Thriving 6 year Old Mediterranean Permaculture Food Forest in SoCal San Diego California
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Thriving 6 year old #foodforest in socal san diego zone 10b using #permaculture concepts.
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Don"t forget to feed the bunnies! I enjoyed the video. You have done a lot of work!
TY :). Definitely logged a lot of playtime hours lol
Excellent 😊🎉
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@@Godisincontrol325 :)
Just fabulous well done. Love this video. thnku
Thanks for watching :)
Beautiful, thriving, abundantly luscious! I dig it. Hope you are having as much fun as that all looks!
Edit: Looks like someone already let you know - "That nut tree volunteer might be a Southern California Black Walnut - alelopathic except with elderberry and native north american rosaceae spp." You might check out Rhus spp such as lemonadeberry or sugarbush - can be used like Sumac in middle eastern dishes or provide a chamoy-like flavor to tacos).
@@hhwippedcreamIt is definitely fun spending time in the food forest. It's a playground for grown adults :).
@@hhwippedcream ill check out those plants you mentioned. TY. Always nice adding more diversity and functional plants.
Definitely give it a look up to see if it’s winged sumac or smooth sumac. There’s a lot of good info and I just found massive clusters everyone in my Florida area. I’m sure the birds are working they’re magic there to lol 😅! Hope that helps I’m no expert however that structure is similar and if red berries start to form in clusters and have a sour tastes it’s one of those if they’re white tho I’m pretty sure that’s the toxic one. Great bio mass regardless gonna mess around with using them like Mexican sunflower!🤙 awesome video!
This is incredible!!! Wow!
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@@thefoodforestnamibia TY :)
Nice work! Loving your garden. Mystery plant does look like a black walnut which is native to socal. I think adding a few more natives would really elevate the food forest. Consider hollyleaf cherries, elder berries, and jojoba nut
@@devdeuce93 TY. I have been looking to add more california natives and concentrated planting them in front of our property...they grow so slowly.
With all the biomass you might be retaining too much moisture? Either way your voice was relaxing to listen to thanks.
We are far away from having too many biomass; I actually need to plant more lol. We are in a mediterranean climate. We dont get rain all summer.
Mystery nut tree looks like it could be black walnut. Black walnut is allelopathic so not so good for chop and drop. That is, if it is black walnut I’m not entirely sure. Hopefully it’s pecan. That would be awesome!
Food forest is looking so dense and lush John! Looks beautiful!
@@Jess_Tropical_jungle ty. Ill do more research on it. The plants near it seems to be doing great so far. Ill keep an eye on potential issues ans keep you posted
@@JohnDaBuilder yea you can grow it alongside some plants and it seems to do fine with the allelopathic chemical ‘juglone’. But then others can’t handle it, and some seeds can’t germinate. Black walnut does have some incredible benefits too though if it is that. Lots of cleansing properties and you can also eat the nuts too, so I’d say if it’s not causing any problems with anything around it, it’s very useful in the food forest 😊
@@Jess_Tropical_jungle so based on the leaves, this tree has one leaflet on the tip so it is likely a pecan. Makes sense since I did bury pecan seeds everywhere.
@@JohnDaBuilder haha that’s awesome! It’s doing great over there, are they seeds from San Diego?
@@Jess_Tropical_jungle i forgot to be honest. I mightve bought from ebay
You need two kie apples to fruit
@@azdharalsager9775 Hi and thanks for the feedback. Steve from exotica nursery who sold this to me did tell me that and this came with 3 separate seedling. Hopefully we get both male and female.
With the kei apple, just graft onto it a good variety. It also needs male and female flowers. Never heard of a herm. tree. So maybe get a male or female scion
When I bought this from Steve at Exotica Nursery in Vista California, he did mention it needs both genders to produce. The one he sold me came with 3 seedlings so I took a gamble that I shoukd get both sexes and hopefully produce. Now, if I can find someone to get scions from....
@@JohnDaBuilder fancyplants and virginia-fruit-grower here on RUclips have kei apples of good varieties. Fancyplants is in los Angeles and from what I have seen, he likes sharing. He has both male and a female tree. Virginia fruit grower has a named variety that I cant remember.
@@crushayou5319 ill go check it out. Ty
Thanks for sharing, Interesting mix you have there, Nice layering.. lm interested to see what mango varietals do the best in SD county. Growing Kent, Valencia Pride, Peach, Manila,Aatoulfo, and honey.
TY. We are in SoCal which is a mediterranean climate. It took a while to figure out most of the support trees they use in the tropics do not work here like the leucaena. We are still adding more layers as we discover what plants thrive here that grows quickly and easy to propagate.
In regards to mango varieties, seedlings work best like the manila you buy at the big box stores. Reason is in our climate, if you buy grafted, it uses majority of its energy producing flowers instead of growing. Seedlings is a way around this...then you learn how to graft to it once it is mature enough.
@@JohnDaBuilder excellent-I’m not far from you as the crow flies. Installing a tropical food forest in Valley Center this season.
Looks like you might be in zone 9a/9b. You might want to consult someone who is growing mango in that hardiness zone. Not sure if you can successfully grow mangoes there without some kind of a microclimate.
@@JohnDaBuilder Hardiness zone 10b-9a. So far so good, true test will be the cold season just around the corner. I’ve seen a few neighbors growing mangoes but not real commercial production. I’m using support plants like Mexican sunflower to protect them (create insulated micro climates.) haven’t gotten into the grafting yet, trying to establish strong root stock first.
I have been using mexican sunflowers for cold protection. But one thing I noticed though is to be careful doing this. Some of my mangoes with the mexican sunflowers got hit with antracnose probably from lack of airflow during the wet/foggy season.
Have you had success with langka?
@@wengb3153 we lost a lot of langka (jackfruit) the first many years. All grafted and 50+ seedlings planted got eaten by the gophers. We planted many seedlings again with gopher baskets last year and they are beginning to thrive. I will be talking about jackfruits pretty soon so stay tuned. Someone supposedly fruited one in socal and I am going to find out how we can too and share the knowledge
Doubt it, where's the food? I doubt it, you need some chickens. You need to really build your soil startinng with at least 10 inches deep of wood chips. Yes you need that much ...(They are free.) TO KEEP FROM slipping on your mud path thats eroding down hill. Cover everwhere thickly to keep the ground moist and build soil .that Chop and drop isnt enough. Chop up your drop a bit more to help build your soil . I know this SD CLIMATE . I live next door.
@@SWEAR2CARE if you watched until the end, you wouldve seen the chickens. In regards to mulch, you are right, we should have more mulch. Logistically, it is difficult to do so. When we started, chipdrop was inconsistent and took a long time to get mulch that we ended up paying for it. Imagine the cost/labor/heavy equipment rental needed to cover an acre with 10" of wood chips...We were able to cover some sections with 6-8" of mulch and it decomposed within 2 years. Now it is too difficult to get mulch in this location so chop and drop is the way to go. My strategy now is to keep planting support trees/shrubs/groundcover layers to feed the soil with root exudates and for chop and drop. Although it takes time, I do believe that one day, we will have more organic biomass produced "in-house" than we will ever need.
@@SWEAR2CARE TY, you just gave me an idea for a video to make :)
How does the Mexican Sunflower behave in your climate in winter?
We have a very similar climate here in Portugal, does it die back and regrow in spring?
The mexican sunflower is unphased by our winters here. No die back but growth slows down a little bit but It likes our winter rains and once spring kicks it, it begins growing quickly. We only get as low as 35 degrees farenheit here.
I was surprised how quickly and how tall it got this year creating nice microclimates. It is so easy to chop and drop with a machete, pruners, or small handsaw.
Very easy to grow and propagate from cutting. Just cut and stick into thr ground. If it gets water, it will root.
How’s the sarisa and atis doing po?
Sarisa did really well the first 4 years. It struggled during our heavy rain 2 years ago and is recovering. It is a pioneer tree and I do not think it is a long lived tree so at some point, I am expecting it to die off.
Atis grows ok but struggles every winter and loses many of its leaves. Its fruits get large but never got sweet and rots on the tree due to our mild winter. If you plant in socal, it needs wind protection and plant near the house with stucco or a block wall.
Is the term, food forest new or have I totally missed it until 2024? I thought the term for fruit trees was "grove". English is not my native language but I think I am quite fluent in it.
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@@MrHalukbilgin geoff can explain it way better than i can.
a food forest is an idea where you plant edible plants in a more natural "forest" lay out where the plants tend to occupy certain niches in the artifical forest trying to mimic the natural layout of a real forest. a grove or orchard meanwhile is a human construct that doesn't mimic nature typically what is called a monoculture of just one tree type and no other types of plants.
@@billyd7628 Thank you so much is it a relatively new one, was this concept present, say 50 years ago?
@@MrHalukbilgin i think its a bit of a older concept. but it has definitely picked up steam with people more recently as its a more sustainable way to farm compared to monocultures especially for smaller spaces because you can plant stuff under trees and climbing plants can use other plants as cover.
Not beautiful, just weeds
Lol my mom and wife say the same thing. However, they serve a temporary purpose in the food forest during its ecological succession phase; and one day, they will lose that purpose and naturally disappear once we get a canopy layer and the soil becomes fungally dominated.