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Biniam Girmay FURIOUS with Jasper Philipsen after this Move | Tour de France 2023 Stage 7
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2023
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Honestly, they need to rethink sprinting rules or at least enforce the ones already existing. Of the 3 wins, there were 2 where the guy arguably cut of other riders, and 1 where his lead-out was relegated. This is getting dangerous.
Agreed 100%!
Jaspersen shoulda been DNFd on top of this, two extreamly dangerous sprints. No spine from organisers.
Yeah, a rule is a rule, but they aren't enforcing it at all. At this point Philipsen knows he can get away with it every time. It wasn't even remotely subtle this time. He went all the way across the road diagonally until he had Bini against the barrier. He's going to keep using it till someone gets sent to the hospital.
@@gregmuon stop whining
@@dankrogholm9774 this is how they have been sprinting since the begin of the time. ur escape goating an individual rather than attacking the industry that is promoting these behaviours. contrary to popular belief, philipsen isn't getting penalised, not cos uci doesn't have balls or uci favours alpecin or philipsen. it's cos, if they act on philipsen, that would mean they would have to apply the same rules for every one else and take action. that would create disruption in every single race, meaning every race u might have the race winner relegated, that looks bad for publicity. dirty riding is what alaphilipe and evenepoel does, reckless/endangering riders is what groenewegen did. philipsen's just hovering that limit but hasn't crossed it yet.
It's almost exactly what he did to Wout in Stage 3 -- he starts his sprint in the middle of the road and just goes diagonally to slam the door on Girmay. I don't know why they let him do that.
cos everyone does it.
@@sudsehun76yup. And cav in his prime did it too. Never got called on it. Heck he came up outside Sagan, who was way ahead, bumped him, Sagan reacted and got DQd.
@@sudsehun76which would be fine if there wasn't a rule against it AND the uci weren't "trying to keep riders safe"
It's the inconsistency that irks everyone. Early 2000s? Shut a door fair game. Now they're worried about crashing and injuries so they say. But they don't do anything unless its irrelevant or someone gets hurt. Jasper will get relegated for pushing someone to the boards when it's too late and they crash and a bunch of riders get hurt. So much for being preventive.
he looks for bini and keeps moving to the right......thats proposital.
@@chriswitek9455 what jasper is doing isn't extreme compared to what others have been doiing. that's my point. jasper and caleb are lightweights compared to other sprinters and they usually are the victim of the system. ppl are talking like jasper can overpower other sprinters who are substantially heavier built than he is.
JP will keep using the whole road as his sprint line because the judges keep allowing it. they really are worthless.
Someone need to knock his tire and he will know not to do it
If the relagate JP Cav gets the win. I dont think they want Cav to break the record so they look the other way again on an obvious deviation.
@@carbonking53don’t think Cav wants to win that way but jasper the disaster is very apt
I have said that Jasper and the rest of alpecin should get dq after all the crap they are doing. I am sacred for the health of other riders. Ofcourse there will be dangerous situations in a race but Jasper and co is on another level
The only conclusion I can make is that the judges are okay with more crashes because crashes generate publicly
Jasper pushed Pedersen to the left barriers and Girmay to the right barriers all in a matter of 3-5 seconds, very dangerous.
Exatamente. O Fabio Jakobsen que o diga 😢
He’s riding so recklessly without any regard for safety, and he will keep getting away with it as long as he wins and no one crashes
Yes i agree you how can he won in this conditions??? He must have been disqualified. Philispen as we can see in this video is a cheating guy nothing more nothing less.
Poor Tour de France if that guy can won like this... If he need this to win it's because he can't win by his own legally?
Exactly. It shows that it didn’t happen in the heat of one sprint but that he is doing it on purpose. Only a matter of time something really bad happens.
JP is going to seriously crash someone before the end of the tour because no one's penalising him for these moves. It's really worrying. It's also crazy to me that he doesn't get called out for it on the TV coverage.
He already crashed Jakobson
@@rossage5 no, jakobsen touched his backwheel. jakobsen his own fault.
Total silence from the commentators about it. Really annoying, as it was purely obvious.
I completely agree with you .. I don’t call him fast sprinter like others say cus pushing ppl around to get your way , may be cav and bini were kind of threat for him yesterday .. maybe regardless he should regulated .
@@dreten000it wasn t Philipsen actually
Jasper has clearly blocked Bini???? This is very unfair.
The fact that Philipsen is getting away with blocking Bini is beyond comprehension
He had a block earlier too. Are the refs being paid off or something? That’s an easy penalty
Jasper was in front of Bini so it was his wheel. It’s the same in all races
Jasper was in front of Bini so it was his wheel. It’s the same in all races 8:04
Officials just don't care about rider safety until someone ends up in a coma
If not racism what could it be cus this is blatantly mate … naaa If UCI can not see what we see it’s def racism sneaking in mate ..
Philipsen's 3 wins:
First one - deviates and pushes WVA into the barriers forcing him to pull off.
Second one - MVDP relegated for shoving Bini and launching JP
Third one - shoving Bini to get on Cavs wheel.
paris roubex john degenklob
That's called sprinting.... everybody should stop crying
@@RoaldvandenBerghenoh someone forgot a crash that got someone into hospital I guess 🤔
It's a shame. If he is not stoped soon, someone will end up in a hospital
@@RoaldvandenBerghen sprinting can be done safely. JP's moves have been unsafe that's the point.
Absolutely devastated for Cav… was screaming at the TV
Screaming LAHell
So was I, "Go, Go,Go" .they cross the line. "Oh Damn". but Cav looked great coming out of nowhere
Yep he should not have one win..well maybe just one!! The UCI is going to get someone hurt by not stopping them from doing this!
He had a mechanical, you could see it stall
@@DannyWhittingham-yk9oqYeah he even looked down at his bike at that exact moment too
Another dirty win.
Others may argue, it’s competition, a win is a win. But, respect and sportsmanship is earned. This move is the exact opposite.
Biniam was the winner today. Very upsetting. Proud to see our country at this stage. Eritrea🇪🇷
I'm glad you brought this up. I was watching and my first thought was that Philipsen would get relegated but he wasn't and I don't understand why the TV commentators didn't even mention it because it was so obvious!
Mechanical issue for Cav, he confirmed it in an interview. The gears were jumping, he had to sit down and then get up again, then they jumped again. Maybe he would have won, maybe he wouldn't...
ITV had Marcel Kittel commentating and in his opinion Cav would likely have won if he had not had that mechanical.
I think that he would have won. You could see him looking down at his drivetrain, and then he quickly lost his momentum.
@@epincion I THINK HE WAS SO FAST BECAUSE OF THE CANCELLARA CHANGE :-))
Of course he said he had a mechanical
@@Veloasiamaybe it's because it was true.
6:25 Cavendish hit a bump that he didn't expect. Great point. On other replays I didn't even notice that. That's why expert commentary is so useful. Merci.
watch well, Biniam hit the bump also
can we get a 1k where is no sleeping police man, curve, narrowed passage?
sad news, Cav is out with a collar bone issue
Guys, your covering of the Tour is absolute Pro level. Enjoy it every evening. Even though I try to watch as much as possible live :)
By purposely blocking Biniam against the wall, Philipsen is clearly admitting that Biniam is much better than him! He should be disqualified!!!
so wise
@@catosal0659 Philipsen is a coward rat
Very proud of BINI !!! He came all this way with limited facility.
He should be penalized. That was a clear nasty cut off. Clearly B.G. Had more legs than Phillipsen and Kav.
You can see Benyam going very hard but had to stop to avoid a crash.
When I saw that I was very upset 😠 😡
yeah true, it's not just bini going very hard, but it's phillipsen going out if his line, and nearly causing a crash of another rider, the only difference with this incident and the one where Sagan got DSQ from the TDF was that Sagan caused an actual crash, but this move didn't. this should be a DSQ for phillipsen 100%.
Bini lost cav's wheel. Jasper just slotted in.
@@worldcitizen9202 bini has to go right to avoid crashing. if he stays behind cav, jasper crashes into him.
Jasper did the same previously on the intermediate sprint. Was even clearer. A white stripe in the middle of the road he were and finished the sprint on the other side. Jasper is a very good sprinter but i'm not sure if he would have won three stages just sprinting on a stright line
@@yunghoene8753 no bottle no winning
Jasper closes off one guy on the far left side of the road, then jerks all the way across to close off Bini on the far right side. Other sprinters have to choose whether to back off or risk getting Fabio'd. This is dangerous. Alpecin going to get worse with this nonsense the longer they go with no real repercussions.
Cav went early but he kind of had no choice. Looked fast. With no lead out he has to get lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
Totally agree there should be yellow card
issued for dangerous riding or some warning.
I have written a mail to UCI, stating my concern for how sprinting is evolving on the biggest stage in the world. I hope as many as possible will do the same so we the fans can make a change for the safety of the riders. Maybe they wont listen to the teams but they will have to listen to the fans, the foundation of cycling, if enough do the same!
They don't have to listen to the fans at all. Their only debt is to their sponsors.
insane that he has got away with it twice, both times were so clear too. surprised rival teams haven't kicked up more of a fuss
If this kind of action is not corrected by UCI. We will see more dangerous action.
They want danger
It’s obvious they play poker with the rider’s life
UCI is a joke
Cav's gearing drops from the 11 into the 12 twice. The first time on that bump and the second just as he passes Philepsen. Gutted for him!
They need to get rid of the 12 speed garbage and go back to an eleven speed drivetrain. I've seen this 12 speed stuff fail on so many occasions and you just can't have that at pro level.
@@charlesmansplainingho even needs 12 speeds lmao. 10 speeds seems plenty to me.
Edit: my other bike is 11 and works fine as well of course.
@@Beau_Rivage I sure am glad I'm not forced to ride 12 speed. I ride 11 speed DA Di2 and it is great but I'm building a Centaur 10 speed bike with a groups I have never used, still new. And the bike will have rim brakes. I have grown tired of charging batteries too.
They all need single speeds! now that's fair!
Theres sprinting elbow to elbow shoulder to shoulder, theres blocking when your back wheel has space and theres chopping across the front wheel. That was a clear devation in the final sprint.
Tomorrow's stage is for bini mark my word!!
I don’t see how the jury relegates Skjeldmose on stage 2 and doesn’t apply their own hard line against Plillipsen on this stage.
I am not saying i think Phillipsen should be relegated today. I think the jury said it themselves by relagating Skjeldmose on stage 2.
I think what Phillipsen did today was more severe an offence than what Skjeldmose did on stage 2….
Very weird.
but he should be relegated, as he nearly caused the crash of another rider, and he went off of his line clearly, and from the left to the right.
@@michealissa1638they wont relegate him, they have mvdp pulling the sprinters 1.7km
@@michealissa1638 lol. No he didn’t.
Great coverage of the tour again this year gents. Class from you.
I nearly broke my Tv watching the end of that stage. It feels so cheap to spend 5 hours of your morning/day watching these races just to see a finish like this happen over and over again.
Damn, good footage, Cav came from miles back and got hindered but kept punching. I think everyone's rooting for him to get the record before retiring and I'm all for it!!
The fact that Philipsen is getting away with everything is just crazy. First the situation with Van Aert now with Bini.
Phillipsen will move as far to the right as possible to prevent a rider coming up on that side. He blocked Girmay, the same with Van Aert the other day. One could also claim he did the same on the left to Mads. Reminds me of Abdujaperov (sp), aka " Always crashes a lot" back in the '90's. Happy to see Mads get him today!
Look up Paris Roubaix 2023 Degenkolb crash, Phillipsen deviating to the right with MVDP in his wheel
@@richardmccaughey5928 Jasper almost looked downright angry that he only got to climb the podium for a green jersey....apparently dirty wins make him the happiest. I guess they don't call him Jasper the disaster for nothing, but apparently the commissaires aren't aware of that, or are too eager to give him the benefit of the doubt, and want to create "green jersey" heroes.
1000% racism in this case.
Sadly the only way the driving style of him could change or have consequences by now, is if other drivers went into suicide mode, too. Then there would have either been a crash or Philipsen wouldn´t have been able to get onto the wheel of Cav, as Girmay was already there.
Very Proud of Biniam for the Efforts!! A 3rd place finish, in spite of some questionable sprint tactics, where TDF directors seem to go with a "wait your turn", your time will come approach. I'm also checking for White Jersey points in the Best young rider category,at 23 years old,Pogacar has a lock on it. Keep being fundamentally sound, take advantage of the great lead outs,always protect yourself,your podium awaits !! Biniam,You have Arrived in the Tour de France 🎉🎉🎉🏆🎉❤
I'm surprised they didn't Disqualify MVDP for Jasper Philipsen's sprint deviation
It’s so stupid. I have a teammate that did the same thing to me but I didn’t yield cause it was my line and I was gaining on him and had never encountered someone who would just shove you out of the way. Created a crash and our friendship was ruined.
who asked
@@hallothar382who asked you to comment
Jasper living up to his nickname once again
What is his nickname?
@@garyjames-ij4fr Jasper Disaster, according to the Netflix series 😀
@@garyjames-ij4fr Cheater !! His nickname is Cheater. If it’s a fair game and world, Jasper has won just 1 stage not 3 so far. Because it’s really stupid what he did in these two stages; how can someone do like that in that time and in that place to another rider!?!!
Lol Jasper disaster is just a foreshadowing of what's to come whenever the other rider doesn't yield to him.
I've noticed Biniam more than I would any other rider (possibly because of the high vis jersey) but seems like he's getting pushed around every sprint. Took a shoulder at around 900 meters on this one too. Dude could use some better luck.
Yes I feel bad for him, but tomorrow he is one of the favourites, because the road is up to 5% steep right before the finish
You also need to be a bit rough in these situations. If you yield to everybody and avoid any contact then you'll likely never have a chance at winning.
I've often repeated about Biniam's fault of being soft and NOT placing himself properly
Bini needs a sprinting coach to show him how to use his elbows and shoulders - maybe Robbie McEwan could spend a few days with him.
Dude could be less soft.
He boxed Pederson to the wheel of MVDP and boxed Bini to the wall if this is not a dangerous play then this is not different from the VAR checks that apply for Manchester United games, but the big problem for Bini is his team is not ready for a good lead out
He even deviates on the intermediate sprint, starts on white line in middle of the road and drifts right (1:30 mins)
Congratulations 3 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤ Biniam Girmay you always made history you’re lion 🐅you’re very strong 💪 we’re proud of you forever 👏👏👏👏🤴🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
How’re those Eritrean war crimes coming along?
Bin we glad you are safe you are hero
The DVB cameo is an example of what separates LR from lamestream coverage for viewers who really want “inside the peloton” insight.
MVDP elbows him out the other day, Philipsen runs across him... Is Alpecin just untouchable?
Do the judges secretly WANT more crashes?? Tolerating moves like Jasper's will only encourage more rides to do the same.
You’re right...I think they enjoy when the see crashing cyclists
I love LR‘s lil speech bubbles of what the riders are thinking 😂😂
2nd time now. And again.. no penalty. TdF becomming a joke.
Poeple becoming a joke for crying all the time. This is sprinting, if you dont like it, dont watch.....
@@RoaldvandenBerghenSo sprinting is about cutting people of and pushing them into barriers? I thought its about who is more explosive rider....
@@RoaldvandenBerghen Its called passion and thats part of cycling and also even top riders say he should be penalized for that, if you knew cycling then you would of know this too
@@Strategic_wins Jasper, is that you? You were in the wrong today man, no excuses.😆
@RoaldvandenBerghen this is not American football pal, you are in the wrong side of sport
Gutted about Cav. Seems like he had a real mechanical there. His form is strong though!
Exactly he Will get that #35
Even with the mechanical, he'd have the win if the officials relegated Phillipsen
Unbelievable, the jury has to be ashamed !😢
For everyone thinking that he blocked by purpose. He wants the wheel of Mark, that is why he deviates. I think the officials look at this and say that JP officially starts his sprint after he is behind Cavs wheel and therefore shouldn't be relegated. Also ge is ahead of BG when he takes the wheel of Cav. This is a tough one for me, I haven't read the tule book when the "deviating rule" starts. Bc at the same time you are allowed to take the wheel in front of you
Totally agree, most of this basher's are fan of WVA all cry babies
We are very proud Bini 🎉
The UCI is so inconsistent. And when they make a call it's usually a bad one. I saw it while watching live and replayed it several times.
I don't think Cav necessarily wants to break the record on a relegation, but it needs to happen. They may still do it, they did it in the Women's tour last year for a similarly egregious deviation.
How many of Cav's wins were similar?
@@Veloasiawhat does this have to do with the OP comment?
Nobody wants to break a record because the guy who crossed the line ahead gets relegated, but on the other hand nobody wants to come second to a serial cheater who should already have been punished, and then not break the record at all.
Thanks for the insightful talk-through! Also, 7:49 best pronunciation of Jonas "Whungegot"
🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷king bini🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
Philipsen and controversy... you don't say 😂😂😂😂
Jasper disaster strikes again
😢😢😢
lowkey cheering for Cavendish 35th stage win! Hope he will get it this year!
The Dylan van Baarle incident is funny 😁 Good spotting!
I’m convinced with this breakdown that Jasper should have been relegated. He’s all over the place and that’s a danger to the rest.
The stage with Wout as well.
The French can't let Cav take Eddie's crown.
@@ztevehEddie is belgian ??
I feel so bad for BG, this was one of his best chances of getting a stage win and making history. He clearly had the legs for it at the end. Looks like JP is going to keep doing whatever the hell he wants smh.
Sounds like he just needs to be better.
@@cincydooleydont u have something better to do than troll in the comments and respond to everyone being supportive of Bini? normal people dont do that, please stop projecting your self hatred onto others.
@@tboyautism5759 I currently do not. I just made dinner and I’m watching wrap ups on todays racing. I had no idea there were so many people trying to make excuses for soft ass Girmay.
@@cincydooleywhat were you watching he got blocked then was still even basically at the line. Maybe everyone should have to follow the rules you racist bigot
@@cincydooley Bini isnt soft, he's just not an idiot. Jasper has been doing this almost every stage, and people with brains have not tried to fight him because they know they will crash, potentially putting their careers as a whole at risk. You could be calling any of the riders who have backed off from the sprints because of his erratic behavior "soft" but youre choosing instead to have a meltdown over anyone who criticizes jasper, trying to blame it on anyone other than him. If Bini had tried harder, he probably would have been pushed into the barrier and crashed. That's not worth it. Take your masculinity issues somewhere else. Bini is strong as hell for making third, full stop.
Great commentary mate!
In previous sprints Cav had problems even getting to "sprintable" position, now he got it and voila - yes he had the speed! I believe he'll get it
Bininwoulda beat him ez
OMG bini today 2nd but tommorow 1st 🎆🎆🎆🎆🎉🎉🎉🎉
He wasn't even second lol. He was third.
Case for phillipsen to be relegated was stronger today than in his last win. Shame that there is no consistent enforcement of the rules and that someone has to crash in order for the stewards to take action on dangerous deviations.
I was thinking the same. Today One is very clearly blocking.
thanks for a great vlog
Nice video thanks
Absolutely infuriating to watch, and such a shame for Biniam and Cav. I hope something gets done before anything happens to the riders.
Congrats bini
Keep up the good work lantern!!
What is the point of having the deviation rule if they are never going to enforce it??
They enforce it on Skjelmose and bettiol in a not dangerous situation. But Jasper they turn a blind eye. I think they should dq the uci enforcers. I will only be watching mountain stages because of this ludacris
philipsen bouncing between the barriers like a pinball
Biniam was absolutely screwed
like he can outsprint philipsen.
or well torqued
@@sudsehun76 shut up
@sudsehun76 if Philipsen was that much faster, he wouldn't desperately need to grab a wheel.
@@rocketmanracer26 ur confusing speed with distance. faster doesn't mean he can hold max speed for 300m. why is bini grabbing cav's wheel then, if he's faster. why not sprint in open wind?
fyi, it's not me who's saying jasper is the fastest sprinter atm, it's the cycling world. also, bini and cav aren't even come top 10. that's a preposterous comment to make. he needs to take the wheel to fend off other sprinters.
This was an excellent review
DQ, the guy is smart and is firmly aware that he is cutting off another rider to gain advantage in the closing end of a stage winning sprint
I'm Bini's fan ,but Jp is crazy fast he has the speed to block left and right barriers in 5 sec
He was 2 bike lengths ahead then they were ahead of him because he was swerving. At least cav got ahead. Easy to stay in front when you block everybody.
No you ain't you an apologist. GTFO
UCI should do more to ensure that athletes are able should not get injured or hurt. This’s humiliation. We’re proud of you BINi king 🤴 😢😢😢😢
In the context of an event like the Tour de France, where athletes compete at the highest level of cycling, it is essential to prioritize fairness and respect for fellow competitors. In situations where one person intentionally blocks another person, it goes against the principles of fair play and sportsmanship.
To address such situations, I would suggest the following:
1. Clear Communication: It is essential for event organizers to establish clear guidelines and rules regarding blocking behavior. Athletes should be made aware of the consequences and potential penalties for intentionally obstructing or impeding their competitors.
2. Fostering Sportsmanship: Emphasize the importance of fair play, respect, and sportsmanship through ongoing education and training programs. Encourage athletes to compete with integrity and prioritize the spirit of healthy competition.
3. Strong Referee Presence: Ensure that there are sufficient referees and officials throughout the race, actively monitoring and penalizing unsportsmanlike conduct. Referees should have the authority to intervene promptly and impartially when blocking or obstruction occurs, guaranteeing a fair and level playing field for all competitors.
4. Post-Race Review: Establish a post-race review process to thoroughly assess any incidents of intentional blocking. Use video footage and testimonies from involved parties to determine the severity and intent of the action. Penalties or appropriate disciplinary actions should be implemented if necessary.
5. Encourage Respectful Competition: Promote a culture of respect and fair competition among participants, coaches, and spectators. Create platforms for athletes to share their experiences, stories, and values about sportsmanship, highlighting positive role models and their examples.
By implementing these suggestions, it is possible to maintain the integrity of competitive events like the Tour de France, fostering a respectful environment where athletes can demonstrate their abilities while upholding the core values of sportsmanship.
Biniam Ghirmay is great sprinter
The sprint before was different going into that right bend, but the one in Stage 7 looked sketchy AF! I was shocked that was clean
I know gears can jump sometimes down say from 12 to 11.But gears jumping up as Cav said happened from 11 to 12??? Is that electronic gearing thing?
Well there was a pretty big bump he went over. I'm sure that was the root cause.
I’m just shocked Cav still has this kind of speed. He came flying by everyone like he used to do but obviously it went wrong. The stars have to be aligning
Ok, the first win by Philipsen on stage 3, where he was called in to see the stewards, he wasn't penalised and I agreed with it, despite it being perhaps a relegation offense. It was borderline legal at best, hence he was given the benefit of the doubt. However, I would have thought he might have been given a warning that should it happen again then he would get relegated. And that's exactly what should have happened here.
He knew if he stayed in the wind he wouldn't catch Cavendish or Biniam (who was on Cav's wheel), so he'd probably have had to settle for third. However, this is where we see his bullying to push Biniam out from behind Cav's wheel and then from there he gets the drag he needs to pull past both of them. Is this racing? Yes. Does it break any rules? I think it does. Was he relegated? No. This is the problem. No sense having rules if they are not enforced. Philipsen, who is a tremendous sprinter, shouldn't need to do this to win sprints, but he clearly shows no qualms in risking injury to others in order to win.
However, regardless of the Philipsen dirty approach, Cavendish lost this in a strange way, he seemed to slip a gear or something that caused him to lose momentum at a crucial moment. As Philipsen had bumped Biriam out by the then, it gave him the ideal opportunity to launch his final power delivery to the finish line. Spectacular TdF never fails to deliver, but it's supposed to be a sport with rules that EVERYONE should be subject to. By not penalising this action, what message are the organisers sending to other riders and the public? It doesn't matter when it suits them? Are other influences at play?
Biriam is rightly aggrieved for being barged out of the position he was in in long before Philipsen pulled right to knock him out a bit. It should definitely have been a relegation for Philipsen, especially given this is the second time that it's happened. Biniam was bumped by Van der Poel on stage 4, but there MvdP was relegated. There seems to be an inconsistent application of the rules. The TdF organisers need to take a long hard look at this and themselves.
Great analysis as alwazys!
A bit surreal having a sprinter breaking all the rules winning every stage.
Justice for bini grmay
It's almost like someone is watching the camera view and yells into his ear at the very moment and says: "veer right now!"
Biniam he is a a strong 💪🏿 person they can’t defeated him ❤because of that they tried cutting off that is not fair …,
JP found himself in a losing situation, the team dropped him off and he had no where to go. Alp & JP made decisions up to that point to be in that position, with the resources they had to work, and it was about to go sour...as did Bing/Cav with an advantage. JP would not have had Cav's wheel without causing other riders(rider) to deviate from spaces in a sprint that were rightfully their spaces by the rules. Agreed, 100% a relegation, there just is no argument otherwise. JP is really good, and has a strong headed youth for wins. I appreciate that quality...but it's been riding a line of overstepping boundaries in what is fair to win. In this situation totally unacceptable needing penalty. Luckily for everyone Bing seems like he isn't willing to risk damage to himself and others to fight back for that space, from what I have seen he has a spatial/situational fairness barometer that may be holding him back a bit against the no holds bar types in the peloton who are just more willing to risk those split second throw yourself in there moments that just trust someone is gonna move or the heck with consequences.
Speed bumps at the finish of a Tour de France stage!!
Totally agree with you !
this video is so well aged after bini's success this tour
Sprints haven´t changed. We have.
losing life or limb hasn't changed
Another sprint controversy, brilliant
It's pretty messed up that Jasper wasn't relegated on this stage or on his first win when he did the same thing to Wout, when he majorly deviated from the center of the road while taking advantage of his lead out, but then of course you see him glance over at Wout and crosses over a good 15 feet to push him within inches of the barrier, so Wout has to back off or end up like Fabio at the Tour of Poland in the first stage. You can split hairs about when the official "sprinting" starts as to when to apply a judgement on deviating one's line, but if he's pulled out from behind his lead out then it's safe to say his sprinting has started, and that was also when he moved over 15 feet to use barriers against his competitor.
This kicker is when he lost the sprint to Pederson the other day, and only got to make an appearance on the podium for his green jersey, he couldn't muster that smile he flashes when he wins dirty....lousy sportsmanship and behavior.
When I first saw it I was like oh no he’s going to get disqualified….
I hope the whole peloton rides for Cav on Champ Elysees and deny Philipsen another hollow victory...
The UCI should consider it, they are sprinters, they should focus on winning on the last few seconds not engaging in harming each other. If this unlawful move doesn't stop by the UCI , it could cause serious consequences.
You could also make the argument that these riders that are complaining at the end are getting boxed in due to their own timidity. When they were side by side Jasper had half a bike length on BG. Jasper beat him to the spot, plain and simple. I see your point but I think if you make standard sprint finishes a penalty you are going to have some really boring races.
@@bencritterson640 There's using dangerous force to get another riders wheel, and then there's being respectful and not chopping someone's wheel when they're in the red sprinting at 70kph.
@@cornishalps9870 I'd like to see how sportsmanlike you'd be if you were sprinting for a TdF stage win.
@@fujiman7 exactly, everyone is talking like these guys are out for a Sunday easy ride.
@bencritterson640 we don't want riders to get hurt in a sprint, that is all. The organization needs to penalize sprinters who put others at an unnecessary risk
Bini got his justice today
Nice rules. Lots of logic went into creating those rules.
Anyway, I’m happy Bini wasn’t hurt by that careless and reckless ride done to block him.
I feel sad for Cav seriously😢
He has done it multiple times already he gets away with it because they let him with Wout. He is going to hurt someone!
Am proud of Beni Beni
Danish Friends! I loved that reference LR
I wonder if Jasper could win a sprint without deviating. Seems to be his tactic: ride any serious competition into the barriers. Should have been relegated IMHO.
He hasn’t deviated moron all the ex pros including Robbie mcewan have said his moves are fine. Sprinting is always chaotic and messy, you need to have balls and be aggressive when sprinting or you won’t win. If your doubting his ability I suggest you research his career e.g scheldeprijs 2023, champs elysees 2022 Tour de France, Tirreno adriatico 2023, Baloise Belgium tour 2023 stage 1
@@danielmacdonald721 I hit a nerve! Lol. As I said, in my opinion.
how many philipsen races have watched prior to this tdf? name me just one race where he does what u say he does.
He would win sprints. He wouldn't be as consistant. Today for example he would have had to go fully in the wind, as Cav went early and Beni had his wheel. Maybe he still makes it, maybe he just loses out due to not having great positioning going in. How many times in the past have we seen the best sprinter in the world, or the best sprinter in a race, not win the sprint because of less then optimal positioning or just because they just got dealt a bad hand that day.
The fuckery they are doing is basically eliminating all those random factors in a way that isn't fair. But at the end of the day, if they aren't going to enforce the rules, this is going to happen and I don't even blame them because they are top level sportsman and they are there to win. If the rules aren't being enforced, it essentially makes what they are doing totally legal and fine. Its super effective, so why not do it.
Of course, if the ruling body doesn't do something, it will get out of hand. F1 had a similar situation in 2021 where they didn't enforce rules early on because they didn't want to intervere with results. It got way out of control, esaclated to the point that both parties were just being totally unreasonable and crashes started happening.
Can't wait to see a broken necks and facial reconstruction caused by jasper phillipsen.