"The hardcore players thought I was shitting on the casuals and the casuals thought I was shitting on the hardcore players, in reality I made the video cause I'm fucking stupid" is probably my second favourite Xeno quote right after "I'm a snowman and I'm in the grave" :^)
@@mosley3485 Was nice back in the day when WHM had Fluid Aura, you couldn't stun the mob after a set time, but you could ping him against a wall to stop the cast.
Susano gets alot if love simply for the fact that he's the only primal whose not a life and death situation.He has a solid base for everything,and the story implications are that he's best boi looking for a fun time. That and the Sword mechanic is amazing.
My brother asked me to play ff14 with him, when i reached lvl 50 he said i was ready to try one of the easiest primal extreme in the game(min lv and no-echo). It took me 2 days to learn how to tank, swap tank and rotation of the boss, one of the most satisfying boss fights in 25 years of playing mmorpg. btw, took me 5 days to beat him.
2 minutes in! I knew Titan EX is top tier. As a new player, I started enjoying boss fighting when I ran through the first 3 Primal Extremes (Ifrit, Garuda and Titan). Oh boy, multiple restarts until you learn each mechanic and boom!!! it's completed with you barely noticing the end.
Thordan, Ravana, Sephirot and Nidhogg. I really like the taste of Xeno when it comes to EX fights, music alone in those fights made them feel so cool. Also Thordan "limit brake" screen shatter = FF7 KotR nostalgia jizz in the pants no matter if it was EX or Normal mode.
Sephirot has a special place in my heart because he taught me how to tank properly, and also the straight up damage he did. Tank buster > IMMEDIATE HALF HP AOE > IMMEDIATE tankBuster > IMMEDIATE HP AOE. Like woaaaah xD
He left out a mech regarding Ifrit EX. The healer mech, where they had to separate, and the chains mechanic. Might of been first time we saw people chained together. I'd give it a B.
Really good! I will disagree with Suzaku though, although maybe I just enjoy rythem games more. The second phase was amazing, requiring good awareness of surroundings as well as the boss, and is one of the few fights where you had to watch the outside. Farm was pretty fun with the simon says and watching for the pull in or push out mechanic and the big dragon kick was pretty sweet. Also damage up for doing the intermission correctly, big damage. The fact that the get fucked mechanic was right at the start with the phoenix adds and not later on also meant you didn't have to do the entire fight then wipe to bullshit at the very end, as her simon says slowly gets layered with more stuff, it also never felt like you would just get fucked by something you didn't understand, plus it was hilarious to watch people with forced march run into explosions or off the platform.
E4S Titan if you think about it is a combination of Titan Ex and Sephirot Ex because in phase 2 you got that knockback from Sephirot and the arena cleaves.
I think this list is pretty legit. Personally loved Emerald Weapon even after the prog. Easy A. Ultima Weapon was the first EX for a lot of players and Aetheric Boom was the first time dealing with a late game insta wipe for many. I'd give it a B, at least. Great tier list though. 👌 Nidhogg was one of those encounters that required more than the average extreme. O10S ripped mechanics straight from it. Easy S.
Seiryu was one of the first EX trials I progged so I have very fond memories of it. Emerald Weapon was the first EX trial I progged in ShB and that fight can be erased from the game tyvm. Everything problematic that can happen with FF14's snapshot system was present in Emerald, it felt terrible. Felt like I was lagging my balls off during prog. I hate P2 to this day even if I can do it perfectly now, to me it just isn't fun with how delayed everything feels. And don't get me started on farm, that's a -1/10.
I'm not even a minute and a half in and OH MY GAWD Titan EX duty finder was an absolute fucking nightmare back in 2014. That fight really obliterated people, meanwhile I'm over here having an absolute blast whether we wipe or not.
Imagine a world, where they gave a new Odin, Variant throughout every expansion. Lvl 50 Odin S Shroud-ARR Lvl 60 Odin Dravania-HW Lvl 70 Odin Yanxia-SB Lvl 80 S Sharlayan super Crystal Hamlet Odin-Shb Lvl 90 Moonwalker EW Odin. (Quick Edit) Lvl 100 God Odin
@@kingheenokgaming4783 my experience is the difficulty between minimum item level and sync with no echo is night a day. I had the same experience with sync no echo where we owned it easily. But on minimum item level you actually had to do the mechanics properly.
Synopsis - Heavensward brought the best mix of Primal Ex fights over the life of the expansion while Stormblood had the weakest. Honestly, that checks out.
lacking of a 5º rule: soundtrack Leviathan would raise at least tp C. PS: Previous comment was added at 13:00, BUT I am still bound to see if will it be retroactive.
I never played an mechanic mmo [played runescape alot back in the day] before coming to FFXIV, I did Titan Ex after two weeks into the game...did not go well the first time...But playing the fight out I felt I did learn alot from the fight and next time I went in was 1 of 3 people to not get knocked from platform the entire duty and it felt incredible clearing the fight after the 3rd or 4th pull with the 2nd group. Was the first time i felt so excited and hyped for a clear, Titan is rough but damn does it feel good to crush
Gotta say, for me, I can see the potential in WoL being a good fight, but my PF prog party killed my experience of it hard and I never returned to it, I decided to stick to Emerald and Diamond weapon which are honestly my 2 favourite EXs of Shb
One day I spent 3 hours in DF doing Titan Extreme, I had one OT basically call me incompetent just for trying to Tank Swap I had to exit game and touch grass
Hmm, great video. But one thing, personally i would prefer if you rank ARR primals first then HW so on so forth. Just so i could pause the vid before facing them and then resuming after i beat them hehehe
Funny how immediately in the first 2 choices i both agree and disagree with Xeno, Titan is definitely Tier S material or even higher, but i really disagree on how Leviathan is garbage, but then again not each fight is the same after all and that is one of this game strong points, i myself love to do roulette for Leviathan, but that is me, keep on strong Xeno!
@@untrustingstatue yeah and i get why someone can call it boring really, as someone once put it to me its more of a Reactive fight, so in my case its more of a personal bias butbi just really like Leviathan Ex, the music and running from each smash on the ship is fun
I think with rathalos ex it really depends on whether you are a monster hunter fan or not. Me I'm a big monster hunter fan and honestly I love ther fight.
Oh yeah Odin.. I did this fight with a friend on it's Patch Day.. we first try'd it! (we killed it on the First Pull) you know how sad it is seeing ppl wipe on this fight all these years later? oO
Great video, but trying to read the white chat text with that white background is going to make my eyes bleed lol. Great ratings and I agree with the cast majority of them!
Titan Ex was one of the hottest takes I have ever seen. I remember doing it back in the day and just about everyone I knew, even now, would put him in that D tier. Like sure, prog was good and had fair mechanics but it wasn't fun and the farm was non existent. At least it wasn't as bad as Striking Tree. Now that was not fun at all. It's also amusing to see Xeno talk about outdated expansion content like he was there.
Titan was really good, but man it's a stretch to put it S tier and it's a massive stretch to say maybe the best trial in the game. I was there for it on launch and ye it was the shit but I really feel Thordian, Shinryu, Ravana, Emerald, Diamond and Hades were all much better fights, in terms of mechanics and spectacle, I will concede that titan is the hardest primal we have ever had on release
"The hardcore players thought I was shitting on the casuals and the casuals thought I was shitting on the hardcore players, in reality I made the video cause I'm fucking stupid" is probably my second favourite Xeno quote right after "I'm a snowman and I'm in the grave" :^)
The editor is top tier! The video flows naturally and the music for each primal at the background.
I wiped on Leviathan extreme for an hour in duty finder because nobody would help me kill the add that fears you. Good times honestly.
@@mosley3485 Was nice back in the day when WHM had Fluid Aura, you couldn't stun the mob after a set time, but you could ping him against a wall to stop the cast.
Susano gets alot if love simply for the fact that he's the only primal whose not a life and death situation.He has a solid base for everything,and the story implications are that he's best boi looking for a fun time.
That and the Sword mechanic is amazing.
true. The dude is just a more normal and chill version of Zenos. If only he wasn't a primal ;-;
Very true and for me he was a good entry level fight for doing extremes on release, that's when I decided to give up to date extremes and savage a go
"Yo, you brought the relics of your enemies together and called me forth? SICK, let's fight!"
Titan Ex was one hell of a fight. Solo-healing it felt like an actual accomplishment. Wouldn't trade a single run.
My brother asked me to play ff14 with him, when i reached lvl 50 he said i was ready to try one of the easiest primal extreme in the game(min lv and no-echo). It took me 2 days to learn how to tank, swap tank and rotation of the boss, one of the most satisfying boss fights in 25 years of playing mmorpg.
btw, took me 5 days to beat him.
2 minutes in! I knew Titan EX is top tier. As a new player, I started enjoying boss fighting when I ran through the first 3 Primal Extremes (Ifrit, Garuda and Titan). Oh boy, multiple restarts until you learn each mechanic and boom!!! it's completed with you barely noticing the end.
Xeno talks so highly of the titan fights because they make him rock hard.
Thordan, Ravana, Sephirot and Nidhogg. I really like the taste of Xeno when it comes to EX fights, music alone in those fights made them feel so cool. Also Thordan "limit brake" screen shatter = FF7 KotR nostalgia jizz in the pants no matter if it was EX or Normal mode.
Im commenting this 7 mins in and you better have thordan on S tier that fight was therapy after gordias cbt
GOOD MAN THATS ALL I NEED TO HEAR. Banger fight.
Im gonna fuckin nut when thordan unreal exists
@@SirBlacknoiseIII I'm gonna fucking nut when Thordan ULTIMATE comes out in 6.1
@@FatalFatalisFtFts everybody gangsta under turbo thordan begins casting heavensward dozen
@@FatalFatalisFtFts thordan is going to be in the dragonsong ultimate raid??? Dear god…
@@Chibipayne we only saw one image and it was the vault with all 3 bosses at the same time and the archbishop in the background, so he is 99% in
Sephirot has a special place in my heart because he taught me how to tank properly, and also the straight up damage he did. Tank buster > IMMEDIATE HALF HP AOE > IMMEDIATE tankBuster > IMMEDIATE HP AOE. Like woaaaah xD
He was my static's first "get good" fight, before we ever touched Savage.
Susano was what made me fall in love with Primal farming. It's S rank in my heart lol
What Angel Wakes Me is a bop. I still wanna do Ravana with min ilvl and silenced echo. That looks so fun to do.
I feel Titan, Thordan, and WoL should have been SS tier.
Seat of Sacrifice EX I think nailed the balance between random orders and dance fights. It was so satisfying to prog, and still cool to come back to.
Really glad I found your content. Being newer to mmo's and tanking you've made it easier
Warrior of light was my first ex trial I progged on release day it was fucking amazing and will always be the best ex trial in my eyes.
Anyone know the name of the Arm Guards, and the shoes he’s wearing In the screenshot? 24:57
I just started doing the Extreme trials this weekend! Level 58 Dragoon and MAN Titan and Ifrit were RAD!
Susano is an S in my heart
He left out a mech regarding Ifrit EX. The healer mech, where they had to separate, and the chains mechanic. Might of been first time we saw people chained together. I'd give it a B.
Really good! I will disagree with Suzaku though, although maybe I just enjoy rythem games more. The second phase was amazing, requiring good awareness of surroundings as well as the boss, and is one of the few fights where you had to watch the outside. Farm was pretty fun with the simon says and watching for the pull in or push out mechanic and the big dragon kick was pretty sweet. Also damage up for doing the intermission correctly, big damage.
The fact that the get fucked mechanic was right at the start with the phoenix adds and not later on also meant you didn't have to do the entire fight then wipe to bullshit at the very end, as her simon says slowly gets layered with more stuff, it also never felt like you would just get fucked by something you didn't understand, plus it was hilarious to watch people with forced march run into explosions or off the platform.
Third!!. Hit that like immediately.
I like how it plays the music of the individual fights. Leo is a total legend.
Your skip soar video just found me my old ffxi raid leader Ellatrix I think. Kinda hilarious.
the editor is top-notch, great video.
Odin Tank buster did have a cast bar, he just used it lots so Tanks that didn't swap ran out of CD's.
I wonder if he'll make a Savage Tier List from 2.0 to now. It would be like an hour long video for the laughs
16:50 shit he knows the secret strat for that phase.
Titan EX: If you can dodge a wrench, then you can dodge a ball
this whole vid had me rollin'! Thx Xeno!
26:47 sounds like a sfx from a smash game
Your editor is cracked out of their mind. Good content.
E4S Titan if you think about it is a combination of Titan Ex and Sephirot Ex because in phase 2 you got that knockback from Sephirot and the arena cleaves.
That knockback isn't just from Sephirot lol every fucking boss uses it now
@@ember-evergarden but ask yourself this which fight did that knockback come from originally? Exactlty. Proved my point.
I think this list is pretty legit. Personally loved Emerald Weapon even after the prog. Easy A. Ultima Weapon was the first EX for a lot of players and Aetheric Boom was the first time dealing with a late game insta wipe for many. I'd give it a B, at least. Great tier list though. 👌 Nidhogg was one of those encounters that required more than the average extreme. O10S ripped mechanics straight from it. Easy S.
Ravana in S Tier... My homie. I knew I liked this dude...
Seiryu was one of the first EX trials I progged so I have very fond memories of it. Emerald Weapon was the first EX trial I progged in ShB and that fight can be erased from the game tyvm. Everything problematic that can happen with FF14's snapshot system was present in Emerald, it felt terrible. Felt like I was lagging my balls off during prog. I hate P2 to this day even if I can do it perfectly now, to me it just isn't fun with how delayed everything feels. And don't get me started on farm, that's a -1/10.
He gets extra points from me for watching that Chrono Cross charity speed run
I like how the music changes when he goes through each primal
3:33 he said it pog
I'm not even a minute and a half in and OH MY GAWD Titan EX duty finder was an absolute fucking nightmare back in 2014. That fight really obliterated people, meanwhile I'm over here having an absolute blast whether we wipe or not.
I literally just searched this again cause I wanna listen to Xeno singing Moogle Mogg
Imagine a world, where they gave a new Odin, Variant throughout every expansion.
Lvl 50 Odin S Shroud-ARR
Lvl 60 Odin Dravania-HW
Lvl 70 Odin Yanxia-SB
Lvl 80 S Sharlayan super Crystal Hamlet Odin-Shb
Lvl 90 Moonwalker EW Odin.
(Quick Edit)
Lvl 100 God Odin
My FC loved farming Leviathan Ex. It's cool how we all like different fights. We liked Bismarck and Leviathan. :)
I did bismark Ex for the first time last week. He died so fast on first try it was a joke (duty finder team)
Was it minimum item level no echo?
@@nytemyst was synced with duty finder and we won the first time so yeah no echo.
Bismarck is just a joke tbh its so boring.....
@@kingheenokgaming4783 my experience is the difficulty between minimum item level and sync with no echo is night a day. I had the same experience with sync no echo where we owned it easily. But on minimum item level you actually had to do the mechanics properly.
Anyone notice the "xeno strat" at 4:02 ?
What I got from the first 2 minutes is that titan ex should be the real tutorial xD
Synopsis - Heavensward brought the best mix of Primal Ex fights over the life of the expansion while Stormblood had the weakest.
Honestly, that checks out.
Stormblood trials were vastly superior to both ARR and ShB. Only good trial in ShB was WoL, the weapons are total tash
lacking of a 5º rule: soundtrack
Leviathan would raise at least tp C.
PS: Previous comment was added at 13:00, BUT I am still bound to see if will it be retroactive.
When our group cleared Sophia ex on Mine I think we had 20 deaths on that kill. Super forgiving fight with the resable players
Anyone know what's newly solo unsync capable now that 6.05 LVL 90 ILVL 605 (apparently) is a thing?
I never played an mechanic mmo [played runescape alot back in the day] before coming to FFXIV, I did Titan Ex after two weeks into the game...did not go well the first time...But playing the fight out I felt I did learn alot from the fight and next time I went in was 1 of 3 people to not get knocked from platform the entire duty and it felt incredible clearing the fight after the 3rd or 4th pull with the 2nd group. Was the first time i felt so excited and hyped for a clear, Titan is rough but damn does it feel good to crush
Gotta say, for me, I can see the potential in WoL being a good fight, but my PF prog party killed my experience of it hard and I never returned to it, I decided to stick to Emerald and Diamond weapon which are honestly my 2 favourite EXs of Shb
Lmaoooo!! That intro clip. Perfect.
I feel like every other fight they've ever designed was only vaguely trying to live up to Titan's level of quality.
I love everything about this list
People already posted, by I must enfatize... Nice job with the background music
Editor peepoClap
Titan Extreme is the initiation fight to know if you're ready.
Didn't Thordan also have a lot of downtime? In regards to the ranking of Hades?
One day I spent 3 hours in DF doing Titan Extreme, I had one OT basically call me incompetent just for trying to Tank Swap I had to exit game and touch grass
Pretty solid list.
People still wipe on Titan HM!! I agree it’s the toughest primal extreme ever!
Hmm, great video. But one thing, personally i would prefer if you rank ARR primals first then HW so on so forth. Just so i could pause the vid before facing them and then resuming after i beat them hehehe
I would've split each expansion with sequential cutouts into 3 vids, but this 30 min vid is fine
I dunno why we stretched a two minute video. Titan Extreme. Enough said. :3
Edit: We played Zurvan Manmode. Okay, I see
Just the Titan music make me smile.
liked at 0:58 Bow down Overdweller!
Vaunthry got recognized once in his life
No lie I love your rants and your opinion you always have me dying laughing Xeno!! 😂🤣
Playing the ddr phase on Suzaku with high ping wanna make me pull my hair.
What the fuck was wrong with stormblood that all the fights were like that
Funny how immediately in the first 2 choices i both agree and disagree with Xeno, Titan is definitely Tier S material or even higher, but i really disagree on how Leviathan is garbage, but then again not each fight is the same after all and that is one of this game strong points, i myself love to do roulette for Leviathan, but that is me, keep on strong Xeno!
@@untrustingstatue yeah and i get why someone can call it boring really, as someone once put it to me its more of a Reactive fight, so in my case its more of a personal bias butbi just really like Leviathan Ex, the music and running from each smash on the ship is fun
I living dead a 24 raid like that once...
I'm so happy I was able to tune out most of Titania's theme except for that bassline. Mmm, yes.
The only thing interesting about King Mog is that they stole the theme from Nightmare before Christmas (This is Halloween)
What's the rp stuff in tsukyomi
The fabled 20 second Hallowed Ground. See, the Mentors were right!
I feel like music is important, for first time experience as well as farm.
I have been enjoying hades music dope, mechanics are good for a warm up and fun teaching new players.. to me it is good.
I think with rathalos ex it really depends on whether you are a monster hunter fan or not. Me I'm a big monster hunter fan and honestly I love ther fight.
how do you folow a player in the game? /follow?
Xenos looks like a skinny Drak without the beard.
Oh yeah Odin.. I did this fight with a friend on it's Patch Day.. we first try'd it! (we killed it on the First Pull)
you know how sad it is seeing ppl wipe on this fight all these years later? oO
Based on how bad I am I see my sweet spot is the B to D region.
WoL better be at least an A. Expecting to see Suzaku with a D at highest.
Edit- S class EZ Clap and WTF for Suzaku
Cool list, but i would change innocence and titania, Titania is A and Innocence B.
Great video, but trying to read the white chat text with that white background is going to make my eyes bleed lol. Great ratings and I agree with the cast majority of them!
Good list
as a drg i have a hate and love relationship with titan
susano not being in S is a travesty
5th should've been the Music
edit, ok he added it :D
that 8 tank Zurvan video tho, Hardcore level of shitposting *chef kiss*
Titan is actually really cool
i liked leviathan xD but im a pirate nerd and the music was amazing. and watchin people fall in the water was funny
Shiva only in B, for the soundtracks and the phase transition alone I did this fight with the duty finder with a group instead of solo unsync farming.
Who remembers when people were getting confused on purpose to pad their DPS for FFLogs? 😂
he forgot to add music to his list of reasons for them to be good nvm he added music later on
Titan Ex was one of the hottest takes I have ever seen. I remember doing it back in the day and just about everyone I knew, even now, would put him in that D tier. Like sure, prog was good and had fair mechanics but it wasn't fun and the farm was non existent. At least it wasn't as bad as Striking Tree. Now that was not fun at all. It's also amusing to see Xeno talk about outdated expansion content like he was there.
Titan was really good, but man it's a stretch to put it S tier and it's a massive stretch to say maybe the best trial in the game. I was there for it on launch and ye it was the shit but I really feel Thordian, Shinryu, Ravana, Emerald, Diamond and Hades were all much better fights, in terms of mechanics and spectacle, I will concede that titan is the hardest primal we have ever had on release
You know stormblood was bad when there's no SB primal until B tier
Hades and Shinryu always be SS for me
Puts Titan EX instantly in S, fastest like and sub of my life