Spider-Man vs Green Goblin Condo Fight Scene | Spider-Man No Way Home
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2023
- The situation gets out of Peter's (Tom Holland) control when Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe) shows up and the villains stop working together.
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For the first time in the cinematic history of Spider-Man, our friendly neighborhood hero's identity is revealed, bringing his Super Hero responsibilities into conflict with his normal life and putting those he cares about most at risk. When he enlists Doctor Strange’s help to restore his secret, the spell tears a hole in their world, releasing the most powerful villains who’ve ever fought a Spider-Man in any universe. Now, Peter will have to overcome his greatest challenge yet, which will not only forever alter his own future but the future of the Multiverse. 
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“Strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it.” Is like the perfect antithesis to “With great power, comes great responsibility.”
And its a special quote from the caracter himself after the events of the first movie
When he wanted to team up with spidey, like a quote from the roof talk scene
That why Green Goblin is to Spider-Man, what Joker is to Batman.
I find great admiration in the profound manner in which those diverse quotations elucidate the inherent dissimilarities between goblin and Spider Man. As the insightful comment aptly observes, a parallel can be drawn between the infamous Joker and the enigmatic vigilante, Batman.
"Your strength has returned. But your weakness still remains!"
@anonymous-hz2un Another reason why Batman and spiderman share a stronger parallel is because they share the concept of leading dual lives. Batman is Bruce Wayne, a billionaire playboy, and Spider-Man is Peter Parker, a high school student. This duality creates internal conflicts and adds depth to their characters. In contrast, Tony Stark (Iron Man) and Norman Osborn (Green Goblin) primarily operate under their own identities and don't have secret alter egos in the same way.
William dafoe blew my mind in this movie. His acting was incredible.
The way he turned from da-FRIEND to da-FOE is mind blowing
His acting is always mindblowing. Whether it is Spiderman, John Wick 1, or any other movies he partakes in.
yeah, that made me hate the character absolutely.
If it weren't for Andrew's big moment, he would've single-handedly stole the show.
Hes always been an incredible actor but yes in this movie he really did steal the show even while being surrounded by an all star cast. Platoon will always be his BEST performance tho
Imagine knowing *something* is wrong, you just can't tell what.
That must be a horrible feeling.
Imagine that same feeling magnified a millionth fold when the snap happened.
Not limited to spiderman
The word to describe that feeling is Dread.
@@eyeseer1 No. The word is anxiety.
its called anxiety dear, everyone suffers from it once in a while
A lot of people dont understand how scary this scene is. The fact Spider-Man is pulling his punches because he can't fathom the true strength the Green Goblin has, like when Tom starts wailing on Dafoe's face and he laughs it off like it was painless. That always gives me the chills. I get goosebumps everytime I replay this scene
Read the comments clown. Plenty of people understand, youre not the only one.
Yea people sometimes forget goblin is one durable ass mf
Yeah he's no jive turkey, especially so close to Thanksgiving.😅
They make it clear in the rematch that Peter wasn't holding back anymore, just based on how quickly he beat Goblin in said rematch. Peter was also wounded for the remainder of the movie, after his first encounter with Goblin. So the fact that he bodied Goblin so quickly in the rematch is a true testament to his own will and endurance!
@@isuckatlife7841 Yeah, Tobey dropped a whole brick wall on Goblin and he took it well.
I love how they kept Otto as a good guy cause he really wasn’t a a bad person
It's consistent with his character. You're right, Otto was never a bad person. Spider-Man 2 portrayed him as a good man before the accident that turned him into Doc Ock. He lost control of his mind to the tentacles' A.I. and was corrupted by them. It made sense that once he was 'cured', he'd immediately switch sides and help out the heroes.
Sandman too. He just too confused which side he should on. I remember the part where he was in the pit of sand at the factory site, he just heartbroken and feeling guilty at the same time. Until the end, Tobey Spiderman make him good again, because it was not his fault that uncle Ben died, It's his partner's fault. It's normal for him to feel guilty and when Tobey Spiderman trying to talk him out, he chose to forgive sandman and knows all he do is for his daughter. It's kinda sad.
@@kormankongther8609 Yeah, Spider3 was bloated and Sandman was unnessary but I didn't have a problem with how they portrayed his character. EXCEPT, it turns out he was the one who actually shot uncle Ben.
@@kormankongther8609 I don't think Sandman is confused about which side he should be on. Flint seems like he's on his own side. He just wants to go back home to his own universe. That is ultimately all he cares about. He gets stuck in the middle of the fight between the villains and the Spider-Men. He admits during the final battle that he doesn't care about curing the villains. He was only fighting against the Spider-Men at the Statue of Liberty because he wanted to use the box to get home. He knew the other villains were trying to destroy it and he wasn't going to take any chances.
Also, it WAS his fault that Uncle Ben died. While it may have an accident in the sense that Flint never meant to shoot and only did so on reflex because his partner startled him, Flint was still the one there holding the gun and intending to steal Ben's car. If he hadn't been doing what he was doing that night then Ben would still be alive, and Flint probably knew that deep down. He's still responsible, and that's why he felt guilty.
@@Nay-kp6uu Nah, that's not that much of a problem. Other adaptions did it differently. One of them had it being that Felicia's dad was Uncle Bens killer for instance.
William Dafoe was already the perfect person to play the Goblin in the first movie.
He literally outperformed HIMSELF. Took it to a 1000%
Dafoe really gives 200% on every role he portrays, no matter the genre, no matter the movie.
Greatest supervillain in live action superhero movies imo
Norman's on sabbatical honey... might be the coldest lines in history
Removing the mask was the best decision, really showed his perfect face expressions as goblin
Wish the movie had more of him watching this fight scene again I notice theres a lot of unnecessary cuts. Like we dont need to cut to see Aunt May running down the stairs in the middle of a fight scene
This is what i love about the Goblin. He's not like other villains who commit crimes because of certain circumstances. He's just evil for the hell of it.
I mean the serum did cause him to have a split personality so...
@@user-ge6oo5vy4pexactly lol and this mf wanna act like he's being evil ON PURPOSE😂
It's like he's Putin
To him, having these powers means that you should be able to do whatever you want and take whatever you want, and if you don’t, then what’s the point? That’s kind of his whole philosophy in both this film and Spider-Man 1. *“Those teeming masses exist for the sole purpose of lifting the few exceptional people onto their shoulders, you and me, we’re exceptional.”* He’s a brilliant character and his motivations and characterization completely separates him from the rest. And Dafoe’s line delivery never misses either.
He is kinda like joker, except he is superhuman.
Something I like about Peters realization in this fight is that every enemy in the normal MCU usually has a pretty logical reason for the things they do even if they are wrong, green goblin is the first form of pure evil he has to face and it breaks him wide open
Green goblin is to Spiderman what the Joker is to Batman.
Love this take!!
@@-o-dq7ndwith way higher IQ and scientific knowledge. Makes him twice as dangerous.
@@jayadevmenon7086yes bro is literally nightmare for spiderman 💀
He's not pure evil. They butchered norman/goblins character here
I love how Willam DeFoe and Alfred Molina are still able to bring so much great personality to these characters after so long.
It is a very sad that their characters did not stay as Friends for way too long in this film!
that movie was mainly boring , too casual, Holland's Spiderman/Parker wasn't as cool and interesting as Tobey Maguire but when Dafoe's Goblin and Molina's Doc Ock , are on the scene , the movie suddenly become badass and entertaining. their scenes were the best.
@@daegnaxqelil2733All right we get it! Don’t you have anything better to do? I better not see another repost of this comment.
@@derek3512 here is another prime example of the modern internoid trying to deny someone of having an opinion that differs from theirs.
Truly the internet has done wonders to todays society.
Alfred Molina took the cake for me tbh
Just when you thought Willem Dafoe couldn't outdo himself as the Green Goblin, he gives us this. Big kudo's to the director and writers.
Also loved the fact that Willem did most of his own stunts. He said if he can't do his own stunts, then he's not worthy playing Green Goblin
This was awesome
@@samlung2724 I also heard that when he was approached to play Norman/Green Goblin again, he asked as a condition to not use any mask, so he could show all his facial expressions. I'm so glad that happened.
@@aaron90omaryeah it’s crazy that the best version of goblin we got didn’t need special effects, prosthetics, etc to pull it off. Just Willam F’n Defoe’s acting prowess..
ikrrrr you can tell he LOVED that role and wasnt gonna have someone fuck it up for him
@@samlung2724
I love Lizard's role here. Just chillin' in the dark, waiting for the chaos to start, and strikes when it starts. So Underrated
He and Sandman really shouldn't have been in this movie. They served no real purpose and were the least developed of the Sinister 5 who fought Spider-Man.
@@trueblue6201
At least Sandman helped out when Electro arrived
Lizard running down on the side of the building and telling Peter 'I told you there would be consequences' as he grabs him by the face and throws him back into the building was so epic!
@@ncube2468hell yeah , you almost don’t know if it was to help Peter not be seen by the news copter or if he was helping Norman by bringing spider man to him to continue the fight. Or maybe both because he was tryna teach him a lesson about not taking his advice
I disagree with that. As others have mentioned, Lizard warned Peter as he was debating whether or not to save them (the villains), “Trust me, Peter. When you try to fix people, there are always consequences.” He made him pay.
On the other hand, when Sandman clarified how Doc Ock & Goblin died by saying “they both die fighting Spider-Man”, that was the moment where they understood their fate, and secretly motivated them to change the outcome. Flint isn’t a bad person, I believe he just decided to join the villains at that moment Electro throws Ock through the wall because the momentum was on their side.
I love how he isn't just threatening and tempting Peter, but also subtly manipulating Electro into rejecting the cure.
Is it subtle tho? He looks right at Electro when he says they don't need to be fixed and they're gifts.
@@loganbigmo He's talking to Peter, and indirectly influencing Electro. So yes, it's subtle.
Lol subtle
@@giagarex I love this scene but no its not subtle .
@@giagarexHe turns and talks directly to Electro though.
Just goes to show Willem Dafoe’s face is better than any mask Hollywood could build. Love how he actually insisted on doing these stunts himself.
That man’s face, demented grin and chilling laugh haunted my nightmares as a kid lmao
Clearly you haven't watched legend with Tom cruise. A great latex mask with expression and some face paint and it would of added to his performance. The latex mask is what's missing from the green goblin performance. Without the costume you don't have a marvel movie just a movie. And that's where you all fail to realize matters in this franchise. Otherwise why are you a fan if you don't wanna see the costumes come to life. Imagine every super hero without a mask and just powers and digital effects. At that point your just watching superman without the eye lasers or flying or the cape.
@@Aaron_Heininger Good point, Counterargument, Shut the fuck up it's Willem Dafoe.
Apparently when he took a couple of punches from Peter and started grinning and laughing, that's Tom real reaction and it wasn't scripted.
You know he's something of a stuntman himself.
The way Willem can completely change his face and voice is unbelievable
When he said "Just Me." .....I felt that shit summon him. I was like aww shitt😭😭 👹👹
@@AntiAmerican23 the moment we all knew Goblin was coming out.
Because he’s really a crazy man.
It was going to be the green goblin mask like from the cartoon and comics but it was too complicated, so it was just the metal head and costume of the green goblin
that movie was mainly boring , too casual, Holland's Spiderman/Parker wasn't as interesting as Tobey Maguire but when Dafoe's Buffoon is on the scene , the movie suddenly become badass and entertaining
“Normans on sabbatical, honey” was flawlessly delivered! His performance in this movie was incredible from start to finish
Electro: the hell
It’s so funny to me people see this and are genuinely impressed when that’s how acting used to be. You used to have these great actors who could just embrace and body every role no matter the genre we still have some actors like that today but far and few between it’s sad I agree though phenomenal performance William Defoe is amazing
Was searching for this one 🤣👌@@JHobieDance
The smile too. Willem is amazing. Lol
I was about to come and say this. His delivery gives shivers down to my spine
I absolutely love the fact that MCU peters spider sense is so damn strong he could sense that goblin took over Norman’s body before anyone knew what was going on.
@@chaxologist2961yyyeeeeah no
why?
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@@nestormelendez9005what did he say
4:11 That backhand from Goblin was absolutely brutal. I think people often forget how absurdly strong the Green Goblin is. This fight made him look like a tank.
I was afraid the filmmakers would have forgotten lol. Remember how the final battle in Spider-Man 1 had the Goblin thrashing Spider-Man?
Used to watch that on repeat as a kid with my siblings😅 don't know why but we found that super entertaining
This Green Goblin is stronger than Captain America -- able to lift about 9 tons. Soo yeah. That backhand would definitely hurt. lol
if peter wasnt holding back it woulda been wraps
@@vulturedroid7674 The Rami Spider Man movies never really did a good job with displaying super strength in battles in my opinion.
This film managed to really capture super strength in a way they never really managed with the Hulk or Thor. Hits feel really impactful- the physics looks believable instead of cartoon like.
It's my favorite fight in the MCU. Just for that fact alone.
Captain America The Winter Soldier is a close second when it comes to the physics.
@@Rageren winter soldier has some of my favorite fight sequences of all the movies. Everything feel exaggerated like a comic books, but in a believable way
@Gabe Mark not really
@Gabe Mark the impacts were either exagerrated or ragdolly, not grounded
5:53 The way Defoe's face morphs into a smile with each punch Spidey throws is haunting.
That was more epic than Batman's interrogation scene against the Joker.
And the laughter afterwards. He laughs because Spidey is pulling his punches. Thus the lines about not being strong enough to take it.
@3912James The Dark Knight is still a better movie than a film that carries itself by nostalgia.
@@solid5502
No. Just the 1st Goblin/Spidey fight not the overall comparison between the two movies. How you feel about the Dark Knight....you won't get an argument out of me.
Fun fact that laugh was improvised by William, Tom said this in an interview and he said it actually made him scared.
I love this so much because this version of Peter has never faced an evil like this before. They did an absolutely brilliant job at displaying Goblin as Spider-Man's greatest enemy.
Yeah, I guess but the only downside is that this wasn't his green goblin, it was Toby's...someone else's. That adds an aura of disappointment because he's not having his Spider-Man moment with his own Green goblin
@@JTCLAN1Yeah but the whole point of this film was multiversal villains. Like, it would have been so easy for them to chuck Vulture in here just to make it a SS and I'm glad they didn't.
Also, he very much became 'Tom's villain' when he killed Aunt May tbf. He took more from Tom that the other Spider villains in the MCU and more than he took from Tobey tbh.
@@JTCLAN1I see it in a different way. It's great he had to face Toby's green goblin because Tom's spiderman had never faced an evil force like him before, and, in a way, continues green goblins character, he failed to corrupt Toby but has a new spiderman to corrupt
@@JTCLAN1 the real problem imo is that Tobey and Norman hadn't a single solid interaction or conversation :(
@@JTCLAN1 To be honest, Goblin was much more personal to Tom Spidey, since he killed aunt May.
Dafoe's dialogue as Green Goblin is great and chilling, and the apartment fight is definitely one of the best action sequences in the MCU.
For me this is the best fight scene in the MCU
Quiet lap dog lol
Easily the best in the MCU
Man his laugh when he’s getting punched. I wish he’d play The Joker so bad
@@litman5584Nothings ever topping the Titan fight with Thanos or the airport scene fight in the Civil War
1:35 this scene gets across everything anyone needs to know about Green Goblin. Tom Holland's Peter never even really *interacted with him* before this , but his Spidey sense was going *nuts* the moment he emerged, screaming at him that he was in the room with a *monster*
The entire fight afterwards being an effortless beatdown in the Goblin's favor was just the cherry on top.
That’s an interesting thought. He’s fought Thanos who just felt he was doing was right, in HC his villain was just a criminal, Green Goblin though is an actual evil being. This Spider-Man definitely has a great Spidey Sense especially when he beat Mysterio but all of a sudden being in the room with a brand new intense evil must have been so unsettling.
The fact that he even said “May” meaning his senses predicted something terrible was going to happen to May.
@@justauser8224or that sometime terrible is in presence. The first person in that room he would be worried about in terms of safety is his aunt.
@@balinn01 they could actually be right that the spidey sense predicted harm coming to may, the way the spidersense works is it stems from a connection to the web of life, basically making it a cosmic ability
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That wasn't a fight. That was a one-sided beat down.
It really was, though. It was Peter's first bout with true evil. Goblin is evil for the sake of being evil. All the others in that room had their own motives for doing what they did but not Goblin. Come to think of it, all of Peter's prior villians had personal motives for doing what they do. So yeah, he has ever faced anyone like Goblin before. Not even Thanos set his sense off like this!
Yes this is the goblin that is pure evil to the core still mad that they cut out Tobey’s Spider-man and green goblin scenes
1:34 the fact that Peter can actually sense when Norman is becoming green goblin shows how OP the spider senses is. Not only can it detect incoming attacks, it can sense killer instinct.
It gets stronger as he gets more experienced/older. In some of the comics its pretty much esp type precognition.
Just imagine what his Spider Sense was doing to Peter right before him being snapped by Thanos.
Tom wasn't lying when he said that this particular scene was pretty scary. I knew it was coming yet it still caught me off guard with how quickly the atmosphere changed after Peter's sense went off.
Amazing Scene
It’s really good scene my favorite of this movie
In theaters this came so out of left field, it was so intense.
@@Skater-uq1gmit was his spider-sense not an anxiety attack
@@billelliott3507 What does "is like" mean?
Even before that, the fact there was no music and the awkward silences with Electro's cure working built it up fantastically
The fact that Peter's Spidersense was acute enough to detect the Green Goblin being in control of Norman is amazing. It's also so unnerving seeing him detecting a threat, but not having any idea of where it is. Kind of like someone screaming "WATCH OUT!" at you the entire time, but you having absolutely no idea what to watch out for because there's nothing wrong for you to notice.
That was my experience playing Ocarina of Time, tbh
It's like having a "Press Shift to run" pop-up in a horror videogame
You explained the spidey sense really well. Its basically having a big "WARNING." feeling and you have to guess yourself where it is
@@ArcoYeouioh my (July 3rd,2023 and July 7th,2023/Another 2 hours (7 to 9)).
Yeah. He sensed Goblin's evil and intentions.
5:05 I like how they made Electro like running through the air showing his position in a slightly human form
I honestly feel like Willem Dafoe deserved an Oscar for this portrayal of Norman/Green Goblin in this film.
6:30 is legit one of the sickest moves pulled in any marvel movie. Just the way their strength and weight is portrayed going through the floor is wild
That’s the Arn Anderson “Spine Buster… “🥃
@@Javier_Jimenez71 spiiiine on the piiine
that and 5:25 was sick af too
Bah gawd almighty he is broken in half! Spinebuster!
guessing the director watches wwe 😂😂
"Gods don't have to choose, We take" My favourite line in the entire movie!
Spiderman should had taken Norman to Asgard
In Spider-man 1: "Now choose!"
In the amazing Spider-Man 2: “And I will be like a god to them” electro
Finally someone appreciating that incredible line delivered so expertly by Dafoe
Whatever, he isn't any type of god. Just a crazy man with strength that's been beat multiple times.
William Defoe showed up and became the best MCU film in minutes. Absolute legend.
The direction for Peter’s Spider-Sense is phenomenal here. It’s absolutely bone chilling to see Peter be genuinely fearful and scared of whatever the spider sense is trying to tell him. Peter looks at everybody individually, some even multiple times, and yet he still cannot figure out what the threat is that his spider-sense is freaking out about. It isn’t until Peter stops, ignores his fear, closes his eyes, and focuses on his senses that he can locate the threat. What Peter didn’t realize though, as he still is fairly inexperienced with his Spider-sense, is that his sense was going ballistic because it knew just how big of a threat the goblin was as soon as it took over Norman. Peter’s inexperience caused him to underestimate the goblin and get his ass kicked. Wonderful direction, and easily the best and most enticing use of Spider-Sense in live action to date
5:52 you know you’ve lost the fight when you’re WAILING on someone’s face and they’re just laughing at you like that.. I know he was pulling his punches and that’s why Goblin found it funny, but still that moment of the fight gives me chills
Tom wasn’t holding back lol
@@Multi_Amhe literally later kicks goblins ass when he gets bloodlusted
@@hedgehoginacanoe5838he still wasn’t pulling any punches in this scene
@@hedgehoginacanoe5838 BLOODLUSTED tho
@@jevz7512yes he was bro. Even after goblin laughs his punches off Tom still was pulling his punches, just a little less. You can literally see at the end of the movie when he beats goblins ass that he wasn’t pulling his punches at all and not holding back.
Love how the Goblin starts laughing at Spider-Man punching him repeatedly.
I get the sense Peter was still holding back, but it’s different here as Norman is the *strongest* human he’s ever fought up until this point, and he has no idea at the power scale of the enemy he’s facing
Nah bro he was stunned when he smiled and ate those punches to the face
I think it's more that this is the point when Peter really starts getting angry and fighting back with everything he has, and this makes the Goblin happy. He wants to see Peter enraged and losing control.
Captain America probably is the strongest he’s faced
@@christianinfinity8206yea but you know Cap never went all out on Peter he’d feel guilty beating the crap out a teenage boy from Queens😂
@@christianinfinity8206 No. Goblin is much stronger than Cap.
I just will never get over the chills and experience of seeing this in a cinema on day one with all the other fans. The fact it worked as a story and everyone put in 100% despite Sony's goal for fan service makes it so much better.
Man this movie was like a world event! Definitely one for the books
Bro I was baked as fuck watching this in the cinema and when this the spider senses started kicking I thought I was tweaking.
It was Sony's idea to cram in all the other spiderman universes?
@@TheEnigmaticBM39idk but I loved it
0:18 Willem Dafoe gives the audience an early sign that the Goblin has taken over and is pretending to be Norman with the subtle voice change.
I also find it crazy that Doctor Connors could tell the Goblin had emerged. He felt it before Peter did...
As someone who struggled with a darker half himself, it was probably like looking in a mirror
As soon as Dafoe replied to Doc Ock's statement of finally being free from his darker side, I instantly nudged my husband in the cinema and whispered "He's switched, that's 100% Goblin." Husband didn't agree until second rewatch and then was stunned how I managed to pick it up. I was confused how he didn't notice the voice or mannerism changes between Ock saying the darker side line and SpiderMan shooting web at Dafoe's hand.
@@Hannah4765 I just noticed too u got some good insight his voice always gives it away
Real life lizards can sense danger
@@Hannah4765 whenever the Goblin persona emerge in the 2002 Spider-Man film, it involves him asking a question. Back to formula? Out am I?
People seem to forget that the Green Goblin, outside of his battle suit and tech, is as strong as THE original Spiderman, and this scene shows it. Since Green Goblin is a super soldier in his own right, I wonder how he would fair against the original super soldier Captain America. Surely he doesn't have enough combat experience, but with strength level near or same as Spiderman he could've powered through Captain America like pre-rehabilitation Bucky. Hell, if fully suited, I think Green Goblin would even give the Mark 3 Palladium reactor Ironman a run for his money, since Ironman is just a rich boi in a suit, GG is a super soldier WITH a suit.
In the first Spider-Man movie, Green Goblin is able to hold an entire tram cab when he gives Spider-Man the "sadistic choice" to save MJ or let the kids die. That car on it's own is a couple tons and he held that with one hand.
I don't see how being as strong as Nicholas Hammond is anything to brag about.
why did you capitalize "the" instead of original
It's still a bit weird how fragile the building floors are though.
Spider man destroyed Green goblin once he went serious.
The goblin was easily the best part of this movie
Edit: loved the part where Conners came down and said “I TOLD YOU THERE’D BE CONSEQUENCES!”
Omg, I loved the Lizard run down the side of the building and toss Peter back through the window. So epic and surprising.
Agreed. Willem Dafoe was definitely having the time of his life acting in this film.
6:01 "I took the trash out, honey."
6:32 but it Didn’t Stay Out! So I THREW IT OUT AGAIN!!!😂
The tension build from Tom's spidey senses going off and no one knowing why, including him, at first was something Marvel really has never dabbled in. The idea of him knowing something is wrong, but not knowing what in a room full of villains felt like treading water with a thirty foot shark nearby. I loved the malaise you feel in that scene, and how Pete is looking at everyone and everyone is as scared and clueless as he is because they're afraid that he's afraid. The best utilization of the Spidey Sense in a Spiderman movie. There is no greater fear than seeing someone you look up to, trust, and feel protected by contort their face into fear in response to something they see that you can't. Then he shoots Norman and Goblin comes out, as if goblin was hiding in plain sight the entire time. Love that scene, Marvel needs to do more scenes like that.
Very well said man
If you pay attention, Otto also pick up on something being off with Norman.
Yea the spider sense is extremely under utilized in the franchise. This scene was extremely good.
To me it felt more like an observation then spider sense kicking in. Maybe I felt that way because of the lack of Utilization of the spider sense like you said.
Because if he was able to pick up Norma than he should’ve been able to pick up on electric wanting to steal that power core.
It just felt like Tom decided to accept his gut that something was wrong.
This is just my opinion and how I felt doing that sense.
@@whynot5568honestly Tom's spiderman actually has better use of spider sense than any other spider man movies had.
Especially after mysterio fight in FFH.
I dont know why but Goblin saying "Quiet lapdog" to doc ock always makes me laugh
so fucking happy they got to interact. i wish they somehow did in the raimi films but at least we finally got it
It's funny how neither Goblin or Doc Oc had any respect for each other despite the clear friendship between Norman and Otto.
In other words “silence bitch”
@@christianfrost8660Fake to each other in real forms, real to each other in Villian form 😂
@@KBlade1 They work well with one another because they share similar ideas about the world and how to 'fix' it. But they often fight because of their differences in thoughts at times as well.
Personally, I always thought the original Goblin was terrifying, and he really was shown then to push Spider-Man to his limits, when he was still green, however just like in that original Sam Raimi film, in this one we start to see Spider-Man not holding back and we start to see him physically growing stronger.
Goblin knows he can't take HIS Spider-Man, since by the end of it he is defeated and beaten up by Spider-Man, but he can definitely take THIS Spider-Man.
"Too weak to take it", that line always sends chills down my spine
No talks about this I think it’s a shame.
That james jonah jameson was once serving 10+ at maximum security prison level 4 and ran the aryan brotherhood. It’s kinda nice that he turned his life around.
2:35 is dare I say the best part of this whole scene. The way Willem slowly turns his head and starts to talk in his chilling goblin voice leaves you going OH CRAP HERE WE GO, and then the whole movie from that point forward just hits different in a dark way.
Really shows how much talent Dafoe has. There he is in nothing but a hobo coat, surrounded by a villains dressed to the nines in their best cgi…and with one single head turn he instantly becomes the scariest person in the room. I reckon even if you hadn’t seen the Raimi films and knew what was coming, the way he talks, moves and treats people is far more unsettling than anything else going on
They took the dark concept from the first 3 and put it in this one smh how can they outdo this one. Sam Raimi is a fucking Beast. Still hoping for Spiderman 4 with tobey
5:37 I can't get over how he throws Pete through a wall and instead of just hopping into the hallway, he boots the door off and makes his own entrance😂
HERE'S GOBBY!
I thought he actually just walked through the wall.
PRESENTATION
A room full of most Spider-Man's strongest villains and Goblin is still the most terrifying? Yep. This forever cements him as Spider-Man's arch nemesis.
This is the exact moment in the movie where I turned to my friends in the theatre and said "this is the greatest spider-man movie ever made". Everything after this just kept adding onto it.
at 4:00, just noticed that Green Goblin removed the web only with his one hand while Captain America needs Hawkeye to remove it for him in Civil War. Implying that Green Goblin's serum might be superior than the super soldier's.
If I remember correctly the serum gives an 800x boost compared to normal human limits but I could be wrong on the number
Correction: not 800x but 800% so only 8x. Regardless he should still be able to run caps fade
Might be? Goblin is far stronger than Cap lol.
From what I remember the goblin serum is better but it also obviously has the side effect of rage and insanity
Atleast Cap has his trusty shield against a force like him@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985
I love this scene. It's maybe the first time Peter is sensing something completely and utterly evil. Even Thanos had good intentions of a sort.
Astounding direction.
It's also Green Goblin at his most evil. In Spider-Man 1 he was mostly following Norman's dark desires to the extent that Norman was cleary cooperating with the Goblin. Here, their motives have COMPLETELY diverged with Norman existentially distressed and just wanting to go home, whereas the warrior Goblin wants to dominate new land. This effectively cuts Goblin off from the humanity still within Norman and allows him to fully unleash his malevolence on Peter.
Spider-Man 1 Goblin THREATENED to kill Aunt May and Mary Jane. In NWH, Goblin succeeded (although Andrew Peter intervened).
@@NotAGoodUsername360I totally agree!
It's such a cool little nod to how dangerous goblin is: he doesn't really HAVE motivations or any kind of drive.
He just TAKES, anything and everything he desires on pure impulse. No empathy, laughing in the chains of morality and sanity.
There is nothing more dangerous than that. Thanos can be reasoned with, the Vulture can be understood and Mysterio can be unmasked, but the Goblin is just pure insanity in a bottle.
@@MH3Raiser He's a Joker but with scary cunning, strength, and tech.
Thanos murdered millions of families. I am so sick of people defending it. Imagine a dictator came to your city and killed half of everyone there. Say you survive but you see your mom or dad get annihilated.
Willem Dafoe was maniacal in the first Spiderman movie. Here, he was straight up terrifying.
I love Connors’ line “And so it begins…”. Before Peter and the audience, he’s the one who knows things are about to go horribly wrong
It's scary how this version of the Goblin manages to beat a modern day Spider-Man.
Lol this spiderman was stark dependent. Its good to see him receive a beatdown.
@@Fantasticjabber Wishing harm on a hero? No. Rather, it’s good to see him grow and learn
@@aspiringlegend9514 He wasnt a hero tho. He was a pseudo trust fund child who had no sense of responsibility. His maternal figure and his friends are some of the worst characters one can write.
@@Fantasticjabberyou must be a fan of James Jonah Jameson
@@thefrenchfryguy9959 I am a fan of spider man
This is probably one of the most brutal fight scenes in the entire MCU. Defoe absolutely stole this movie!
Yup in a interview William defoe said he wasn’t gonna come back if they tried to water his character down and make him childish, all comedy like how they do the other mcu characters ‼️ they let him do his on thing and kept if rated r he literally tortured a teen killed his ant, played mind games with Peter, didn’t care about him being a kid, beat him horribly and kept it rated R … thank you William defoe for keeping it real and not letting the mcu and Kevin fiegee change your character 🤝
Ekaris vs makkari
Shuri vs namor
Guardians vs high evolutionary
Daredevil vs Nobu
Punisher vs Jigsaw
Daredevil vs Bullseye (cathedral)
@@BlackarooniTechnically not mcu. he means the movies
@@joelvalencia6738
Technically it is
I don't give a freak what Feige has to say
No wonder he fired his writers for the upcoming daredevil reboot cause he knew his ideas were piss poor
6:36 damn this fight made realise how strong Green Goblin was, the fact that he threw Peter through several floors just with little momentum is insane
The DAFOE BOMB is no joke!🔥
Obviously, what provoked Norman's "Green Goblin" persona to resurface was Doc Ock mentioning the prospect of becoming whole again should the experiment succeed. You could tell when Norman's posture stiffened up, repeating "Whole" in a dead monotone that it started creeping back in. Setting Peter's Spider Sense afire.
It’s hella crazy to see Willem Dafoe as Goblin without his mask. The only time we had a scene like that was that part with the mirror in the original movie.
Played Life is strange much?)
@@nikitahatamov4312 Because I said hella? Chloe is not the first person to ever use that word.
@@spideyfan1278 haha,so you did?)
And i know she is not a first,Rachel is)
@@nikitahatamov4312 looks like someone also played before the storm.
@@spideyfan1278 sure did)
The fact that May was burning Sage in 2:10 is also a nice occult touch. Sage is used in occult to draw out and expose evil spirits... and The Goblin… metaphorically speaking…is an evil spirit inhabiting Norman's body.
Fun fact. It brings demons for sure
He's not an evil spirit though- it's an alternate personality that was brought on by the serum that Norman ingested in Spider-Man 1!
@BigAlvideos101 I believe it's just a symbolic touch not literal.
@@BigAlvideos101 Not literally, but in some (bad) modern comics, they made the goblin personality an actual devil possessing Osborn.
@@BigAlvideos101metaphors go over your head, huh?
5:45 my god the way Dafoe said "To weak to take it" chef's fucking kiss
Not even the best thing about this scene, but I love that that finally really went all in the Green Goblins Super Soldier serum thing. He's not just an asshole, he's an incredibly enhanced asshole. He absolutely tossed spiderman around and through walls. While he wasn't weak in the Raimi movie, he never felt like a physical force. But here it's put clearly on display. Particularly because by this point, we have a much clearer picture of how powerful Holland's spiderman is.
I love how spider sense is demons y all three Spider-Men in the movies. Tobey’s appears to be instant detection. Andrew’s appeared to be more of a reactive reflex, and Tom’s appeared to seemed to be directionary of the danger.
Well said
"is demons y all "? Is this typo?
I agree. While both spider-men spider sense are generally the same, they both somewhat have unique function based on how they are used by their users.
Andrew's seems like it detects dangerous situations (it notifies him that bystanders are about to be electrified by metal railings, and it goes off as Gwen is falling), and Tom's seems to warn him about the alien spaceship in New York and the Goblin. Honestly Tom's seems the weakest in terms of instant detection, what with the Lizard attacking him with no warning from his sense whatsoever
@@cube7439 Well he's just been beaten half to death by the goblin so I'd imagine his body is extremely tired so his spider sense isn't working as well as it should, he sensed the personality change in goblin so his sense must be pretty strong normally
6:32 hands down the best fight moment in MCU history.
The grunt of a power lifter while performing a spine buster is incredible, the audience can feel the weight of the movement. 👏🏼
Saw the movie three times when it came out and every time the people in my theater went “DAMN”
Dude!! This is literally my favorite move in modern MCU!! GG tackled Spiderman into another dimension...
Seriously. Outside of the Netflix shows, this is one of the most weighty, best shot comic fight scenes in the MCU
Its def top 3. To me though, cap and the ws goin toe to toe in the middle of the street has yet to be topped. That and thanos getting jumped on titan.
Watching in theatres , it gave me chills when Goblin was smiling, and then the laugh ! Bruh this guy is definitely Spidey's greatest da-Foe
This is why green goblin is the most powerful and dangerous Spider-Man villain
Willam powerbombed and gave Tom a spine buster what an absolute legend
Batista bomb
Not Tom’s last spine buster 😳
@@THEK1NGSCLAN nooooo😭🤐 we gotta protect Tom I’m worried about bro
And he really did that shit too 😭😭 dude is mad
The direction of the Spider-sense sequence here rocks. The fact that the Goblin's presence is something so sinister and evil that it can be subconsciously picked up on enriches Dafoe's character so much.
I loved that about this scene, Goblin persona is so evil that Peter's senses went off and picked up on personality change. Also if you pay attention Otto also picked up on something being off about Norman. Also Goblin's theme for this scene is superb, it starts out quite (dormant but fully aware Goblin persona) and it becomes more louder, chaotic and darker as it goes, just as Goblin persona is taking over and demolishing Peter on screen.
This entire sequence is so well written, even the fighting scenes are near perfect.
Yes, I completely agree, especially when three Spider-Man are in the same frame, it is very shocking
William is not playing the green goblin. HE IS THE GREEN GOBLIN
1:39- 2:34 all this moment gives shaking chills, well in Peter's gaze, you can feel that he doesn't know where or who he feels the danger will come from.. the best scene of the spider sense I think.. The Goblin's entire monologue is chilling and shocking: "Gods do not have to choose, and these are not curses but gifts" yes, he made references to the other spiderman movies
This may just be my favorite fight scene in the entire MCU. The build-up, tension, and dialogue are great. It feels brutal without feeling tryhard. It has some of the most interesting shots and camera work specially for the cramped hallway scenes and going in and out of the building.
I agree!!
he's even more terrifying without the mask, Willem Dafoe really is the one and only Green Goblin, what an amazing performance
The green goblin voice 😩
This movie finally made justice to Willem Dafoe's amazing acting: his Green Goblin performance deserves no mask hindering it. Just a hood and goggles as it should've been since the first movie (maybe only adding pointed metal ears protruding from the hood to complete the look). He totally sells Goblin and Osbourne as totally different people, depicting pure raw madness and agression.
Aggression*
I like the mask, it actually has a purpose to conceal his identity
@@InitialPC I do understand the choice, however, Dafoe is almost another person altogether in Goblin mode. If we can buy into Robin's mask, we can buy into only goggles and a hood.
@@diogohenriquemagal6960I mean the original trilogy did an excellent replicating the comic characters up until they did movie 3 with venom. Dafoe in the Goblin suit was amazing
I actually really like the Goblin outfit in Spider-Man 1. I’d just make the mask/helmet smaller, and give it a less shiny, grittier look to the whole outfit, like Daredevils suit from the Netflix series. That would be perfect in my opinion. I dig the hoverboard too.
love that spinebuster on 6:33 textbook execution right there.
Bah god he was broken in half!
It's hard to belive that Willem Dafoe did all his own stunts in this movie, he's like 60 something.
Willem Dafoe deserves every bit of praise he’s gotten from his performance in this movie. The guy is an actual mad lad for doing his own stunts!
Willem Dafoe killed it then, back in 2002, and nearly 20 years later did it again without skipping a beat!
Facts dude never disappoints
4:14 I love how sandman just excuses himself from the situation 😂
My spidey senses are tingling
This is for you Stan Lee.
I love the part of this scene where Peter is trying to sense who the threat is. Like green goblin is such an overwhelming threat that it creates an aura where he’s making everything seem like a threat.
That's a really good point. The Goblin was such a huge threat that it kind of bled into the entire room and Peter couldn't even hone in on him until he closed his eyes and focused. I think this perfectly captures the idea that his senses are "dialed to 11".
It’s a throw back to the first Rami Spider-Man as well when Toby was in the crowd at the World Unity Day and he could sense danger coming but couldn’t understand where it was coming from. The Goblin has an aura of horror and destruction that’s really unmatched.
Few people also notice how Peter spasms at 5:39 because his Spider-Sense is so overloaded by Goblin's presence
*"Strong enough to have it all...Too weak to take it!"*
If you think about it, Norman is a super soldier. In the OG trilogy, Oscorp was developing the the enhancement serum and the glider/goblin suit. Peter had already "fought" two super soldiers, but neither were really trying to hurt him. Bucky punched him once and Steve dodge him. Fighting the Goblin, quickly realizing how strong he was, Peter tried to fight accordingly, only to find out he was the only one holding punches. Fighting the Goblin is like fighting an unhinged Winter Soldier, but worse.
I think goblin might be stronger
@@BigHaze322He is TRULY IS😊
Watch the final fight in Spider-Man 1. The movie never explained to us how long the Green Goblin was waiting for Spider-Man to come to the rescue. The Green Goblin was holding the wire to The Roosevelt Island Tramway ONE HANDED while holding on to Spider-Man's girl with the other😮
Tom Holland's Spider-Man has no idea what he's dealing with. Poor kid😅😅😅
Um no. The Green Goblin literally gave Peter a Spine buster so hard they went through several stories of solid concrete floors. Generating that much force from just a jump... I'm not sure if you realize this. But those floors could, and floors are designed to hold tens tons of weight and be structurally sound. To pile drive yourself and someone else through multiple of them, only being stopped by the ground floor, would require a force equal to HUNDREDS of tons. These two would tear Bucky and Cap apart
If you guys pay close attention at 2:21, Doc Oct knows Norman so well, he took a concerned look at him as Peter was sensing a great threat. Doc is so smart that he could pick up that his behavior starting acting different and probably started to assume it was the Goblin who is now in their presence as the threat knowing his personality can switch within secs.
You mean 2:19?
2:49 you can see and hear the fear from Peter when he says “the goblin…” which suggests while he doesn’t have a frame of reference he clearly gets that whatever the hell this guy is, he’s a very serious and terrifying threat…which he is. After watching all 3 Tobey mguire, Andrew Garfield, and Tom holland spider movies I feel I can safely say William Defoe’s green goblin is by far the most terrifying and evil threat to grace the big screen. Strong as hell, lethally cunning, and of course scary and evil as fuck. Even in the animated show way back when the only villain that kinda scared me to the same degree was Carnage.
Ever heard of Red Goblin?
Look him up.
@@arulrajasundar9420 that’s goblin + carnage right?
@@yugison64 yup
I love how they shot the Goblin reveal scene like a horror movie.
When Jamie Fox said “The hell” 😂😂
Willem Dafoe is THE guy! He was born to play this part.
This movie accomplished a huge mile stone that was never done in live action till now. They got Norman Osborn and Otto Octavious in the same room 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.
Dafoe legit gave me chills in this scene. Such an incredible actor.
I think this might be my favorite scene in the MCU? It starts of kinda wholesome with Otto and Norman, and then Max with Peter.
But the literal ticking time bomb sound and that slow ambient score is just telling you something is off. (I'm glad Lizard almost ruined it with that dumb line!)
And yeah that whole little sequence where his senses go off, but he doesn't know why. It's kinda sinister how the Goblin silently emerges, yet Peter can still sense the pure evil.
The following speech is fantastic and chilling, great writing and brilliant acting.
That backhand is fucking epic. And what follows is MAYBE the best fight scene in any of these films? I'd put it up there with Titan fight, Thanos v Trio and the highway fight in WS.
To me a fight like this is just more engaging and cool, where the powers are simple but you really feel every punch and slam.
They really made Goblin beast here as he should be.
I like seeing my hero get beaten to a pulp. It was awesome in the first Spider-man and it's awesome here.
I also like how "not" choregraphed it is? This feels like two people fighting, every move feels very natural and not too flashy, just really raw and brutal.
I can get a bit numb to action scenes like the Highway Fight because it doesn't look very real. Same when Thanos did the spinning blade thing in Endgame, that just became too silly. Because he is usually pretty "grounded" in the way he fights.
And yeah the clip that follows after this one is just as good.
Its weird that they took a pretty goofy, entertaining and memorable villian from a 20 year old film and not only improved and made him better, but like. He is one of the best villians in the MCU even with this little screen time.
I think this pairing of Goblin and Peter worked so well. We got a very naive and young Peter against the one foe who really just wants to torment him
He can make a great joker smiling while getting beatin lol
Peter just feeding Goblin punches and all he does is smile and laughs, then powerbombs spiderman through the floor. My goodness what a scene. Best spiderman movie ever made
Spider-Man: *is able to sense that Norman is evil for no reason*
Ghost Rider: yo stop stealing my powers kid
It's called Spidey senses
@@shreniksaha605 it makes willems goblin scarier since Peter sensed danger before he even did anything
@@gabrielacosta9470 exactly
Since Infinity War we already got a sense of how hyper-precognitive Tom's Spidey sense is. He could already feel something terrible was gonna happen like a good 10 seconds before he got dusted. So in this scene of NWH it would be like him sensing Green Goblin's first action, a good while before Norman fully slipped into the Goblin persona.
@@ieatchuall yes
This electro is so much better than the previous movie he was in. Not only the looks but his character
His purple hoodie gradually tearing away to give us a relatively faithful comic book Green Goblin outfit is spectacular.
5:55 It’s like “wipe that grin off your face”, but you can’t
0:12 That “Just me" is actually the beginning of the disaster😂😂😂
Willem Dafoe received a star on Hollywood recently. 👏 🎉. Genuinely happy for the man and his career.
I will never forget the cinema experience when the film entered this scene. The moment Otto spoke with Norman the entire atmosphere changed and you could feel a tonal shift. The slow crescendo with the spider sense revealing impending doom ... it was a genuine edge-of-your-seat moment! It was visually captured so well, and edited to perfection to allow the beat to slowly melt into the audience before the big bang. Impeccably crafted sequence!
Yeah! Well said! That's why we love cinema, perfectly crafted moments like these! It's so good! ^_^
If only Marvel did more cinema like this, you know....actually good cinema, not some crap they put out just to have more content.
I feel like this scene doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
Goblin is strong af-able to break thru cement. Can’t really blame him that he didn’t want to lose his god-like strength.
It's more than that, he had more to lose than any of the others he wouldn't exist any more.