowes and bought the Kobalt next gen impact that rested better than DEWalt in every test
Another great video. Shows that more expensive doesn’t always mean better.
Absolutely!
Hopefully I'll be getting the Atomic set for Christmas 😁. But the battery upgrade alone for the XR is worth it.
Would love to see a ryobi brushless against the new hp compact
Of course it matters. If one is slower that means it probably won't drive some things the other will.
Other YT videos have shown that the size of the battery effects the power. Both tools should have the same size battery.
Great job! I was wondering this very question!
I prefer atomic for home use. XR for the construction site
What speed did you use for the xr on the rest of your tests? Because the first one, 2800 to 2800 the atomic did better.
Great review. I was on the fence as to which one to buy.
I wonder based on the specs and form factor is the XR is basically an atomic without a current limiter to reduce performance
I got the XR model this fall at the Atomic price with the 5ah battery and charger. Sooooooo, yeah the bells and whistles mattered.
If you got the XR at the Atomic price I’d be happy with that.
@@ClientGraphics YEP! I also got an XR 1/2" drill with 5ah for $129 as well. Turned around and sold the chargers and bags for $40 a set, bringing my tool/battery combo cost to $89 each ;)
The atomic is much cheaper than the xr and is geared towards the do it yourselfer . Not a fair comparison.
I think the Atomic one knew it was going to get smoked by the XR, which is why it fell off the board when you did the intro. Seriously though, marketing people need to realize that not everything can be "the best". Remember when Gold cards were the best? Now it's Platinum or Rhodium or whatever took the place of platinum.
Jokes aside, I can't help but think of the Atomic as the "Cadillac Cimarron". Initially, seems like a great idea to take a well-respected brand name and crank out a boatload of cheapies, but as Caddy found, it really just hurt the brand's image. Honestly, if they branded it as the top of the line B&D, then it would be a completely different angle and make the same company the same amount of money. I would be worried that the team designed to quite literally cheapen it, might have went too far.
Ave mentioned in a video a while ago about how these impact drivers lose power over time, and I have to agree. Even my Rigid, which has a new battery thanks to the LSA (I'm a big fan of Rigid because of that), has less power than before. Less screws drilled per battery charge, and lag bolts that used to tighten all the way now stop before they finish. So with that thinking in mind, one could warranty it out (If Rigid allows for it -- it still works though), or keep buying cheap ones over and over again as their torque rating dips below the level you need. Conversely, if you spend more up front, get a tool that substantially exceeds your needs, then you should be able to get much longer life out of the tool before it hits the bin.
I have to laugh every time that poor Ryorbi gets to the starting line. It must have a pencil sharpener motor in it!
Great video. I personally would go for the xr but something to keep in mind they do heat up. I've was using my brother's 887 for about 4 bolts it got hot.
887 has that problem. 888 supposed to be the king
Mine is made in Mex and it doesnt have the overheating issue. After using impacts for over a year i wouldnt buy another impact without a speed selector.
The button chuck dewalt would be my choice
It's not how many times you are going to use it l, but rather the application is intended for, general construction or heavy duty construction.
It wouldn’t matter to me as a DIYer. I got the XR combo today only because it was on sale for half price. Upgraded from crapman combo which now has a defective drill diver on higher speed setting mechanism problem i think. It wouldn’t spin at speed 2 and at speed dial on 7 and up
I love my atomic. It’s amazing and I am looking to step up to the atomic
You mean step down to the atomic
@@mac_and_cheese4018 I meant step up to the xr which I got yesterday
Really good tools. Also cost a lot of money. XR are pro grade level.
Yo chris! You got hit hard with the love bots in the comment section. It's the most I ever seen with so few real comments. They luv you! Made me laugh that some have dudes names.lol Sweet comparison and I I'd go with the xr's.
I’m torn between leaving the bot comments and deleting them. I guess it’s just more love, just hope they watch the whole video and give a thumbs up😉
Wow, bot spam comments I think that’s a record number. I’ll clean it up ✌️
The XR is “priced a little bit higher”? Isn’t it $199 vs $129, ie 50% more?
little under 50
Should not b a surprise on d battery test kus d one that preforms faster consumption is less
Ive had the 20v max for 7 years same batteries and works just as good as it did new. Love dewalt crap
That dang kobalt though!
The Xtr is slightly bigger and has more specs on paper, but I think it definitely is one of the better impact drivers available today.
Man I hate to say...I agree, could use a sleeker design.
Hey man. I’m torn. Should I go with the Kobalt XTR impact driver or Ridgid Octane? Kobalt running a deal with their kit includes charger, 4.0 and case for $179 plus an additional free 4.0. Ridgid is on sale for $99 but no battery or charger and I need one. All I have is a Ridgid radio so I’m not invested too much.
Right now ridgid is having a pretty good deal on their subcompact stuff (online only) for 250 you get subcompact drill, impact driver, and an impact wrench. Two batteries and a charger. It’s in the special savings category.
I’m going to go with ridgid once I get some money. Main reason is they have the tools I want and they’re decently priced.
Don't go with ridged if you're a contractor. If you're a homeowner and is not gonna see everyday use than its more than capable but if you're using it quite often id gob with the kobalt, dewalt or milwaukee for long term durability
Apples and oranges, you can't compare when using a 1.5ah battery up against a 5ah battery. For the price you pay here in England can't really complain about the atomic because it is only 2/3 the price of the 796 XR and thankfully they come with 2ah or 3ah batteries, I have the 709 "atomic" hammer drill came with 2x 3AH battery and the 3ah battery makes a difference and I will try it with the 5ah battery but to me what's the point when it's supposed to be a compact lightweight piece. It's done everything I have asked of it and done it so much better than the bosch PSB 1800 LI-2 which cost 110 and only came with 1x 1.5ah battery. The Dewalt dcd709 "atomic" came with TSTAK case two 3ah batteries and was only 125 pounds sterling.
Hi how are you does the dewalt atomic driver have the quik connect
Looked like in test used different sockets. One impact one not...that matters
no it doesn't.... Chrome sockets may shatter if you use them on impacts. Literally the only difference.
No they do matter because the heavier the socket the more force that is generated to the bolt you are working on. Why do you think we use special impact sockets specifically designed for crank pulley bolts?
what about a 5amp battery on the atomic?
Thanks for the great video!
Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
great testing method !
Great comparison video bro
I am a dewalt fan , not saying all others stink , just used dewalt for 20 plus years in many job applications.
Personal experience; homeowner or maybe in home set , the non xr is wonderful , just starting out in construction world , non xr will work but , is slower , does consume battery (1.5) , to the point that the two battery pack is not enuff .
So I recommend if your starting out , kinda first day stuff , atomic is fine but purchase a 3ah or 4ah xr battery to go with .
Worker will be more productive , less frustrated ( battery swap) and I think better for the tool versus trying to get that last start stop or two outa tool before getting off ladder roof etc .
Thanks g
I would definitely agree with your comment.
you have different batteries my friend, that can make difference i guess.
Is that dewalt XR the one that goes up in smoke all the time? I hear to stay away from the 887 lineup
Yes, but I’ve only ever seen them go up in smoke on RUclips videos. They get hot enough or spit out grease and usually show signs that the tool is under a lot of stress. Usually happens when they are run tool long. The Atomic was able to burn out a brushed Milwaukee. The 887 I have has been in use for almost 3 years. It did need a collet rebuild but has kept on working without issue.
Good to know. Great video thanks
I don't understand the recurring commentary of "are you really going to drive more than two or three 5 inch lags" etc. ??? If I have a job that requires 5" timberlocks, I am likely driving them for the better part of a day,. dozens at minimum, so the difference is in fact quite important. The real question is how often does anyone drive 10 or less of any given fastener? Because if that's your use, it's not even work, it's playing around, in which case save some $ and get the Ryobi. I'll stick with my XR thank you and enjoy the additional speed when I'm driving dozens of fasteners all day. You've posted a good comparison, don't ruin it by marginalizing the advantages illustrated in your video with inaccurate editorializing.
The Atomic is not worth the money. Not in the slightest. Would love to see the XR vs the Kobalt.
XR with 5 ah battery and charger is still $150 at the Home Depot
What battery did you use with the Atomic?
very useful info thanks
Is the atomic compatible with bigger batteries?
I used to find it amusing seeing people with unused power tools hanging on pegboards on some RUclips channels. I had a switch turn on, maybe off, because now i want to hang power tools on display like some sort of hobby collection fetish. Seeing that XR with dirt and scratches is giving me actual discomfort. How can you do that to such a beautiful work of art? Shame!
The XR weighs less than the atomic?? Suprising!
Good testing
Nicely done
Professional and DIY.
The XR stays on that beam much better than the atomic. The atomic just falls right off.
Can the same battery being used on the XR drill work on the atomic drill?
Yes
We've ran upto 50 consecutively
Wait put 5ah battery on both what happens
So if a current Dewalt tool is 20V, but NOT the XR series, does that mean it's automatically the Atomic line? Or is the "Max" it's own line, and inbetween XR and Atomic... 😕🤷♂️
If a Dewalt tool is 20v then it’s part of the MAX lineup. The MAX lineup will include XR and Atomic and any 20v tool brushed or brushless. I think Dewalt used the 20v MAX to differentiate between the older 18v NiCd and XRP stuff.
@@ClientGraphics , so if it's brushless but doesnt say "Atomic" in the item description, or ON the product, is there a chance it's still Atomic? If not, is it better? While still NOT being XR?
From the beginning the atomic was so weak that it fell jaja
That was my favorite part, but the reality is the Atomic still does work.
Is that the XR brushless ?