ENTP Fears
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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ENTPs... fear...surely not?? Well you know...maybe just a little.
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Mature ENTPs are both intelligent and empathetic. They should be understood and recognized by the society.
ENxPs are really hated by xSxJs, Its a nonstop barrage of petty name calling that we could really live without.
I agree to some degree with the empathy part but entps should always think and not feel, a feeling personality type is useless
@@ethanknight8461 the feeling functions are still rational functions, but they are subject oriented rather than object oriented. This means thatactually it could be pretty useful and would totally fit the thinking locigal framework IF there is a goal to be achieved.
@@ethanknight8461 that's immature thinking, as an entp i've come to realize that feelings have their own place in the world. Yes, sometimes you need to turn them off for productivity and such, but they still do have their value and usefulness.
Nathan Diego maybe in love or happiness or etc but letting feelings take over a bad situation between you and somebody I’d rather think the situation then feel. Decision making should always be thinking and not feeling
one of my biggest fears is to be average, to not stand out, that’s really accurate, and I hate the thought of not being appreciated or admired for what I’m doing. I met this INTJ that stood out to me, ‘cause not only was he incredibly smart, but he admired me for my intelligence... he actually liked it, you know? I’m not superficially intelectual; I don’t have this intelectual appearance, so most people don’t realize how much I like being appreciated for my brain.
most people I know don’t give me the chance to talk about, like, cosmology and black holes or to debate edison and tesla... and intj did. he was confident and cool, but known to be a know it all, and I loved to be a know it all with him and be appreciated for that. I never quite understood what made me like him so much, but this video, unintentionally, made it so clear to me.
dude, do we live the same life?
Zachary h lol why?
My difference is that I KNOW I can string things together and understand better than most people, so I have no fear of being average because I'm not.
@@zacharyh1407 sammeee
I can relate to that. In the world of romantic relationships, I've found that there can also be danger in being attracted to people because they're attracted to us. While it's cool to intellectually impress people, I already know that I can if given the chance, so I can end up in a relationship with someone that I'm not actually attracted to (intellectually that is...;)). I dated a girl who asked me one night why I loved her. She was feeling insecure because she said she could list lots of reasons that she was attracted to me. It was a rough moment for me because I didn't know how to respond...crickets for like 10 seconds. I really did think I loved her, but I guess I didn't know why. We ended up breaking up not too long after that. After lots of reflection over the following days/months I realized that I liked her because she did what no one else had: encourage me to verbalize my ideas and thought processes and admire them. But, I now realize that I need to be with someone because of who they are, not just because they validated who I am.
Idk if that resonates with you, but I thought I'd share.
As an old ENTP , 74 years old, and having had many various creative careers, I have had to learn to restrain and focus energy into a single area, at least for a period of time, in order to actually get something done, rather than just think about getting various things done. The danger is in overvaluing thinking without real action.
I'm an ENTP and about to be 40. I am barely starting to harness the ability to focus on a project and see it through without getting distracted to the project's complete detriment.
@@ambertorres5358 I think becoming a well rounded person is important; I like options 😅 but likewise finding something that meets your strengths is much easier than trying to overcompensate you’re weakness’.
Example: I struggled in a typical 9-5 Bureaucratic job with lots of paper work. I hated it and did poorly.
Now, I work the same job but with 2nd/ 3rd shift hours that are more chaotic. Paper work is still there but I benefit from being able to use my bursts of energy. I love it and do well.
One illustration I found interesting was that a dam impedes the flow of a river, but it turns the water's power into electricity. The Art of Manliness has an article with a title like "Creativity Needs a Conduit."
I'm still young, I guess I have to start making actions. I can't even appreciate my efforts, I'm not getting anything done.
Yeah, following what you really want also makes it more likely that you fail and don't get it. I used to just keep every option open, but now I have decided to maybe follow just one path. That is very scary.
When he said that ENTP wonders talking about turning off their 'chameleoness,' I felt that on a soul level.
bruh
Yep. ENTP fascination, but we would never do it
yeah... my sister and mom are isfjs and i envy that they can do that. i want to badly but i cant
Yup it hurt!!
Facts. I wish I could pick a color
Debating is the fastest way of IMPROVING Yourself! We mainly START debates, because we want to improve our knowledge, opinions/views and spontaneity. (-ENTP(A))
Most accurate thing I’ve ever heard about ENTP (me) ha!
Rather than starting a debate it is more like, you just asked/argue about things, gets feedback and debate comes :^) so annoying because you cant hold it.
@@Rouen_HK right like you start a conversation because you just wanna talk because why wouldn't you want to talk and they say something that just brings you so many ideas you can't not push it further and eventually you disagree and if you do you have to throw arguments there and boom debate exists
Yes! Yes! Yes! My ex boyfriend used to do the most irritating thing that anyone could do to an ENTP. He would lay down in the middle of an argument and just say : Ok, I'm done, I'm tired. I was like, dude are you kidding me? Like, what am I suppose to do now? And that's how I got exclusive with Reddit 😂
Fulton Sheen wrote a book about the importance of debates
Has anyone else noticed that the main motivation in life, we get from curiosity and fear? Or is it just me?
can't agree more, man
When I was in my teens, I wondered why *swole* people were so happy.
Three-and-a-half years later, I think I got it figured.
Presently on a de-load week (a real plateau-breaker), and the lack of *pump* is starting to get me.
Fear keeps us alive and curiosity makes us grow and learn
It really js
Sounds like ADHD!
Ur like the only RUclipsr that likes us ENTP's lmao. They all think we're annoying and heartless. I actually really like being loved. I'd rather be loved than be feared XD
He lived with an ENTP for 4 years, a flatmate, and they are still friends, so he knows us very well 🤣
As an ENTP I’m def not scared of being disliked but I am uncomfortable w the idea of being unappreciated. I usually couldn’t care less of what others think of me or if the people I don’t really know or like, dislike me. But if a close friend starts acting unappreciative towards me I think that’s where I draw the line.
Same, when I’m in a relationship I always look for respect… and I think it’s related to that idea of appreciation.
ENTP here. Loved the video.
I hate the idea of being trapped to everyday life and order so much every time I go for a job interview and they tell me things that show I can stay in that job for like 10 years I scream on the inside because of how boring that sounds.
"Unappreciated" is soo true, I don't care if you dislike me, know the reason. I really want to say you nailed the part "they can keep up with them" OH DEAR THE PAIN.
I look at things 3 times to make sure I don't miss anything and there are still details I don't see.
"No honour" as you said we are very adaptable, everyone can be as adaptable but not everyone sees it. It's crazy how one person could be anyone believing in anything depending on the way they grew up so for me, I choose for a reason what I believe and why. What if one day I decide I don't give an f? That's scary. It would work for everyone but most people don't seem to question their beliefs. I love taking to people and learning about their beliefs and background to see what shaped them. Also it's insane to me how can you stand for something with your whole heart just because. Some times I have interest in them because I wonder how can they be so clueless living in a bubble, oopsie. Your speculation is a fact for me, I see it as the peak of adaptability.
Thank you for reading my long ass comment, I think feedback is important and also I love your channel. Now me shut up lol
Elena Kat inflexibility in values frustrates me to no end. If there’s a logical solution in front of you that hurts nothing and no one except a principle, it’s the worst kind of brick wall to hit up against.
I enjoyed your ted talk very much!! ~ Nathan
Yeah, I feel you. I hate the idea of being stuck in some boring, routine job and just being another cog in the machine.
I love all your comment and totally agree 😅
~ENTP
I found a way around that. So the thing I believe in is myself. And if I value myself so much then whatever current (not too long lasting) ideology I have must be strong enough to bear all and any scrutinization.
And as thing that attaches me to the world, is ambition. How far can I take myself in the world.
I am an ENTP. I once went for more than 2 years without opening any of my bank statements. I literally had no idea what was happening to my bank account. Also, most months, I only remember to pay my cellphone bill when they cancel the service.
wait a minute... are you... me?
The phone thing was happening to me too until I put in autopay
same. once every six months. i don't understand how people can pay so much for a mobile phone per month. My roommate pays 50 a month , and then complains about how expensive everything is. + its corona , you barely leave the house anyway?!
@@neki5526 My phone bill is a very reasonable price. I just forget / avoid paying.
you need someone to do it for you, like an infj or summit
I remember on the school bus in high school, I argued that water was a solid, just for fun almost. I ended up having some pretty good points.
Had me laughing
I argued that the earth was flat with some of my freinds and did technically win 😈
I argued on why HitIer was one of the greatest people in modern history, and is just a scapegoat, for my 10th English ASLs. I was the only person in my grade who got 20/20 in that subject!
That was also one of the only time's I got a 20/20!
Well if you'd ask me, H2O is water and every matter can be any of the common three states of matter. Solid being one of those states, means that water is a solid too and we just happened to give a different name to solid water. A matter changing into one of these states doesn't change the matter itself. Hence, ice and water are the same thing how frozen and liquid Helium are both the same thing as Helium gas
ENTP here. And I DO wish that I could pick a hill. There's something romantic about the whole affair. Whether they reasoned it out, or didn't. There's a certain admiration I have for stubborn people. I'll never be that person though. I'll either over-think the position, or flow with a position. And I agree most with the 'lack of options' fear. Anyone who understands claustrophobia can probably guess how it feels to pin us into an ever shrinking room of possibilities. I literally feel like I can't breath, and it's only metaphorical.
Niveous23 yes, Fi is either extremely exasperating or admirable. Sometimes both at the same time. But I’m definitely an opportunist who watches where the dice fall, lmao.
INTP here and I agree on the claustrophobia caused by an ever shrinking room of possibilities. That also seems to mirror the way TJ types approach problems. They try to seek out the one option/solution/strategy etc. and stick to it until they reached their end goal. An FJ or FP type can be quite rigid in their moral values because that´s the pattern (to view and judge and evaluate the world) that "feels" right to them beyond the need for a logical validation - so they stick to it until the end... on the hill. Hope that´s not too wrong, if so - please correct me - I´m feeling a bit under the weather since I have to wash my hands every ten minutes.
Interesting. Good to know you found that part accurate, it's been something I've speculated over but not sure whether it's true for the majority of ENTPs (and ESTPs) ~ Nathan
@@lovewho What I tried to say is that there could be a parallel between people with rigid values and rigid goal orientation - that these traits are somewhat linked. The undeveloped Fi in ENTPs and INTPs and their inferior Te could to some extent be mirrored by strong(er) Fi and Te in TJ - types. The thing that makes ENTPs go with the flow in moral and intellectual matters, also makes them less goal oriented.
@@lovewho Your videos are great. And I'm pretty new to the 16 types. If my niche personal experiences can help, I'm more than happy to.
As an ENTP, finding that hill is an awesome feeling, after years of searching. I specifically chose a career that requires me to have a vast pool of knowledge (So it never gets boring) and almost everything is up to debate (So it never gets dull), that being Economics.
Same but for sport sciences
ye, it's like philosophy + statistics. nice one!
Fun 👍🏼 I’m a doctor of physical therapy and a licensed electrician and I do sales, music, art and whatever else seems interesting on the side. I like talking to millionaires when I found them though because economics is constantly in flux!
Same, from a PR and translation student.
I blame curiosity for this, thought provoking but smart asses that's the role ENTPs tend to fall into
"thought provoking but smart asses" - love this quote ~ Nathan
@@lovewho thanks
Hi, Joel Nathan Henry, "thought provoking but smart asses"...who eat more cheese?
HostEric is livestreaming over on his archive channel, usually in the mornings.
He had technical issues with his primary channel.
Also the intelligent one, but constantly without a job 😂
@@vqeevapes3559 yeah lost a job twice over meltdowns and one other time after fainting braking some expensive products was working 12-hour shifts and learning at the same time (engineering)
I'm stupid when it comes to managing my life
I'm glad it makes you laugh I always try to put a smile on peoples faces
(being normal is not an easy task btw)...
Correct sir, taxes stress me the F out. Good report.
Amen to that, me and my ENTP friend just try filling out the forms but then give up and just order a pizza and watch tv ~ Nathan
“The audience is essential.”
Sounds egocentric, but then again, I remind myself that truth hurts ;-)
no, ur just a woman ;-)
You need your ego to survive. To say someone is egocentric is implying that being selfsacrificing is ideal. Either extreme is unhealthy, but what might seem extreme to you might be how they perform their best.
ross
How dare you assume that I’m a woman!!!
Lol just kidding
Micah Miranda
That’s right....but also in some instances, killing your ego for another person or for a goal is the necessary action. However, I’m an ENTP...so what are values to me ;-)
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Being suddenly thrust into chaos gives you perspective and distance. That sense of distance enhances the function of Ne and the decider/rational functions, sometimes providing sudden clarity about the meaning, structure, and function of a situation. ENTPs provoke chaotic situations because they know that they will outperform the other types in chaotic arenas.
I so much love that he directly starts explaining, no intro, no bullshit, just go!
you wouldn't believe how many of my therapy sessions in the past revolved around my desire (and inability) to "pick a color." learning about mbti and finding I am an ENTP helped me lean into this facet of myself and it's very reassuring (and fascinating and creepy) to listen to someone who understands that without knowing me
I owe a lot of my current success to my newfound ability to pick a color with lots of complimentary lighting options. we love extended metaphors here
I will believe any number you give about the therapy sessions, because I have the same inability (and experience(s) to prove it)
Yes, yes we do.
We sure do love extended metaphors :)
One of my favorite compliments to receive!
May I ask what this current success entails? I'm an ENTP looking for a new field of work
Insightful. Thank you. We are on a quest for truth, so we have to be detached, critical, rational observers. We can't allow ourselves to be influenced by dogma or limited by our own perceptions. But once we are on solid ground, we are inflexible.
I recently only got classified as an ENTP in my late 20s. And oh my goodness sir, I used to write love letters literally addressed to chaos and play out debates as poems in high school. I used the phrase "mental acrobatics" to name a hobby. And so much of it now makes sense. Thank you for this! Liked and subscribed.
The love of my life is an ENTP...omg he's a sexual beast and a poet all in one
Yes yes yes. In dark times I really wish I didn't need to have a reason for my preferences. It's feels.... Uncomfortable to just like/value something just because it 'feels right to me' because I need to be able to defend that preference with logic.... Because I'm usually poking at other people's lack of logic. Lmao! People who have lead Fi really are fascinating. I have an enfp friend and though we have so much in common we are also incredibly different in our approach to things though we aim for the same outcome which is very fun to analyze. I think as much as we fear that rigidity and structure it's a love/hate relationship because we need it if we are going to be able to perform at optimum level. Le sigh.
Guve this person money, guys! Buy a mug! Coffee makes mental acrobatics way more exciting!! 😉
Sexual beast, I wasn't expecting that 😂😂😂😂 but well, I agree
@@taydupreez8555 Im an XNFJ.. I never got why we fascinate your type
@@supercalifr lmao
Erin In Florida i never got why either. I think INTJ is a way better match. ENTPs would get tired of how emotional and sensitive INFJs can be. INTJs, on the other hand, can be just as rational as an ENTP and, in general, I think they compliment us better.
To me (intp), my main fear is to be with an entp !
They're smart enough to impress people, but in the long run they waste their time doing it and loose their talent/qualities.
Ok, i'm a bit jealous too because they are less serious/valuable/precise than their introvert counterpart, but are still better at dating/job interviews :P
Comparing INTPs and ENTPs is fascinating. So similar then with sudden dramatic differences ~ Nathan
I know intps who have learnt how to "fake" extraversion extremely well (well enough to convince me atleast, someone who likes to analyse every person I interact with and has been into mbti for years) and the rest of the world. If you can develop that skill you'll have the best of both worlds :) as an infp I have found having an extraversion facade that I can maintain for a limited amount of time, to be very useful
Aww, thanks for that back-handed love. :-P I honestly admire an INTPs patience to see something through. We really do struggle with that attention seeking. I think our type has a lot more growing up to do than other types, but we do mature....I promise. Just takes a few decades.
@@lovewho how does one know if one is a intp or entp? I took the test a few times and it's different every time
Less valuable. Bruh.
As an ENTP, I just relate too much with what you say: the fear of seeing doors closing (i never knew how to put words on it), and most importantly, you made me discovered why i was fascinated by some persons, because they are able (well, they don't know how to do the countrary, it's more like a "they have to" than a "they are able" to, but anyway) to, as you said, pick a color and stick with it, which most of us can't do. Also, you are right on the fact we fear about even ourselves can think about, as sometimes i don't even know what my opinion is, as I do so much the devil's advocate. Finally, i just don't know if we don't have an opinion, if we, deep inside, have an opinion but defend others, or if we have all opinions at the same time. Thank you for making me discover more about myself with this great vid :3
I do not require acknowledgment from strangers, but I do appreciate it from people who know me, when it is sincere.
These are so accurate and interesting! Your videos are incredibly well-researched, goodness.
This is really great to hear. Thank you! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho What type are you? I think this is spot on. You really understand us better than we do ourselves. I often feel like i want to understand how others perceive me but it is very hard too see oneself clearly. Or thats what it feels like to me. I can agree with everything you say in this video.
I have one ENTP friend, and she's all like "fuck the system", "oh, you want partake to this action/demonstration for this thing you might care about" "nah"... I can't wait for her to find her actually opinion XD
r u infj?
@@luvmangosubliminal2734 jep
I don’t think the thing with ENTPs atleast for me is not knowing what they believe it’s questioning things for others to help them realize that they need to see all sides before choosing a side which most people don’t do, and is what we do constantly in our brains. So we point out flaws in other peoples reasoning whether we agree with it or not to ensure they are considering all sides.
Are there ENTPs here who totally don't care about fashion but bummed that this year's Met Gala will not happen?
No, that's autistics. You're on the wrong channel, bro.
@@FartCakes but don't be bro
Judging from the thumbnail, they fear the Boogeyman.
Well yea... that too ~ Nathan
“ Who gives a fu- “love the censorship
Why thank you. Sometimes it's best to just be a polite British guy! ~ Nathan
"fear of being unappreciated. they need an audience. the audience is essential", i couldnt agree more. though i will admit i enjoy flaunting my intelligence and nerdiness, no question about it, i do like being appreciated for the times where i am trying to be appropriately smart in a situation and not be a know it all :/ i mean like- pfft that takes effort damn it 🙄 (half joke :> )
Since I was 8 or 9 I've developed a habit of reviewing details multiple times in forms, exams etc. But even after detailed revisting of such details I sometimes find very minute stupid mistakes but I remember writing them right.
It's annoying and frightening.
I always make sure I'm completely right.
ENTP: I feel like this dude's reading my mind rn
🤣 I love it. In my experience with ENTPs, they do hate being confined intellectually. I would also agree with your Chameleon Curiousity Theory, and go as far to say that may be another reason they are often compatible with INXJs. As fluid people, they are attracted and intrigued by those who do hold onto those kinds of values.
Also, nice note on their passion for free speach. I find that to be true as well. 🤣
Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan
Ne, Extraverted Intuition as explained by Carl Jung...
by C. G. Jung, M.D.
"Whereas true extraverted intuition has a characteristic resourcefulness, and a ‘ good nose ’
for every possibility in objective reality, this archaic, extra- verted intuition has an amazing flair for every ambiguous,
gloomy,
dirty, and dangerous possibility in the background of reality.
In the presence of this intuition the real and conscious intention of the object has no significance; it
will peer behind every possible archaic antecedent of such an intention.
It possesses, therefore, something dangerous, something actually undermining, which often stands in most vivid contrast to the gentle benevolence of conscious- ness. So long as the individual is not too aloof from
the object, the unconscious intuition effects a wholesome compensation to the rather fantastic and over credulous attitude of consciousness."
Ne as explained by an ENTP...
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
― Hunter S. Thompson, The Proud Highway: Saga of a Desperate Southern Gentleman, 1955-1967
I liked this video, Nathan of Love Who, almost as much as I 'Like' the ENTP's
and how do they DO that?
Man...few seconds in he's already exposing me. Speaking fax
Yeah, everything you just mentioned is pretty much very accurate. Im fascinated, honestly. immediately subscribed to your channel haha
As an ENTP I view FoS and the tolerance of opposing viewpoints (no matter how "offensive") to be an absolute necessity of a functioning and healthy society. Any legislation which proposes a slight reduction in such freedom should be met with the destruction and reimagination of all legislative bodies so that this sort of tyranny is less likely to prop up again in the future, even if it means violence.
ENTP here and I agree for the most part. I wouldn't necessarily say we fear being disliked. If we contribute something then yes, we want it to be recognized. However, if someone simply doesn't like me or my value added I could care less of their opinion. The fact that they gave feedback that they dislike me still shows they listened and recognized my input, therefore I walk away content.
@@Gsscvgggfdertfffhhjiuytdsss I meant if others do not like me I could care less. Meaning your opinion of calling me a narcissist is fine by my book. I know I am not and if you have come to ONE conclusion based off of ONE post that is your prerogative.
@@Gsscvgggfdertfffhhjiuytdsss No offense, but I am not going to debate with someone who self diagnosis's strangers with personality disorders. Especially off of one singular post. Have a nice day.
As an INTJ, I have a friend that’s an ENTP and I can only take them for so long before I’m like “okay, need a break from going in circles for the sake of it”.
As an INTJ, going in circles for the sake of mental sparring isn’t interesting after a certain point. Often I find they like to straddle the philosophical line and that’s fine but after a point it just comes off as wishy washy to an INTJ (and we’re anything but wishy washy when it comes to a point we’re trying to make).
We don’t ‘debate’ for debating sake like they do. And if we start to get the notion they’re just disagreeing to be contradictory with no real point or stance that will get on our nerves and I know for me I just mentally disengage as it being a waste of my time and mental energy. And INTJs *HATE* wasting our time and mental energy so I have to deal with them in doses.
Their need to be *seen* is just not an INTJs jam (we literally are the opposite in that respect we could care less to be seen) so it’s a little like grasping for ‘likes’ the way they go about it to me as an INTJ.
In general, I do think they’re a cool type but I will say as an INTJ we do have differences that require me to say bye for now...here and there.
We ENTPs tire people out easily. It's not easy to deal with us, especially when we're just 'in the moment'. Of course the point of the wishy washy stuff for us is exploration. We'll eventually find details if we circle back to the same point. It's the most whimsical thing about us. Everything else is fairly Machiavellian. Of course I'v chosen something, that's easy. It's almost too easy. I find that part boring. After a long while you see patterns, and can use intuitive and or logical short cuts to cull dozens of options. I think most people view options as a one and done deal. I view it more like a competition, with an open invite for new challengers. There's always a winner, but there's also always a usurper too. I think you getting distance is the smartest move. Even when we can understand a different types, that doesn't make them more enjoyable to be around. I really understand why people find us annoying, mean, rambley, ect....but it doesn't automatically change my persona. I'm still gonna be me, I may mute those qualities if I can sense it's driving another batty. But that's about it.
@@Niveous23 Some people choose a particular option (out of a given set) in the spur of the moment. Some make their choice based on traditional way of doing things. Some others choose a particular option out of the same set after careful deliberation and consideration. Those three are not the same. So, saying that choosing a given option is too easy is not a correct assessment. You have to know who is making the choice and why.
We don't debate "for no reason". We debate because we want you to prove us wrong. People beliefs are partially based on unconscious biases. If we see things that you can't(and we do), we need to make sure that you can justify your stance. If your belief stands up to scrutiny, then we might consider adopting your position. We will do more research to reload and make another pass at attempting to shoot your beliefs down. Nothing personal.
I couldn't finish reading your long detailed analysis (boring). Sorry- ENTP
Dawn Hodges...well that’s not surprising, but what *IS surprising* to me as an INTJ is that you somehow thought you were being ‘clever’ by saying how small of an attention span you ENTPs apparently have 🤷🏽♀️
And this ladies and gentlemen is why I (and I suspect many INTJs) have to take a break from ENTs (both P & J) in general because they always seem to think they’re more clever than they actually are 😏
I'm an ENTP and I've picked yellow as my favourite colour. My Pulp Fiction mug broke, and I'm not sure if I have any free will in this mug issue.
Fate is surely conspiring in this one... ~ Nathan
Le Pulp - Fiction mug...
SceaRd, classic! and I call it a Royale with cheese.
ENTP cliche': Do we really have free will to begin with?
@@phoenix5054 cliche
Yellow is my favorite color too!
When my friends get in a fight or my family I can usually see where they are coming from and kinda live through them for a little bit and usually solve the problem. To be able to switch perspectives so quickly is maybe a reason that we don't like to stay in one place physically and metaphorically, why should we learn one story when we can learn multiple.
As an ENTP, I resonate a lot with the description about the fascination with people who believe in things just because. Mainly I find this fascination in people with faith and religion. To completely go into a belief system or completely reject it, I can't do that. I would love to understand how that is possible. I end up being agnostic, open to whatever is or is not out there
very accurate... and helpful, thanks again! Suffocating feeling can appear when I seemingly lose options or need to do compulsory down-to-earth basic s.../things. Also, there's fear that I'm not aware of some very straightforward physical detail, so I usually call my friends to explain/show them what I want and ask them if I overlooked something obvious. (Once I was calling someone on my mobile phone, telling that I'm not sure I can call later since I don't find my phone...)
But the biggest fear is, what if I can't even stick to things that are important to me. There are times when I live by a different "code" than other times. Audience, also yes.
Glad you liked it, it's really nice to hear this feedback and useful insights! ~ Nathan
I’m an INFJ and my best friend is an ENTP :3 I swear, I think these people are fascinating
“And worry that they won’t ever stand for anything”
That hit home really hard. I keep on evolving, changing my perspectives and I can’t sit still, physically but especially mentally, I can’t settle for anything. I like it, but it makes me feel alien, and it makes it hard to stand for anything.
They stand for freedom of speech... (because they don’t shut up)
I died 😂
Love the closing statement. I have a question do ENTPs also sometimes, get tired of chaos. I am a freelance designer, and sometimes I get pretty annoyed if clients aren't communicating plans and deadlines. Having said that, I also hate having a routine on a day-to-day basis, but I do need a broad albeit loose plan for the month
The answer is yes! But only the chaos that come from outside that we didn't started!
Holy cannoli, I've always loved your videos but this one influenced my opinion about mbti more than maybe any other video I've seen so far... The thing is that I've been interested in mbti for close to 2 years now, but I've been struggling with typing myself, _a lot._ I blame the combination of my mental issues and all the (often contradictory) information online, but for the longest time I would always get INTJ, ENTP or ENTJ as a result (a bit absurd, I know, but I'm almost 50/50 on the J/P axis and only slightly extroverted). And if I go function by function, I relate to the descriptions of xNTJ's function stack way better. But then I see the descriptions of ENTPs as whole and... yep, I totally see the resemblance. And every single thing (not exaggerating) you said in this video really hit home for me.
That thing about being a chameleon - sometimes it feels like I'm a completely different person on/off work etc. And the thing about being scared of how far can you go in the (moral) adaptability - ever since I was a child I remember instinctively knowing that if I wanted to and the situation called for it, I could do almost anything, including some bad stuff, and that idea terrified me and made me extra careful in making sure that I never become an asshole. Damn... Sorry for venting, but this video is really some eye opening stuff for me.
So long story short, thanks for making me simultaneously more confused and clearer about mbti than ever, and giving me yet another thing to obsess over during this quarantine 👍
These are just stereotypes and don't necessarily reflect all ENTPs. If you want to really understand mbti and your type you need to become fully immersed in the cognitive functions and how they work in conjunction with each other.
@@micahgmiranda You're right, but this is exactly what has been the problem for me. When I go by functions, I see myself in the descriptions of xNTJ's function stack, but when I go by descriptions of the types as whole, ENTP starts seeming like a very close match. Example of what I mean - they say that Te users are more objective in their logic (duh...), are more likely to use facts and objectively true statements to support their arguments, are more efficiency oriented, and can become pretty blunt/bossy, always giving people practical advice on how to enhance life... whereas Ti goes deeper, cares about fewer topics, but is interested in mastering them + also mainly cares about what the user thinks of something, not what people in general think. When I think of my thought process here, especially compared to how my family members act, I fairly neatly match with the description of Te. Except... ENTPs use Ti and they aren't limited to a few areas of interest, quite the opposite, I would assume that as NTs, their advice will also be more practical than emotional, and since they crave the approval of others they will also at least somewhat care about efficiency...
This is what's tripping me up. I get that the functions always more or less balance each other out - Ne opens up more options for the more close-minded Ti, whereas Ni helps pick up the "right" pattern from the vast amount of various information that Te collects, etc. Doesn't that seem fairly similar at the end of the day? Or another conundrum - I show emotions easily, though humor, mimics, gestures, the tone of my voice etc. Yet I generally prefer my inner sense of morality over just shared values. _Aaand_ at the same time I'm a slut for praise and being valued by the group. What does that make me (besides insecure)? :D
I feel like in some ways, I'm almost _too_ immersed in functions nowadays, almost to the point of drowning...
Ok so I agree with the other commenter on this as well about looking deeply into the cognitive functions (which I know you clearly are doing!). I'm glad you found this helpful and I really hope it's helping you narrow down your type!! Self typing is very difficult indeed. Also... not to add more confusion to this but hopefully the next videos in the "xxxx Fears" series won't make you reconsider yet again ~ Nathan
@@qwertyCandy you've got some misinformation here. Let me break down the functions in the easier to understand way that objective personality uses:
N and S are Observers
this is only about absorbing information
T and F are Deciders
this is only about choosing what to do with that information
Ne and Se are Gathering
Ne is gathering ideas, Se is gathering facts
NI and SI are Organizing
Ni is organizing ideas, Si is organizing facts
Te and Fe are Tribe
Te is what works for others, Fe is how others feel
Ti and Fi are Self
Ti is your reasons, Fi is your values
N and S work in tandem, as do T and F
Ne and Ni are both N they still both exist simultaneously, but one is dominant
You can see here I have all these ideas(Ne) and I'm putting them into a list(Si)
This makes sense to me(Ti) and I'm explaining it to you because I want you to enjoy this knowledge(Fe)
I wasn't shure wether I was an INTP or an ENTP. But now I know that I'm an ENTP because all the things you said were true.
Glad we could help you narrow down your type! ~ Nathan
Same here. Yes, as I heard that a lot of INTPs are mistyped, so I followed the same path. I'm more likely an ENTP.
It was difficult for me to find that I'm neurotic ENTP more than INTP. Ne and Ti are strongest functions, and they are near equal, but my Fe is stronger than Si.
Thanks for the video! I’m an INTP, but I identified with the fascination for other people believing things “just because”. Can you do a comparison video of INTP/ENTP? I really enjoyed your commentary on how they tend to orient themselves towards each function. Thanks again!
Will do! ~ Nathan
Often I think I've mistyped myself with entj but after studying more on the mbti I noticed I'm more of an entp than entj, because of this I spent weeks in home scrutinizing on exactly what type I have, guess I didn't like being unauthentic. Now Im sure that my type is entp and this video relates to me more.
I believe that the fear of being disliked is tied to the fear of being limited. I try to keep everyone I come across happy, not because I care about them, but what they may be able to provide in the future. It's a form of keeping social options open. I also 100% agree with the performer theory. The irony of being a mental performer, at least in my experience, is that it's easy to confuse and push people away because of the mental gymnastics.
I really enjoyed Star Trek’s Kirk/Spock emotion/logic dichotomy at age 9. It’s looking like I am an ENTP. Although I do have principles that I would die for and I hope honour in that sense... Those principles hinge on logic and their predictive utility.
I would imagine Orwell was an ENTP.
Lol I love how u end each video with a parting phrase especially to make that type comfortable lol
Thank you for the video! INFP here and my boyfriend is ENTP. So we argue (he starts 99% of the arguments) and we debate then for 1 hour. It drains me but he loves debating. Whenevr I say something, 90% of the timing, he starts with, "no" - just for the sake of it and making me find arguments to prove him wrong. Also interesting time these days, I ve observed his behaviour and we dont manage lockdown the same way. I dont really care to stay at home as an INFP but he cannot stand it and what you described regarding the details on the tax thing is exactly true! We ecperienced it!
Thank you for this very good video!
Well... thank you for this very good comment! Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan
‘Prefer Flexible Danger’ ... my guy , you have my vote for President!!!!
You are exactly right about the not necessarily being liked part, however exactly you said it. When I was in school there was a person who admired my skill with words, bravado, etc. very much. They did not like me even a little bit. They enjoyed me and I enjoyed them and they would have gladly been my assistant in taking over the world and we both knew it, and we both knew it would be because they were under the impression that they could then kill me and take over after I'd done all the hard work and I was under the absolute certainty that they would be working harder and taking more of the blame for everything that happened that people didn't like and then I would "take over" and discard them, if taking over the world was something I wanted to do in the first place.I really miss that person. They really saw my potential and spurred me on to greater success.
The worst fears of each personality type! Cool concept! I think it can be useful to people who are unsure about their type. Fears and triggers can tell you a lot more about yourself than a generic type description.
As an ENTP I felt all of this too much but it reminded me of a government class I took in highschool where we were asked to argue our sides with the class on issues like gun control and abortion (weighty subjects for the 3rd day of class) and I chose a side I thought was right but after hearing both sides arguments I chose to argue the other side, not because I believed in it, but because the side I was on first didn't have an argument other than they thought it was right and everyone got mad at me because they knew I didn't even support my side but still won because their logic was so bad. I have a really hard time respecting other peoples opinions when there isn't any logic behind it, even if I agree with them. But anyways I got elected as Speaker of the House in our semester long simulation because of it.
Great summary of me... Now I need to understand how to bring the ENTJ in me out a bit more than the ENTP from time to time...
"Comfort in chaos", yeeeeas!! We operate well in the military and emergency medicine for that reason.
The ending was completely accurate for me, I decided out of nowhere that I was going to frequent catholic masses and pray sometimes after being 100% atheist for most of my life. I just wanted to feel how it was like to believe in God.
Have you ever read the book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist?" As an ENTP, I'm reading it and enjoying it.
As Entp matured women, I say many of these are divided in to immature and matured Entp.
1. I was a chameleon because I didn't accepte myself.
2. I like options because I was reacting instead of choosing what to react. There are options almost in everything.
3. Used to blend in and picking a color to survive. Now survive is not away to live life.
4. All 3 became less of Entp after self acceptance and emotional maturity.
5. Still want others to bounce my idea yet I also learn to talk to myself, write and to validate myself or look for other means of that.
6. I define and willing to redefine myself or existence so, now value is nothing but a standard society create.
I believe matured Entps have no fear at all, higher level of adaptability and effective logical reasoning, a best mine set.
That was... pretty damn accurate. Excellent video!!
Interesting. I've noticed most of the extraverts and certainly ENTPs are going a bit mad because of this isolation. Although ENTPs can be introverted in the sense of being able to tolerate alone time and focus in their caves and work on stuff for ages, that ability to interact and bounce off people is so essential for them ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Yes, that's also a very good observation, I only really noticed that a week or two ago! I managed to find a way to minimize that feeling by hanging out on vocal chat with people I know only from some streams, but I'm almost sure it's going to wear off as soon as the novelty of it will wear off too. Like, I knew hanging out with friends and family helped me get better, but I never realized how much I needed them and just enjoyed chatting with baristas. Thanks for the insight! :)
6:10 This is very true. I love characters, stories, and broad ideas. Especially characters who stand for something and have a certain scent, flavor, or color. And i mean that in the sense that they simple are something and ARE a specific way of life.
It is also true that i partially want to just be something without the endless abstraction. To just be a color and not think about it.
Speaking as an older ENTP, you kind of get over the fear of your brilliance not being appreciated in the same way the former athlete moves on (or doesn’t) after his or her body gives out and their athletic prowess is no longer appreciated. Then, you just fear death - or drink a lot.
Embrace the change I always say or in the current climate embrace the chaos. I find a strange comfort in change. When you mention a desire to pick a colour I agree. It would be nice to have identified a sole passion/interest. One that makes you want to dedicate your whole time/energy to. People who have managed that I find interesting.
The fascination with people who just believe in stuff, fantasising about being the same, knowing I’d tire of it. I’ve only noticed these things about myself recently and it’s like you’ve known me all my life. Finding some balance with that is why I think INTJs are the way to go (vs INFJs), unless you have the financial luxury of being a ceaseless identity reinventing artist.
Damn, you are brilliant. This entire breakdown is flawless.
Wow... I’m a big fan of getting compliments so thank you very much ~ Nathan
I have 6 scalps this year, for pitting my knowledge against those who dared challenge my reason. Unintentionally, at first, and then with galvanised certainty once I realised their measure. I can reflect on several all in moments, namely career wise, when I would not stand nor abide racism, bigotry, homophobia and managerial privilege. These were my hills, and I stood, to defend, to the last. Matters of honour, dignity and integrity are where my battle lines are drawn and when I change colour. All of a sudden people are looking at a very different and colourful predator. One that is versed in an ENTP lifestyle and one who is comfortable with their shadow self.
I subscribed just cause he said I could back out. I'll never leave you.
This is one of the more profound and insightful videos I've had the privilege of watching. I feel understood and I feel like I understand. Just thankyou.
That’s amazing to hear! Thank you for this comment ~ Nathan
Ouch. That "freedom of speech" part nailed me. XD
The war between scratching the itch to debate or be confrontational and to be liked and both being the most important thing at different times is a real issue. It is so hard. I am carefree and more likable around strangers. I love traveling for this. I start thinking too much and clam up around people I have to be nice all the time to for the sake of my kiddos. It wears me out to hold it all in. I try to be nice to all people but heaven help you in you are put on my indifference list. I find that Martial arts is a good outlet for me, specifically BJJ.
Haha, I love that last statement. . "And remember, when you click that subscribe button, you can back out at any time". I like your videos man, you really project a lot of accuracy about us that I never pay too much attention to. Keep em coming!
Why thank you... ~ Nathan
I often deliver my "A-Box, B-Box, C-Box Society" as apart of breaking paradigms ... along with "box 16C has to be checked" speech ... nice observation on your part that we pick apart systems. My fascination with the question "Why do you believe that?" cannot be understated ... well done Mr. ENTP observer.
I definitely relate to the fear of commitment, not just with my decisions and career choices (and all my choices... here's that logic as to why I'm single lol XD l^; ) but also with beliefs. I've always found it hard to maintain a strong opinion, that's probably why I prefer to interrogate others' so I can understand them and why they hold a particular view or what evidence they have to back it up.
In Machiavelli, the prince, it mentions people are drawn to leaders that pick a side and stick to it. I always find myself in the middle, seeing both sides of an issue to where picking a side doesn't even matter. I've been curious of picking a side just to learn how others may react to that and if Machiavelli is right. So yes your last though to a certain extent
Can’t wait for my mug to arrive!! 😎🥳
Most of these ENTP breakdowns are shallow and only serve as brief amusement but this is the first I've watched to actually increase my self-awareness. The fear yet desire to become rigid and principled and die on a hill. That's been the story of the last few years of my life. Very insightful.
This is the most eerily accurate description of my fears and my thought process. Your videos are extremely consistent, as well. I am now convinced you work for the NSA.
I love the fact that most of his videos on ENTP type which is a common thing between us, It makes him soo ENTP
The ENFP I know did overlook something like that on his taxes last year
Oops
For some reason, Entps are just my favourite type. Maybe because they´re good at things I´d wish to improve on? Hm. (Or maybe just because) Infp.
Dang you guys whipped up that new mug fast! I really like your choice.
Why thank you... we'll keep adding more and more overtime until as many people have a chance of liking at least one lol ~ Nathan
Great vid! also still waiting for an Enfp vid hahaha
Oh man I'm letting down out ENFPs!! Let me bump that up the list of videos ~ Nathan
„You can back out anytime” 😂😂👌 you crack me up Lol, love your vids
Haha yea, just trying to avoid making ENTPs feel tied down..that could end badly ~ Nathan
I need to send this to my bf. He is an infj, i'm an entp.
Ouch!
Wow that's very rare
@@shankruthsiva6254 nah, we seem to attract one another like moths to the flame. what's rare is when the relationship sticks. lol good luck to you both. if you give him enough space, and he understands how we like to troll, debate, and ramble......it'll be wonderful.
@@Niveous23 thank you :) though we have been best friends for going on 8 years now and even though our relationship has been turned into that of romance we still get along so so well
@@shankruthsiva6254 what is even more so is the fact that we are both atypical. We both have a passion to connect atypicals and neurotypicals in a way that doesn't lead to so many misunderstanding and social/sensory overload. He is doing that by becoming a lawyer, I'm doing that by becoming a psychometrist
That last line earned my subscription. I'm not sure if I've ever felt more seen.
I’m glad to hear it! If you want to go further down the rabbit hole then feel free to join me on the LoveWho discord server too! ~ Nathan
I use my fear of unknown unknowns and small details to fuel my Extrovertism. Like 'here's this small detail that I doubt any of you noticed, and the only reason I did is because I hate being caught off guard by them. Anyone want to debate or complain on how this detail is a complete pain, and an UN-necessary factor to this project?' -Entp
NOTHING makes me more angry than a small detail that is incredibly consequential. Usually it’s an administrative thing. So stupid, dictatorial, arbitrary, and completely unrelated to the overall value of something.
Exactly why I am extremely claustrophobic. First 10 seconds.....you really do get me and break it down so well. Thank you for helping my INTJ to understand me. Or at least try to.....
When you are of an age where you have tried most of the sets in your own particular Venn diagram, when you have been both Icarus and Einstein, life tends to become much simpler. It's as if the unnecessary is cut away and what remains is a mountain stream of clarity. Self-knowledge feels like religion for the irreligious. ENTPs do better with some years behind us. Greetings, All.
The thing about the bending of principles and not knowing what one may be capable of, very relatable for me, to the point I may be doing something deemed not appropriate to society but I do not notice till afterward, and that tax thing too I always get panic attacks when I have to file
I don't fear being trapped by structure. I just brake free from it if I don't like it. And I don't fear lack of options, because there are ALWAYS options ;)
Hahahaha!!!
It's so true.
I do see it as an optional extras rather than an essential thing!
Laughed harder than I have in a long time.
Wow.
It feels good.to.know that this is what I am.
And it's ok. And funny!
And if a small stupid box can destroy something.. change it.
Oh.
Wow
OMG! YOUR Genius Has The Audience Of This “ENTP" Genius. You Just Touched My BIGGEST FEAR! This Is Why I Put Myself Through Mind Experiments Where I Imagine Myself In the MOST Torturous Situations Because I WILL NEVER Like The Boot Of The One Who Oppresses Me. I can Make Anyone LOVE Me. It’s My Super Power! Like, You Have NO Idea! Knowing This About Myself I Am Highly Suspicious Of Myself That I Will Not Play devil’s Advocate To Release The Suffering Of Any Potential Oppressor. I’m 51 Years Young And You’re Such A Young Man. I Know You Have An ENT{ As A Room Mate Because I Do Mass Research Before I Form A Strong Oppinion. I’m So Highly Impressed With Your Keen Insight. Thank You For All The You’re Doing. It’s GOING TO Bring Us Al Together In The spirit Of Knowledge. This You Should Be Well Proud. Keep Up Your Powerful Impact Into the Depths Of The Human Psyche. I’d Love To Learn More About You. Like, How Can You Know Me So Well But I Am Figuting Out For Myself that it’s Truly 8 Different Brain Functions In 4 Parts Of The Brain. OK, I’ll Stop But I Don’t Wanna! lol
@Truth Seeker Ooooh! I’ll Have To Try That One. Hell Upon My Skin. My Daughter “ENFP" Says That I Shouldn’t Put Myself Through That. She Doesn’t Understand The Pain Of Being A Hypocrite Is Worse Than The Psychological Torture That I Put Myself Through To Test My Character. There Is Nothing More Important Than The TRUTH!
In GoT, Petr Baelish is the epitome of the ENTP. "Chaos is a ladder." and don't think we didn't see what you flashed up at 6:03.
Principles must be firm, but they must also be few. Lest they conflict.
Hahahaha! I literally hesitate when subscribing to any channel and in my head say to myself, "It's okay, I can always unsubscribe if it turns out this person is full of it." Thanks for this video!