It is not greed. It is safety. Tell me one andriod phone that is more safe if you store crucial data? Chinese android? I dont care if my phone rings Timberlake ringtone... i care if my project won't leak
I made my own personal ringtones using GarageBand. I didn’t just use the voice recorder and clip a song. I made my own. I’ve done it for heaps of people free of charge. The only thing is. I use their phone to do it. It gives it a unique feel as it is theirs and I can’t access it after. Makes me feel good.
I bought my first iPhone back in 2012. It was the iPhone 4S. The day I unboxed it, I set the phone to the "vibrate" mode and 10 years and 3 phones later, I still haven't heard my own ringtone since.
I have a ringtone called “Old UK Phone”. It’s a recording of the old-fashioned “ring ring” which we had in the UK. I’ve always had it on my iPhone, and because it’s part of my iCloud profile, it automatically transfers across phone upgrades.
The process of getting a custom ringtone on an iPhone is basically getting a sound you want, converting it to MP3, saving it to files, opening it in garageband, and then adding it as a ringtone. It takes some work but Android doing this natively is better.
I recently tried to move an mp3 file to garageband and open it there, even converting it to Aac it doesnt worked. I see the file, but you cant click and open it for whatever reason
I discovered this when my co-worker was complaining about all the alarms being too loud so I was like "that's easy, I'll just get you some birds chirping alarm sound". So I downloaded an mp3, sent it over. It was nowhere to be found in the settings. So I found the garageband method online, did it only to find out that iPhone maximizes the volume for alarms right from the first second and it was again, too bloody loud. I found there's no setting even for gradual volume increase. So I went to my FL Studio, adjusted the volume myself for a gradual increase, then the whole process again, garageband, set it as an alarm sound... IT NORMALIZES THE SOUND AGAIN, it's as if I did not play with the volume at all and just blasts birds full volume right from the get go. All in all I lost about an hour playing with an iPhone with no result to show for it. I never want an iPhone
It’s because it’s awkward - I guarantee if it was native ppl would still use defaults as if you’re in a quiet meeting/church/assembly/theatre it’s more inconspicuous to have a default ring or notification sound and less attention is drawn to it
Jonathon: Agreed! I was a bit shocked when the narrator outright used the word "greed" on Apple's part in this. Never happened before (in my memory) where he made a single negative comment about Apple.
@@Dan-oj4iq I agree, they're reasoning is good. I hate the fact that they glorify it, make it sound perfect. they make it sound like their way is correct one, and what everyone else is doing is wrong
@@RealJoseph123 i've known this channel for 3 years and even watched some of his old videos but in all of them he always excused apple for the worst decisions and still does to this day i must have missed something then.
Lol yet there are people in the comments sections coming up with excuses like “YoU CaN UsE GarAgEBaND” uhh okay, but that’s not the official way. Apple never states that this is the official way to get ringtones lol. It took someone to find a workaround to their default way of getting ringtones.
I love your channel for calling out Apple when it calls for it. I’ve always hated not having “free” ringtones. One of the things I hate the most about iOS Vs. Android.
Back in the early iPhone days you could easily convert and chop up songs (even after ripping the audio from RUclips) in iTunes and set them as alarms and ringtones - for free. The alarms and ringtones I made back then still work fine today 😎
Glad to finally hear you acknowledge Apples Greed. I recently switched to IPhone after being an android guy since the Evo 4G (2010) And some things apple does just baffle me, until I think about them wanting more profits
Lol... I thought I was the only one who noticed this. We all can acknowledge that apple products are great (...and this is coming from an Android/Windows guy who also owns a Macbook and can afford an iPhone, BTW). It just surprises me why sometimes Apple will just deliberately take the longer route when there's a clear simple way that benefits the user and yet claim their products are "user friendly". They're just so good at making you pay the apple tax
It's really one heckuva rarity, seeing an Apple enthusiast actually straight up have that as one of Apple's biggest flaws as a company. All things considered, it's been a long time coming.
as someone from the industry, I am pretty sure that profits off ringtones are negligible. Not allowing or making it as hard as it is to set other than the few standard ringtones is just about brand recognition. Apple has always been very proud of its sound branding and sounds like the mac startup chime, the locking sound of an iPhone, MagSafe and obviously, the ringtones are so important for brand awareness that it would hurt a lot if you wouldn't hear them everywhere ;)
The reality is just that Apple is a shitbag company that thinks they deserve the right to tell you what you can and can't do with the thing you PURCHASED from them.
@@manishgoyal7677 well if you would come to that conclusion based on ringtones alone .. maybe yes :D - imho that would be way to far fetched and it isnt like theyre giving no options either.
The ability to set your own sound makes it much easier to know when your phone is ringing instead of somebody elses. But then, they have such a low market share, it wouldn't matter anyway.
Part of it is greed. The other part is they have a lot of deals with the music industry, so allowing a person to download music illegally onto their phone and using it is probably against their end user agreement.
I actually learned something from this. I had no idea that Apple sold ringtones as my dad always either made his own or got them off of a sound file website. Thanks, Greg! I appreciate the information. Edit: My family owns very few Apple products so my dad did this on phones outside of the Apple ecosystem.
I actually have about 40 custom ringtones right now. I just use the GarageBand iOS app, & wav audio files. I edit 30 seconds in the GarageBand to my liking, then save and export as a ringtone. All without touching my computer, and without paying a single penny. This has also been one of the ways for a while now; it’s not a new method. Is AE aware of this way?
What saddens me the most is the ringtones I bought are no longer available on my iTunes account to download, probably because the publisher pulled them from the store. I miss them, they were cool and no replacements were ever added
Phoebe Snow's song "Poetry Man" starts out with 40 seconds of gentle guitar and vocalizing - no actual words until the end when she sings "You make me laugh"). It makes a fantastic ringtone. I turned it into a ringtone for my Blackberry many years ago. It was easy. I download the RUclips video as an mp3 and used an editor. My first iPhone was a 6. I imported my Pheobe Snow ringtone from my Blackberry and it has been my ringtone ever since. I had an iPhone X and now I have the 12. I still have my custom ringtone.
yeah apple is still living in the old years, if we can simply download their band app i think its called, and make an mp3 into a ringtone and import it to the phones ringtone it should just be free or like a way for us to just choose mp3 directly in settings, instead of following a tedious steps to get one
Apart from the GarageBand option that ppl have mentioned (which I have used), I have also used Apple Music’s songs, the downside is that the ringtone starts at the song’s beginning.
Going back as far as five-years ago, I used to create my own .m4r ringtones using existing MP4's on my Mac on iTunes. But, when iTunes became Apple Music, this became convoluted and now I just settle for the default ringtone on my iPhone. But years before iPhone, custom ringtones were popular and everywhere.
TLDW - back in the days the ringtone market was on 1 Billion $ / year Nowadays streaming tones n music became popular but Apple just kept on selling ringtones via their „tone market“ So there‘s no real reason they didnt enable custom ringtone change
it's great everybody having the same ringtone, i really like to watch a movie or show and have to check my phone because customized ringtones are outlawed
Garageband is pretty easy to use to set any sound as ringtone. Another way is to edit in a sound editor, save as m4a file and then rename it to m4r and drag over to iPhone in Finder. That's easy enough as well.
Finally you acknowledge in this video that it's about their greed, which could've been the short answer in other previous videos of yours too. Not saying that this was always the reason, sometimes the topics you brought up about Apple had nothing to do with their greed for profit, but lots of times I felt like you just avoided calling them out and came with some funny technical excuses about why some basic features are missing in their products😀. I hope you will stay on this path and call their greed out whenever the case from now on.
@@TinyBearTim In this case it's clearly about profit as he said, why use a third party app instead of having a very easy process like on Android? Don't get me wrong, Apple makes some great products, I use a MacBook Pro and planning to switch to iPhone too, but it's obvious when they're only looking to charge more, like in this case.
@@sealion12 GarageBand is made by apple it’s not third party And it allows you to literally mix a song or sound exactly how you want you could mix a dubstep hitler over the top of Alvin and the chipmunks It’s not about charging more because ringtones are cheap anyway. It’s just business they don’t want to show a way to complete undercut sales on there own platform
@@TinyBearTim they still wanna earn from sales of ringtones when Android doesn't. They are still trying to make profit. If not, make it straight forward
When I was on Android, I had a ton of custom ringtones (Zedge was great), but my phones are always on silent anyways, installing them was pointless. So I don't miss custom ringtones on my iPhone tbh
never thought I needed it but when someone says you can't have it, it makes you want it despite everything. such a convoluted and roundabout way of going about it. there isn't even a usual excuse for it like ip rights, security or customer experience. It's just greed. lol. I love apple. Love it for great quality, convenience and elegance. Call me a fan boy or a stan even. However I must admit that sometimes I understand Android users criticism. It's much warranted.
@@CamcorderHomeVideos ah, pixel. I experimented with it for 2 years. I have a lot of Google services so I thought to try it out. It sounded appealing to me - the first phone from Google, 0 bloatware, reliance on ai and software processing power instead of hardware. And MKBHD was selling it like it was some kind of miracle phone. So I got a Pixel 2. It wasn't a magic phone by all means. Had some minor bugs but I had warranty. Camera was the selling point of it but honestly I wouldn't notice a difference unless there's like a 4 year gap between the phones. All of the phones these days have good cameras. My issue was the depreciation. After 2 years I bought Pixel 2 for 1000 and sold it for 200 while the same priced iPhone would go down max to 800 in 2 years. Also I hate how all the competitors make fun of apple innovations and the next year they do the exact same thing. (no headphone jack, notch/camera punchout, no power brick, etc.)
@@nemozetbit lol. In the original Pixel ad, they said everything was satisfyingly new, except the headphone jack. Removed it with the Pixel 3. I don't think iPhones have bad cameras at all, they are some of the best. I just like the look Pixel photos have to them, while still being accurate.
@@CamcorderHomeVideos removed it with their next phone actually Pixel 2! 1st Pixel had the jack 2nd Pixel removed it. And they also came out with those "wireless" tethered headphones that year. I'm not here to shit on Google or their phone. People have their preferences. I'm glad we can civilly stay true to our opinions and still hold the conversation. The day is closing upon us with the next apple event and announcement of iPhone 14. I was actually thinking of upgrading this/next year. I'm an apple fan but not religious and occasionally switch alliances. So I was browsing some Androids as well. However some comments from Louis Rossmann made me reconsider. He was discussing the state of surveillance by the tech giants and his desire to move away from Google monopolies (maps, mail, browser, etc.). I'm conflicted. I hate the idea of my info being sold, but I think I'm too dependant on the convenience of it all. What do you think?
@@nemozetbit I am actually thinking of switching. I love the camera, but the phone is missing things. You can't adjust the flash brightness, record on the telephoto lens in FHD @ 60fps, telephoto can't be used for portraits, panoramas only on the main lens, and a whole lot of other things. I knew Google collected lots of data, but now Google is collecting other data that they don't even need.
On top of that, Android is an open platform, as you can see that Android from one brand to the other can, and is drastically different. It doesn't make sense for one to artifically restrict the features since it'll be easy to work around it, and it could possibly reduce sales.
@@Erik24296google isn't the only android useing company samsung focus mainly on their phones but it as other company's too but they don't earn much as money as their phonez
You can add your own ringtone. With iTunes you can select any of your mp3. I think the other reason is the copyright. Apple can sell the song to you. The T&C states that the purchased song are only for private usage. So if you play the music on a house party then technically you break Apple's T&C.
At this day and age because of school or work most of us have our phones on silent mode. You leave work or school and you forget return the sound back on so it stays on silent mode almost the entirety of the time
To be honest, in most cases I don't see a reason to have ringtone enabled at all, especially with favorite song, which eventually becomes most hated by obvious reasons. So... Silence mode + vibration, saves mine and people around me nerves.
You must not need to ever actually get your phone calls when the person is calling then. Vibrate is worthless for knowing someone is calling. Unless the phone is sitting on a hard surface next to me I'm not going to hear the vibration and unless I'm holding it in my hand at the time I'm not going to feel the vibration. No such thing as feeling a phone vibrate in a pocket. That's a damned myth
This is why I love this channel. While you still have a love and passion for Apple, you call out their flaws as well, so you get the good, the bad, and the ugly. So many other Apple related channels act like Apple is this perfect company that can do no wrong (iJustine comes to mind), while non Apple channels find any chance they can to take a pot shot at Apple and their users. You sit firmly in an objective middle, which allows for more reliable and unbiased information.
I used to have a custom ringtone back when I had my Galaxy S3, but I was a kid just then. Ever since I switched over to Apple in 2016 I have never wanted to have a custom ringtone. My phone's mostly on mute anyway.
@@gandalfwiz20007 I never said that. There might be someone going through the hassle of setting up a custom ringtone right now. I just said that I have absolutely no need for it when my phone's on mute most of the time anyway, it was just my opinion on it.
@@bmxismylife123 you didn't, Apple did, it's their way of doing things. On a Samsung, you just pick the mp3, android automatically sets the middle of the song. Easy
I never had a custom or default ringtone on my Galaxy S3 when I first had one back in the spring of 2015. It gave up on me back in spring of the following year by the screen turning off and on. Along with the power button not working and the battery not holding much charge. My Galaxy S3 never had cellular service and I would always keep it at silence. After it gave up on me, I would use the Galaxy Tab 4 (7 in. screen, white color). It was an upgrade and downgrade at the same time. Then in early October of 2017, I brought a Galaxy Express 3 which I still agree with my above statement of upgrading. I would then upgrade to an iPhone 6s in mid May of 2018 which made a big difference. I remember that it took a me a bit to get used to the Apple Ecosystem. By mid May of 2020, I have upgraded to the iPhone 8 Plus which doesn't feel its age too much but I notice it that more storage wise just like I did with the 6s. In early January of this year, I upgraded to the Galaxy S10 which still performs great! It honestly took me back when I would still use my S3. Going back to the main topic, I have never had these phones with a ringtone. I find it unnecessary unless it is absolutely needed. I would use the flash notifications on both the iPhone 6s and 8 Plus. I do miss the notification LED light on the Galaxy S3 and HTC Rezound had. ( I used that phone previously before the S3 until it wouldn't charge no more.) ( My first ever smartphone was the Samsung Vitality or Admire in the red color back in mid January of 2013. Then I had the HTC Rezound in November of 2013.) My Galaxy S10 is the phone that has cellular service and I am happy with it.
I have rarely used built in ringtones on my android. I always prefer ones from my favorite songs, or whatever catches my attention. For now its the opening part of take on me. Once i had the star wars opening theme. one direction's rock me first few seconds are great for ringtone as well.
when I switched to iphone, not having ringtones was a little odd, but never saw it as a vital necessity, there are way more things I like about ios more than android than things I like about android more than ios
Garage band is the best work around but it's a pain in the ass when on my android I can simple download a custom sfx clip and done. When I make a ring tone on iPhone I feel like I'm a producer lol
It's actually not too hard to have a soundtrack downloaded to your phone, import into Garageband, trim it and use as you want. It takes only around 5 mins to change the ringtone when you're familiar with it.
You still can set a custom ringtone but the method takes so much effort that most people don’t bother, and even if you do it’s still limited to 30 seconds which is terrible imo. Though tbh, back before smartphones people could set whole songs as ringtones and boy was it obnoxious to hear one go off in public, on the bus or train etc so maybe Apple has saved us from being forced to hear horrible music we don’t want to listen to lol 😂
Last time I wanted to create a custom ringtone was on my iPhone 3GS, I downloaded a free app which created and stored my custom ringtones for free and they still follow my phones ever since.
I didn't even know that the company that charges you 1000 bucks for a monitor stand and 700 for some wheels also tries to make their users pay for a ringtone. I wish I could know what Apple would be today if its philosophy hadn't changed that much.
One thing that is worth mentioning though is that yes apple changed the ringtone model in the 2000s, but with the older ringtone model it was optional because you could just add the song to your SD card from Limewire or record it with the recorder on your phone to set the ringtone.
Ohh I get it it looks different on iPhone 2:24 now I see but hey we should be glad we got it at all. For an insanely cheap price it’s only 1 dollar and 98 cents STOP Complaining About The Price 😢
As a lifelong Android user, I've thought about buying an iPhone to switch things up a bit, but videos like this keep me grounded and remind me of why I should avoid Apple and their insatiable greed.
@@TinyBearTim but they didn't mention the free way at all, as if it doesn't exist. That says a lot and if you can't see past your fanboyism to acknowledge that, then Idk what to tell you.
On androids (read samsung), it's not just ringtones, we can have different call background video for every contact & the best part is that we can choose these videos from local storage.
Today we are going to explain why iPhone doesn't do [ ], which Android phones have been doing for ages and even Nokia phones 20+ years ago. The answer of course is GREED, yet again. What other explaination did you expect?
This is one reason why i love android hell on my s8+ i can set contact ringtones so each contact has a different ringtone for example: 80s pop for my mum, anime music for my brother and 80s rock for my dad, basically freedom.
Theres actually a way to get a custom ringtone on iphone without a macbook, first, you get the song you want and download it, and then load it into garage band and when you save the clip, you have the option to set it as ringtone
You don’t need an audio editing app. iTunes itself can natively convert a clip from any song into an m4a AAC format, which you can then rename to m4r and drag back in to iTunes to get a custom ringtone. Slightly inconvenient? Yes. Convoluted and hard? Not really.
There is a really easy workaround by screen recording any sound converting it into a sound file using a shortcut and then putting that sound file into garage-band from which you choose the "ringtone" option....no money and very little time required
I admit that it is more direct on android, but you can still use garageband to create your own custom ringtones for iphones. You won't be needing any computer or itunes. The entire process is completely free. You may struggle with it in the first try, but once you understand, it will be a 1 minute process for you.
you can easy make a custom ringtone on iphone on garageband by following thease steps : 1-open garageband and tap + 2-select recorder audio 3-then tap the 3 icon on the left top 4-import your miusic what you can download from internet 5-edit it then press the first inon on the left 6-share with the format ringtone 7- open settings and select the music
It is very simple. No need Garageband or anything. I have tons of custom ringtones and notification sounds on my iPhone. Just simply convert it to M4A then rename it to M4R and copy it (sync) to your phone. Just keep the length max 40 sec.
So you find the sound on your computer, download it as a mp3 file, email yourself the file, open it in garageband, set the garageband project as a ringtone, go to your ringtones and there you go.
Ringtones go even further back than that. I remember when we had so send an sms with a code to recieve a ringtone. Monophone beeping obviously. But Nokia had a custom ringtone maker even back then. And even my dumb phone back on 2010 or so had bluetooth and 6 MB memory, so I could move files over for ringtones and wallpapers. On my most recent phone the system simply looks for a specific folder for ringtones (and notification sounds and wallpapers respecively) and I can just put files there. Much easier than navigating through the storage.
it's really a legal issue. When I switched to IOS I realised that it's hard to do illegal things, like downloading copyrighted files. Of course, I did know at the time that downloading copyrighted files is illegal, I thought it was just normal. But you realise that apple won't allow you to do most of those, if you download music, it won't appear on apple music unless you use iTunes on your computer which is quite annoying. There's no file explorer that keeps all your data in nice folders as android phones do, instead, most files are saved within an app. in Android, you can download a song and just go to settings in ringtones and it appears and you create your custom ringtone but since IOS does not have such a system, everything has to be legal which means purchasing the copyrighted music. It just sucks that you still cannot do it even with non-copyrighted music. there are obviously several ways to do most of these things through 3rd party apps but it's quite annoying especially when you consider that android users do not have to take 10 steps to do the same thing.
Don't forget about the 30 second limit for custom made ringtones through GarageBand. No idea if the Android system has some sort of ringtone duration limit.
Yeah really. There are like 8,000 tutorials on RUclips too. Personally, I love the freedom of creating my own unique ringtone... but admittedly it takes a bit of practice.
Clueless apple went this length - i'd known the ecosystem is restrictive, but my eyes opened. No way abandoning Android any time soon. Honesty in calling out your channel's namesake earned a sub.
I just recently changed from android to apple for family reasons. If I were still young and enjoyed setting custom ringtones for all of my contacts, I would never have switched. It’s amazing how uncustomizable apple is.
Used garageband on iphone 5s times 2012 or 13 i think ....and that was the best method that time nd ios 8 was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 never went back to ios after that time 😂😂😂😂😂last device was just 5s 32 gb
"Well the simple answer is greed"
Oh my god. He said the quiet part out loud.
Maybe, but he’s not Apple, so he can say the quiet part out loud… If Apple said it… Well, that would be weird.
Well if the beginning said it better then the accident from that last paper base wasn’t even gonna work so…
It is not greed. It is safety. Tell me one andriod phone that is more safe if you store crucial data? Chinese android? I dont care if my phone rings Timberlake ringtone... i care if my project won't leak
@@VoidCosmonaut do you use tik tok?
@@VoidCosmonaut apple has the worst privacy of all big companies and also how the fuck is it a safety feature to not be able to change your ringtone
I made my own personal ringtones using GarageBand. I didn’t just use the voice recorder and clip a song. I made my own. I’ve done it for heaps of people free of charge. The only thing is. I use their phone to do it. It gives it a unique feel as it is theirs and I can’t access it after. Makes me feel good.
I use ringtone maker and garage band
Not all heroes wear capes
I just import any song into garageband and convert it into its ringtone file. I have nokia tune as my ringtone.
That's cool, good job!
SAME I USE THE EXACT SAME THING!
I bought my first iPhone back in 2012. It was the iPhone 4S. The day I unboxed it, I set the phone to the "vibrate" mode and 10 years and 3 phones later, I still haven't heard my own ringtone since.
I'm surprised the answer you finally gave was greed. Every time I read the titles, that's what I think until you prove me wrong.
more like prove us right 80% of the time
I have a ringtone called “Old UK Phone”. It’s a recording of the old-fashioned “ring ring” which we had in the UK. I’ve always had it on my iPhone, and because it’s part of my iCloud profile, it automatically transfers across phone upgrades.
I’m from the uk
The process of getting a custom ringtone on an iPhone is basically getting a sound you want, converting it to MP3, saving it to files, opening it in garageband, and then adding it as a ringtone. It takes some work but Android doing this natively is better.
All you have to do is copy the ring ringtone you want to the ringtone folder, or the notification folder if you are copying a notification sound.
doing all this workaround makes us feel powerful that we achieved something lol
I recently tried to move an mp3 file to garageband and open it there, even converting it to Aac it doesnt worked. I see the file, but you cant click and open it for whatever reason
you can use any song from apple music xD
I only once added my custom ringtone cut from a music clip the way you said, but wasn’t there an option to just also sync it via Finder (then iTunes)?
My iPhone is on silent mode 99.9% of the time.
Vibration is my ringtone.
Same except mine is on silent all the time
Amatours, I sense the iOS software in my iPhone with my soul. 😂 without even turning on the screen 💀
Mine is also silent as well.
I put my iPhone 13 pro max on vibrate when I work at the office other than that I never silence it because I wanna hear when someone calls me lol
Same 😂
Is this seriously the first time that Greg doesn't defend Apple? OMG, when I saw that he said "greed" I gasped
You're not alone 🤣🤣🤣. I sometimes wonder if he's ever worked with Apple's engineering team
He’s said before in a video that Apple likes to have a 30% markup on most of their hardware products, including the iPhone
or how about he just says objectively and not really side anywhere
Same, I was ready to comment about how BS this video is but he's actually being honest this time.
Yeah I was ready for him to give some alternative explanation that more or less came down to user experience.
I discovered this when my co-worker was complaining about all the alarms being too loud so I was like "that's easy, I'll just get you some birds chirping alarm sound". So I downloaded an mp3, sent it over. It was nowhere to be found in the settings.
So I found the garageband method online, did it only to find out that iPhone maximizes the volume for alarms right from the first second and it was again, too bloody loud. I found there's no setting even for gradual volume increase. So I went to my FL Studio, adjusted the volume myself for a gradual increase, then the whole process again, garageband, set it as an alarm sound... IT NORMALIZES THE SOUND AGAIN, it's as if I did not play with the volume at all and just blasts birds full volume right from the get go.
All in all I lost about an hour playing with an iPhone with no result to show for it. I never want an iPhone
It’s because it’s awkward - I guarantee if it was native ppl would still use defaults as if you’re in a quiet meeting/church/assembly/theatre it’s more inconspicuous to have a default ring or notification sound and less attention is drawn to it
This is the FIRST TIME *Apple Explained* is straight up honest by calling Apple specifically on their GREED as the reason for whatever the topic is.
Jonathon: Agreed! I was a bit shocked when the narrator outright used the word "greed" on Apple's part in this. Never happened before (in my memory) where he made a single negative comment about Apple.
I was shocked as well 😂 I only played the video to see how creative he would be in praising Apple
@@stormchaser0898 Yes. He always justifies whatever Apple does with some pretty good reasoning. This is a 180 degree.
@@Dan-oj4iq I agree, they're reasoning is good. I hate the fact that they glorify it, make it sound perfect. they make it sound like their way is correct one, and what everyone else is doing is wrong
They’ve done it before
The one time this channel actually calls out apple for greed instead of finding an excuse for their anti-consumer decisions
You must be new to AE.
@@RealJoseph123 i've known this channel for 3 years and even watched some of his old videos but in all of them he always excused apple for the worst decisions and still does to this day
i must have missed something then.
Yeah when he said greed I had to check my glasses
Lol yet there are people in the comments sections coming up with excuses like “YoU CaN UsE GarAgEBaND” uhh okay, but that’s not the official way. Apple never states that this is the official way to get ringtones lol. It took someone to find a workaround to their default way of getting ringtones.
@@Eraldo_Coil exactly
I love your channel for calling out Apple when it calls for it. I’ve always hated not having “free” ringtones. One of the things I hate the most about iOS Vs. Android.
Bruh i have a custom ringtone on my iPhone rn. You can do it through Garage Band. It's a PITA but it works
I actually do too! I didn’t draft this comment accurately, but the way Apple does do it, would make the average Apple user believe you could not.
@@Turtle3000 oh 100%. I thought it wasn't possible. Also, the first guides i followed were old and used iTunes, which doesn't work anymore
@@_invencible_ I use iMazing and 3utools or anytrans for do that
@Rohan Chatterjee Avoid being a hypocrite by donating 25¢ for each free comment you post to a charity of your choice.
Back in the early iPhone days you could easily convert and chop up songs (even after ripping the audio from RUclips) in iTunes and set them as alarms and ringtones - for free. The alarms and ringtones I made back then still work fine today 😎
I love that the stock android alarm app lets you choose songs from RUclips Music to have as alarms
Glad to finally hear you acknowledge Apples Greed.
I recently switched to IPhone after being an android guy since the Evo 4G (2010)
And some things apple does just baffle me, until I think about them wanting more profits
Lol... I thought I was the only one who noticed this.
We all can acknowledge that apple products are great (...and this is coming from an Android/Windows guy who also owns a Macbook and can afford an iPhone, BTW). It just surprises me why sometimes Apple will just deliberately take the longer route when there's a clear simple way that benefits the user and yet claim their products are "user friendly". They're just so good at making you pay the apple tax
It's really one heckuva rarity, seeing an Apple enthusiast actually straight up have that as one of Apple's biggest flaws as a company. All things considered, it's been a long time coming.
Devils advocate here. It’s a business model not a charity.
My last Android was a HTC Evo shift 4G
You can't maintain a business without making a profit.
Me who has a custom ringtone without a computer on ios:
HOW
@@RobertoAlvarezjr-s2j GarageBand m4a file rename it m4r you’re welcome 😉
Here… almost didn’t come back with the link but I’m nice like that 😊 ruclips.net/video/Kp6XYHqD4KQ/видео.html
@@thisaintart thank you
@@thisaintartI couldn’t make it on iOS 16.5 please help me
as someone from the industry, I am pretty sure that profits off ringtones are negligible. Not allowing or making it as hard as it is to set other than the few standard ringtones is just about brand recognition. Apple has always been very proud of its sound branding and sounds like the mac startup chime, the locking sound of an iPhone, MagSafe and obviously, the ringtones are so important for brand awareness that it would hurt a lot if you wouldn't hear them everywhere ;)
The reality is just that Apple is a shitbag company that thinks they deserve the right to tell you what you can and can't do with the thing you PURCHASED from them.
That basically means they are not creating devices for the Users?
@@manishgoyal7677 well if you would come to that conclusion based on ringtones alone .. maybe yes :D - imho that would be way to far fetched and it isnt like theyre giving no options either.
Yes I think this makes more sense. Most people even us from the third world know how an iPhone rings
The ability to set your own sound makes it much easier to know when your phone is ringing instead of somebody elses. But then, they have such a low market share, it wouldn't matter anyway.
I just clicked on this video because I wanted to say "WAIT, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SIMPLE FUNCTION?"
Part of it is greed. The other part is they have a lot of deals with the music industry, so allowing a person to download music illegally onto their phone and using it is probably against their end user agreement.
Not really. Using parts of a music for a ringtone doesn't require permission or against copyright laws.
I actually learned something from this. I had no idea that Apple sold ringtones as my dad always either made his own or got them off of a sound file website. Thanks, Greg! I appreciate the information.
Edit: My family owns very few Apple products so my dad did this on phones outside of the Apple ecosystem.
Just use 3u tools
I actually have about 40 custom ringtones right now. I just use the GarageBand iOS app, & wav audio files. I edit 30 seconds in the GarageBand to my liking, then save and export as a ringtone. All without touching my computer, and without paying a single penny.
This has also been one of the ways for a while now; it’s not a new method.
Is AE aware of this way?
Yeah he literally said that their were tutorials on how to do that on yt
and its been a thing for like a decade
@@macbookpro16inch82 ah he did? Lol sorry I didn’t listen to that part of the vid.
Tutorial: ruclips.net/video/NPza3LU_Gfg/видео.html
Such a hassle for a simple change of custom ringtone. Lol
What saddens me the most is the ringtones I bought are no longer available on my iTunes account to download, probably because the publisher pulled them from the store. I miss them, they were cool and no replacements were ever added
Make your own in iTunes. There’s RUclips vids or explanations online. Better than buying separate. You can choose your own part of the song.
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Phoebe Snow's song "Poetry Man" starts out with 40 seconds of gentle guitar and vocalizing - no actual words until the end when she sings "You make me laugh"). It makes a fantastic ringtone. I turned it into a ringtone for my Blackberry many years ago. It was easy. I download the RUclips video as an mp3 and used an editor.
My first iPhone was a 6. I imported my Pheobe Snow ringtone from my Blackberry and it has been my ringtone ever since. I had an iPhone X and now I have the 12. I still have my custom ringtone.
yeah apple is still living in the old years, if we can simply download their band app i think its called, and make an mp3 into a ringtone and import it to the phones ringtone it should just be free or like a way for us to just choose mp3 directly in settings, instead of following a tedious steps to get one
Apart from the GarageBand option that ppl have mentioned (which I have used), I have also used Apple Music’s songs, the downside is that the ringtone starts at the song’s beginning.
I just edit the audio to start when I want it to
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Going back as far as five-years ago, I used to create my own .m4r ringtones using existing MP4's on my Mac on iTunes. But, when iTunes became Apple Music, this became convoluted and now I just settle for the default ringtone on my iPhone. But years before iPhone, custom ringtones were popular and everywhere.
It’s actually super simple to create custom ringtones using Garageband. No PC needed
iTunes is still there wdym?
Drm became a thing and locked up the file 😶🌫️
TLDW - back in the days the ringtone market was on 1 Billion $ / year
Nowadays streaming tones n music became popular but Apple just kept on selling ringtones via their „tone market“
So there‘s no real reason they didnt enable custom ringtone change
They do have custom ring tones for free you need to use garage band
It’s a 3 minute video? Y’all TikTok brains need to stop lol
@@TinyBearTim so why apple didn't enable custom ringtone as like as android?
@@bornapc they have
They do have custom ringtones, I create and use them all the time.
it's great everybody having the same ringtone, i really like to watch a movie or show and have to check my phone because customized ringtones are outlawed
Garageband is pretty easy to use to set any sound as ringtone. Another way is to edit in a sound editor, save as m4a file and then rename it to m4r and drag over to iPhone in Finder. That's easy enough as well.
Much easier to just click on the song
@@arcfilmproductions7297 yes, but only if the first 30 seconds are what you want
Finally you acknowledge in this video that it's about their greed, which could've been the short answer in other previous videos of yours too. Not saying that this was always the reason, sometimes the topics you brought up about Apple had nothing to do with their greed for profit, but lots of times I felt like you just avoided calling them out and came with some funny technical excuses about why some basic features are missing in their products😀.
I hope you will stay on this path and call their greed out whenever the case from now on.
There is nothing missing or greed you can use garage band and have whatever you want for free
@@TinyBearTim In this case it's clearly about profit as he said, why use a third party app instead of having a very easy process like on Android?
Don't get me wrong, Apple makes some great products, I use a MacBook Pro and planning to switch to iPhone too, but it's obvious when they're only looking to charge more, like in this case.
@@sealion12 GarageBand is made by apple it’s not third party
And it allows you to literally mix a song or sound exactly how you want you could mix a dubstep hitler over the top of Alvin and the chipmunks
It’s not about charging more because ringtones are cheap anyway. It’s just business they don’t want to show a way to complete undercut sales on there own platform
@@TinyBearTim they still wanna earn from sales of ringtones when Android doesn't. They are still trying to make profit. If not, make it straight forward
Finally
When I was on Android, I had a ton of custom ringtones (Zedge was great), but my phones are always on silent anyways, installing them was pointless.
So I don't miss custom ringtones on my iPhone tbh
I’ve always done it in the GarageBand app. Pretty much any sound file can be turned into an iPhone ringtone there.
you can easily do this by extracting the audio of a video and using an app
I import the mp3 I want to use as a ringtone to GarageBand and then export it as my ringtone, been doing it for years
never thought I needed it but when someone says you can't have it, it makes you want it despite everything.
such a convoluted and roundabout way of going about it.
there isn't even a usual excuse for it like ip rights, security or customer experience. It's just greed. lol.
I love apple. Love it for great quality, convenience and elegance. Call me a fan boy or a stan even.
However I must admit that sometimes I understand Android users criticism. It's much warranted.
I use a Pixel, but I prefer iOS. I just like the camera on my Pixel 6 Pro. 😁
@@CamcorderHomeVideos ah, pixel. I experimented with it for 2 years. I have a lot of Google services so I thought to try it out. It sounded appealing to me - the first phone from Google, 0 bloatware, reliance on ai and software processing power instead of hardware. And MKBHD was selling it like it was some kind of miracle phone. So I got a Pixel 2. It wasn't a magic phone by all means. Had some minor bugs but I had warranty. Camera was the selling point of it but honestly I wouldn't notice a difference unless there's like a 4 year gap between the phones. All of the phones these days have good cameras. My issue was the depreciation. After 2 years I bought Pixel 2 for 1000 and sold it for 200 while the same priced iPhone would go down max to 800 in 2 years. Also I hate how all the competitors make fun of apple innovations and the next year they do the exact same thing. (no headphone jack, notch/camera punchout, no power brick, etc.)
@@nemozetbit lol. In the original Pixel ad, they said everything was satisfyingly new, except the headphone jack. Removed it with the Pixel 3. I don't think iPhones have bad cameras at all, they are some of the best. I just like the look Pixel photos have to them, while still being accurate.
@@CamcorderHomeVideos removed it with their next phone actually Pixel 2! 1st Pixel had the jack 2nd Pixel removed it. And they also came out with those "wireless" tethered headphones that year. I'm not here to shit on Google or their phone. People have their preferences. I'm glad we can civilly stay true to our opinions and still hold the conversation. The day is closing upon us with the next apple event and announcement of iPhone 14. I was actually thinking of upgrading this/next year. I'm an apple fan but not religious and occasionally switch alliances. So I was browsing some Androids as well. However some comments from Louis Rossmann made me reconsider. He was discussing the state of surveillance by the tech giants and his desire to move away from Google monopolies (maps, mail, browser, etc.). I'm conflicted. I hate the idea of my info being sold, but I think I'm too dependant on the convenience of it all. What do you think?
@@nemozetbit I am actually thinking of switching. I love the camera, but the phone is missing things. You can't adjust the flash brightness, record on the telephoto lens in FHD @ 60fps, telephoto can't be used for portraits, panoramas only on the main lens, and a whole lot of other things. I knew Google collected lots of data, but now Google is collecting other data that they don't even need.
Good video, thanks. I feel like “The short answer is greed” could answer a lot of questions from all the big tech players, not just Apple.
so why andorid does have custom ringtone but apple doesn't?
@@bornapc Because Google makes more than enough money advertising using your data, so there is no need to restrict anything usually.
On top of that, Android is an open platform, as you can see that Android from one brand to the other can, and is drastically different. It doesn't make sense for one to artifically restrict the features since it'll be easy to work around it, and it could possibly reduce sales.
@@Erik24296google isn't the only android useing company samsung focus mainly on their phones but it as other company's too but they don't earn much as money as their phonez
You can add your own ringtone. With iTunes you can select any of your mp3.
I think the other reason is the copyright. Apple can sell the song to you. The T&C states that the purchased song are only for private usage. So if you play the music on a house party then technically you break Apple's T&C.
At this day and age because of school or work most of us have our phones on silent mode. You leave work or school and you forget return the sound back on so it stays on silent mode almost the entirety of the time
I haven’t used a ringtone since 2016
My phone has permanently been on silence since then
To be honest, in most cases I don't see a reason to have ringtone enabled at all, especially with favorite song, which eventually becomes most hated by obvious reasons.
So... Silence mode + vibration, saves mine and people around me nerves.
You must not need to ever actually get your phone calls when the person is calling then. Vibrate is worthless for knowing someone is calling. Unless the phone is sitting on a hard surface next to me I'm not going to hear the vibration and unless I'm holding it in my hand at the time I'm not going to feel the vibration. No such thing as feeling a phone vibrate in a pocket. That's a damned myth
@@ram89572 I "solved" that by using smart watch, even with alarms my smartwatch vibrates before the phone makes any sound
@@ram89572 I must have a rare disease then, since I can hear my phone vibrating from across a 4m wide room or feel it vibrate from a desk while in bed
@@Megaranator So you bought another Apple product. whatever works I guess
@@wills.8662 I don't use Apple products XD
I’m still using custom ringtones on my iPhone😂😂😂
But I have also been on mute for years😂
You can make them with the voice recorder in garageband
i too farming a corn for 6 months before finally i could eat that sh*t
This is why I love this channel. While you still have a love and passion for Apple, you call out their flaws as well, so you get the good, the bad, and the ugly. So many other Apple related channels act like Apple is this perfect company that can do no wrong (iJustine comes to mind), while non Apple channels find any chance they can to take a pot shot at Apple and their users. You sit firmly in an objective middle, which allows for more reliable and unbiased information.
damn.
Imagine needing to buy ringtones in 2022.
- Proud Android fan of 10 years
I used to have a custom ringtone back when I had my Galaxy S3, but I was a kid just then. Ever since I switched over to Apple in 2016 I have never wanted to have a custom ringtone. My phone's mostly on mute anyway.
By Apple standard, if you don't need it, NO ONE needs it.....not cool
@@gandalfwiz20007 I never said that. There might be someone going through the hassle of setting up a custom ringtone right now. I just said that I have absolutely no need for it when my phone's on mute most of the time anyway, it was just my opinion on it.
@@bmxismylife123 you didn't, Apple did, it's their way of doing things. On a Samsung, you just pick the mp3, android automatically sets the middle of the song. Easy
I never had a custom or default ringtone on my Galaxy S3 when I first had one back in the spring of 2015. It gave up on me back in spring of the following year by the screen turning off and on. Along with the power button not working and the battery not holding much charge. My Galaxy S3 never had cellular service and I would always keep it at silence.
After it gave up on me, I would use the Galaxy Tab 4 (7 in. screen, white color). It was an upgrade and downgrade at the same time. Then in early October of 2017, I brought a Galaxy Express 3 which I still agree with my above statement of upgrading.
I would then upgrade to an iPhone 6s in mid May of 2018 which made a big difference. I remember that it took a me a bit to get used to the Apple Ecosystem. By mid May of 2020, I have upgraded to the iPhone 8 Plus which doesn't feel its age too much but I notice it that more storage wise just like I did with the 6s.
In early January of this year, I upgraded to the Galaxy S10 which still performs great! It honestly took me back when I would still use my S3.
Going back to the main topic, I have never had these phones with a ringtone. I find it unnecessary unless it is absolutely needed. I would use the flash notifications on both the iPhone 6s and 8 Plus. I do miss the notification LED light on the Galaxy S3 and HTC Rezound had. ( I used that phone previously before the S3 until it wouldn't charge no more.) ( My first ever smartphone was the Samsung Vitality or Admire in the red color back in mid January of 2013. Then I had the HTC Rezound in November of 2013.)
My Galaxy S10 is the phone that has cellular service and I am happy with it.
I have rarely used built in ringtones on my android. I always prefer ones from my favorite songs, or whatever catches my attention. For now its the opening part of take on me. Once i had the star wars opening theme. one direction's rock me first few seconds are great for ringtone as well.
You can make or upload a song in GarageBand and export it as a ringtone.
I've been constantly using iPhone starting from 2011 I guess, but never knew about "Tone store" thanks! 🙏
when I switched to iphone, not having ringtones was a little odd, but never saw it as a vital necessity, there are way more things I like about ios more than android than things I like about android more than ios
Garage band is the best work around but it's a pain in the ass when on my android I can simple download a custom sfx clip and done. When I make a ring tone on iPhone I feel like I'm a producer lol
Changing file extensions....hackerman
It's actually not too hard to have a soundtrack downloaded to your phone, import into Garageband, trim it and use as you want. It takes only around 5 mins to change the ringtone when you're familiar with it.
Copium
cope harder apple d rider
You still can set a custom ringtone but the method takes so much effort that most people don’t bother, and even if you do it’s still limited to 30 seconds which is terrible imo. Though tbh, back before smartphones people could set whole songs as ringtones and boy was it obnoxious to hear one go off in public, on the bus or train etc so maybe Apple has saved us from being forced to hear horrible music we don’t want to listen to lol 😂
Had to endure a classmate's Imagine Dragons song too many times lol
Last time I wanted to create a custom ringtone was on my iPhone 3GS, I downloaded a free app which created and stored my custom ringtones for free and they still follow my phones ever since.
I didn't even know that the company that charges you 1000 bucks for a monitor stand and 700 for some wheels also tries to make their users pay for a ringtone.
I wish I could know what Apple would be today if its philosophy hadn't changed that much.
I Honestly don’t mind the stock ringtones, I think the last time I genuinely cared about custom ringtones was in like 2010.
3rd party ringtone maker apps work easier than garage band in my experience. You gotta suffer thru ads tho
One thing that is worth mentioning though is that yes apple changed the ringtone model in the 2000s, but with the older ringtone model it was optional because you could just add the song to your SD card from Limewire or record it with the recorder on your phone to set the ringtone.
I remember when it’s so easy to do in my old phone that has buttons, it’s as easy as just click on a music file and choose to use it as a a ringtone.
Ohh I get it it looks different on iPhone 2:24 now I see but hey we should be glad we got it at all. For an insanely cheap price it’s only 1 dollar and 98 cents STOP Complaining About The Price 😢
Because Apple users are robots without character that is the real answer
This. Half of them realize the greed from apple, but just justifies it. Pathetic
You don’t even need GarageBand… having custom ringtones on iPhone is so easy
Explain
@@hardyzme iTunes> (Copy song)> Song info> Options -check box start & stop and chose your times.
Wait, they do not have it?
XDDDD
Finally, a honest response to what makes Apple, Apple
On Android, users can download any song directly from RUclips ReVanced and then set that song as a ringtone.
As a lifelong Android user, I've thought about buying an iPhone to switch things up a bit, but videos like this keep me grounded and remind me of why I should avoid Apple and their insatiable greed.
Apple ringtones are free you can just use garage band and have literally any noise or song you like
@@TinyBearTim you're missing the point. Did you watch the video?
@@TGCid01 I did . Obviously they would link to the payed one lol it’s bad for profit to show the free one
@@TinyBearTim but they didn't mention the free way at all, as if it doesn't exist. That says a lot and if you can't see past your fanboyism to acknowledge that, then Idk what to tell you.
@@TGCid01 it’s not fanboyism is understanding businesses
Title: Why iPhones Don't Have Custom Ringtones
Answer: "Well the short answer is greed"
cool.......
But iPhones do have custom ringtones.
@nikatoenail13xx I did mine via garage band
@@jaketheoctoling same, about 40 custom ringtones have become a result of that for me lol
On androids (read samsung), it's not just ringtones, we can have different call background video for every contact & the best part is that we can choose these videos from local storage.
Today we are going to explain why iPhone doesn't do [ ], which Android phones have been doing for ages and even Nokia phones 20+ years ago.
The answer of course is GREED, yet again.
What other explaination did you expect?
Crapple
One more reason to never buy apple
One reason to buy apple is to avoid the crappy 480p 15fps cameras on most android phones
@@Orincaby TRUE! I’ve used Samsung and wth is wrong with the camera 😭
This is one reason why i love android hell on my s8+ i can set contact ringtones so each contact has a different ringtone for example: 80s pop for my mum, anime music for my brother and 80s rock for my dad, basically freedom.
As someone who always has their phone on silent I’ve legit forgotten what my ringtone sounds like
Theres actually a way to get a custom ringtone on iphone without a macbook, first, you get the song you want and download it, and then load it into garage band and when you save the clip, you have the option to set it as ringtone
You don’t need an audio editing app. iTunes itself can natively convert a clip from any song into an m4a AAC format, which you can then rename to m4r and drag back in to iTunes to get a custom ringtone.
Slightly inconvenient? Yes. Convoluted and hard? Not really.
Yeah I just make my own on garage band. Super easy barely an inconvenience
For years I've had custom ringtones for every contact on my list. I had no idea that you couldn't do that on an iPhone.
I remember those days, plugging up and making a mp3. So much.
you can make your onme ring tone with itunes or and Garage band
There is a really easy workaround by screen recording any sound converting it into a sound file using a shortcut and then putting that sound file into garage-band from which you choose the "ringtone" option....no money and very little time required
GarageBand 🙏 was the choice ! Not much to do then you realize. Nice video Greg 👌😁
I admit that it is more direct on android, but you can still use garageband to create your own custom ringtones for iphones. You won't be needing any computer or itunes. The entire process is completely free. You may struggle with it in the first try, but once you understand, it will be a 1 minute process for you.
you can easy make a custom ringtone on iphone on garageband by following thease steps :
1-open garageband and tap +
2-select recorder audio
3-then tap the 3 icon on the left top
4-import your miusic what you can download from internet
5-edit it then press the first inon on the left
6-share with the format ringtone
7- open settings and select the music
It is very simple. No need Garageband or anything. I have tons of custom ringtones and notification sounds on my iPhone. Just simply convert it to M4A then rename it to M4R and copy it (sync) to your phone. Just keep the length max 40 sec.
I switched my iPhone XR to an Galaxy S20 Plus 5G in 2020, and I've been loving the freedom
So you find the sound on your computer, download it as a mp3 file, email yourself the file, open it in garageband, set the garageband project as a ringtone, go to your ringtones and there you go.
Apple? Greedy? Nothing new about that but thanks for explaining this particular larceny.
Ringtones go even further back than that. I remember when we had so send an sms with a code to recieve a ringtone. Monophone beeping obviously.
But Nokia had a custom ringtone maker even back then. And even my dumb phone back on 2010 or so had bluetooth and 6 MB memory, so I could move files over for ringtones and wallpapers.
On my most recent phone the system simply looks for a specific folder for ringtones (and notification sounds and wallpapers respecively) and I can just put files there. Much easier than navigating through the storage.
Custom ringtones are possible using Garage Band. It does not require a computer, iTunes and an audio editing app.
it's really a legal issue. When I switched to IOS I realised that it's hard to do illegal things, like downloading copyrighted files. Of course, I did know at the time that downloading copyrighted files is illegal, I thought it was just normal. But you realise that apple won't allow you to do most of those, if you download music, it won't appear on apple music unless you use iTunes on your computer which is quite annoying. There's no file explorer that keeps all your data in nice folders as android phones do, instead, most files are saved within an app. in Android, you can download a song and just go to settings in ringtones and it appears and you create your custom ringtone but since IOS does not have such a system, everything has to be legal which means purchasing the copyrighted music. It just sucks that you still cannot do it even with non-copyrighted music. there are obviously several ways to do most of these things through 3rd party apps but it's quite annoying especially when you consider that android users do not have to take 10 steps to do the same thing.
Don't forget about the 30 second limit for custom made ringtones through GarageBand. No idea if the Android system has some sort of ringtone duration limit.
how do so many ppl not know about the garageband trick to make ringtones????????
Yeah really. There are like 8,000 tutorials on RUclips too.
Personally, I love the freedom of creating my own unique ringtone... but admittedly it takes a bit of practice.
i still remember when you had to type in a ringtone note by note on the very old nokia phones. good old days ❤️
Less than 30 sec and already giving the best answer
We can get a custom ringtone with GarageBand but we don’t have the vibration
Clueless apple went this length - i'd known the ecosystem is restrictive, but my eyes opened. No way abandoning Android any time soon.
Honesty in calling out your channel's namesake earned a sub.
I just recently changed from android to apple for family reasons. If I were still young and enjoyed setting custom ringtones for all of my contacts, I would never have switched. It’s amazing how uncustomizable apple is.
Used garageband on iphone 5s times 2012 or 13 i think ....and that was the best method that time nd ios 8 was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 never went back to ios after that time 😂😂😂😂😂last device was just 5s 32 gb
Would of been 2014 since iOS 8 is from 2014
@@K_240YT yupppp
0:28 right to the point