@jeniferclemente1252 When I realized that he was also Mulgarath, I flipped out. He did great in Spiderwick. Both through on-screen acting, and also voice acting.😊
@@jonathanjohnson9611 Parents are legally required to send you to be indoctrinated K-12, the least you could do is imply you won't send all your elders to the abusin homes. Right? At least you could imply it once... so they can pretend to have peace of mind for just a second.
@@jonathanjohnson9611the idea that you seem to think that wrong is sickening. just abandon the people who raised you when you don’t need them anymore, right? and the OP thought this scene exemplified narcissism. all they really had to do was wait for you to respond 🤮
@@InsanitysApex They decide to have kids it's their duty to take care of them. None of us asked to be here....Stop acting like them sending us to school is some daunting task...
@@AvxrysPigPlushie "None of us asked to be here" Which is how we can be certain you "live" in a way that isn't concerned with staying here. "Stop acting like them sending us to school is some daunting task" For parents who love their children sending their beloved sweetlings to be raised by strangers of the state it is. But you're right; sending children who turned out like you (resentful and ungrateful) away to be subtly tortured and raised by strangers of the state was a blessing. Do they miss u? But your surrogate torturers failed you, weakling child, and raised you even weaker and dumber than the state intended (for all it's incompetence, corruption, and bureaucracy). So now I, maddest bastard on the net, must crush your weak, innocent, propagandized spirit to concretize just how broken the system is, and all it's weakling children are. Stop pretending your parents could have saved you from yourself. Not even I could save you if I wanted. Only you can prevent forest fires (and nihilism of your soul). "None of us asked to be here" And what if nobody else likes the way in which you're being here? You gonna pout and drag existence down with your existential crisis... til ya die? Life is not a choice, but living is. Life is worth all this. Are you? yo daddy, the night you were conceived, whispering to yo momma's gash 2:13
Don't use the Lord's name in vain, there is more then one war going on, crime is in the rise more then ever, weather conditions in LA and in unusual places, volcanos, the ephrates river is dried up, these are the signs of Jesus is coming, please reach out to him, he is using me to reach out to you God bless Jesus loves you to
@@Arkangel.98You’re one of those people who thinks that the 3rd Commandment means that you can’t say, “oh my god” or “Jesus Christ”. What “Thou Shalt Not Take The Lord’s Name In Vain” means is that you shouldn’t LIE using his name. For example, don’t say things about what your god is going to do, because you don’t know what his plan is, and you’d be lying using his name. The “no swearing” thing was a modern American addition. So, for Christ’s sake, stop saying things about your god in his name that you don’t understand. He might take it personally.
@@Cyberleader672 But the whole premise of the Hulk is THAT HE'S NOT A RAMPAGING MONSTER! It's funny how many so called Hulk fans that slam this movie haven't actually read any Hulk comics. The Green Hulk's nickname is called "the Child". He is literally Bruce's repressed, frightened, angry and hurt inner child that he's buried deep due to trauma. No other depiction has nailed this aspect better than Ang Lee's film.
1:30 "its my mother, and I dont even know her name" he starts breaking down and his dad... just looks annoyed at him. He gives him a half assed "just let it out son" but you know he's not talking about his feelings he's taking about Hulk. David considers hulk his son not Bruce, he dehumanizes Bruce to a degree its disgusting and even disturbing a Dad would see/ do this type of thing to his son.
To this day this adaption is still the best rendition of The Incredible Hulk. Perfectly captured the inner turmoil and struggle in his mind Bruce Banner faces
I love the dynamic duo of this father & son relationship: Bruce turning into the Hulk is basically the Frankenstein and his father is the mad scientist that created it!
I really want a proper God Loves Man Kills adaptation because it would be very gutsy to have William Stryker be the Reverend and not some Military nut. For once bring up religion as a villain and not a good thing.
And this was even further away from modern marvel than spider-man. They’d never allow a superhero movie like this to be made now under marvel studios and the mcu.
It's how trauma works in real life. Bruce banner it's just a "fake self", a shell that protects his "inner child" his real Ego that split off because of trauma , and that later becomes the HULK. That's why he remembers his mother. He "became the hulk" and got his repressed memories back. In real life, with people with this kind of disturbs (sociopaths, borderline, histrionic, narcisist (like banner)) are "fake". Their are really just "shells" for their still child/destructive personality. Hulk , in the comics, is treated like a child, and people constantly remind banner to treat him right, because he is the real one of the two , and he his just a lashing out angry child missing his mother.
@@independentthinker5105 U KAN STiLL STAY TOGETHER iF U WANT BUT GET THAT DiVORCE FROM NOW MAN, iT AiN'T LOOKiN WELL ! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@@WolframtheBlessed3499 oh no, Nick Nolte didn't hurt anybody, he learnt his lesson of not driving under the influence and we got tons of funny jokes about his look with that hawaiian shirt
Nolte should have gotten a supporting actor Golden Globe and an Oscar for his performance in this movie. The dialogues are superb and similar to poetry.
Happy to hear anything about how much like the comics it may or may not have been. But this was BY FAR my favorite Bruce Banner. Because you could always feel it inside him no matter the scene, you could always feel the forrest fire inside him just waiting for the smallest little ember. And it made this movie so uniquely intense.
He is Nick Nolte bro, he's been doing this since even your dad was born. He is a very great actor! He is friends with Eddie Murphy in 24 Hrs and kicked Robert de Niro's ass in Cape Fear.
I personally think it worked better in Scott Pilgrim and Into/Across The Spider-Verse cuz they were self aware and light hearted unlike this film which tries to be a very mature drama making the comic panel style stand out like a sore thumb
Ironically this doesn't have the signature comic book editing the whole movie had. This is just a raw conversation between a damaged son and his indifferent dad.
@@jonathanjohnson9611there's not a forced joke every 2 minutes, thumbs down. Seriously though this movie and the Edward Norton written 2008 movie are so good. 2 of my favorite movies
There are lots of recent articles from critics realizing this movie was unfairly trashed back in the day just for giving depth and restraint when people wanted a dumb summer movie.
4:19 I just noticed how Bruce's scream is mixed with Hulk's volume, showing that it's both Hulk and Bruce sharing their hatred towards the dad. ((EDIT Now I understand it's actually not Bruce holding back, it's David absorbing his power by getting close to him, and Bruce just gets more angry to where David needed to sit down and do that 'YEEAUUGH' to burn it off. This is literally a parent-child argument being portrayed )) When Hulk first got angry at him, Bruce still didn't know him at that point. The whole final battle was supposed to be Bruce and Hulk working together, and that's why he was able to speak and give away his powers at the moment. Bruce is being in full control of his body now that he knows his anger, after having scenes like "Puny Human" earlier, to show that they couldn't see eye to eye until he understood the reason why (bars).
I did get that Green Goblin feel going on with David, of course there being differences in their demeanour towards their respective sons in particular.
@@stephrey8297 Idk if they would. MCU Savage Hulk didn't play well with others(at first). Bana Hulk would be fighting Tobey Spidey, who never fought something of that level in his movies(Venom couldve been that, but wasn't).
David could destroy the world if he wanted to, and Bruce/Hulk is the only one that could stop him.. As for Norman, well, he needs to make a suit that can tank a glider first, lol
@hob_channel He didn't shout "no" he shouted "Go!" As in Go, Leave, GTFO of my face. David was just being a rambling madman with a God complex. I would've wanted him to leave too if I had to hear all that crap up close.
1:41 when he said it's ok son go ahead and cry when Bruce started crying for his mum if I was standing there I would have totally let Bruce out of those chains just so that he can go his father after he said just go ahead and cry like he didn't care that his son is crying cause he misses his mother
He chose his work and research instead of giving me the love and attention all kids deserve and because of his neglect I'm cursed with severe anger and emotional distress!!
Sir Nick Nolte should have won an oscar for this scene. This is the best performance since Michael Caine's ether huffing abortionist in the Cider House Rules.
The hate on this movie makes no sense. Like every movie made around this time gets called trash cuz of CGI. Like wtf do u expect. This is when it was really getting popular
I love that it's the only Hulk film so far to show that his size increases with his anger. That's an idea that the MCU dropped altogether. Also... Jennifer Connelly. Yowza.
I wonder if this part was intentionally made to look like a stage play. The lighting, the staging, and the performances in this scene very much feel like something youd see in a filmed version of a play. Given the rest of the films efforts to be different and experimental, I wouldnt be shocked if that was the intention.
@jsl8461 Very astute observations and a well thought out comment. You compliment the original poster's point about the stage play elements, which I had not thought about until I happened upon this thread.
I wouldn’t call it a masterpiece, but I do agree this film is far too underrated. If you view it as a drama rather than a “Marvel Movie” it comes off way better.
I can not believe he called his son a little speck of human trash what kind of father is he seriously if my father said that to me I would be shocked for weeks
@@cameronagha1449 DAMN RIGHT. Bruce's so called, "dad" He only see's his son as a Source of Power He can use to Grow Stronger. ALL david cares about is Power and will do anything to get it. and he also wants to display his power to the world which he shows here as he clearly states he plans to DESTROY Army's and government's and anthem's and Flag's and ENTIRE Nation's. He's Talking about mass murdering Most likely hundreds of millions, Maybe even BILLIONS of Innocent Live's. David is a DAMN Monster and A TOTAL PSYCHOPATH.
that type of father that is prepared to murder his son with a kitchen knife and call it "mercy". The type of father that beats and murders his wife in front of his own son. Not exactly father of the year. Also he's been in prison for 30 years...now he has superpowers. He is totally unhinged at this point.
Creo que este film es infravalorado. Este diálogo es bastante bueno ya que no solo son dos hombres marcados por una herencia y una relación que ninguno de los dos cosas quiso, pero comparten un mismo destino. El discurso de Nolte contra el sistema es genial
3:20 David kinda has a good point about the army, he did in fact try to find a cure for Bruce decades ago and he tried to kill his own son, but inadvertently killed his own wife. It's sad at the fact the David went insane after the events from when he and Bruce were younger - if Ross hadn't shut down the protocol, he could've found a cure.
It not necessarily true it also david fault for science experiments onto himself pass on to Bruce. David knew the government doesn't want human experiments. So the whole plot is david fault.
@@ChristianFrates1997 “BARKING AND SWALLOWING ORDERS! INFLICTING THEIR PETTY RULE OVER THE GLOBE, THINK OF ALL THE HARM THEY’VE DONE, TO YOU, TO ME! TO HUMANITY! AND KNOW THIS, THAT WE CAN MAKE THEM, AND THEIR FLAGS DISAPPEAR IN A FLASH!”
This movie did a bold choice all those years ago, showing the father of Bruce, showing a good reason why Bruce has so much trauma, and so mentally unstable. Was weird making him into the Absorbing Man, but same time it does make sense that he'd also be a "freak" from experimentation
@@ChristianFrates1997 it's a psychological drama and I appreciate what the film was trying to do. I think ang lee may have over did it with the comic style editing but it is what it is. It's still a great film. People bitch about the cgi have no idea what they're talking about. Most of the shots still hold up to this day and look amazing. Some shots look horrible yes. But they're as bad as most of incredible hulk.
@@ChristianFrates1997 Logan was more of a gritty, Neo-Western, road movie. Ang Lee's Hulk is a psychological, suspense drama and a character study of someone disturbingly effected by blocked out childhood trauma.
0:38 Bruce Banner: I should have killed you Brian Banner: I should have killed you, Bruce Banner: you would have, I saw her last night, I saw her face, brown hair, her beautiful brown eyes, she was smiling at me, she leaned over to give me a kiss, I can almost smell her, like desert flowers. Brian Banner: Her favorite perfume Bruce Banner: was my mother, I don't even know her name.
Edward Norton was the definitive Bruce Banner -- he captured the intellectual rage of Bruce that made him believable as a potential Hulk. Ruffalo completely downplayed and goofed up the character to a ridiculous degree. He was basically just being an aloof Mark Ruffalo as Hulk, whereas Eric Bana and Edward Norton both actually tried to channel the character of Bruce Banner, especially Edward Norton.
I read on the IMDb that David was Bruce Banner’s dad as a tribute to the live action TV SERIES AND MADE FOR TV MOVIES. And Bruce’s Dad’s name in the comics was Brian.
I saw this film last night at our art house theater and I was watching this is what I was literally saying his presence was as creepy as heaths when I first saw The Dark Knight in theaters
It’s funny how people made fun of this film for being boring 15 years later and suddenly people realized it was well written/directed. Where have y’all been for the past 20 years bozos.
Eric Bana does not get enough credit for Petrehn a man who not only has deep-seated angry issues, but I hate enrage so powerful within himself it takes every essence of his being just a hold it back. Which looks painful in itself. Then you have Nick Nolte a phenomenal actor need I not say anything more. Two power houses coming together to create an underrated gym to last for eternity. This is not my favorite whole movie, but at one point in time it is the 2008 Edward Norton‘s home is my absolute favorite. But this is an underrated gem that holds a special valuable place in my heart.
You can complain that Ang Lee did a drama on Hulk, an iconic comic character that smash, that the movie lacks more fights, that Eric Bana isn't the guy for the green monster, that the CGI of Hulk looks like claymation but Universal did Hulk movies unlike Marvel Studios now
This the best hulk movie they made honestly the other ones were good because they had abomination in it but this one was had a better story a better hulk image and it was more about his personal life
I feel like this is a reference to a form of theater I can't get the name of. Where it's a dark stage with two chairs, and the goal is for the actors to display as much raw, genuine emotion as they can.
Because of the careful and grounded way this movie’s approach was executed in, because it feels more palpable, more real, when he says together they could make the nations disappear, you kinda believe it, and it hits you in a kind of unsettling way. In an mcu movie etc when the entire world is being taken over or blowing up you feel no weight to it because it’s all just like a cartoon. You never feel like anything is really at stake or that any people are really in danger even when a whole city is collapsing.
So, Nick Nolte is STILL around. Currently 83 years old. Can you imagine how cool it would be if he reprised 2003 David Banner/Absorbing Man role for the MCU? Still a villain, a result of a multiverse mess, being a threat to Ruffalo Bruce/The Professor, and Bruce would be pissed & reminded of the abuse he went through that created the Hulk persona in the first place. And David would be curious of how Ruffalo Bruce controls the Gamma powers, because his Bana Bruce doesn't do that. I was also gonna say it'd be cool if that young David Banner actor played that character for Ruffalo's Banner, but that actor quit acting.
Is it crazy to think that this film would have been much better received had it arrived in the last 5 years? Considering that X-Men and Spider-Man were the only successful ongoing CBM franchises when this arrived, it's clear why something so different was poorly received by fans and the general audience. I'm not sure the same thing happens if it arrives in recent years.
Sad thing as David actually did love his son at first. But then he became mad with power over genetics and treated bruce as a test tube.Rather than a son, he is no better than a nazi scientist And just as deranged if not worse
In my mind, David Banner is a brilliant representation of when desire and greed overcomes love and empathy. David became so power hungry for the type of power his son had, that eventually he was willing to do anything, even kill his own son, in order to obtain it. And its that difference illustrated brilliantly in this scene that really sets the two men apart, and its that difference that gives Bruce the human dignity that David no longer possesses, and also teaches a brilliant life-lesson: No matter what type of men our fathers may have been, no matter how bad they have been, that we are not them, nor do we have to become them, but we can set our own course, and choose for ourselves who and what we will be as men.
This scene is perfect whatever about the rest of the movie. This scene and the family backstory was the best parts of this movie. Extremely sad I feel like they should lean back into this and what Norton did with his hulk. It would be a huge palate cleanser to see the character's troubles be recognised properly. I would love to see Edward Berger/James Mangold/Darren Aronofsky direct. I'd try to tie Craig Mazin or Frank Darabont to be main writers with a second writer being Steve Lightfoot or David Kagjanich and have Lightfoot producing too. Tina Anderson involved too.
Nick Nolte is INCREDIBLY underrated in this film- without a doubt!
Lmao his mock tantrum was comedy gold
The man also played the Ogre, Mulgarath in human form in The Spiderwick Chronicles film and still terrified me. He’s brilliant.
yeah same with eric bana hes a really talented actor
@jeniferclemente1252 When I realized that he was also Mulgarath, I flipped out.
He did great in Spiderwick.
Both through on-screen acting, and also voice acting.😊
@@Canibar13 yeah, it’s awesome^^
When Nick Nolte mimicked Bruce bawling. I laughed till tears came out of my eyes. Nick Nolte really did owned this role
😂
"GNAAH GNEEHH GNAAH GNAAH!" "Stop your bawling, you weak little speck of human trash." 😆😂🤣
"I gave you life, now you must give it back to me."
That line creeps me out. Absolute narcissism.
Literally all parents when they expect you to take care of them when they're old.
@@jonathanjohnson9611 Parents are legally required to send you to be indoctrinated K-12, the least you could do is imply you won't send all your elders to the abusin homes. Right? At least you could imply it once... so they can pretend to have peace of mind for just a second.
@@jonathanjohnson9611the idea that you seem to think that wrong is sickening. just abandon the people who raised you when you don’t need them anymore, right?
and the OP thought this scene exemplified narcissism. all they really had to do was wait for you to respond 🤮
@@InsanitysApex They decide to have kids it's their duty to take care of them. None of us asked to be here....Stop acting like them sending us to school is some daunting task...
@@AvxrysPigPlushie "None of us asked to be here" Which is how we can be certain you "live" in a way that isn't concerned with staying here.
"Stop acting like them sending us to school is some daunting task" For parents who love their children sending their beloved sweetlings to be raised by strangers of the state it is.
But you're right; sending children who turned out like you (resentful and ungrateful) away to be subtly tortured and raised by strangers of the state was a blessing. Do they miss u?
But your surrogate torturers failed you, weakling child, and raised you even weaker and dumber than the state intended (for all it's incompetence, corruption, and bureaucracy). So now I, maddest bastard on the net, must crush your weak, innocent, propagandized spirit to concretize just how broken the system is, and all it's weakling children are.
Stop pretending your parents could have saved you from yourself. Not even I could save you if I wanted. Only you can prevent forest fires (and nihilism of your soul).
"None of us asked to be here" And what if nobody else likes the way in which you're being here? You gonna pout and drag existence down with your existential crisis... til ya die?
Life is not a choice, but living is.
Life is worth all this.
Are you?
yo daddy, the night you were conceived, whispering to yo momma's gash 2:13
The older this movie gets the more i appreciate it.
Remember. The entertainment industry told us that this was the “era of bad superhero movies”.
@@qthestruggler2715Illuminati puppet actors equal shit. Remember that
Nick Nolte and Eric Bana shined so bright here, I cannot even start to praise them for what they did. Nick above all.
Both of them are equally phenomenal, Nick Nolte for his insane rambling monologues, and Eric Bana for his visceral physical reactions.
4:19 Jesus, what a scream.
Eric Bana puts on a great performance in this film.
Eric .. Bana??
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Don't use the Lord's name in vain, there is more then one war going on, crime is in the rise more then ever, weather conditions in LA and in unusual places, volcanos, the ephrates river is dried up, these are the signs of Jesus is coming, please reach out to him, he is using me to reach out to you God bless Jesus loves you to
@@pigman4084name of the actor
@@Arkangel.98You’re one of those people who thinks that the 3rd Commandment means that you can’t say, “oh my god” or “Jesus Christ”. What “Thou Shalt Not Take The Lord’s Name In Vain” means is that you shouldn’t LIE using his name. For example, don’t say things about what your god is going to do, because you don’t know what his plan is, and you’d be lying using his name. The “no swearing” thing was a modern American addition.
So, for Christ’s sake, stop saying things about your god in his name that you don’t understand. He might take it personally.
This movie was too real for a superhero movie.
Trauma,ptsd and broken relationships.
And yet was too afraid to actually have the Hulk kill anyone despite the fact the whole premise of the character is that he's a rampaging monster
The Hulk is supposed to be bleak.
@@Cyberleader672 But the whole premise of the Hulk is THAT HE'S NOT A RAMPAGING MONSTER! It's funny how many so called Hulk fans that slam this movie haven't actually read any Hulk comics. The Green Hulk's nickname is called "the Child". He is literally Bruce's repressed, frightened, angry and hurt inner child that he's buried deep due to trauma. No other depiction has nailed this aspect better than Ang Lee's film.
@@Cyberleader672they didn't want to catch an r rating
@@seijin4426 Him killing people wouldn't give it an R rating. He killed people in the Incredible Hulk
1:30 "its my mother, and I dont even know her name" he starts breaking down and his dad... just looks annoyed at him.
He gives him a half assed "just let it out son" but you know he's not talking about his feelings he's taking about Hulk.
David considers hulk his son not Bruce, he dehumanizes Bruce to a degree its disgusting and even disturbing a Dad would see/ do this type of thing to his son.
David lost his humanity a long time ago.
To this day this adaption is still the best rendition of The Incredible Hulk. Perfectly captured the inner turmoil and struggle in his mind Bruce Banner faces
Nah my man this was the worst hulk movie ever
@@JustSendMeLocation Go watch your MCU shit, then.
Look it's the 12 year old who had to have a marvel sticker and iron man in ever movie he watches
@@JustSendMeLocation no
@@milicenty it was
I love the dynamic duo of this father & son relationship: Bruce turning into the Hulk is basically the Frankenstein and his father is the mad scientist that created it!
Fun fact! Stan Lee said his inspiriation for the hulk was Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde
You'll never hear dialogue like this in the MCU. Which is ironic, since this is exactly the kind of dialogue I read as a kid in the comics.
The comics aren't perfect but they are much better than MCU. I miss pre-MCU Marvel films that were stand alone and made by different studios.
@@Disconnect350The films distributed by Paramount felt a lot more mature than the Disney distributed films
@@Disconnect350for sure. Iron Man 1 feels so odd when you compare it to Iron Man 3. In a good way kind of odd
I really want a proper God Loves Man Kills adaptation because it would be very gutsy to have William Stryker be the Reverend and not some Military nut. For once bring up religion as a villain and not a good thing.
Yes
This and spider-man with Maguire were the first couple of superhero movies that I saw growing up.
Man, they TRULY don't make em like this anymore.
Hulk and Spider-Man were also the first superhero movies I saw too
And this was even further away from modern marvel than spider-man. They’d never allow a superhero movie like this to be made now under marvel studios and the mcu.
Looking back in hindsight , this movie was pretty cheap.
Blade was the first superhero that, I've seen in movie theaters.
@@AvxrysPigPlushiefar from it wtf you on a about. Disney crap now is cheap and over budgeted. Garbage writing.
David comes to see The Hulk, his true creation, his real son.
Bruce was only a shell for him.
It makes me sick of David’s intentions on Bruce
Honestly, he wasn't his son either.Hulk hated david as much as bruce did, and it's what bound them together against their common foe.
It's how trauma works in real life. Bruce banner it's just a "fake self", a shell that protects his "inner child" his real Ego that split off because of trauma , and that later becomes the HULK. That's why he remembers his mother. He "became the hulk" and got his repressed memories back. In real life, with people with this kind of disturbs (sociopaths, borderline, histrionic, narcisist (like banner)) are "fake". Their are really just "shells" for their still child/destructive personality. Hulk , in the comics, is treated like a child, and people constantly remind banner to treat him right, because he is the real one of the two , and he his just a lashing out angry child missing his mother.
@@a.jthomas6132 David was a megalomanian psychopath.
@@a.jthomas6132 That’s what makes him a great villain.
Eric bana is a incredibly underrated actor and nick nolte is a incredibly underrated legendary actor
Bana is dope in black hawk down as well, really dope actually
"I'll go, you just watch me go!" Crazy as hell
While he attempts to eat a thousand volt cable
Hit it.
I quote this line all the time to my wife randomly. I even have her saying it sometimes after she learned where I got the quote from 😂
SAME BRO@@independentthinker5105
@@independentthinker5105 U KAN STiLL STAY TOGETHER iF U WANT BUT GET THAT DiVORCE FROM NOW MAN, iT AiN'T LOOKiN WELL ! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
I love how experimental and deep this film is. Kevin Feige would never allow this to be made again.
I am definitely sure that probably could fit for him to make movies like scary movie instead superheroes movie
Yeah, cause it was fucking garbage in comparison to better films even at that time.
Fiege is all about shallow and superficial movies.
it failed on it's ass.
@@mitchjames9350 What do you mean "Feige is all about shallow and superficial movies"? I'm just curious.
gosh even years later this movie still hits different
This is THE BEST HULK film ever made, bar none. Bravo Ang Lee, and Nick Nolte is SO underrated.
he got the reception back after being imprisoned for drunk driving
@@abrahamlupis9354 drunk driving, huh? Ok, he can stay underrated.
@@WolframtheBlessed3499 oh no, Nick Nolte didn't hurt anybody, he learnt his lesson of not driving under the influence and we got tons of funny jokes about his look with that hawaiian shirt
@@abrahamlupis9354 ok well IF he learned his lesson, we'll love him again.
Nolte should have gotten a supporting actor Golden Globe and an Oscar for his performance in this movie. The dialogues are superb and similar to poetry.
4:30 Always makes me laugh
My dad when I was a teen and disagreed with him
me too 😂
😂😂😂😂
Same!
Same it's makes me giggle every time
One of the best "superhero" movies I've seen.
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@@배운형-d7jwhy?
@@AdamLBhe was just practicing his copy and paste skills. We’ve all been there
i am always calm, you sound mentally ill yourself brother@@isaacsmith6878
Yeah, honestly we never usually get dark and emotional superhero stories like this one these days with the only expectation being Batman, 2022
Happy to hear anything about how much like the comics it may or may not have been. But this was BY FAR my favorite Bruce Banner. Because you could always feel it inside him no matter the scene, you could always feel the forrest fire inside him just waiting for the smallest little ember. And it made this movie so uniquely intense.
You nailed it completely agree
The actor of David Banner did terrific job, what a true actor! Must have background experience from theatre.
He is Nick Nolte bro, he's been doing this since even your dad was born. He is a very great actor! He is friends with Eddie Murphy in 24 Hrs and kicked Robert de Niro's ass in Cape Fear.
Paul kersey also plays The Younger version of nick nolte in the same film
@marlynbarros3077 but he wasn't a big name
Ang Lee definitely used Nolte's theatre experience to his advantage in this scene lol
Nick Nolte
Edited like one'se eyes reading a comic book from panel to panel, page to page, I loved that unique and subtle nod to Marvel and fans.
I personally think it worked better in Scott Pilgrim and Into/Across The Spider-Verse cuz they were self aware and light hearted unlike this film which tries to be a very mature drama making the comic panel style stand out like a sore thumb
Ironically this doesn't have the signature comic book editing the whole movie had. This is just a raw conversation between a damaged son and his indifferent dad.
This was a really sad movie to watch as kid.....
It’s better than making the Hulk a Shrek clone.
I didn't understand when I was a kid😂
Same
Me too.
I only came for that buff green monster as a kid.
I don't care what people say this is a good movie
Was simple ahead of his time.
It wasn't a big budget movie with big explosions and cheesy dialogue so the simple-minded folks didn't like it.
@@jonathanjohnson9611there's not a forced joke every 2 minutes, thumbs down.
Seriously though this movie and the Edward Norton written 2008 movie are so good. 2 of my favorite movies
There are lots of recent articles from critics realizing this movie was unfairly trashed back in the day just for giving depth and restraint when people wanted a dumb summer movie.
4:19 I just noticed how Bruce's scream is mixed with Hulk's volume, showing that it's both Hulk and Bruce sharing their hatred towards the dad.
((EDIT Now I understand it's actually not Bruce holding back, it's David absorbing his power by getting close to him, and Bruce just gets more angry to where David needed to sit down and do that 'YEEAUUGH' to burn it off. This is literally a parent-child argument being portrayed
))
When Hulk first got angry at him, Bruce still didn't know him at that point. The whole final battle was supposed to be Bruce and Hulk working together, and that's why he was able to speak and give away his powers at the moment.
Bruce is being in full control of his body now that he knows his anger, after having scenes like "Puny Human" earlier, to show that they couldn't see eye to eye until he understood the reason why (bars).
2:00 mark as well you here both voices
Imagine David teaming up with Dafoe’s Norman Osborn. Two crazy geniuses would probably destroy the world
I did get that Green Goblin feel going on with David, of course there being differences in their demeanour towards their respective sons in particular.
Imagine if Dafoe played David in this film 🤯
And tobey maguire spiderman & eric bana hulk would've beaten them.
@@stephrey8297 Idk if they would. MCU Savage Hulk didn't play well with others(at first). Bana Hulk would be fighting Tobey Spidey, who never fought something of that level in his movies(Venom couldve been that, but wasn't).
David could destroy the world if he wanted to, and Bruce/Hulk is the only one that could stop him.. As for Norman, well, he needs to make a suit that can tank a glider first, lol
4:19 oh look out hulk is about to be unleashed 😂😂😂I started laughing when he screamed GOOO bless him
4:29 and then his dad does that random tantrum 💀
4:19 I thought he scream noooooooooo
...it's not funny at all. He screamed "No"
What's so funny about it?
@hob_channel He didn't shout "no" he shouted "Go!" As in Go, Leave, GTFO of my face. David was just being a rambling madman with a God complex. I would've wanted him to leave too if I had to hear all that crap up close.
1:41 when he said it's ok son go ahead and cry when Bruce started crying for his mum if I was standing there I would have totally let Bruce out of those chains just so that he can go his father after he said just go ahead and cry like he didn't care that his son is crying cause he misses his mother
2:05 I’ve got to say his father is very abusive to Bruce Banner.
4:36
He chose his work and research instead of giving me the love and attention all kids deserve and because of his neglect I'm cursed with severe anger and emotional distress!!
Murry Wilson: Rock n Roll Dad did the same subject but much funnier.
I’m sorry to hear that.
Maybe needs money to feed ur ass
This film to me even with its flaws was always ahead of it time with me
Sir Nick Nolte should have won an oscar for this scene. This is the best performance since Michael Caine's ether huffing abortionist in the Cider House Rules.
The hate on this movie makes no sense. Like every movie made around this time gets called trash cuz of CGI. Like wtf do u expect. This is when it was really getting popular
There are movies being made today with worse CGI than this movie.
Hulk 2003 gets hated on because it's a long boring film. It wasn't a superhero film..
@@MrLobo1024That’s what made it good
I love that it's the only Hulk film so far to show that his size increases with his anger. That's an idea that the MCU dropped altogether. Also... Jennifer Connelly. Yowza.
@@MrLobo1024 dumbest answer
This film is a nostalgia that marked my childhood !
I wonder if this part was intentionally made to look like a stage play. The lighting, the staging, and the performances in this scene very much feel like something youd see in a filmed version of a play.
Given the rest of the films efforts to be different and experimental, I wouldnt be shocked if that was the intention.
Now that you brought it up, it actually looks like it
@jsl8461 Very astute observations and a well thought out comment. You compliment the original poster's point about the stage play elements, which I had not thought about until I happened upon this thread.
*2003 HULK is a masterpiece. The acting, writing and directing in this one scene alone has more depth and intrigue than anything made today.* 💯
Now that's an exaggeration
I wouldn’t call it a masterpiece, but I do agree this film is far too underrated. If you view it as a drama rather than a “Marvel Movie” it comes off way better.
@@Tiberius_Productions Well, masterpiece of superhero genre, at least.
Best story, best actors, best hulk design 👌🏼🫡
No where near a masterpiece
This was my first superhero movie that made me realize even heroes have tragic pasts.
4:27 Nolte losing his mind caught on camera 😂
4:30 I died laughing
I tried making it a meme.
that actor definitely enjoyed his role haha
Me too
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This movie is incredibly underrated. Rewatched it last night and a marvel movie will probably never be made like this again.
Logan is quite similar.
Nick Nolte such a good actor
I can not believe he called his son a little speck of human trash what kind of father is he seriously if my father said that to me I would be shocked for weeks
He’s a father that performed experiments on his son. Aka not a father
Well its to be expected. as Bruce's father is a demented Wacko, a Deranged Lunatic, and EVIL HEARTLESS S.O.B. ScumBag...
@@cameronagha1449 DAMN RIGHT. Bruce's so called, "dad" He only see's his son as a Source of Power He can use to Grow Stronger. ALL david cares about is Power and will do anything to get it. and he also wants to display his power to the world which he shows here as he clearly states he plans to DESTROY Army's and government's and anthem's and Flag's and ENTIRE Nation's. He's Talking about mass murdering Most likely hundreds of millions, Maybe even BILLIONS of Innocent Live's. David is a DAMN Monster and A TOTAL PSYCHOPATH.
that type of father that is prepared to murder his son with a kitchen knife and call it "mercy". The type of father that beats and murders his wife in front of his own son. Not exactly father of the year.
Also he's been in prison for 30 years...now he has superpowers. He is totally unhinged at this point.
my father would be eating through a tube
4:31 NYEAAAAAAAA hahaha that was just hilarious
4:30 when i see a chicken nuggy missing in my box
Me when I get a girl toy instead of a boy toy in my Happy Meal
I faintly remember this scene and when I say the time stamp and caption I knew exactly what it was
Me when l see immature american.
Thats stage acting 101 at 3:11
Creo que este film es infravalorado. Este diálogo es bastante bueno ya que no solo son dos hombres marcados por una herencia y una relación que ninguno de los dos cosas quiso, pero comparten un mismo destino. El discurso de Nolte contra el sistema es genial
mcu never really got the inner torment of bruce banner/hulk he is a great character but a tragic one in many ways
3:20
David kinda has a good point about the army, he did in fact try to find a cure for Bruce decades ago and he tried to kill his own son, but inadvertently killed his own wife. It's sad at the fact the David went insane after the events from when he and Bruce were younger - if Ross hadn't shut down the protocol, he could've found a cure.
It not necessarily true it also david fault for science experiments onto himself pass on to Bruce. David knew the government doesn't want human experiments. So the whole plot is david fault.
2:01 me when my brother hugs me
3:20 STOP!. STOP WHAT?! STOP WHAT???
“Think about all those men out there in their uniforms!”
@@ChristianFrates1997 “BARKING AND SWALLOWING ORDERS! INFLICTING THEIR PETTY RULE OVER THE GLOBE, THINK OF ALL THE HARM THEY’VE DONE, TO YOU, TO ME! TO HUMANITY! AND KNOW THIS, THAT WE CAN MAKE THEM, AND THEIR FLAGS DISAPPEAR IN A FLASH!”
“ _STOP WHAT!?_ *_STOP. WHAT!?!?_* “
THINK OF ALL THE HARM THEY'VE DONE TO YOU TO ME TO HUMANITY 😂 love that line
When I was a child… And when my mom would tell me to stop. I would always recite that moment… I got smacked each time, lol.
*4:30*
I'm willing to bet money Nick Nolte improvised that
Yesssss i thought i was the only one who thought that. There is nooo way that is on the script 😂😂🤣
Nick Nolte got to play himself
Whoah, their voices are so good!
The writing and acting in this film is leagues ahead of anything Marvel has put out in the last 10 years and it’s not even close.
It’s quite similar to Logan.
This movie did a bold choice all those years ago, showing the father of Bruce, showing a good reason why Bruce has so much trauma, and so mentally unstable.
Was weird making him into the Absorbing Man, but same time it does make sense that he'd also be a "freak" from experimentation
This is some real father and son bonding.
Fans: Marvel, we love you, but can you stop making jokes out of every movie?
MCU: *3:22*
The tone in this film is quite similar to Logan.
@@ChristianFrates1997 it's a psychological drama and I appreciate what the film was trying to do. I think ang lee may have over did it with the comic style editing but it is what it is. It's still a great film. People bitch about the cgi have no idea what they're talking about. Most of the shots still hold up to this day and look amazing. Some shots look horrible yes. But they're as bad as most of incredible hulk.
@@ChristianFrates1997 Logan was more of a gritty, Neo-Western, road movie. Ang Lee's Hulk is a psychological, suspense drama and a character study of someone disturbingly effected by blocked out childhood trauma.
The MCU's jokes are as forced as that dad's response to Bruce.
It’s ok too have humor in not comedy films tbh ngl…but just don’t completely over do it
0:38
Bruce Banner: I should have killed you
Brian Banner: I should have killed you,
Bruce Banner: you would have, I saw her last night, I saw her face, brown hair, her beautiful brown eyes, she was smiling at me, she leaned over to give me a kiss, I can almost smell her, like desert flowers.
Brian Banner: Her favorite perfume
Bruce Banner: was my mother, I don't even know her name.
David Bruce Banner was born Brian David banner and his son Bruce was born Robert Bruce banner
David banner experimented on him self passed it on to Robert Bruce banner and Robert Bruce banner got into the gamma blast
Marvel comics are using both banners one at a time
The TV hulk show is about David banner not his son Robert Bruce banner
@@Anthony-y3i9n We have Chat GPT learning in real time, that's crazy.
No offense to Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk but I really like Edward Norton but also Eric Bana and Lou Ferrigno is good too
Edward Norton is all that matters in the 21st-century.
Too bad he blew his career with the Hulk.
Edward Norton was the definitive Bruce Banner -- he captured the intellectual rage of Bruce that made him believable as a potential Hulk. Ruffalo completely downplayed and goofed up the character to a ridiculous degree. He was basically just being an aloof Mark Ruffalo as Hulk, whereas Eric Bana and Edward Norton both actually tried to channel the character of Bruce Banner, especially Edward Norton.
Wonderful movie. Criminally unappreciated, so artistic.
"Nyaaahhh " stomp stomp - nick nolte 2003
4:29 That pretty sums up how I feel with the MCU nowadays... 😒
Nolte makes Bana look like a first year actor. So good.
It makes me happy to know that this movie is getting more love nowadays.
I read on the IMDb that David was Bruce Banner’s dad as a tribute to the live action TV SERIES AND MADE FOR TV MOVIES. And Bruce’s Dad’s name in the comics was Brian.
We need more arthouse superhero movies like this.
Logan is very similar.
@@ChristianFrates1997 The Problem is Logan isn’t a standalone.
Nolte is a legend.
2:01 😅
“DON’T TOUCH ME😭!”
The way he's father backed up & Bruce's echoes 😂😂
"😤😠... Maybe once, you were my father, *but you're not now, and you never will be!* "
This man could have been the next joker he acts like heath ledger
I saw this film last night at our art house theater and I was watching this is what I was literally saying his presence was as creepy as heaths when I first saw The Dark Knight in theaters
You mean Heath Ledger acts like him. This came out in 2003.
"Every crazy actors need to play the joker" - probably most 15 year old kids these days
It’s funny how people made fun of this film for being boring
15 years later and suddenly people realized it was well written/directed.
Where have y’all been for the past 20 years bozos.
Eric Bana does not get enough credit for Petrehn a man who not only has deep-seated angry issues, but I hate enrage so powerful within himself it takes every essence of his being just a hold it back. Which looks painful in itself. Then you have Nick Nolte a phenomenal actor need I not say anything more. Two power houses coming together to create an underrated gym to last for eternity. This is not my favorite whole movie, but at one point in time it is the 2008 Edward Norton‘s home is my absolute favorite. But this is an underrated gem that holds a special valuable place in my heart.
4:19
*_”GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!😡”_*
Its like seeing stage theatrical performance.....what a fantastic performance from both actors
Been saying this for years, so true
You can complain that Ang Lee did a drama on Hulk, an iconic comic character that smash, that the movie lacks more fights, that Eric Bana isn't the guy for the green monster, that the CGI of Hulk looks like claymation
but Universal did Hulk movies unlike Marvel Studios now
Man this movie will always be my favorite
Same
I watch this movie since I was 13 now I'm 17
And im 27 still remembering this movie more than the recent movies with hulk in it
@@adalbertovillasenor ok good
This the best hulk movie they made honestly the other ones were good because they had abomination in it but this one was had a better story a better hulk image and it was more about his personal life
This is an amazing scene - the hole movie suddenly turns into high theatre.
I feel like this is a reference to a form of theater I can't get the name of. Where it's a dark stage with two chairs, and the goal is for the actors to display as much raw, genuine emotion as they can.
That wasn't acting. Nick Nolte just wandered onto set and they kept the cameras rolling.
Because of the careful and grounded way this movie’s approach was executed in, because it feels more palpable, more real, when he says together they could make the nations disappear, you kinda believe it, and it hits you in a kind of unsettling way. In an mcu movie etc when the entire world is being taken over or blowing up you feel no weight to it because it’s all just like a cartoon. You never feel like anything is really at stake or that any people are really in danger even when a whole city is collapsing.
Can Someone Call Eric Bana To Reprise His Role In Secret Wars
He turned it down.
So, Nick Nolte is STILL around. Currently 83 years old. Can you imagine how cool it would be if he reprised 2003 David Banner/Absorbing Man role for the MCU? Still a villain, a result of a multiverse mess, being a threat to Ruffalo Bruce/The Professor, and Bruce would be pissed & reminded of the abuse he went through that created the Hulk persona in the first place.
And David would be curious of how Ruffalo Bruce controls the Gamma powers, because his Bana Bruce doesn't do that.
I was also gonna say it'd be cool if that young David Banner actor played that character for Ruffalo's Banner, but that actor quit acting.
@4:30 always gets me 😂
3:21 - 3:45 feel like he is talking about what going on in the world right now
Is it crazy to think that this film would have been much better received had it arrived in the last 5 years?
Considering that X-Men and Spider-Man were the only successful ongoing CBM franchises when this arrived, it's clear why something so different was poorly received by fans and the general audience.
I'm not sure the same thing happens if it arrives in recent years.
"STOP WHAT! "
Nick nolte maaaaan!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This scene feels like theatre performance
This scene is incredible. No pun intended. But Nick Nolte looked into the camera 2 times, lmfao.
I noticed that as well.
@@Billy-bc8pk It is explained it in the novelization that he looked into the literal camera Ross's team set up there, intentionally.
@@shocktun3s729 Ah okay that makes sense.
In this movie he has a father name David banner as in David banner from the old hulk series
If so, could you tell David Banner that I just slashed his tires?
That’s correct.
In the comics his name is Brian banner
@@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 oh thanks
@@Antoniocardozo3763the TV show hulk is about David banner the father instead of Robert Bruce banner the son
"Okay. Ill go! YOU JUST WATCH ME GO!!"
Basically, the trauma a toilet goes through😂😂😂😂😂.
One of the best Marvel films ever made. Admit it.
Nolt Necktie is good in this. He way more cray cray than Walken.
This scene proves that some parents aren't worth any love at all.
This is a fictional character
@@rankrodent2772 omg, really? I had no idea! You are a genius! Thanks for letting me know what I already knew. 🤣
@@rankrodent2772even fiction has some truth to them! You need to start thinking about where they get their ideas from!
Fictional or not! This is how most parents are normally when they are abusing their children, and putting all this venom in them.
Sad thing as David actually did love his son at first. But then he became mad with power over genetics and treated bruce as a test tube.Rather than a son, he is no better than a nazi scientist And just as deranged if not worse
In my mind, David Banner is a brilliant representation of when desire and greed overcomes love and empathy.
David became so power hungry for the type of power his son had, that eventually he was willing to do anything, even kill his own son, in order to obtain it.
And its that difference illustrated brilliantly in this scene that really sets the two men apart, and its that difference that gives Bruce the human dignity that David no longer possesses, and also teaches a brilliant life-lesson:
No matter what type of men our fathers may have been, no matter how bad they have been, that we are not them, nor do we have to become them, but we can set our own course, and choose for ourselves who and what we will be as men.
This scene is perfect whatever about the rest of the movie. This scene and the family backstory was the best parts of this movie. Extremely sad I feel like they should lean back into this and what Norton did with his hulk. It would be a huge palate cleanser to see the character's troubles be recognised properly. I would love to see Edward Berger/James Mangold/Darren Aronofsky direct. I'd try to tie Craig Mazin or Frank Darabont to be main writers with a second writer being Steve Lightfoot or David Kagjanich and have Lightfoot producing too. Tina Anderson involved too.
This movie is so much better than the edward norton one. sue me.
Movie is genuinely underrated
throughout this whole movie my mother was cackling and pointing at my father and me because the dynamic was so similar.