That is 100% correct, the job is very difficult now due to the complexity of modern vehicles, people think you just plug it into a machine and it tells you what is wrong but its far far from that
Unplugged mine yesterday on my w212 E63 AMG, runs so much smoother and responsive and no engine dash lights on, the eco drive system is still working perfectly, thanks guys and tasos great job brother
@@ralph02136 to be honest it’s not a higher pressure, it’s more like a regular pressure but with the solenoid it’s cutting off pressure even more causing a lower lubrication thus causing metal components scoring damage, my car running 6 months now beautifully since disconnected and it’s my daily driver, love it more now 🥰
Unplugged mine, M157. Actually, my pigtail connector came completely out due to breakage inside (cheap plastic). Made a plug for the hole in the timing cover… engine seems happy.
I actually about an hour ago went to unplug mine and it ALSO broke. I’m unsure if I’ll be able to just leave it broken (the plug is stuck connected but the plastic sensor part is hanging out. The hole in the timing cover just has the two metal sensor prongs hanging out. Does this leave a risk of leaking oil out of is it ok to leave it as is ? Can you please tell me what you did to plug the hole ? Thank you
Where is quality control when they produce new GLE? That cars are not finished! that is becose all life is like MacDonalds everybody want everything quick and looking for details is nowhere
@@ralph02136 it is not rocket science. More pressure = more leaks and wear and tear on O rings, seals etc. These engines and oil pumps were not designed to work at full pressure all time. Actually almost none of the cars manufactured in the past 10 years was designed to do so. Just one bolt taken out of production line saves millions in costs to manufacturer in just a few years. Just imagine them putting the whole oil pressure solenoid there for no reason. Sounds dumb right?
@@nemodemo420 the thing is a Mercedes TSB claimed if the solenoid valve ended up stuck in the default position, no repair/replacement was necessary. So wouldnt that mean that the engine was built to run like that? With just regular oil pressure, no low pressure mode?
@@ralph02136 it is no longer the case in North America. I read updated Mercedes bulletin on oil pump solenoid. They no longer deem it to be non essential item. As per new guidance it needs to be replaced. And the old guidance you refer to is actually about the error code on solenoid appearing during routine scans. But even this code now requires action. This was another big reason why I decided to leave mine in place.
See in the last couple of months people on mbworld forums have figured out if you remove the plug for these solenoids thats next to the crank pulley you disable these stupid solenoids altogether and get 100% oil flow from the moment you start the car up. Many obvious benefits to this. May even help prevent some bore scoring issues if its not the injectors or bent rods..... The only downside is miniscule extra fuel use and im yet to see if anyone confirm if it stops eco light or eco system working properly as I only just did this to my s550 havent driven it enough to see. Even MB own literature says its a "nonessential system".
Extra fuel consumption is not the only downside. In colder climates fuel pumps can go bad prematurely without solenoids due to cold starts. This may total the engine. I own a car with M278 and don't want to risk it by applying an "easy" fix. Also you will need to change the oil in less than 5k miles without solenoid there.
Also MB bulletin mentioned the solenoid error code to be non essential. Not the solenoid itself. By the way the guidance was updated for North America. Now they need to replace the solenoid if they see an error code.
I have a X166 with the 3.0T with the P06DA00 open circuit code. I guess it's time to replace that bad boy. I have ignored it for the last month but now I am worried. Thanks, Tasos.
@@6172crew1 I have similar problems. My failur is p06de the motor lamp ist always off sometimes the car drive with reduced power. Did you do anything to solve the problem? Maybe the oil pump selonoid?
@@mehmetcelik5979 nothing done yet, the X166 GL450 oil pan can’t be dropped without removing suspension or lifting the engine from what I saw when I replaced my engine mount a few weeks ago.
HI THANK S FOR THE VIDEO I M MECANIC TOO AND GOT AN LOW PRESSURE OIL ON SKODA YETI TSI 1.8 NEW ENGINE I CHANGE SENSORS I CHANGE PCV VALVE OIL FILTER I M GONA CHECK THE SOLENOID LIKE NOW
@@ItsLukeDude engine running rough normally when the symptoms come like oil pressure light the damage is already done😂🤣, if you have ECUTEK or tuning software that you can data log engine parameters when you monitor oil pressure you’ll see the drop in WOT
2017 Mercedes’ E 300 code P06DA00 (The actuation of the valve of the oil pump in the combustion engine has an electrical fault or open Circuit). Someone told me it’s oil pump solenoid need to be replaced, the question can I do it from the bottom or I have to remove the motor and flip it in order to replace it, can you please guys help!!!
The new GM 6.6 gas V8 uses one of these. Hopefully it lasts. I can monitor the actual oil pressure in real time with my scan gauge so can see if it fails hopefully
So i unplugged mine from my 2013 ML63 and dont seem to see any difference. So lets say mine was in a stuck open position even before i unplugged it so that wouldnt make a difference if i unplugged or not, correct? So by unplugging will make the solenoid open position? Is that the purpose for this?
By unplugging the solenoid it stays in open position at all times allowing maximum oil pressure. In some rare cases they can stay closed like the one in the video. If the car is tuned and modified with the solenoid stuck in closed position, damage will occur
γειά σου Τάσο όταν είναι αυτό χαλασμένο μπορεί να προκαλέσει χαμηλή πιεση λαδιου;ρωτάω γιατί έχω ένα πεζό 207 όταν ζεσταίνετε έχει χαμηλή πίεση λαδιου αλλά όταν είμαι εν κίνηση ολα οκ.μου έχουν αλλάξει τρόμπα επίσης σενσορα και δεν γίνεται τπτ.τωρα μου λένε πρέπει να λύσουν τον κινητήρα να αλλάξουν κάτι που δεν πολυκατάλαβα και επειδή είμαι Γερμανία δεν με συμφέρει το κόστος.
Hey Tasos - this video kinda scared me. I have a 2013 p31 c63 w/ 100,000 miles. Are these solenoids worth pulling to inspect for proper operation? Any signs to watch for that these might be going bad? Thank you!
Are you having issues or just changing the fluid. If your just changing the fluid see if you have a tourque converter drain bolt. And check if you have any leaking at the electronic plug before starting. They trend to fail and fluid will go up the wire harness and destroy the tcu. Drain the tourque converter if you have it drop the pan replace the filter. Put everything back together and fill through the dipstick. You will need to measure the pan temp with an infared thermometer or read the temp off off of a scanner to tell you when to check the fluid level. It requires a special 722.6 dipstick.
Sometimes simple ass things are the most expensive of the most frustrating. I feel your pain. Could you please tell me what vehicle you were working on year make model engine?
I have the code P06de I replaced the oil pressure switch… but the code came back should I replace the solenoid?? Or is the engine bad? Or oil pump itself??
Nothing is easy about being a skilled mechanic. This is a great example. Same frustration when an important circuit fries. wipes out a lot.
That is 100% correct, the job is very difficult now due to the complexity of modern vehicles, people think you just plug it into a machine and it tells you what is wrong but its far far from that
Unplugged mine yesterday on my w212 E63 AMG, runs so much smoother and responsive and no engine dash lights on, the eco drive system is still working perfectly, thanks guys and tasos great job brother
So like is this what is causing the scoring and the bend rods?
@@AlexHernandez-xh8ei yes brother because not enough oil lubricants getting through
@@MrRyman222 Do you know what the long term effects of running with higher oil pressure all the time?? I heard it's not safe for the car
@@ralph02136 to be honest it’s not a higher pressure, it’s more like a regular pressure but with the solenoid it’s cutting off pressure even more causing a lower lubrication thus causing metal components scoring damage, my car running 6 months now beautifully since disconnected and it’s my daily driver, love it more now 🥰
@@MrRyman222 so the only thing that's really affected is fuel consumption but only by a small amount?
Unplugged mine, M157. Actually, my pigtail connector came completely out due to breakage inside (cheap plastic). Made a plug for the hole in the timing cover… engine seems happy.
I actually about an hour ago went to unplug mine and it ALSO broke. I’m unsure if I’ll be able to just leave it broken (the plug is stuck connected but the plastic sensor part is hanging out. The hole in the timing cover just has the two metal sensor prongs hanging out. Does this leave a risk of leaking oil out of is it ok to leave it as is ? Can you please tell me what you did to plug the hole ? Thank you
Wow! Where is the quality control? Love the middle finger! LOL great video!
Where is quality control when they produce new GLE? That cars are not finished! that is becose all life is like MacDonalds everybody want everything quick and looking for details is nowhere
Great video 👍 Tasos If that is a OEM part you should claim against defective part, sorry for a shitty day your having.
Thank you for the explanation sorry it was💩solenoid stay safe 👍👨🏻🏭🇬🇧
this parts have only 2 situations? fully open and fully closed?? thanks
Another sacrifice to fuel efficiency.
Loool I love your frustration. This is not my problem but I had to watch the whole thing because some shit are just anoying.
Can't you unplug a working one and prevent this issue from ever occuring? If so does it set a CEL?
I know the answer. I made a very popular thread at MB World in the W212 AMG section. Unplugging is successful.
@@kevin9c1 Do you know what the long term effects of running with higher oil pressure on all the time?? I heard it's not safe for the car
@@ralph02136 it is not rocket science. More pressure = more leaks and wear and tear on O rings, seals etc. These engines and oil pumps were not designed to work at full pressure all time. Actually almost none of the cars manufactured in the past 10 years was designed to do so. Just one bolt taken out of production line saves millions in costs to manufacturer in just a few years. Just imagine them putting the whole oil pressure solenoid there for no reason. Sounds dumb right?
@@nemodemo420 the thing is a Mercedes TSB claimed if the solenoid valve ended up stuck in the default position, no repair/replacement was necessary. So wouldnt that mean that the engine was built to run like that? With just regular oil pressure, no low pressure mode?
@@ralph02136 it is no longer the case in North America. I read updated Mercedes bulletin on oil pump solenoid. They no longer deem it to be non essential item. As per new guidance it needs to be replaced. And the old guidance you refer to is actually about the error code on solenoid appearing during routine scans. But even this code now requires action. This was another big reason why I decided to leave mine in place.
Thanks for sharing Brother!
im confused shouldnt solenoid valves be closed to achieve full normal oil pressure? open = less pressure closed = high normal pressure?
Thanks for great video
See in the last couple of months people on mbworld forums have figured out if you remove the plug for these solenoids thats next to the crank pulley you disable these stupid solenoids altogether and get 100% oil flow from the moment you start the car up. Many obvious benefits to this. May even help prevent some bore scoring issues if its not the injectors or bent rods..... The only downside is miniscule extra fuel use and im yet to see if anyone confirm if it stops eco light or eco system working properly as I only just did this to my s550 havent driven it enough to see. Even MB own literature says its a "nonessential system".
Extra fuel consumption is not the only downside. In colder climates fuel pumps can go bad prematurely without solenoids due to cold starts. This may total the engine. I own a car with M278 and don't want to risk it by applying an "easy" fix. Also you will need to change the oil in less than 5k miles without solenoid there.
Also MB bulletin mentioned the solenoid error code to be non essential. Not the solenoid itself. By the way the guidance was updated for North America. Now they need to replace the solenoid if they see an error code.
I have a X166 with the 3.0T with the P06DA00 open circuit code. I guess it's time to replace that bad boy. I have ignored it for the last month but now I am worried. Thanks, Tasos.
Is your Motor lamp on?
@@mehmetcelik5979 no, just the code and the scanner can’t activate the valve
@@6172crew1 I have similar problems. My failur is p06de the motor lamp ist always off sometimes the car drive with reduced power. Did you do anything to solve the problem? Maybe the oil pump selonoid?
@@mehmetcelik5979 nothing done yet, the X166 GL450 oil pan can’t be dropped without removing suspension or lifting the engine from what I saw when I replaced my engine mount a few weeks ago.
Thank you Thank you Thank you !!!
From what car is this I need to know
HI THANK S FOR THE VIDEO I M MECANIC TOO AND GOT AN LOW PRESSURE OIL ON SKODA YETI TSI 1.8 NEW ENGINE
I CHANGE SENSORS I CHANGE PCV VALVE OIL FILTER I M GONA CHECK THE SOLENOID LIKE NOW
Which engine ? we all need to install oil presure gauge .How many hours to get to oil pump?
What damage can it cause and what are the symptoms?
Low oil pressure he literally said that in the video
@@BADMAN-SJ 😂 obviously. I meant other symptoms.
@@ItsLukeDude engine running rough normally when the symptoms come like oil pressure light the damage is already done😂🤣, if you have ECUTEK or tuning software that you can data log engine parameters when you monitor oil pressure you’ll see the drop in WOT
2017 Mercedes’ E 300 code P06DA00 (The actuation of the valve of the oil pump in the combustion engine has
an electrical fault or open Circuit). Someone told me it’s oil pump solenoid need to be replaced, the question can I do it from the bottom or I have to remove the motor and flip it in order to replace it, can you please guys help!!!
Hows does this influence engine properly work?
Good explanation
What’s the part number for this. It’s a pain to find any information on my E300. The parts guy can’t even find this part with exploded diagrams.
I liked you being angry for such a stupid component I feel you
How much voltage should we use to test the Valve or Solenoig?
12
The new GM 6.6 gas V8 uses one of these. Hopefully it lasts. I can monitor the actual oil pressure in real time with my scan gauge so can see if it fails hopefully
So i unplugged mine from my 2013 ML63 and dont seem to see any difference. So lets say mine was in a stuck open position even before i unplugged it so that wouldnt make a difference if i unplugged or not, correct? So by unplugging will make the solenoid open position? Is that the purpose for this?
By unplugging the solenoid it stays in open position at all times allowing maximum oil pressure. In some rare cases they can stay closed like the one in the video. If the car is tuned and modified with the solenoid stuck in closed position, damage will occur
Sounds like a fun day.
VAG or MB?
So what is the point of running lower oil pressure in the first place? why not run higher all the time?
Ahh ok!
It is to reduce the load on the oil pump at lower engine speeds(when higher oil pressure isnt needed)this in turn reduces emissions
@@steveguest8028so there's no real long term negative effect of removing the oil pump valve and plugging it up besides losing some fuel economy??
γειά σου Τάσο όταν είναι αυτό χαλασμένο μπορεί να προκαλέσει χαμηλή πιεση λαδιου;ρωτάω γιατί έχω ένα πεζό 207 όταν ζεσταίνετε έχει χαμηλή πίεση λαδιου αλλά όταν είμαι εν κίνηση ολα οκ.μου έχουν αλλάξει τρόμπα επίσης σενσορα και δεν γίνεται τπτ.τωρα μου λένε πρέπει να λύσουν τον κινητήρα να αλλάξουν κάτι που δεν πολυκατάλαβα και επειδή είμαι Γερμανία δεν με συμφέρει το κόστος.
On our BMW it was oil pressure release valve stuck open nearly spent 500 quid on oil pump
Hey Tasos - this video kinda scared me. I have a 2013 p31 c63 w/ 100,000 miles. Are these solenoids worth pulling to inspect for proper operation? Any signs to watch for that these might be going bad? Thank you!
Don't worry, it's from sls.
C63 doesn't have variable oil pump/oil on demand
Hi friend. Sory for my english. I have ML 250 year 2013. I have same problem? Thanky
More unnecessary rubbish that is not needed
Tasos is the procedure for flushing a 722.6 the same as the 722.9 vid you posted?
Are you having issues or just changing the fluid. If your just changing the fluid see if you have a tourque converter drain bolt. And check if you have any leaking at the electronic plug before starting. They trend to fail and fluid will go up the wire harness and destroy the tcu. Drain the tourque converter if you have it drop the pan replace the filter. Put everything back together and fill through the dipstick. You will need to measure the pan temp with an infared thermometer or read the temp off off of a scanner to tell you when to check the fluid level. It requires a special 722.6 dipstick.
Sometimes simple ass things are the most expensive of the most frustrating. I feel your pain. Could you please tell me what vehicle you were working on year make model engine?
SLS
@@TasosMoschatos Do you know what other side effects there are to unplugging the valve besides fuel economy going down a little bit?
Is that for Hyundai tucson
I have the code P06de I replaced the oil pressure switch… but the code came back should I replace the solenoid?? Or is the engine bad? Or oil pump itself??
What did you do? Mine came on in my impala and it’s say that the Engine Oil Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Stuck On. Idk what to do
@@JuceeMeee did you already solve the problem?
Veja essa dica, pois o problema não é na eletroválvula, mas sim do chicote elétrico: ruclips.net/video/PIUCpZcXm4E/видео.html
On our BMW
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