Peugeot Partner - Citroen Berlingo Virgin BSI install Aftermarket tool vs Dealer tool Diagbox Vs aft
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2022
- Here we are programming a virginised Peugeot Partner 2 BSI to a vehicle, first we tried to use aftermarket scan tools to see if it was possible & then moved on to using dealer tool (Diagbox - Peugeot Planet)
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nothing more comforting to me at this point than a local accent.. I'll be in touch
Indeed, ‘This is a local workshop, for local people’! 😊
@@JC-ECUConnection new road bad 😂
I have a waterlogged BSA and the same model of Peugeot Partner.
After seeing this, many thanks it's not a roadside job with a few screwdrivers and a dry cloth.
Glad it helped! Let us know if you need any programming work👍
Question, will PP2000 configure a new PIN without knowing the original PIN oñ a non virgin unit.
I'm down to 1 key and have PP2000, but scared to experiment Thanks
No, you will need a virgin unit to assign a new PIN to it.. if you want to add key you will need to know the PIN code & use this PIN, we offer lots of PIN code retrieval services!
www.ecuconnection.co.uk
Interesting to watch the process, great video. Fyi launch and thinktool (and Topdon) all use the same software. I had diagbox it was definitely handy but I was trying to figure it out on my own, not much tutorials online. Can I ask, the pin you retrieved from the EPROM, how did you do that, where is the EPROM?
Hi! And thanks for watching! Yes indeed ThinkCar & Topdon both use Launch software with some small variations, the main difference is in the remote diagnostic functions - Launch (UK) are locked to just one service provider, ThinkCar has an independent network which is growing and you can choose who you want to remote with, Topdon is similar but the Topdon Phoenix max doesn’t support remote functions as far as I am aware..
The EEPROM on these PSA BSI’s is on the back of the board (95160) - although we don’t need to open them to read the EEPROM as we can read the data via CAN, we then use various softwares to calculate PIN from dumpfile…
@@JC-ECUConnection hey thanks for the detailed response. I used a topdon to try and program an ECU and it asked me for a similar pin and I wasn't sure where to get it! I'm assuming you read it from the existing module, but you couldn't because it was drenched! Thanks again, and subscribed 👍
@@tonyrice3348 Thanks for subbing!! From memory this actual job we virginised a donor ECU & adapted it by PIN number because the customer was convinced he had a data corruption fault, we had already cloned an ECU but his fault remained, so we re-done the job by virginising & adapting another unit - eventually we found that he had fitted 2 new injectors which were the wrong type, making it over fuel! The PIN number can be located in both the ECU & BSI dump files…
Please can I ask why the mileage wasn't displayed on the cluster and do u have to programme the mileage back into the bsi many thanks love the videos keep up the great work u do👍
Hi, thank you for your kind words! You raise a very good point about the mileage - when installing a virgin unit the mileage is set to zero but will adapt to the cluster mileage automatically, sometimes it takes a few minutes / a few ignition cycles, from memory the mileage came back on after recording.. It’s really important if you want to test fit a BSI to Peugeot / Citroen vehicles that you are aware that the mileage will overwrite the highest value of either one to the other, for example let’s say you have a 50,000 mile vehicle & test fit a 100,000 mile BSI, the cluster will adopt the 100,000 mile value, then if you refit your 50,000 mile BSI it will then adopt the 100,000 mile value from the cluster… we regularly have to correct this for customers who have trial fitted components!
Also, when changing the bsi, you lose some functions, such as not controlling the doors and windows, and some lamps do not appear on the dashboard.
Final configuration can be performed by top end diag tools & dealer tool
Thanks for this detailed video.
Yesterday I bought the Thinktool Master X with a programmer.
I previously worked with Autel MP808S but it wasn't enough for me so it became a Thinktool combination device (advice).
So I hope that at least it's good.
What experiences have you had with it?
Today I wanted to clone the engine control unit on a BMW E46 320i MS43.
Unfortunately that didn't work (that wasn't available).
I would be happy to hear your experiences with aftermarket scanners.
This is now the 10th video with a like and a subscription. Please upload more of these videos. :)
Greetings Mr. Brown
Hi & thanks for watching & subscribing, it really encourages me to make more videos!.. As for Diag tools, both the ThinkCar & the Autel are good choices, They both have their strong points & make for a great combo, but there’s always another tool needed as you get further involved in this subject! - as for cloning an MS43 there’s no scan tool to my knowledge that will clone these, you will need to open the units & manually read & write 93C86 Eeprom & 29F400 Flash, or it can be done by extracting ISN number & adapting EWS ISN number. If you’re not into removing Eeprom & Flash chips from circuit boards to read & write we offer this service by post:
ecuconnection.co.uk/product/bmw-ecu-dme-ms43-siemens/
@@JC-ECUConnection Many thanks for the answer.
I was disappointed with my scanner today. Because neither when I removed the control unit nor in the input state could I do this on the scanner.
But now it's clear to me that no scanner can do it! I did not know that. Thanks for the offer. I'll ask my friend how he wants to solve this now.
I will forward your offer to him. Thanks for the experience about the scanners.
I would be very interested in videos about coding, software updates and immobilizers with the scanners and troubleshooting.
Greetings Mr. Brown
@@CivicBoy87 No problem, I’m looking at doing some video reviews of diag tools, it’s good to know what people want to see & also some ‘How to’ videos on diagnosing ECUs.. sadly I don’t get as much time as I would like to making videos & editing etc, hopefully I should be able to upload one or two per month!
@@JC-ECUConnection that will be great 👍.
hi! what model of thinkcar are you using here? thx
Thinktool MAX
Bonjour from France ..Great video thanks ...trying to fix my car ..(every time I go into reverse strange things happen 🙄(I's E6) from wiring diagram Citroen Berlingo 1.6hdi 92hp the BSI under dash or the unit under hood with the E1 engine management ?
I need to A13 between gearbox reverse switch and the E6`s A13 ....because if it is under the dash (BSI) I don't know how to find A13 ....very easy on engine management with the 3 plugs A.B &C but even with Haynes autofix I'm stuck ...can you help ?
Hi, thanks for watching - sorry I am unable to help with your wiring issue, they can be very time consuming & tedious jobs, good luck!
I have a 2020 Partner/Rifter K9, E6 (customers van supplied by me) won't bore you with all the deatails publicly but I can't alter any BSI parameters. I have tried my Launch and Topdon Poenix Plus but won't change anything. Need to turn off eoloys but says programming failed. The ECU has been remapped to sort a few issues but still tries to do a regen when it feels like it causing massive smoke for 5 mins. My supposedly genuine PP2000 worked once then bricked. Do I have to go see someone with genuine dealer diagnostics old chap? Thanks in advance.
Hi & thanks for watching!.. sorry but I haven’t had to plug in to one of these this new, I would think the only way to fix this is a DPF delete & remap if not already done - although I think most remappers would like to work on an original file so you would be best in my opinion getting a software update done first, I’m not sure if it is possible with genuine dealer tool or not, mine is an old copy version..
@@JC-ECUConnection Thanks for quick reply pal, it has had Ad-blue delete, EGR delete, Cat & DPF delete, etc.. its a total electronic dog.... these get to just over 3 years old, the adblue is first to go, injector first then adblue level meaning new tank etc, never worked on a worse van. Might have to buy it back from the customer now. He is very patient but running out of options.
Hi can you please help me can economy mode be bypassed / abolished? Thanks in advance
Economy mode should switch off automatically when the engine starts, if you have had an immobiliser removed from an ECU & eco mode is not switching off then it’s a bad Immo off method, ours works! Please visit website for more info:
www.ecuconnection.co.uk
Is there a solution to the mileage problem when changing the bsi
Yes! - The best way - as in video is to set the mileage in the BSI to zero before fitting! If however the BSI has been fitted without zeroing the miles then the mileage will need to be corrected by firstly removing the dash from the vehicle & correcting on bench, then the BSI can be corrected by OBD or on bench & when installed back in vehicle there will be no conflict - we can help with doing this:
www.ecuconnection.co.uk
@@JC-ECUConnection
Thank you for the kind reply. I actually fixed it before by removing the dashboard and writing the same mileage on bsi. This problem may occur with a Berlingo vehicle.
@@JC-ECUConnection
Also, I have a question. Is there some functionality, like closing the windows and showing some lights on the dash on the EEPROM chip or bsi flash?
@@elhakim9416 it will happen in most PSA vehicles, mileage is recorded in BSI & Cluster - the higher value will write from one to the other when they are connected together..
@@elhakim9416 sorry, not sure what you mean?
Is the Peugeot planet software expensive to buy
The original version will cost a few thousand pounds to set yourself up, however I have heard there is copy versions available for around £100 or so... use at your own discretion!
Como sacaste y con que Hramienta el código de seguridad ?
Hi, this is a service we offer on our website, we operate a postal service throughout Europe, we also Virginise these units ready for installation:
www.ecuconnection.co.uk
@@JC-ECUConnection gracias por responder , yo tengo la posibilidad de sacar el código de seguridad (que por cierto , he cargado un flash de otra BSI de una Peugout 5008 pero hardware diferente ) he conseguido sacar el código con vvdi key pad tool , programado la BSI , el nr de bastidor , y las llaves y el coche me arranca , pero tiene algún fallo que se debe a que el flash correspondía al otro hardware …, . Lo que busco , será un archivo flash y para el Eprom también de una misma referencia que tiene mi BSI , y que sea de una citroen Berlingo B9 motor gasolina 1.6 . La pregunta era sobre cómo sacó el código pin si lo ha hecho con la misma Hramienta SVCI !? Gracias una ves más , y por cierto , si alguien me puede ayudar con los datos flash del coche indicado y nr referencia de la BSI , le agradecería muchísimo . Un saludo
Hi, no I didn’t use SVCI (AVDI copy tool) - I read the eeprom & calculated it, if you are looking for BSI flash files I would post on forums such as MHH & DigitalKAOS ETC ideally you will need the part number of the unit that you are searching for…
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Thank you for your comment, I agree the Thinkcar tool is a really good tool.. BUT it still doesn’t replace dealer tool, as shown here you still need Diagbox to program the PIN to the BSI, usually Diagbox programs the keys fine, but on rare occasions it fails - this is when aftermarket tools are helpful, as in the video the Thinkcar saved the day!
@@JC-ECUConnection hello as well as the manufcuturer s hardware is indispensable
well done good job
How to search acces code ?
Immo PIN is in the EEPROM of the BSI & Flash in the ECU, we offer a PIN code retrieval service by post if needed:
www.ecuconnection.co.uk