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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Graham Hancock, formerly a foreign correspondent for "The Economist," has been an international bestselling author for more than 30 years with a series of books, notably "Fingerprints of the Gods," "Magicians of the Gods" and "America Before," which investigate the controversial possibility of a lost civilization of the Ice Age destroyed in a global cataclysm some 12,000 years ago. Graham is the presenter of the hit Netflix documentary series "Ancient Apocalypse."
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Flint Dibble is an archaeologist at Cardiff University who has conducted field work and laboratory analyses around the Mediterranean region from Stone Age caves to Egyptian tombs to Greek and Roman cities. Flint enjoys sharing archaeology - from the nitty gritty to the grand - with people around the world. Subscribe to his RUclips channel, "Archaeology with Flint Dibble," or follow him on X/Twitter for behind-the-scenes deep dives into 21st century archaeology.
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Grahams argument is basically that you can’t rule it out, and the archeologist is saying we have no evidence. Just saved you 4 hours
Yeah that pretty much sums it up, you can appeal to the unknown because it hasn’t been directly disproven with anything but it does mean you’re making an impactful or meaningful thought/statement
An archeologist with hands like he just came back from a beauty salon. Flint dibble is the prime example of woke man child throwing tantrums because people see it different than him. I couldnt watch longer than 30 minutes. What an unbearable manchild.
Shouldn't that be a key indicator of the difference of actual exploring and evidence gathering between both Graham and Dibble. Graham legit broke his own wallet to explore probably 10x more sites hands on than dibble.
Can't rule it out nor can you rule it in based on nothing as a catalyst. Graham has as much evidence for it as aliens or leprechauns.
Jamie, pull up Flint Dibble’s sleeves.
Goddammit 😆
I personally think Flint took Graham to the wood shed during this podcast, but that comment is golden 😂
I laughed for five minutes at his sleeves....and the hat, really........
@@dennisfields8043 Should have worn some TapOut attire with a tribal tattoo and a Harley Davison bandana
@@Ktmfan450or a feather boa and a bedazzled bikini? Dorks are just dorks dude. I'm a nerd, I own it. I'm not trying to arm wrestle anyone. But, humans have eyeballs and brains that interpret things around them. I saw a dork. What did you see?
The way Flint Dibble was talking at the beginning you would think Graham Hancock wasn’t right there beside him 😂
In a lot of ways, Graham isn't there lol. He just says "Ya well we just dont know" - Not useful. Anyone could have been in the room saying that lol.
I didn’t know Graham was there
I argue there is a lost civilization that came BEFORE the lost civilization that Graham talks about. Graham cannot prove I am wrong because we haven't excavated 100% of all areas on earth.
I'd actually contend the works supposed to be attributed to your lost civilization are impossible to have been made by man and were in fact, the work of ancient aliens.
hehehehe
😅 that is really his entire defence. I also LOVE that his entire evidence were holiday photos he had doing some middle class scuba diving
😂😂@@unbabunga229
That's correct. That is solid logic and completely true, even if you find it to be funny. It will always be the truth. Language matters. Do not speak in absolutes without an objectively complete collection of evidence, this is basic science.
Millions of people watching a 4 hour debate on archaeology like its the next Tyson fight is what JRE is all about.
and its not even too hard of a debate its like ‘i have a british accent and i believe atlantis ruled the world during the ice age’ vs ‘im an actual archaeologist and my dad was an archaeologist and were not censoring this guy’
@@Ninja1Ninja2fully!!! ❤
We need the next debate to be Cadance Owens VS Ben Sharipo on Isreal
Yes Bro, plus we really enjoyed it.
100% agree brother!!
You have to give this archeologist some respect for going on the podcast to actually have this conversation rather than just completely ignore and dismiss Graham.
yea he needed to promote his sponsors and get some publicity... nothing was achieved here apart from some obviously much needed publicity for both guests...
@@6ftSwhat did you expect to be achived?
Nah Dibble is silly he is using BS evidence that Graham doesn’t know about eg moving Egyptian statues and cutting rock, that was 100% a lie. Ben from UnchartedX will respond I hope to put him in his place
@@AA11AA11AAwhy is it bullshit evidence? It’s evidence
Until he said in an article that ideas Graham puts forth are harmful and align with the idea of white supremacy. Dude’s a fool
“Jamie, can I get the HDMI?” Loved this episode, it has taken me days on and off but extremely worth it to learn from both sides.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, what Graham fails to understand is that the burden of proof lies with the people putting forward a theory. A lack of evidence against your theory is not evidence for your theory.
He's never said his wasn't a theory. There's no burden of proof either way. He's only saying his theory and fighting back the amount of insults and censorship from many so-called 'scientists'. What apparently many people lack is logical thinking. He has a theory, some archeologists snap at him. That doesn't mean any part is right, it's just that many scientists are inmovilistic, close minded and short tempered.
There's a huge fact that Hancock says at the beginning, which makes absolute sense and speaks volumes about many archeologists' train of thought, and it's that only a very little amount of research has been done in the Sahara desert, so there's no way any archeologist may imply that the rest of undiscovered land is empty or lack of evidence. He just says we don't know and archeologists say they know even though they've done very little coverage on the total ground
@supenjin1 I suggest you google ‘the scientific method’
Flint isn't a geologist, he should be more humble when it comes to natural stone erosion. Flint can only recognize what he has already seen before. These stones can not be 100% natural. I think humans found this site and customized it. They may have learned to carve stones from their experience on this site. They would have start with small stones and progressively developed craftsmanship to carve and move larger blocks.
@@hoppy303 I suggest you acquire reading comprehension. When you have a theory, you don't have to prove it works, hence its name "theory". Hancock has never said he was 100 % sure his theory is real because he has no proof. Archeologists don't have proof either. That's why these debates exist, because if there were proof, there'd be no need for debate. I suggest you find the difference between "theory" and "reality". It's not that difficult. If you present proof, it's not a theory anymore🤦🏻♀️
Depends on your perception of the proof. Hunter gatherers can just as likely be the survivors of a cataclysm. Starting again. This is what they are trying to hide. They are not trying to discover the past they are trying to conceal it.
My man Flint spent 4 and a half hours not moving his neck so he could wear the headphones like that. All so he could wear that Indiana Jones hat. That's commitment
Lmao
hes really insecure about himself obviously
😂
I like this guy.
That's what a dibble would do
Hancock v Dibble: The battle for the HDMI
And fumbling for reading glasses…
😂
🤣🤣🤣
We already know Randall got the interim cable
😂😂😂
This is Joe Rogan’s sweet spot; sort of a moderator in a conversation with people who know way more than he does.
Ya like you not gonna talk over him, he'll beat your ass up
He knows more than ONE of the guests. Graham is pseudoscience story tellingZ
@@robertnobles8189 I’ll give you the story telling part, but he’s basing it on the same information that mainstream archeology has. Some would call it thinking for himself.
@@robertnobles8189100% joe knows more than dribble for sure. Graham is too ancient to not at least be on par with Joe or higher.
@@ConfusedBoatLake-on5xq Graham is just making up a story. Dibble has the facts and is WAY smarter than the other two.
Real shit. I hope I can be the kind of dad to make my kids proud of me as Flint is of his dad.
Man no cap 💙🌍
hope my boy doesn't go around calling people racist for talking about "atlantis", though. corny shit.
Hell yeah 👍
I agree but Flint seems very liberal which means his dad failed him as a man
@@unbabunga229liberals created the US constitution, ended slavery, ended jim crow, and ended segregation. They don't seem too bad to me.
2 hours in and I'm now fairly convinced nerd battles should become a regular feature on JRE
sad to see so much hate for flint , hes just honest and gets shit on in these comment section.
Flint is in my eyes credible since he trys to educate while grahame and rogan just want to believe.
i would wish there was an ancient lost human civilazation but i was there and my brain told me is no source ....
Wait, why are they “nerds”?
@@GardenofEdens he behaved like a snake and a petulant child. You can agree or disagree with both of their view points but his behaviour was disgusting
@@GardenofEdens He's an odd bird, but his heart is in the right place.
@@GardenofEdens Your entire comment is written in bad faith. You claim Graham and Rogan just want to believe, while Flint merely wants to educate. Yet during the video Graham presents ample evidence and points to back up his point of view, while Flint refuses (repeatedly) to even consider the points Graham is bringing up, treating them with ridicule and disdain (as he did when Graham started showing examples of underwater monuments). Graham also pointed out how the archeological community (and this smoothly translates to science communities at large) stifled and stomped out any opposition to their maintained views, ignoring evidence from their fellow members who were later proven right. They merely wanted to educate, just like Flint here does. There's a special place in the afterlife for folks like yourself.
There has never been someone who has looked more like their name than Flint Dibble.
Nature/nurture both. I feel like he molded and grew into that name as well.
And he dabbles with flint.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
He looks like he rIdes one of those old timey bikes with the big front wheel
@@almiller1371 +1
WOW, thank you for an amazing episode!
I could of listened to more from Graham & Flint... Joe your calmness and control to moderate and help us all see both sides ... Thank you all !
As a an archeology nerd this whole beef is healing my inner child. thanks Joe. 🙌🏼🙏🏼
Lemme get an ounce of Purple Kush, and half ounce of that Flint Dibble.
Gives you the Flint Dribbles though.
@@GenuinelyCurious120I have someone to catch my dribbles ,sir.
Thank you for this. It gave me a good laugh.
Graham Hancock has main stream archaeolgy rolled up in a joint
Definitely a hybrid.... 30/70 indica/sativa
graham intensely fighting with his 3 pairs of glasses is the greatest subplot ever
🤣
Modern day sage problems
💀
Between that and the headphones.
😂
I gotta say this is one of the all-time great Joe Rogan episodes. I was captivated the whole time.
So much fascinating information and perspectives from borh Flint and Graham. Although it got heated at times, they had enough mutual respect for their disagreement not to takeover the episode.
Joe Rogan also did a great job at moderating the conversation. All around just great stuff!
This is easily one of the best episodes. Bloody brilliant 👏
This is so much better than the stand up comedian guests
Ouch. Hot take there. I love both equally but differently and that's why JRE is the best podcast in the world.
Some of the comedian guests turn my terrible day 180⁰ around btw. There's no replacing comedy.
so sick of hearing from those same old jackasses
Lol
I agree always enjoy the scientific talks or people in their field of experience....but still enjoy the occasional funny guest
Flint Dibble is a real life South Park character 😂
Right?
Stuart you're so damn right. Was watching and was like gotta see the comments on this guy.
How is this comment not top-liked
Manbearpig = Climate change
Flint blocked me on Twitter for calling him a coward for not debating Graham 4 months ago
This debate really showed that grahams lack of evidence compared to actual research done by archeologist pokes a lot of holes in his theory. Unfortunately the speculative and unknown will always draw more curiosity then hard evidence that supports the common consensus. This helped me find channels like World of Antiquity that actually cover real archeology.
But it is a little suspicious of them to attack people with different views so much. Especially if they dont have solid evidence (Grahams' side). Also being smug and condescending doesn't leave an impression of confidence in their own work. Also not im not saying they are wrong.
It's hard to debate that most of the word has not been excavated. So surely there is plenty of evidence that has not been uncovered yet
@@ChurritoFrio ok but that doesnt mean theres evidence of an ancient civilization that secretly ruled the world that we havent discovered yet because actual archelogists are afraid of having their work rewritten or being wrong? even though all of grahams points are refuted by actual proof. why doesnt graham become an actual archeologist and go study these things? hes rich from his netflix show, he can fund or get funding to do actual excavations and research into his claims. its like claiming that god is real yet instead of provding proof of said claim, you instead ask others to prove its not real - the burdeon of proof is on the person making the claim.
This may be true but absence of evidence is not proof of anything. And if you listen to what archeologist say about this they are open to the Idea but they just do not find the evidence of a lost society.
@@namelastname9576 Disagreements in the scholarly world is nothing new and is very human you see it in all institutions. And i guess you could consider Flint Smug but I dont think he represents everyone in the instution. The Fact is Graham has attacked archeology/ist since the first time he was on Joe's Podcast back in 2011 equating it to a dogma or religion. I think he plays up the letter they sent to netflix you can read it for yourself. documents.saa.org/container/docs/default-source/doc-governmentaffairs/saa-letter-ancient-apocalypse.pdf
"How much of the Sahara has actually been excavated" is an absurd question, that demonstrates that Graham knows very little about what archeologists actually do; or does he know and is taking advantage of the general public's relative ignorance to make his question and point seem plausible. It isn't. An "advanced lost civilization" would leave a significant material trace on the surface.
Rogan's back on youtube, Graham is back on Rogan. All is well with the world once again
Feels like the good old times innit
RUclips rogan is the best rogan
Holoway
accurate
Spotify subs dropping off, he was gonna lose that contract renegotiation position
Duncan Trussell's disguises are getting better and better.
Oooooh shit i see it now XD
Underrated Comment Budd, Kudos.
You won the internet today!🏆
So funny 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Grahm is just like "well we havent searched every single forest in every single corner of the globe, so you cant PROVE that unicorns dont exist".
Comment is kind of extra funny as unicorns likely did exist. Elasmotherium, okapi, an several other animals as examples. Not saying did exist, just were real animals that turned into a myth. This is common in human history to make myths out of things that were experienced. The Japanese Yokai known as kappa for example are real. It's a description of human children and the horrific things their mothers did to them after a famine hit. Kind of more of a coping mechanism in that case; Understandably so, and kappa's origins have long been forgotten by the vast majority of even Japan's peoples.
Anyway, not saying you're wrong or anything like that. Just saying it could've been a horse with a cutaneous horn or something else weird, but, also normal and real, that inspired the tall tale. Those are basically non-cancerous growths that even humans can get that look like, well, horns.
Granted, I ought to have made an argument about the limitations of LiDAR and the like given that's my actual working background. Also granted, we probably ought to be saying things exist when we lack evidence. Don't really agree with either of them on this. It's kind of funny as well I suppose as they both require both claims to get the funding for the work they're each doing. I seriously doubt most people would watch this if it wasn't on JRE. I would, but I'm an old man still taking courses that will never stop until I have to.
They do though
@@susanooalarichard right but a kappa is just a MYTH. There aren't ACTUAL turtle men that live in lakes and eat cucumbers. So yeah, maybe there were MYTHS about ancient people/gods bringing new technology to hunter gatherers but that doesn't mean there was an ancient lost civilization.
I feel like both guests are neglecting to remember that great innovations can be discovered by literally one person. Nikola Tesla invented or discovered radio, the Tesla coil, alternating current, hydroelectric dams and more all in one lifetime. To me it would seem that he has "otherworldly" intelligence but sometimes people are just really fucking smart. Maybe these myths about receiving agriculture/technology from the gods were really just in awe of some guy who discovered boats or whatever, not an entire ancient race that had lost knowledge.
So much of grahams arguments are just proving “you guys are mean to me” rather than actually refuting anything.
You're projecting that... I disagree with your opinion, but will take it upon my considerations.
- MDK
Even if you're entirely correct, the prospect of "being mean" by publicly claiming in our cultural landscape that someone has, or associates with people who have, racist sentiments is a direct attack on their career and livelihood. I've spent 17 years cultivating my skills through hard work and dedication and you can bet your ass I would be "defensive" if someone attempted to de-platform or blacklist me in my community.
For all of Dibble's clamor over evidence, he seems to be very lax on finding evidence of any racism by Graham Hancock. As for his sources, who cares, exactly? Who's crying about racism?
@@Lucas-ho4ld my point is that whenever Graham is on, he tends to focus more on arguing about defaming him, rather than discussing the topic we are all watching the interview for.
@@MDK3192 I don’t think I’m projecting - Graham literally made a few power point presentations and went on at great length to discuss all the ways the mainstream archaeology community doesn’t respect him.
And he gets very emotional and angry when bringing it up.
@@XViTNg All of his interviews one-on-one with Joe have been stellar. The ones with Randall Carlson are even more focused on the topic. He addressed Schermer and Dibble with some comments about how institutions have stifled archeological findings--which is contextually relevant.
Damn, the Olympic levels of mental acrobatics between Flint and Graham to not insult each other were insane
Flint was very insulting the entire time
Like a bunch of juvenile children 😂 surprised they didn't come to limp slaps
@@SirBobbyDuncanI doubt either of them would want to be restrained by Joe 😂
"I eluded to the fact you were a racist and the fact you're calling me out on it, on one of the worlds largest platforms really is bs, I wanted a civil conversation" 😂 maybe don't say shit like that and get upset when you get called out tf @satturatedphat
It’s finally completed: ruclips.net/video/n4rDvjvyiM0/видео.htmlsi=NBsBbCBAEsOlQiW_
Jamie worked his ass off on this episode. 🤣
I found myself actually feeling bad for him at one point, Im like ‘omg he’s probably so stressed and annoyed rn’ hahahah
@@KelsoNeedy idk what he gets paid, but he needs double for this episode!
@@YosoyTez I’m sure he already makes plentyyy. Make that boy work for his money, damn it! lol idk
@@YosoyTezhe gets a lot of episodes off when it's just a bunch of comedians getting drunk and high though.
Jamie performs heroics!
This is a fabulous debate, very entertaining and informative, moreso regarding sociology than ancient history. Kudos to Hancock and Dibble for doing this.
Edit: Graham's voice is reflecting his age much more now.
Science vs fiction
It is 5pm on the 20th of April. 3.4million people have just watched an archaeology debate. This is why Joe Rogan is the goat 🐐
Exactly!
I surmise by your time stamp you are in Britain Scotland or Ireland, perhaps Spain or Portugal. Thanks for your comment. I concur :)
Yeah, because only people from the same time zone watch this, right? 😂
Where you from bro it’s 2.53 p.m est. on the 20th of april
You from the future 😂😂😂😂
“Jamie pull up the location of Atlantis”
Jamie pull up my pants haha
laughing ....yes jamie
🤣
(finds irrefutable proof) 😂
😂😂😂 duuuude
Huge Graham Hancock fan, but he got absolutely destroyed. Props to Flint for bringing actual facts
Dont think he got destroyed at all .. i think he was able to prove 1) that a very very small portion of explored excavations done 2) organized rebunking and demonizing using white supremacy, nazism etc of any new idea
Me too .....Indiana dreyfus.....won sadly
I now see through Graham and I feel cheated. He is one theatrical prick and he "hoodwinked" us
im not sure we watched the same podcast
46:27 in denial. and again 48:33. Archeologists acting like gatekeepers. 1:40:10
Damn, that's some rare communication debats 🔥 great podcast again. Joe and his guest aced this. Mature approach. 🎉
It's surprising how entertaining it can be to listen to two grown men argue about rocks.
But the two men aren't arguing.
rock solid jre
"They're not rocks! They're geodes!"
It's about our shared common history.
"Mr.Borelli you're such a fantastic moron, it's terrifying "
Get these 2 guys a comedy show where they visit sites together 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣i'd pay such good money to watch these two both being forced to visit sites together, with nobody for company but each other
@@addyn25 peak comedy
"One's an archaeologist, the other's a journalist and they can't stand each other. We've sent them around the world to some of the most famous archaeological sites to duke it out and determine fact versus fantasy. Will they be able to come to a consensus or will this journey of discovery descend into chaos. Coming soon to Netflix: Between a Flint & a Hard Place."
That image made my day :DDDDDD
YESSSS
Absolutely fascinating discussion, with valid points from both perspectives. Perhaps one of the best and most fairly moderated debates i’ve ever listened to. Very impressive that they kept their heads for the most part, and this was fantastic.
It was nice of Dibbles dad to let him borrow a suit for the show.
Naming your new born child Flint Dibble, gives it a 98% chance of it becoming an archeologist.
An archeologist right out of the Flintstone’s.
Careful, we have some elitist hurt egos in the comments 😅
And virgin until 30
@@TheDeven1000 hahaha 😂 💯
I think it’s a pretty cool name.
UFC 304
Dibble vs Hancock
For the Lost Civilization Belt
The real bmf championship xD
We don’t put on “gimmick” fights
Lmfaoooooo I’d put money on graham
Graham will beat that nerd senseless..
Graham would "Conor/Aldo" this dude 💪
I'm sorry. I think Graham is a fascinating, very intelligent guy but when I hear him say, "We don't have time to get into it right now" multiple times on a podcast that ran 4.5 hours.....
I have questions.
This is amazing. Joe get in the ring to referee an intilectual match. This is a stressful situation but all made it through. Bravo gentlemen!
4 1/2 hour archeology debate gets 1.6 *million* views overnight. I'm so thankful that Joe Rogan found his audience and that they found him.
"They" so you come to talk? Are you not apart?
it found you. That's how it works these days.
I wish this was about archeology lmao it's about these dudes personal beef
He was a very sane 3rd party and pushed at the right times.
Exactly. Thank god for independent media, otherwise Dibble and his ilk will keep silencing these revolutionary researchers. Makes you ask, what the fuck are these people trying to hide?
Fascinating how Joe was screaming the night before in the octagon and now having an academic conversation about lost civilizations
An absolute legend
Alpha brain on overtime
Fr! Lmfao
Joe is a Unicorn in this society man. Beast. Legend. Dude.
This podcast was done days before the fights. They edited it and then released
Flint dibble looks like Tom Hank’s at the end of Big when he turns back into a kid in a suit.
I’ve tried coming back to this and watching again. I can’t believe I was able to sit through Hancocks persecution complex, he is so whiny.
I hope they have Dibble on again by himself to talk about ancient history, his parts were fascinating.
Can we tske a minute to appreciate the Archaeological Dad went and called his son Flint 🤣
😂 thanks, I missed it
Good stuff!!🎉
There's levels to nerdiness 😂
I agree that Indiana jones jr absolutely sucks.
But damn.
Graham starts with an attack on archeology being meanies he should’ve just gotten straight to it and let the dorkiest mfer on earth dig his own hole.
Graham has a smarmy way of making points also. Dribble just really made himself unlikable in even his appearance.
Autism is vast. Some can be abrasive, this came across like sandpaper.
I think Joe deserves a bit of recognition for this episode, we all know how much he wants Grahams side to win this argument, a lot of us do because it’s a far cooler story but Joe holds a very central position and pushes back on both opposing sides when a valid point has been made. More episodes like this would be amazing but only because of Joes ability to remain open minded and moderate the conversation accordingly.
Graham is probably also psyop
“We” even though a lot of us also don’t like the psuedoarqchaeology he pedals…..
Yeah, but honestly Joe was more energetic when Graham tried to desperately prove his ideas. In reality Joe wasn't totally unbiased but it got the job done.
Great comment. I agree with it.
We all???? Ok dude
Graham would make a great Mormon apologist. "We haven't found evidence of a massive battle in the Americas were millions died 1500 yrs ago but we also haven't excavated every hill in the Americas down to bedrock either so it's still possible."
The fact that you lost your phone somewhere in your house, then only search in the bathroom and say : ‘im sure the phone is not in the house ‘ is insane 🤣
JR's patience is commendable 👍
I would LOVE to see a tv series where these two go out on archaeological expeditions together and all the conflicts they face 😂
Flint doesn't like to go outside, he just looks at photos
... you could make a romantic comedy along those lines.
I was almost certain one would kill the other after this. 😂😂😂 regardless that would be gold, some good western staredown type ish
They would have learn from each other a lot
Against all odds, they learn to appreciate eachothers' differences. Rated PG13.
We need more of THIS. Unadulterated debate between amicable people with opposing viewpoints. THIS is how we grow our consciousness, our beliefs, our history! Awesome work Joe.
Absolutely 💯 I'd like to see this done in many fields
How about chronology? Archaix data totally refutes Graham's dating.
The British Narratives = nothing more than deception/money scams.
@@wendyweedwhacker 15:22
I would give my left nut if Rogan would get Trump vs Biden on here
This whole podcast is basically a live action twitter argument lol
hey thanks for curing my insomnia
Everyone in this podcast gave their best. Joe was great host asking good questions, Jamie managed to find all the pictures while handling that hdmi cable, Graham fought three pairs of glasses and Flint kept his hat on without breaking his neck or headphones.
This episode should go in history as one of the best.
Bro thank you for this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"old age is a bitch" - Graham Hancock
The UFC of Archeology !!
My reviews is Graham prepared to face up that sneaky online trolls that got him canceled, at this point in life he still got the energy and patience for the airdrops and glasses. Flint clearly is need much more rock dibbling to do and maybe less woke and more dibbling and have little bit of optimising. Make archeology interesting again. Having Joe as a referee is always good in this kinda exchange of energy , and Jamie is i think lost the most calories!!
This comment is probably even MORE hilarious then this episode. Well done my friend.
I’m so glad Joe waited until we had a comments section again to air this episode.
when did the comments disappear 👀?
Spotify buddy
Take it easy chief @@ssumeddead
@@_Bryant.R I'm not your chief, buddyguy
@@ULTRAVISTA.I’m not you buddy guy, PAL!
@4:20:39 What a conclusion statement from Joe! A lot of wisdom is in there.
Despite the geeky first impression he leaves, Flint Dibble was an incredibly articulate and overwhelmingly powerful speaker. Even if Graham is right, I don't think he could've overcome the sheer force that Flint hammered him down with. There are so many things that Graham didn't get to say or bring up, because he was constantly getting roundhouse kicked and chasing Flint's coattails. Just a sad affair overall.
I got about 17 seconds into the interview on Spotify, saw the Indiana Jones hat and immediately closed it and came to watch it on RUclips JUST FOR the comments, and boy I was not disappointed 😂
Same 😂
I really thought they were gonna flame flint dibble harder, lmao.😂The dude looks like he smells his own farts.
Unfortunately, I got way further than that before I shut it off and came here for the video. Boy was I surprised at how this man looks! The voice did not give it away! 😂
Men of culture, gather round …
Poor guy needs to lose his virginity.
3.6 million views in 4 days and still counting for a 4 hour debate on archaeology is insane in a good way.
That's not including Spotify and the other platforms
so now they load the full shows here? before it was only like 10 to 20 minutes clips.
@@lcfflc3887 yeah full episodes are back.
16.5 million by 4/21 on RUclips alone. This is huge
Plenty of educational RUclipsrs get 10 million + views per video. People wanna learn, that never went away. Dumb people are just louder.
Regarding underwater structures and sculptures off the coast of Japan, there is going to be damage and effects of time so considering it's been under water for over 10,000 years, the fact that it still has so many recognizably man made features is frankly incredible.
How do you know how old the site is? You can't date the site by how deep underwater it is, especially in Japan. In their recent earthquake and tsunami, the eastern coastline sank by 10meters(33+feet) within 8 mins, and that is a geological process that has been occurring in Japan since the island rose out of the ocean. If Graham Hancock visited that coast today and didn't know about their earthquake and tsunami, he would assume that coastline was flooded hundreds of years ago based on how deep the water is there, showing how faulty that dating method is.
The size and shape of the coastlines is a direct consequence of geological processes and therefore cannot be used to date underwater sites. We have never used sea level to date underwater sites, not now, not in the past.
How do you know how old Yonaguni is?
@@blaizecunningham6080 well yes of course I cannot know exactly how old the site is but it is certainly very old and to your point, also in a very geologically active area, so the site would have been subjected to a lot of abuse from the water, the wind, as well as from below, so I am saying that makes the forms and shapes that appear to be man made, all the more remarkable, even if not perfect by an measure.
@@michaelralston9608 Unfortunately, “very old” cannot be a way of expressing archaeology. Contrary to what people think, archaeology is a science based on facts, evidence, and analysis. If you try to publish research full of speculation or hypotheses without solid foundations, other professionals reviewing your work will dismiss it. I am not an expert in Japanese or Asian archaeology, but there is probably an estimated chronology based on material culture or even radiocarbon or U/Th dating. What you can't do is throw out speculations without evidence like people like Graham do.
@@blaizecunningham6080 What a load of rubbish. You can't prove what you just dribbled.
@@teeboxmedia in the comment section of a video featuring Graham Hancock I have been accused of dribble and further, the inability to prove said dribble. I really have seen it all now, thanks for the laugh.
You could be more specific, and perhaps I could explain and offer some compelling evidence, instead of you looking things up for yourself. But hey ho, that how she goes sometimes.
Just Google, how far did the Japanese coastline drop during the recent earthquake and tsunami, then you tell me I'm waffling. Don't worry, I'll wait.
Jamie was the unsung hero of this episode. He's an HDMI cable samurai.
Of every episode 👌
I mean he didnt even know how to get audio from an HDMI signal.
Just wondering though isn't I possible to have a few hdmi cables in this modern podcast room? Even if a second screen was needed. Then there would be less to switch around or airdrop?
@user-et9zf3ne5p Not 100% true, there are some really weird edge cases.
@@averagealienSDits not that he didnt know how to get audio from it, the normal audio is probably hooked up from his pc going to dedicated speakers, and not coming from the tv/monitors speakers. It is probably just not set up so that the tv speakers record audio.
I wish I could’ve seen the interaction between Joe and Jamie the moment Flint and Graham walked out of the studio.
😳😬😅
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I’m only 5 minutes in & this comment made me laugh !
Probably talked about how much of a duechebag Flint comes off as regardless of what he knows or doesnt. Poor guy did not get enough hugs from his narcissistic dad.
I agree
Great discussion, we need more of these. The future of science debates is in the JRE podcast, and Joe can probably organize peace talks in his show, he has such authority as the host.
I enjoyed this episode. It's now one of my favorites.
Rogan is incredibly fair in this debate. I am really impressed because he’s obviously such a huge friend and fan of Hancock but Joe holds Hancock accountable and questions him in the same way as Flint, and is very open to listening to the evidence from both sides.
Nah, goy Jo loves Hancock aliens DMT theories
Graham had no evidence.
@@olemanyounger5040 exactly he even confessed it during the episode.
Pics that "look like" stuff is not evidence ffs, thats exactly whar science is about. There is no "looks like", evidence and conclusions are verifiably testable, if they canr be tested then its a hypothesis. Graham has no evidence
Joe dished some nasty blows to each of them.
Like that one was funny: 1:06:50 "I don't think it's the computer's problem".
I can't believe how much I have missed the comments section...pure gold.
Exactly this. Listening to this podcast on Spotify without the comment section is not the same experience.
So fucking true!
here here
Big up Jamie for dibbling up all them flints!!!
Flint struggling to hard to engage with basic hypotheticals that it hurts my head
Now I need another podcast of a mainstream geologist debating with Randall Carlson as well.
He's actually a brown belt in Brazilian jui jitsu. That's how Joe became aware of him.
Yo do realize mainstream means its in your face like Joe is mainstream? Gram is mainstream because he has shows and is constantly talking about things he didn't study. While flint is not mainstream along with every other scientist in the world. Dr are more mainstream them archeologist and geologist. I hope this explanation helps you in the future
@@blainfeaster4772replace "mainstream" with "establishment" and you'll get what he meant, hope this helps.
@@hamon_master1390 well said bro!!!!
@@blainfeaster4772keep working at it 😅
3.1M people tuning in for an archeological debate is insane! Joe Rogan did it again
Dude, this is how it should be!
Flint's hat doesn't look very dusty...
I listened to it on spotify so these numers are not evem close i think
16.5 as of this post
Just on YT....
Wunderbare Themen, wie immer ein toller Podcast. Danke für die Arbeit. Ohnegleichen!
I have never been more excited for a podcast
It should be mandatory for presidential candidates to debate the opposition on Rogan.
I just had this exact thought.
Jamie pull up the chart of the inflammation rate
@@DH-. inflation rate* lmao
@@itzspartan5524inflammation rate 😂😂😂 wait, let him cook lmao
Trump wont even do a normal debate with 2 minute answers so good luck
This is Zack Galifianakis’s best performance since Baskets.
It's not Zack, its Mini-Zack
Zack with aids
@@kennadyyoung8237 Mini-Zack destroys Mini-Claudio Ranieri
You would have gotten more likes if you wrote: "Best performance since Due Date".
His twin brother was up for the role until Zach swooped in last minute
More of the type debates. Bravo 🎉 good show
Graham: *points to funny shaped rocks* "looks man made to me".
Flint: "prove it".
Graham: "see they just refuse to accept alternative theories."
Flint laughed at and ridiculed this suggestion with his colleagues.
@@victordelorientis8763it’s ok to laugh at morons pushing moronic ideas
@@victordelorientis8763 as he should
@@rotag-itsni Just like you laughed at the "moronic ideas" of researchers throughout the history.
In 20 century scientific establishment and medical authorities were screaming about the health benefits of smoking, radioactive water, etc.
@@Leve_Palestina_ Jesus fucking Christ, you’re bringing smoking into this? Just accept the fact that your brain isn’t cut out for critical thinking
To Flint, Graham, and Joe: thank you so much for doing this. This is the type of discussion that the internet desperately needs.
I can’t tell if you’re joking but I genuinely enjoy this content.
Yea, but now I can’t go on believing some ancient advanced civilization, and feel like I wasted my time watching ancient apocalypse.
Graham kind of a fake scientist.
“You’re a tourist, I dig”
Yeah….no
As someone who's drank ayahuasca, and undergoing the deep philosophical questions this journey requires... my man in the hat clearly has not.
I therefore find anything he has to say completely irrelevant.
Call me biased ... but his tone of voice is not authentic
@@and__lam1152 You did an ayahuasca trip so evidence for things is now invalid? What are you talking about
As a construction worker I can guarantee you my boss doesn’t want to hear anything about a work stoppage due to found archeological structures and/ or objects. I can only imagine how many are bulldozed in other countries
Fr, if you find a arrowhead or any sort of artifact, that will stop dirt from moving and being productive
I 2nd that 100%
Your boss is a horrible person then
Yep same here
And its awful. Imagine how many important discoveries we have already built over that could be groundbreaking
Flint Dibble, my nibble, what's the skibble, bibble? Foe shibble my snibble..
Scribble the nibbles for kibble and vittles my sisters scissors snibble. The Dibble for schnitzel crizzle and lizzles fizzissles dizzle and lidar!
Thank you for the entertainment Joe
Hearing them dig at each other in professional ways is so funny. “That’s a very good idea flint, thank you”
No pun intended, I’m sure
@@thomascorsi3178that had to be intentional 😂
Gentlemen, our egos are on the line! (And education is impugned.)
😂
@@jonathanbolanos5272 it’s almost more impressive if it wasn’t
3.3 million people watched this video in just 3 days! (On RUclips alone)
A 4.5 hour nerd debate on archeology.
Fascinating.
Goes to show where people's interest really lies haha
Dude, its about humian history and the beginning of it that people are interested in, not the archiology it self.
Conspiracy theories, not archeology
@@pugs909Yep, this is exactly it. If you see all the rabid Hancock fans commenting on his appearances, what they fixate on is the conspiracy angle with the archaeology as a distant second.
It's just another example of how gullible the average person is. They want to be entertained more than use critical thinking skills.
@@jorgemartinez42069I bet you comment "source!?" in comments 20 times a day to feel good about yourself.
for someone that wanted to debate, Hancock spent more time playing the victim instead of trying to show his facts
When you break his media down, playing the victim is only real talent on display.
He spends a significant fraction of Ancient Apocalypse doing the same victim dance.
Playing the victim card is his big defense against any scientific criticism of his literature/media claims.
He knows a big fraction of his audience are Christians or lapsed Christians that get hit in the feels by the martyr trick.
After all, his only real academic expertise is sociology, he knows enough about how people tick to push the right buttons.
Someone should inform him that among megalithic construction, humans have also made great achievements in 'bi-focals'.
What a great episode. Kudos to finally bringing both sides to one table. There should certainly a more of this. PS. The developers of HDMI must have certainly got extra satisfaction from this episode!!!😂
I’ve battled this man before.
Always had a Geodude
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This is the best comment of the whole section! 😂
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💀 Broooo - UNDERRATED COMMENT!
Petition to have Rogan host a 4 hour presidential debate ^^^
Idk if either candidate would survive 😂 also they'd probably try and bomb threat the studio if they actually tried to hold it 😅
i wouldnt be surprised if there was no debate
Would be the most watched video
Wont work. Rogan would be honest, fair, and equal. Thats not allowed.
Have Graham Hancock in there too to keep things fresh
This guy just exposed Graham as a fraud and a grifter. LOL. He was wearing his debunking hat.
It’s so refreshing when an expert in a particular field of study dissects a pseudo expert who makes bold unsupported assertions.
We see it everyday on social media.
It is, however he barely gets a word in because Hancock's above all else very much likes the sound of his own voice. I love how he refers to papers and then says he doesn't expect anyone to look at them. Of course he doesn't, that is his whole modus operandi, preaching to people who don't have the time or inclination to read the literature. When he finds someone that does, he reverts to the whole 'you're mean to me' argument.
Graham a narcissist man. He tried to make the whole episode about the assassination of his character rather than presenting believable evidence
@@purplengold983
He may be a narcissist too, but IMHO the entire act is about preserving his income revenue rather than anything else.
To do so he will say or do anything.
@@mnomadvfx Interesting isn't it , 90% of the comments cannot see this podcast for what it is .
Dibble reacting like an Archaeologist
Hancock running a business successfully using Dibble
Joe running a business successfully using both of them
And calls him a racist for no reason ... They're both idiots really
I wish this was a monthly episode. Where 2 different opinions of an interesting subject debate their points. Really interesting.
Yes! Underrated comment.
Minus the childlike bickering and name calling by the cosplay side.
Minus the fact that Graham Hancock is an intellectual hack with no integrity. I'd appreciate 2 actual learned opinions though
Agree, this is great. And Joe is letting the bickering happen, which I really like too, we are seeing a very pure debate.
Yeah but I wish it was 2 actual experts arguing the actual frontier of their subject rather than 1 expert and 1 crackpot.
I came here from Spotify just for the comments and that was the best decision I’ve ever made
The whole podcast was HamCock crying about how mean the other big boys are to him. Mean while Mr.Pebbles is bringing the science :D
Must have a boring life.
Me too!!! lol flint is a pip squeak
@@royaldesignpythonsorionjon720 HamCock got DIBBLED
exactly lol. i listen to these at 5am when I go for a walk with my dog,. I really feel grateful
Needs to change his name to Dribble.
Thanks Graham Flint and Joe . ❤
Joe: Let's take a break and get some air...
Graham: Fuck that
😂
lol where is this?
Pretty much lol the dibbler is getting cooked
@@ethomas2084 yea someone please tag this lol
Gramps wasn't fucking around.
@@ethomas2084about 2:20:00
I'm going to start a GoFundMe for a properly fitted shirt for Dibble and progressive lens glasses for Hancock.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Flint got that shirt on clearance in big and tall section 😂😢😂😢
Flint Dibble, more like Flint Dribble!
Flint Dibble looks like he is either 25 or 75. it’s extraordinary.
Like how water can be liquid, solid and gas under the right conditions, this dude is a walking triple-point of age. 25, 50 and 75 all at the same time.
Flint defies the laws of physics like quantum photosynthesis
Hilarious. I literally laughed out loud at your comment.
Hahaha
No, he dad'nt. He said DAD again. Drink.