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Despite what Andara said, Osha's feelings were NOT why they didn't tell the truth. There was nothing noble about the choice. All four of them were guilty of giving into their fears and desires. Sol wanted a student, that desire led him to see the witches as a threat. Torbin's desire to go home led him rush into a situation where conflict was inevitable. Kalnacca was not strong enough to resist, and he became a vicious animal in that moment. Andara sin was worst of all, she knew they did wrong, and didn't want to be punished, because as team leader, all their individual failure were her responsibility. They were afraid of losing their stations and desires, and as Palpatine said in Revenge of the Sith, all who have power, are afraid to lose it, even the Jedi. These four showed that so well.
@@Larsgunnarr I'd have force pushed before I would have stabbed her. That being said, it was still a poor decision on Aniseya's part. You can't just do weird stuff like that, especially in a tense situation. Especially with these irrational, emotional, uncentered dollar store "Jedi" who have the discipline of an untrained puppy.
@@Larsgunnarrmaybe she was trying to get her daughter out of harm's way? Korril used the same method to flee from Sol after he cleaved her staff in two so yeah that could have been all that was. Kinda like apparating in the Harry Potterverse actually which could've looked scary to muggles but wasn't anything dark to wizards and witches ✌️😁 #istilllovestarwars
Thanks, Sonny! Thanks, Major Dad! 🌑 The "we must be sacrificed" misquote little 'Mae' conveyed to 'Indara' and 'Sol' had a huge impact. They literally thought the girls were in mortal danger. 'Aniseya' actually said, "It is about sacrificing a *part* of ourselves". 🔸 It's also wild to learn that 'Sol' was imposing his own wants (to have a Padawan... even though he might not be ready) onto the situation. He even almost lost his temper with 'Indara' at the end. Looked like he was set to hit her. That shows a very un-Jedi-like conflict that adds to his motivations. 🔸 And don't get me started on 'Torbin' being all immature from boredom and homesickness. 🔸 'Indara' turned out to be the most reasonable one of all.
} Mae MISS-quoted Mother Aniseya, she did NOT say anything about sacrificing people at all, she was talking about letting go of wants and moving past fear, to let go of fear, that was she meant by "sacrifice". } The fire spread through the 100+ year old wiring in the walls all the way to the old power generator room and the old equipment exploded } Torbin made A LOT of mistakes and misjudgements based on his own fear and mistrust } Sol made A LOT of assumptions with little evidence, and he acted out of emotions, acted out of fear } They were told NO by the Jedi council, they were all supposed to leave, they should have let it go and should have LEFT } Aniseya turned into "shadow" to teleport her and Mae to a safe place, Sol assumed it was an attack and reacted, but striking with his saber was an over-reaction on his part ) Mother Korril acted out of fear, anger and mistrust of the Jedi, she needlessly escalated things in several ways. } Indara severed the connection the witches had to Kelnacca to mind puppet him, but severing that connection killed them unintentionally; she didn't know that would happen. Ever see The Matrix? It's like abruptly unplugging 50 people from the Matrix, which results in death >> Torbin blames him self for being selfish and choosing to go back to the fortress to snag the twins, blinded by his emotions, his actions made a tense situation so much worst, so he took a vow of silence and contemplation, and drank the poison to atone for his part that set off the tragic events >> Kelnacca attacking Torbin, scratching his face is a huge taboo in Wookie culture, it's called going "mad claw" even though he wasn't in control of himself, he still blames himself and so exiled himself. *** Aniseya's Coven so far seems to have NO link to "the Sith" ***
Love watching you and your dad's reactions it's so cool you can share the SW luv😁👍 I think mother Aniseya going smoke and taking Mae with her was just her trying to get her daughter safely out of harm's way since Torbin and mother Korril were about to throw down. After Sol killed her partner and disabled her staff mother Korril used it to flee for her own safety too. Indara was the most level headed of them all. Torbin was impulsive and petulant but he does come across as very young there. Sol seemed hotheaded and blinded by his own desire to have a padawan to raise and shape. I feel like Sol was most culpable however as he broke into their home twice. Everything that happened after their second home invasion could be seen as defending your home, family and children and I'd go mama bear too if that was my home. The really disappointing part though was lying by omission to Osha. Yes Mae DID start the fire and yes everyone WAS lost but these things weren't linked the way Sol implied. It was a cop out and I wonder how or if Sol will be redeemed with only 1 episode to go. ✌️😄#istilllovestarwars
Acolyte all-flashback episode 7 was very good. I liked the references to the hyperspace catastrophe that wiped out life on some planets; of which in the last episode Jedi master Vernestra has pain/nausea from traveling through hyperspace due to her strong connection to the force. The fact that Sol was an emotional Jedi like Dooku, Anakin and Quigon Jinn was seen in quite a big way. The turn of the plot, who is responsible for the death of the entire Clan of these Witches who follow the path of Bogan = Darkness in magic, they were quite similar to the Witches of the Sisterhood of the Night from Dathomir, where Darth Maul also comes from. The fights were great, the choreography was great and seeing two Jedi fight against a possessed Wookie Jedi was great. But most of all, normally, just like Mother Cora, I felt this emotional pain in my heart. When Sol killed her partner, co-mother of two children and the love of her life, mother Aniseya, in front of her eyes. The destruction reminded me of something similar to when the Jedi destroyed the entire planet of Korriban, where the original Sith race came from.
In the scene with Aniseya's mother, when Mae was asking for help, we had the opportunity to see some kind of magic where Anaseya was spitting and it also affected Mae. Do you think she was trying to teleport Osha.????
What I loved the most about episodes 3 and 7 is how they show neither the Jedi nor the witches were innocent, and that like sadly too many real life conflicts it was born out of prejudices and misunderstandings.
I appreciate the fact that this episode was a story in which the parental figures ALL did the wrong things, both the Witches and Jedi had a hand in the witches' demise. I wonder if that'll be Mae's and Oshia's takeaway when they realize what happened--Osha might come to a different conclusion, as I think the exercise she's partaking in now will allow her to tap into her memories on the Jedi ship lying unconscious; helping her to hear the Jedi arguing about their role in all this--Osha will be getting a very one-sided story that makes the Jedi look like they were the only ones who screwed things up. While this story makes it look like Sol was projecting his own feelings on Torbin and Osha, that's not how this story started. More importantly, we already saw the story from Osha's point of view, and her entire family disregarded her wishes. Why was Osha outside of the fortress practicing her Force abilities? Was she doing so because her connection to the Force was weak since she was a child? The first episode showed us that she had no Force abilities. The third episode showed us that Osha could use the Force. We saw her playing with a bird under the Bunta tree, but was she really playing with it or was she trying to do more through the Force? When Mae interrupted her, Mae did the same thing Osha was doing, but with more control, and Osha snapped at her. She didn't just snap, she expressed how she wanted to be somewhere else, away from Mae and her coven, and how she wanted to be something else. When Osha hid behind Mae for protection, what did Mother Koril do? She snapped at Osha, telling her how she expected better from her. Osha was living in her sister's shadow and she had an overbearing mother pushing her more than she could stand to be pushed. Inside, Osha was crying for help and no one was listening. No one, except for Sol. For whatever reason, Osha's connection to the Force is wonky, despite her high sensitivity to it. She knew what Mae knew and Mae knew what the other witches knew because she was being groomed to be their future leader. If Mother Aniseya and Koril could use the Force to get into the minds of others, should Mae and Osha have that ability too? Did Osha inadvertently reach out to the Jedi, Sol, when she wanted to get away from her family? Sol could feel the girls in danger, but the other Jedi couldn't. In the same way, the Emperor couldn't feel Luke reaching out to Vader through the Force. What if Osha inadvertently reached out to Sol? Maybe deep down he did want a padawan, and Osaha wanted to be something her sister and family weren't, and that's a Jedi. When Osha told Qimir that her master was powerful in the Force and that he would find her. He corrected her and told her that that power she spoke of was her power, not Sols. I think this is another clue that Sol has always been able to find Osha through the Force because Osha, unbeknownst to her is calling out to him. What would have happened if Mother Aniseya didn't violate Torbin's mind? She turned his fears against him. He already wanted to go home, and she created a new fear, witches! Why did she do that? Was she hoping her actions would make the Jedi leave? She seemed to know more about the Jedi than we got to see, but surely she didn't believe that scaring a padawan was going to make the witches' case any better. Mother Koril was tired of running, she wanted to fight and keep her home. We know that this coven was on the run until they found Brendok and that they were hunted down. Probably not by Jedi, but by those using the Republic's laws to kill them legally. That didn't matter, as we already know from the third story that the Jedi had a hand to play in taking the Force away from every Force user in the galaxy that wasn't Jedi and the Senate helped them do it. So the witches, probably like every other Force user in the galaxy, have a natural disdain towards Jedi. Couple that with the Jedi breaking into their home and hinting a taking your children from you, I can see why she took up a defensive position when the Jedi stepped towards her. Torbin drawing and igniting his lightsaber was also justified given what Mother Aniseya did to him earlier. He wasn't going to wait and see what might happen this time. Surely, Torbin told the other masters what happened to him at the coven, so when Mother Aniseya turned into black mist and started drawing Mae into her, it was easy to understand why Sol did what he did--Mae looked afraid as it was happening. This story mentioned the Nightsisters to tell us that they were active before the prequels too, which makes sense given that Sidious was already in league with them before the Phantom Menace. The Nightsisters have been a problem for centuries it seems, so it is no wonder how things quickly spiraled out of control when they did. Sol went to the coven with noble intentions, to help a girl crying out to him through the Force--this episode showed him one time reaching out through the Force to locate them. Mother Aniseya said that she was going to let Osha go because that was what she wanted, but she didn't make that clear to the Jedi. Mother Koril was preparing to strike the Jedi and Mother Aniseya was turning into a black mist drawing Mae into her while the other witches were keeping their weapons trained on Torbin and Sol. A sneeze would have been enough to make either side make the first move. Had both sides been more level-headed, I think this all could have been avoided, but Mother Koril likely would haven't made it happen. She didn't want her daughters going with the Jedi. Speaking of Mother Koril, I'm not so sure that she is dead. Will we be seeing her next week? Someone sent Osha the Force vision of Mae, it it doesn't seem like it was Qimir who did it! This was a good episode. I can't wait to see how this gets wrapped up!
You don't think that the fortress has collapsed. Due to the fact that the fire damaged the electronics and its gradual overloading and short-circuiting then caused the reactor explosion. And the oil burned similarly to the Olympic fire, which in reality burns like this even on a stone.?
Mae didn't say what her mother told her correctly. Her mother said something in the lines of "Ascension is about walking through fear. It is about sacrificing a part of yourself for the greater good" The Jedi shouldn't be getting their facts from a 9 yr old because they may, and in this case did, misspeak about what her mother told her. People that are trying to say that this is Jedi looking bad have to remember that the Council made the decision to not take the girls, it was the decision of Torbin and Sol.
Sol is a creepy child kidnapper, and if people had just listened to Indara then none of this would have happened. Anisaya's black cloud trick was a teleportation thing. She just wanted to get Mae to safety.
We got most of the answers we needed. There are some things that one can over explain especially when it comes to fantasy. The finale really needs to be at least an hour regardless
Kinda? Just maybe not in the same ways as the clones we're familiar with as the Jedi posit that the girls were created by splitting one consciousness into two bodies
@Ehterlink I think the caption describes them as "falling over lifelessly " that coupled with Indara's devastated facial expression leads me to believe she unintentionally killed the coven
This is a universe where using every day objects as props is celebrated. In TESB, a guy used an ice cream maker as a data core. In Andor they used a Polaroid camera as a navigation device. The Great Hyperspace disaster was the inciting incident for the series of High Republic books and comics. A cargo ship traveling through Hyperspace broke apart. The resulting debris exited Hyperspace at light speed and devastated multiple systems and planets.
Same way an asteroid collision killed the Dinosaurs. Read the High Republic books and it shows what happened. Great series. Oh and it's a Vergence. Easy mistake to make.
This was a really beautiful, tragic episode. I have been very impressed with Koganada’s work in this series. His shot comp and lighting and such, it’s been really good. Master Indara was awesome in this ep, I think. Sol did basically everything wrong back then, but it just makes me appreciate his character even more. Give me ALL the flawed characters and their arcs and journeys.
Funny that the only serious thing against the witches was the "sacrifice" talk, and actually that was a misunderstanding from may, Mother Aniseya did say something about sacrifice in episode 3 but not like that.... Good reaction as always.... Keep rocking and stay safe....
This show was intentional stretched out to prolong its calendar run. They wanted to get more than 1 month of sub time out of it. Ep1+2 = Ep1, Ep3+7 = Ep2, Ep4+5 = Ep3 and I'm going to assume Ep6+8 = Ep4. This is my biggest issue with this show. The episodes aren't satisfying because they were not originally conceived to be chopped up like they are. Especially considering we end up waiting a week for the story to spin its wheels and not really progress. Take Sol and Mae last episode. Nothing of relevance actually progressed. What little you do get, going from Sol not knowing it's Osha to knowing it's Osha, cannot justify an entire episode. This newest episode was just badly written. Period. This is not my opinion, but objective fact. First, Sol is given no reason to think they girls are in danger. He is given no reason to have any attachment to Osha. Torbin had the data from their blood and the council would have recalled them if the results proved there was a vergence. Going to the coven and confronting the witches was completely unnecessary as they already had the proof. The idea that a Padawan would openly disobey their master like that... no, there is no way. Both Torbin and Sol are to emotional and irrational to be taken seriously as Jedi trained since toddlers. It was lazy writing. Again, they string us along for 7 episode for that? Ep3 and 7 should have just been one episode earlier on.
Things got complicated this episode. I think both sides made mistakes, and I like that we get more grey area situations in Star Wars. Makes it way more interesting and realistic.
@@KatSonny hey Sonny! Up to this point it was only referenced by the imperials. Chronologically, first by the imperial scientist Hemlock in bad batch, and then in mandalorian by Moff Gideon (unless something is in some comics or books I haven’t read). If you think about how close to the chest palpatine kept these projects, it makes sense that they would use a code word for their work. The Jedi, on the other hand, had no reason give midichlorians a code word, especially considering how loose with the term they were in the phantom menace. So then… why would the Jedi prior to them be saying m-count?
@@WarlordPaynelll while funny…. They wouldn’t be that lazy in high republic and then go BACK to saying the full word in the phantom menace. IJS. They just wrote it like that to try and trigger some connection in viewers to mandalorian
I liked that Sol is absolutely an aggressor here but at the same time that line from Mae about how happy she is to 'be a sacrifice' was really, really dark. The witches becoming enraged at the Mother for allowing Osha to leave because clearly the twins are meant for their own survival in some kind of ritual. Sacrificing the girls for some dark side ritual in the force. So Sol gets desperate and strangely attached and it makes a bit more sense. It makes a bit more sense why the level headed one Endara (Indara?) starts to become curious as well. I think the Mother originally intended to use the girls as the rest of the tribe did but she actually fell in love with them like a real Mother and defected. She had dark intentions at the start but love changed her mind. And now in present time we see Sol turning off his locator and doing his own thing again. Dude really hasn't learned anything in all those years.
@@M0ldyBr3ad55 The girls are also a part of a 'whole' person. They're a split. The witches refusal to let them go was an obvious hint that they were using them for something and if the girls left - whatever they were plotting - they'd be unable to fulfill. They 'created' the girls through some dark side force magic and they created them for a reason. It came across that the 'Mother' actually fell for them and it changed her outlook.
We see the Jedi Mind Trick all the time and we cheer it on, but when the witches do it, suddenly it's invasive? I love how this show challenges the audience just as much as its characters.
Actually on this show, Yord and Sol did it before and they made it seem like invasive, so it's the same, a more mature/real way to appreciate things, but can be something else to hate about the series
Acolyte all-flashback episode 7 was very good. I liked the references to the hyperspace catastrophe that wiped out life on some planets; of which in the last episode Jedi master Vernestra has pain/nausea from traveling through hyperspace due to her strong connection to the force. The fact that Sol was an emotional Jedi like Dooku, Anakin and Quigon Jinn was seen in quite a big way. The turn of the plot, who is responsible for the death of the entire Clan of these Witches who follow the path of Bogan = Darkness in magic, they were quite similar to the Witches of the Sisterhood of the Night from Dathomir, where Darth Maul also comes from. The fights were great, the choreography was great and seeing two Jedi fight against a possessed Wookie Jedi was great. But most of all, normally, just like Mother Cora, I felt this emotional pain in my heart. When Sol killed her partner, co-mother of two children and the love of her life, mother Aniseya, in front of her eyes. The destruction reminded me of something similar to when the Jedi destroyed the entire planet of Korriban, where the original Sith race came from.@@KatSonny
@@KatSonnyIn the scene with Aniseya's mother, when Mae was asking for help, we had the opportunity to see some kind of magic where Anaseya was spitting and it also affected Mae. Do you think she was trying to teleport Osha.????
@@KatSonnyYou don't think that the fortress has collapsed. Due to the fact that the fire damaged the electronics and its gradual overloading and short-circuiting then caused the reactor explosion. And the oil burned similarly to the Olympic fire, which in reality burns like this even on a stone.?
Jedi enter people's minds all the time. This was an invasion of a people's home and she wanted them gone. The way you're saying it is like it was Aniseya's fault and not the Jedi that literally broke into their compound to steal their children. In this case the victims are the witches, not the Jedi.
We literally talk about how we understand the witches and their reaction to the Jedi because they just broke in. And in an earlier reaction to this show we talk about how mind tricks and reading peoples minds is in reality quite invasive. Doesn’t change that we also thought Aniseya entering Torbins mind was pretty invasive. I’m not quite sure you’re actually listening to what we’re saying, both during the reaction but also in the discussion afterwards.
Torn on this one. Very unjedilike behavior from the team. Torbin was acting like a spoiled kid, not someone who had been training to be a Jedi. The action was good but the writing on this episode was pretty weak. Just my opinion.
So why did he drink the poison? What exactly did the Jedi do wrong? This episode used half the same footage from episode 3. No new revelations in this one. I struggle to see where $180,000,000 went to be honest
I'm 100% with you on where that money went. I mean, I can't figure it out. It literally doesn't seem possible that it cost this much. Many, many beautiful Hollywood movies with tons of CGI and A list actors somehow cost way less than this. It makes absolutely no sense and if I were Disney I'd be doing some sort of massive audit or something. 🤷🏻♀
The problem with Sols intentions is that his sudden infatuation with the twins makes no sense. It's either creepy or there is something emotionally wrong with Sol.
I think it's been pretty obvious Sol has emotional issues. Emotional instability seems to be a trait for many of the Jedi and Sith. That and the fact the Jedi hold themselves up as being better than everyone else.
'But you're children..how can you become the leaders?' - that might be the dumbest piece of writing I've ever heard. Does she understand that children....grow up?
I actually liked seeing nuanced and more human Jedi. Foibles, anxiety, attachment in a different way. It was so much better than Anakin throwing 5 year old tantrums and that being the 'dark side'.
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Despite what Andara said, Osha's feelings were NOT why they didn't tell the truth. There was nothing noble about the choice. All four of them were guilty of giving into their fears and desires.
Sol wanted a student, that desire led him to see the witches as a threat.
Torbin's desire to go home led him rush into a situation where conflict was inevitable.
Kalnacca was not strong enough to resist, and he became a vicious animal in that moment.
Andara sin was worst of all, she knew they did wrong, and didn't want to be punished, because as team leader, all their individual failure were her responsibility.
They were afraid of losing their stations and desires, and as Palpatine said in Revenge of the Sith, all who have power, are afraid to lose it, even the Jedi. These four showed that so well.
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Mae mistakenly saying "sacrificed " played into all the Jedi's fears of the unknown and their beliefs that they know what's right for everyone else.
Now we know why Mae does not believe Jedi when they say, "Jedi do not attack the unarmed".
turning in to a big black ghost thing and sucking up mae at the same time? unarmed? wtf is she even doign
@@Larsgunnarr I'd have force pushed before I would have stabbed her. That being said, it was still a poor decision on Aniseya's part. You can't just do weird stuff like that, especially in a tense situation. Especially with these irrational, emotional, uncentered dollar store "Jedi" who have the discipline of an untrained puppy.
@@Larsgunnarrmaybe she was trying to get her daughter out of harm's way? Korril used the same method to flee from Sol after he cleaved her staff in two so yeah that could have been all that was. Kinda like apparating in the Harry Potterverse actually which could've looked scary to muggles but wasn't anything dark to wizards and witches ✌️😁 #istilllovestarwars
@@maureec hard to contest with Jedi reflexes
Thanks, Sonny! Thanks, Major Dad! 🌑 The "we must be sacrificed" misquote little 'Mae' conveyed to 'Indara' and 'Sol' had a huge impact. They literally thought the girls were in mortal danger. 'Aniseya' actually said, "It is about sacrificing a *part* of ourselves". 🔸 It's also wild to learn that 'Sol' was imposing his own wants (to have a Padawan... even though he might not be ready) onto the situation. He even almost lost his temper with 'Indara' at the end. Looked like he was set to hit her. That shows a very un-Jedi-like conflict that adds to his motivations. 🔸 And don't get me started on 'Torbin' being all immature from boredom and homesickness. 🔸 'Indara' turned out to be the most reasonable one of all.
} Mae MISS-quoted Mother Aniseya, she did NOT say anything about sacrificing people at all, she was talking about letting go of wants and moving past fear, to let go of fear, that was she meant by "sacrifice".
} The fire spread through the 100+ year old wiring in the walls all the way to the old power generator room and the old equipment exploded
} Torbin made A LOT of mistakes and misjudgements based on his own fear and mistrust
} Sol made A LOT of assumptions with little evidence, and he acted out of emotions, acted out of fear
} They were told NO by the Jedi council, they were all supposed to leave, they should have let it go and should have LEFT
} Aniseya turned into "shadow" to teleport her and Mae to a safe place, Sol assumed it was an attack and reacted, but striking with his saber was an over-reaction on his part
) Mother Korril acted out of fear, anger and mistrust of the Jedi, she needlessly escalated things in several ways.
} Indara severed the connection the witches had to Kelnacca to mind puppet him, but severing that connection killed them unintentionally; she didn't know that would happen. Ever see The Matrix? It's like abruptly unplugging 50 people from the Matrix, which results in death
>> Torbin blames him self for being selfish and choosing to go back to the fortress to snag the twins, blinded by his emotions, his actions made a tense situation so much worst, so he took a vow of silence and contemplation, and drank the poison to atone for his part that set off the tragic events
>> Kelnacca attacking Torbin, scratching his face is a huge taboo in Wookie culture, it's called going "mad claw" even though he wasn't in control of himself, he still blames himself and so exiled himself.
*** Aniseya's Coven so far seems to have NO link to "the Sith" ***
Loved the reference to the Hyperspace disaster. The event that kicked off this whole era of content.
Yes and give a good reason, why the Jedi where there.
Love watching you and your dad's reactions it's so cool you can share the SW luv😁👍 I think mother Aniseya going smoke and taking Mae with her was just her trying to get her daughter safely out of harm's way since Torbin and mother Korril were about to throw down. After Sol killed her partner and disabled her staff mother Korril used it to flee for her own safety too. Indara was the most level headed of them all. Torbin was impulsive and petulant but he does come across as very young there. Sol seemed hotheaded and blinded by his own desire to have a padawan to raise and shape. I feel like Sol was most culpable however as he broke into their home twice. Everything that happened after their second home invasion could be seen as defending your home, family and children and I'd go mama bear too if that was my home. The really disappointing part though was lying by omission to Osha. Yes Mae DID start the fire and yes everyone WAS lost but these things weren't linked the way Sol implied. It was a cop out and I wonder how or if Sol will be redeemed with only 1 episode to go. ✌️😄#istilllovestarwars
I just realized Torbin is Tommen Baratheon.
Acolyte all-flashback episode 7 was very good.
I liked the references to the hyperspace catastrophe that wiped out life on some planets; of which in the last episode Jedi master Vernestra has pain/nausea from traveling through hyperspace due to her strong connection to the force.
The fact that Sol was an emotional Jedi like Dooku, Anakin and Quigon Jinn was seen in quite a big way.
The turn of the plot, who is responsible for the death of the entire Clan of these Witches who follow the path of Bogan = Darkness in magic, they were quite similar to the Witches of the Sisterhood of the Night from Dathomir, where Darth Maul also comes from.
The fights were great, the choreography was great and seeing two Jedi fight against a possessed Wookie Jedi was great.
But most of all, normally, just like Mother Cora, I felt this emotional pain in my heart. When Sol killed her partner, co-mother of two children and the love of her life, mother Aniseya, in front of her eyes.
The destruction reminded me of something similar to when the Jedi destroyed the entire planet of Korriban, where the original Sith race came from.
In the scene with Aniseya's mother, when Mae was asking for help, we had the opportunity to see some kind of magic where Anaseya was spitting and it also affected Mae. Do you think she was trying to teleport Osha.????
I see you with the Stephen Wright reference, Major Dad! ❤️🤣
Man we are getting spoiled with EXTRA MAJOR DAD!!
Also, I knew it, the Jedi are the real villains!! Lol
Nah, just Sol
Vergance, for those who forgot, is how qui gonn referred to anakin in phantom menace.
What I loved the most about episodes 3 and 7 is how they show neither the Jedi nor the witches were innocent, and that like sadly too many real life conflicts it was born out of prejudices and misunderstandings.
I appreciate the fact that this episode was a story in which the parental figures ALL did the wrong things, both the Witches and Jedi had a hand in the witches' demise. I wonder if that'll be Mae's and Oshia's takeaway when they realize what happened--Osha might come to a different conclusion, as I think the exercise she's partaking in now will allow her to tap into her memories on the Jedi ship lying unconscious; helping her to hear the Jedi arguing about their role in all this--Osha will be getting a very one-sided story that makes the Jedi look like they were the only ones who screwed things up.
While this story makes it look like Sol was projecting his own feelings on Torbin and Osha, that's not how this story started. More importantly, we already saw the story from Osha's point of view, and her entire family disregarded her wishes.
Why was Osha outside of the fortress practicing her Force abilities? Was she doing so because her connection to the Force was weak since she was a child? The first episode showed us that she had no Force abilities. The third episode showed us that Osha could use the Force. We saw her playing with a bird under the Bunta tree, but was she really playing with it or was she trying to do more through the Force? When Mae interrupted her, Mae did the same thing Osha was doing, but with more control, and Osha snapped at her. She didn't just snap, she expressed how she wanted to be somewhere else, away from Mae and her coven, and how she wanted to be something else. When Osha hid behind Mae for protection, what did Mother Koril do? She snapped at Osha, telling her how she expected better from her.
Osha was living in her sister's shadow and she had an overbearing mother pushing her more than she could stand to be pushed. Inside, Osha was crying for help and no one was listening. No one, except for Sol. For whatever reason, Osha's connection to the Force is wonky, despite her high sensitivity to it. She knew what Mae knew and Mae knew what the other witches knew because she was being groomed to be their future leader. If Mother Aniseya and Koril could use the Force to get into the minds of others, should Mae and Osha have that ability too? Did Osha inadvertently reach out to the Jedi, Sol, when she wanted to get away from her family? Sol could feel the girls in danger, but the other Jedi couldn't. In the same way, the Emperor couldn't feel Luke reaching out to Vader through the Force. What if Osha inadvertently reached out to Sol? Maybe deep down he did want a padawan, and Osaha wanted to be something her sister and family weren't, and that's a Jedi.
When Osha told Qimir that her master was powerful in the Force and that he would find her. He corrected her and told her that that power she spoke of was her power, not Sols. I think this is another clue that Sol has always been able to find Osha through the Force because Osha, unbeknownst to her is calling out to him.
What would have happened if Mother Aniseya didn't violate Torbin's mind? She turned his fears against him. He already wanted to go home, and she created a new fear, witches! Why did she do that? Was she hoping her actions would make the Jedi leave? She seemed to know more about the Jedi than we got to see, but surely she didn't believe that scaring a padawan was going to make the witches' case any better.
Mother Koril was tired of running, she wanted to fight and keep her home. We know that this coven was on the run until they found Brendok and that they were hunted down. Probably not by Jedi, but by those using the Republic's laws to kill them legally. That didn't matter, as we already know from the third story that the Jedi had a hand to play in taking the Force away from every Force user in the galaxy that wasn't Jedi and the Senate helped them do it. So the witches, probably like every other Force user in the galaxy, have a natural disdain towards Jedi. Couple that with the Jedi breaking into their home and hinting a taking your children from you, I can see why she took up a defensive position when the Jedi stepped towards her.
Torbin drawing and igniting his lightsaber was also justified given what Mother Aniseya did to him earlier. He wasn't going to wait and see what might happen this time. Surely, Torbin told the other masters what happened to him at the coven, so when Mother Aniseya turned into black mist and started drawing Mae into her, it was easy to understand why Sol did what he did--Mae looked afraid as it was happening. This story mentioned the Nightsisters to tell us that they were active before the prequels too, which makes sense given that Sidious was already in league with them before the Phantom Menace. The Nightsisters have been a problem for centuries it seems, so it is no wonder how things quickly spiraled out of control when they did.
Sol went to the coven with noble intentions, to help a girl crying out to him through the Force--this episode showed him one time reaching out through the Force to locate them. Mother Aniseya said that she was going to let Osha go because that was what she wanted, but she didn't make that clear to the Jedi. Mother Koril was preparing to strike the Jedi and Mother Aniseya was turning into a black mist drawing Mae into her while the other witches were keeping their weapons trained on Torbin and Sol. A sneeze would have been enough to make either side make the first move.
Had both sides been more level-headed, I think this all could have been avoided, but Mother Koril likely would haven't made it happen. She didn't want her daughters going with the Jedi. Speaking of Mother Koril, I'm not so sure that she is dead. Will we be seeing her next week? Someone sent Osha the Force vision of Mae, it it doesn't seem like it was Qimir who did it!
This was a good episode. I can't wait to see how this gets wrapped up!
You don't think that the fortress has collapsed.
Due to the fact that the fire damaged the electronics and its gradual overloading and short-circuiting then caused the reactor explosion.
And the oil burned similarly to the Olympic fire, which in reality burns like this even on a stone.?
Ironically, my faith in the high council was redeemed this episode LOL.
Great video keep it up.
If it helps! ❤️
Tenebrous = “Ten Eh Brus”
Mae didn't say what her mother told her correctly. Her mother said something in the lines of
"Ascension is about walking through fear. It is about sacrificing a part of yourself for the greater good"
The Jedi shouldn't be getting their facts from a 9 yr old because they may, and in this case did, misspeak about what her mother told her.
People that are trying to say that this is Jedi looking bad have to remember that the Council made the decision to not take the girls, it was the decision of Torbin and Sol.
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Sol is a creepy child kidnapper, and if people had just listened to Indara then none of this would have happened. Anisaya's black cloud trick was a teleportation thing. She just wanted to get Mae to safety.
We got most of the answers we needed. There are some things that one can over explain especially when it comes to fantasy. The finale really needs to be at least an hour regardless
its 43 minutes and titled 'Doom'
Personally, I really enjoy the show and your commentary. Thank you for being balanced with your reviews.
Indara didn’t trust Sol on the test so she checked that the planet was there.
Life to a lifeless planet..... Isnt this the plot of Star Trek 3? The Genesis device.
"You told the truth up to a point, but a lie of omission is still a lie." - Jean-Luc Picard
This is pretty much my favorite star wars show now. NUANCE. SO MUCH GRAY. It's like 90s star trek up in here.
That’s insulting 90s trek
@@mathewluby9896 SERIOUSLY! Like.. what. the actual. hell.
Ehhh. I guess ya like what ya like. It’s been OKAY at best in my book all controversy aside.
"It was invasive by mother Aniseya" taking over Torbin's mind.
The Jedi broke into their home which is also invasive.
Never said it wasn’t 🤷🏻♂️
It's always a pleasure to hear both of us to analysis the story. 😊
Sol gone and f'd up!
Yeah he did.
How was he supposed to know, you dum dums? She turned into a giant smoke monster.
When do you plan to start House of the Dragon?
Similar symbiote so they are clones?
Kinda? Just maybe not in the same ways as the clones we're familiar with as the Jedi posit that the girls were created by splitting one consciousness into two bodies
Did Inara kill all the Witches? How? Was it a mistake to help Kelnacca or her intent?
Were they even dead or just unconscious? Did they die eventually in the fire or did they survive?
@Ehterlink I think the caption describes them as "falling over lifelessly " that coupled with Indara's devastated facial expression leads me to believe she unintentionally killed the coven
@@zten9092 most likely 😰😱😥😓😣😔.
Looking for a divergence….. using metal detectors. How does a hyperspace accident make a planet inhabitable?
This is a universe where using every day objects as props is celebrated. In TESB, a guy used an ice cream maker as a data core. In Andor they used a Polaroid camera as a navigation device.
The Great Hyperspace disaster was the inciting incident for the series of High Republic books and comics. A cargo ship traveling through Hyperspace broke apart. The resulting debris exited Hyperspace at light speed and devastated multiple systems and planets.
Same way an asteroid collision killed the Dinosaurs. Read the High Republic books and it shows what happened. Great series.
Oh and it's a Vergence. Easy mistake to make.
2 ships collided at lightspeed and send debris all through the galaxy
This was a really beautiful, tragic episode. I have been very impressed with Koganada’s work in this series. His shot comp and lighting and such, it’s been really good. Master Indara was awesome in this ep, I think. Sol did basically everything wrong back then, but it just makes me appreciate his character even more. Give me ALL the flawed characters and their arcs and journeys.
I really like The Acolyte. Great story and I'm very curious for the next episode
Mae only intended to light the book on fire, but the flask with oil caught fire and it got out of control.
Bricks
@@mathewluby9896 electrical wires
Funny that the only serious thing against the witches was the "sacrifice" talk, and actually that was a misunderstanding from may, Mother Aniseya did say something about sacrifice in episode 3 but not like that.... Good reaction as always.... Keep rocking and stay safe....
This show was intentional stretched out to prolong its calendar run. They wanted to get more than 1 month of sub time out of it. Ep1+2 = Ep1, Ep3+7 = Ep2, Ep4+5 = Ep3 and I'm going to assume Ep6+8 = Ep4. This is my biggest issue with this show. The episodes aren't satisfying because they were not originally conceived to be chopped up like they are. Especially considering we end up waiting a week for the story to spin its wheels and not really progress. Take Sol and Mae last episode. Nothing of relevance actually progressed. What little you do get, going from Sol not knowing it's Osha to knowing it's Osha, cannot justify an entire episode. This newest episode was just badly written. Period. This is not my opinion, but objective fact. First, Sol is given no reason to think they girls are in danger. He is given no reason to have any attachment to Osha. Torbin had the data from their blood and the council would have recalled them if the results proved there was a vergence. Going to the coven and confronting the witches was completely unnecessary as they already had the proof. The idea that a Padawan would openly disobey their master like that... no, there is no way. Both Torbin and Sol are to emotional and irrational to be taken seriously as Jedi trained since toddlers. It was lazy writing. Again, they string us along for 7 episode for that? Ep3 and 7 should have just been one episode earlier on.
Things got complicated this episode. I think both sides made mistakes, and I like that we get more grey area situations in Star Wars. Makes it way more interesting and realistic.
And I’m sorry. The m-count phrase was coined during and post-empire. Qui Gon said midichlorians. Those Jedi predating him would’ve said midichlorians
True. We don't say that word anymore. :)
Huh, interesting. Says who?
@@KatSonny hey Sonny! Up to this point it was only referenced by the imperials. Chronologically, first by the imperial scientist Hemlock in bad batch, and then in mandalorian by Moff Gideon (unless something is in some comics or books I haven’t read).
If you think about how close to the chest palpatine kept these projects, it makes sense that they would use a code word for their work.
The Jedi, on the other hand, had no reason give midichlorians a code word, especially considering how loose with the term they were in the phantom menace. So then… why would the Jedi prior to them be saying m-count?
@@thesithchef8760 Because it's fewer syllables?
@@WarlordPaynelll while funny…. They wouldn’t be that lazy in high republic and then go BACK to saying the full word in the phantom menace. IJS. They just wrote it like that to try and trigger some connection in viewers to mandalorian
What I’m getting from this show so far is, all this shite went down, because Sol assumed they were in danger, and can’t control his emotions.
I actually really liked this episode. Probably my second favourite of the season.
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I liked that Sol is absolutely an aggressor here but at the same time that line from Mae about how happy she is to 'be a sacrifice' was really, really dark. The witches becoming enraged at the Mother for allowing Osha to leave because clearly the twins are meant for their own survival in some kind of ritual. Sacrificing the girls for some dark side ritual in the force. So Sol gets desperate and strangely attached and it makes a bit more sense. It makes a bit more sense why the level headed one Endara (Indara?) starts to become curious as well. I think the Mother originally intended to use the girls as the rest of the tribe did but she actually fell in love with them like a real Mother and defected. She had dark intentions at the start but love changed her mind. And now in present time we see Sol turning off his locator and doing his own thing again. Dude really hasn't learned anything in all those years.
The girls weren't meant to be sacrificed. Mae misremembered what Mother Aniseya said, which was "we must sacrifice a part of ourselves"
@@M0ldyBr3ad55 The girls are also a part of a 'whole' person. They're a split. The witches refusal to let them go was an obvious hint that they were using them for something and if the girls left - whatever they were plotting - they'd be unable to fulfill. They 'created' the girls through some dark side force magic and they created them for a reason. It came across that the 'Mother' actually fell for them and it changed her outlook.
We see the Jedi Mind Trick all the time and we cheer it on, but when the witches do it, suddenly it's invasive?
I love how this show challenges the audience just as much as its characters.
We said the same thing about the Jedi in an earlier reaction 🙂
Actually on this show, Yord and Sol did it before and they made it seem like invasive, so it's the same, a more mature/real way to appreciate things, but can be something else to hate about the series
Acolyte all-flashback episode 7 was very good.
I liked the references to the hyperspace catastrophe that wiped out life on some planets; of which in the last episode Jedi master Vernestra has pain/nausea from traveling through hyperspace due to her strong connection to the force.
The fact that Sol was an emotional Jedi like Dooku, Anakin and Quigon Jinn was seen in quite a big way.
The turn of the plot, who is responsible for the death of the entire Clan of these Witches who follow the path of Bogan = Darkness in magic, they were quite similar to the Witches of the Sisterhood of the Night from Dathomir, where Darth Maul also comes from.
The fights were great, the choreography was great and seeing two Jedi fight against a possessed Wookie Jedi was great.
But most of all, normally, just like Mother Cora, I felt this emotional pain in my heart. When Sol killed her partner, co-mother of two children and the love of her life, mother Aniseya, in front of her eyes.
The destruction reminded me of something similar to when the Jedi destroyed the entire planet of Korriban, where the original Sith race came from.@@KatSonny
@@KatSonnyIn the scene with Aniseya's mother, when Mae was asking for help, we had the opportunity to see some kind of magic where Anaseya was spitting and it also affected Mae. Do you think she was trying to teleport Osha.????
@@KatSonnyYou don't think that the fortress has collapsed.
Due to the fact that the fire damaged the electronics and its gradual overloading and short-circuiting then caused the reactor explosion.
And the oil burned similarly to the Olympic fire, which in reality burns like this even on a stone.?
Jedi enter people's minds all the time. This was an invasion of a people's home and she wanted them gone.
The way you're saying it is like it was Aniseya's fault and not the Jedi that literally broke into their compound to steal their children.
In this case the victims are the witches, not the Jedi.
We literally talk about how we understand the witches and their reaction to the Jedi because they just broke in. And in an earlier reaction to this show we talk about how mind tricks and reading peoples minds is in reality quite invasive. Doesn’t change that we also thought Aniseya entering Torbins mind was pretty invasive. I’m not quite sure you’re actually listening to what we’re saying, both during the reaction but also in the discussion afterwards.
Torn on this one. Very unjedilike behavior from the team. Torbin was acting like a spoiled kid, not someone who had been training to be a Jedi. The action was good but the writing on this episode was pretty weak. Just my opinion.
So why did he drink the poison? What exactly did the Jedi do wrong? This episode used half the same footage from episode 3. No new revelations in this one. I struggle to see where $180,000,000 went to be honest
I'm 100% with you on where that money went. I mean, I can't figure it out. It literally doesn't seem possible that it cost this much. Many, many beautiful Hollywood movies with tons of CGI and A list actors somehow cost way less than this. It makes absolutely no sense and if I were Disney I'd be doing some sort of massive audit or something. 🤷🏻♀
The problem with Sols intentions is that his sudden infatuation with the twins makes no sense. It's either creepy or there is something emotionally wrong with Sol.
I think it's been pretty obvious Sol has emotional issues.
Emotional instability seems to be a trait for many of the Jedi and Sith.
That and the fact the Jedi hold themselves up as being better than everyone else.
The "no attachments" thing was a real bug in the Jedi software.
Jedi's are the worst, I'm glad their teachings are gone. Dark side is the right side.
'But you're children..how can you become the leaders?' - that might be the dumbest piece of writing I've ever heard. Does she understand that children....grow up?
It’s not stupid decisions, it’s bad writing. Christ
Really, you people are still pretending...why?
Why are you watching a reaction to a show you don't care for?
I actually liked seeing nuanced and more human Jedi. Foibles, anxiety, attachment in a different way. It was so much better than Anakin throwing 5 year old tantrums and that being the 'dark side'.
Poor racist misogynist
The better question is why are you haters of the show looking reactions of it? Pretty dumb use of your time
Witches abd Jedi not on the same page even within their own groups