Making Serious Power on Retro 5.0 With a Trick Flow 11R Top End Kit

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @ChuckThree
    @ChuckThree 6 месяцев назад +9

    Very interesting retro throw back. Appreciated the 80s vibes in editing.

  • @bruceferre6232
    @bruceferre6232 4 месяца назад +5

    Hey this video hits a little home for me! I have a 1991 fox with trickflow heads, b cam and a Holley systemax kit on it. It also has a Paxton supercharger so it’s definitely old school. It’s bbk headers to catless x-pipe and flow master muffs. I’m getting it tuned with a quarter horse as we speak and should be on the road soon! Awesome video!!!

  • @themrfabio2459
    @themrfabio2459 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love the 80s theme editing. Awesome work

  • @passinggear
    @passinggear 6 месяцев назад +4

    You had me with that sport coat....!

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      You can't really see it, but I'm wearing the matching pants, too! No boat shoes, though. LOL

  • @xmo552
    @xmo552 6 месяцев назад +4

    I still love love LOVE my little sbf 302.

  • @Bacongrease00
    @Bacongrease00 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great video! E7 heads choke so bad. Now you got that air moving!

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +3

      Gotta love those little 127cc intake ports!

  • @troycarter4742
    @troycarter4742 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great to see some retro 5.0 Fox content. The article was a nice detailed read too.

  • @yonson_racing
    @yonson_racing 7 месяцев назад +2

    Impressive results Donut! Keep up the good work!

  • @adambergendorff2702
    @adambergendorff2702 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good video! Short and to the point, I also liked seeing those stock heads go in the dumpster!

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +2

      It was hard, since our hoarder tendencies are to keep them on a shelf for 20 years, just in case...

  • @Rocksoup77
    @Rocksoup77 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have this exact kit ready to go on 92' mustang convertible. Motor has 100k and runs great. I may freshen bottom end up when I do HCI install just to get the most out of it. These numbers are impressive to say the least. I have the TFS track heat intake instead of the holley like you have. The holleys are tough to beat. Great videos and content! Look forward to more.

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      We were all super pleased with the top end kit. To the point, that we almost called it done right there. That will be a fun combo in the car, for sure!

  • @msk3905
    @msk3905 3 месяца назад +2

    Stout numbers but I would have run a comp XE274HR cam in that combo

  • @TheHortond
    @TheHortond 7 месяцев назад +4

    The internet wasn't even a thing when my Mustang was built.

    • @MrAnthonyfym
      @MrAnthonyfym 6 месяцев назад +3

      We has to read magazines and believe what the summit catalog claimed

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      Aren't you glad it is now, though?

  • @leroybrown7494
    @leroybrown7494 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video series 👍🏼 I bet a bigger cam it would have easily made over 420 , my ls engine makes great power i just wish i could get it to sound like a basic cammed sbf

  • @sorshiaemms5959
    @sorshiaemms5959 28 дней назад

    Carbs still work good

  • @aaronliddell4280
    @aaronliddell4280 5 месяцев назад +2

    Where did it make peak power? Love the 80’s theme 👍

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  5 месяцев назад +3

      Peak torque was at 4,900 rpm and peak HP was at 5,800 rpm.

  • @kevininge1219
    @kevininge1219 6 месяцев назад +2

    Down t watch ready t see what it makes. You should run different cams ford e b f and a small solid roller something from Howard's right out the catalog old school. Like to see what different injectors would do factory fox 19s vs newer explorer 4 hole 19s 24s on up. Kenne bell would be awesome to hear. Procharger ps14 d1 hell yeah badasst automobile ever made. Keep the noise up put in a car and let us see it run. I have these heads 11r 190s cnc street. 30over matching # shortblock. But still lookn em in their boxes working my way to it

  • @Jim_Lawrence
    @Jim_Lawrence 6 месяцев назад +2

    Long Tubes! Add power everywhere...

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +2

      They're coming, but we put those shorties through the wringer, first.

    • @msk3905
      @msk3905 3 месяца назад +1

      Yup made a significant difference when i swapped them in place of my FMS shorties! I ran the old Twisted Wedge heads and would have loved to run these 11rs if available

  • @crazyhorseracing6130
    @crazyhorseracing6130 6 месяцев назад +2

    What size injectors are you using? Thanks for the videos!!

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      These are Deatschwerks 78 lb/hr injectors.

  • @kermieplaud1162
    @kermieplaud1162 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice!!!

  • @pimpovic2
    @pimpovic2 6 месяцев назад +2

    That's about 350whp, that's not bad on a Stage 1 cam.

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 6 месяцев назад +1

      and they'll break 450 with that blower.....be cool if they did the kenne belle 2.1 with 10PSI and these heads....

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +3

      @@KingJT80 If we could have found an old Kenne Bell, we might have tried it!

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@EngineLabs I think they started selling them again.

  • @justinkostelecky6201
    @justinkostelecky6201 5 месяцев назад +2

    What size were the intake runners on those 11R’s?

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  5 месяцев назад +2

      170cc. They are the small version.

  • @fatheadmeetoo2891
    @fatheadmeetoo2891 Месяц назад

    I might pull the trigger!

  • @QuikModsOBS
    @QuikModsOBS 6 месяцев назад +1

    Are these the best option to squeeze the most out of sbe 302? Or are there better option top end package wise

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +4

      "Best" is such a loaded term. But the 11R top end certainly works as advertised, and then some. I think with a larger cam, the engine would wake up some as well, but with the stock bottom end, PTV clearance might be an issue with a larger cam. I'd definitely be happy with just this N/A package in my SN-95, no doubt.

  • @Carcrafter7165
    @Carcrafter7165 6 месяцев назад +1

    How high did you rev to on the rpm on the 5.0
    I love it like it is N/A.

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      We spun it to 6,500 rpm with the Trick Flow cam and heads.

  • @robaxelsson530
    @robaxelsson530 6 месяцев назад +1

    What ECU / System is this ? Speed density? I didn’t see a MAF sensor on that intake

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's the Holley Terminator X Fox Body plug-n-play.

  • @michaelmayer8618
    @michaelmayer8618 Месяц назад

    You probably down a little horsepower from what they advertise bc you're running a full accessory drive which im sure they didn't n the torque is higher bc of the longer intake runners

  • @jarez3781
    @jarez3781 5 месяцев назад +1

    What size of headers did you use? And what brand?

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  5 месяцев назад +2

      I should have mentioned that. They are 1-5/8-inch JBA shorties.

  • @johnnymula2305
    @johnnymula2305 2 месяца назад

    I have a 5.0 roller. I have the twisted wedge 11r top end kit. With a 347 stroker, 750cfm carb.
    What do you think i would be looking at as far as power?
    Its going in my 86 Bronco.
    Its backed by a Len Tech AOD trans.

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  2 месяца назад +1

      At what compression ratio? Also, in a Bronco with an AOD, I'd guess you probably won't be spinning it nearly as hard.

    • @johnnymula2305
      @johnnymula2305 2 месяца назад

      @@EngineLabs compression is 10:1
      Im in AZ. The summers get ridiculously hot. So i didnt want to struggle with detonation issues.
      Im not planning on racing it. I’ll pretty much be in the 1500-3500 rpm range 99% of the time.

  • @CCWFOX
    @CCWFOX 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do the pistons need to notch to run these heads

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  5 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not sure, because we are using an aftermarket piston. Since the Stage-1 cam is small, there is a chance everything will clear with a stock piston.

  • @cgip1220
    @cgip1220 6 месяцев назад +1

    What trick flow head and cam can I use with stock 302 pistons

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      There's too many variables to say with certainty. You'll have to measure piston-to-valve to be sure, no matter what.

    • @arkhsm
      @arkhsm 4 месяца назад

      Give them a call, I'm sure Trick Flow could tell you !!

  • @maga7579
    @maga7579 5 месяцев назад +1

    What cam?

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  5 месяцев назад +2

      Trick Flow Stage 1

  • @cgip1220
    @cgip1220 6 месяцев назад

    did you change pistons? doesn't have same 4 eyebrow

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      We did. We went to a stock-bore forged 2618 piston right off the bat to handle the boost that's coming, and had valve reliefs to work with the 11R heads.

  • @AC-bl1rl
    @AC-bl1rl 6 месяцев назад +1

    roller rockers?

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 6 месяцев назад +1

      gotta have em on these heads. i dont even think they have a pedestal mount version...could be wrong. im looking at them for next yr

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +2

      @@KingJT80 I'm 99% sure they are only available with 7/16 studs. I've gotten spoiled by pedestal mount valvetrain.

  • @user-fm5wq5wm7x
    @user-fm5wq5wm7x 6 месяцев назад

    Could you put a spacer underneath the intake to break 400 hp ???

    • @KingJT80
      @KingJT80 6 месяцев назад +1

      it made 411...the kit claims 432 with the carb....not bad...

    • @adamrushka8096
      @adamrushka8096 6 месяцев назад +1

      Adding even more runner length would just make more low end.

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      There was a spacer of sorts (it was a capped-off nitrous plate) between the upper and lower intakes to clear the fuel rails.

  • @Bacongrease00
    @Bacongrease00 6 месяцев назад +1

    It’s gonna make 520-560hp on the vortech

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +2

      You might be surprised... 😁

    • @Bacongrease00
      @Bacongrease00 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@EngineLabs what pulley size

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bacongrease00 just as it comes out of the box - 3.33 inches.

  • @davidkuhn3970
    @davidkuhn3970 6 месяцев назад

    I’ll never understand why so many people put heads on the block when it’s on a 45 degree angle. The engine stand rotates people.

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +9

      Ummm, that's a dyno cart, not an engine stand. It doesn't rotate.

    • @HerrPoopschitz
      @HerrPoopschitz 6 месяцев назад

      😂didn’t know this was a ‘problem’

    • @davidkuhn3970
      @davidkuhn3970 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@HerrPoopschitz I seen too many times people just about drop the heads.

  • @darinr9424
    @darinr9424 6 месяцев назад +1

    Meh

    • @EngineLabs
      @EngineLabs  6 месяцев назад +5

      Glad you enjoyed the video.