Vanhal Concerto for Viennese Bass. Original version, gut strings. オリジナルバーション、ガット弦によるヴァンハルのコントラバス協奏曲
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Performed by Duo Sweet 17
Korneel Le Compte Viennese Bass ( Domonkos Gellért )
Haruko Tanabe Viola d'Amore ( Pierre Van Engeland )
The double bass concerto by Johann Baptist Vanhal is one of the staples of our repertoire, both for modern players and for the “ancient music”-oriented musicians.
Although it’s playable on a modern bass (with some minor adaptations left and right), it only shows its true colors when played in the original tuning on a bass with gut strings and frets, just like it was intended.
The manuscript is now available for consultation on the internet, and the great thing is that we can now see all the other orchestra parts as well. This is very enlightening, as we get a better idea of how to interpret the articulations, which may sometimes seem puzzling at first sight. In fact,
there is nothing mysterious about them once you understand the system that the composer (or the copyist) used to indicate slurs and separated notes.
The other conundrum is found in the many 8va-signs: are they Vanhal’s, or were they added later by an overly ambitious soloist?
Korneel Le Compte, who has been a lover of the Viennese Violone for over 40 years, offers some original insights into the history and the interpretation of this wonderful concerto, not only from a technical viewpoint but more importantly with the purpose of trying to find the deeper musical language and message of this music.
In order to do this, Korneel Le Compte explores fingering and bowing options, goes into the question of articulations and sound color, but he also situates the piece in a bigger musical and historical context to arrive, in the end, at the meaning of the piece, and of music in general, for the present-day audience. Because, as he maintains, without an audience to listen there can be no music.
This series of videos includes an Introduction interview with the great Venezuelan bassist José Andrès Reyes, three Instruction Tapes (one for each of the concerto’s movements), and a complete, unadulterated and unpolished live recording of the piece, accompanied by a one-person orchestra in the shape of the unsurpassed Viola d’Amore player Haruko Tanabe.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy!
Manuscript:
imslp.org/wiki...)
Recording & Editing:
José Andrés Reyes & Tobias Le Compte
Double Bass: copy of Matthias Thir, made by Gellert Domonkos
Viola d'Amore: copy of Leclerc, Paris by Pierre Vanengeland
Next few videos coming up:
- J.S.Bach, Chaconne, arr. for Viola d'Amore and Viennese Violone
- K.D. Von Dittersdorf: Ct° nr. 2 (nicknamed "Beatlesdorf")
- Japanese Suite
Stay (Viennese-) tuned !
ザ・ヴァンハル テープス
ヨハン・バプティスト・ヴァンハルのコントラバスコンチェルトは、近代ベース奏者、古楽器のベース奏者両者にとって、最も大事なレパートリーのなかの１つに数えられる作品です。
この作品は近代ベースで演奏可能なのにもかかわらず ( 右手、左手の多少の改正の後 ) やはりオリジナルのチューニング、そしてフレットを付けたガット弦での演奏でしか表現できないものがあります。
最近ではマニュスクリプトをインターネットで観覧することができます。なんとオーケストラパートのまで調べる事が出来る為、当時の演奏のアーティキュレーションを想像する為にもとても役に立ちます。それ等は初めてみた時にはパズルを組み立てるような感覚に陥りますが、一度作曲家 ( 又はコピスト) のスラー、ドットなどの書き方を呑み込めば、とてもすらすらと理解できるようになります。
沢山登場するオクターブ・マークも謎の１つです。これはヴァンハル自身の記した物なのでしょうか、それとも後にソリストのエゴによって付け足されたものなのでしょうか?
４０年以上に渡ってウイーン式チューニングを愛してきたコルネル・ル・コントが、テクニック的な視点からだけではなく歴史を踏まえながら音楽の深い言語を伝える為にの素晴らしいコンチェルトを解説します。
フィンガリング、ボーイングの選択はアーティキュレーション、音色の為でもありますが、忘れてはいけないのが演奏する場所、今日のコンサートホールの大きさ、そしてこれは音楽一般に言える事ですが、現代の観客の趣味なども関係してきます。なぜなら、聴きにきてくださる観客無しでは音楽は存在しないからです。
この動画シリーズは、素晴らしいヴェネズエラ出身のベーシスト、ホセ・アンドレス・レイエス氏によるル・コント氏のインタビューのイントロ、１楽章ごとにヴァンハルのコンチェルトを解説をする動画が３本、そしてヴィオラ・ダモーレによって弾かれる伴奏による ( 演奏 :田辺晴子) コンチェルト全楽章が含まれています。
Not gonna lie, you caught me off guard with the Per questa bella mano :) . Beautiful
Awfully kind of you... thanks a lot! In "Ancient Music" there is often a lot of musical humor. We don't always "get it", maybe because sometimes we take Classical Music too seriously. But composers and musicians liked this kind of thing, like quoting a few bars of another piece. All the best!
Hallo lieber Korneel, hallo liebe Haruko, grandioso! ich sah erst heute diese phantastische Interpretation des Vanhal-Konzertes in Eurer special Version! So gute Ideen, so frisch und
lebendig - einfach perfekt! Großartig! Nun wünsche ich mir die Sperger-Konzerte in dieser Art!
Bleibt bitte gesund und macht weiter so schöne Sachen!!
Vielen Dank! Sperger 1, 2, und 4 kommen bald... herrliche Musik... hoffentlich alles vor Jahresende. Viele Grüsse aus Belgien!
I'm an absolute fan of Korneel's cadenza in Adagio... divine!
As i remember, your own cadenzas are really really nice too! K
The viola d'amore is such a weird looking instrument, I love it.
:-) same here :-)
I'd love to see the viola family back!
Thank you for this wonderful and spontaneus Master performance, full of life !
Thank you for your support since the beginning...we appreciate it very much. New videos coming soon!
Beautiful!
Thank you very much!
This is so refreshing!
Thank you very much ! Happy New Year :-)
I like it
Absolutely magnificent!
Thank you so much!
Outstanding sound, I love it!
Bravo！
BRAVIIII!!!! ...
Bella versione ...
👍👍👍👍👍
👏👏👏👏👏
Grazie!
lovely
Thanks :-)
Amazing!
Genial!
Brody Delestre(Brasil Rio de Janeirto)
Simple put, you both sound awesome, cheers!
Thanks a lot. Very nice of you. Stay safe, all the best!
What an amazing looking bass. This is one of my favourite version of this piece！ Also its fun to see so many pieces mashed up in one performance. Thanks for the treat！
Gotta love the one-person orquestra
You two are amazing! I love it!! I play viola and gambas, and am currently deciding if I will buy a g-violone or a small bass.
❤ Thank you so much! I love the bass in all its shapes and forms, but the g-violone is a truly heavenly instrument and i always regret not being better at it... tough choice, i guess. Whichever it is, enjoy playing and enjoy life every day!
@@harukokorneel6585 I bought a g-violone and am really enjoying it. I have already played with our gamba group - those low notes add so much to a consort. I may also buy a small UB in the future - I need the shorter string length. Keep recording please!
Wonderful
My back hurts!!
Mine doesn't 🙂
Fantástico 👏👏👏👏 💪💪💪❤️
🎵🎶fufufu💞
SUPER!
Thank you so much! Very kind of you!
Bravo! Verheiratete Liebe läuft über. Großartig!
Dōmo arigatō :-)
Musik und Liebe...eine grossartige Kombination. Viele Grüsse aus Brüssel!
genious!
Wonderfully. Mozart would proud ! Per quest Bella Mano my favorite piece) I was really happy to hear it with my favorite classic concerto
Thanks a lot!
Thank you very much, I enjoyed listening and seeing both of you playing.
Is there any relation with Boccherini's concerto for cello in G ?
Am I wrong if I recognize the theme of the 1st movement from Boccherini concerto in the beginning of Vanhal concerto ?
Hi, thanks for your comment! Apart from the dotted rhythm descending cascade i don’t really hear many similarities between the two concerti, and such formulas were in themselves not all that original: within a classical harmonic and melodic framework, they are bound to pop up in several works that are quite unrelated. Then again, composers would freely borrow each other’s ideas. I doubt, however, that there is a direct influence here. Thanks for the remark, it was a reason to listen to Boccherini once again :-)
@@harukokorneel6585 Thank you for your fast answer and your explainations.
I wasn't enaugh aware of this common formula in music for strings of the classical period.
Your playing is outstanding. Could you kindly add the number of strings this bass has, as well as the tuning you are using, to the video description above?
looks like a 5 string, from the bottom D A D F# A
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Hi, great performance and great channel, subscribed immediately. Could you please give all of us your point of view about famous ditterdorf bass concert in eb major? I'm approaching the concert in viennese tuning, and i find some bow strokes really hard to execute. Above all in the third mvt. Thanks in advance!
Ciao Alessio, thanks for your nice comment. In my upcoming book "Meta Hodos" there will be a lengthy explanation about Ditterdorf, amongst others. Publishing date is early december... As to the bow strokes, since there are almost no articulations indicated in the manuscript, you can feel free to fill them in yourself. The score is not meant to be played exactly as written. That means, you have a lot of freedom in arranging the bowings and articulations as you want, as long as you stay in the Classical style. For the moment there is no Dittersdorf video planned, but i might do one next year. In the meantime, feel free to make the bass part easier to bow!
@@viennesetuningchannel6101 thank you! I'll follow your advice, this tuning is really interesting and the gut strings, being so sensitive, made me rethink about bow hold and body weight on the right arm. Keep working on these sources. By the way, useful. See you!
So incredible! The link to the original manuscript does not seem to be working. Do you know where I might be able to find it? I'm trying to do some research on this work and it would be so helpful to me. Thank you, and once again I really enjoyed your performance!
Dear Lindsay, first of all many thanks for your nice words... i just checked and the concerto is still there, on the IMSLP site. I don't know why you can't seem to make the link work. Just try imslp.com and go from there? Also, on the viennese-tuning.com website you can find my book "Meta Hodos", which contains a lengthy analysis and a technical explanation of the Vanhal concerto. I hope that can help you with your research. Good luck, take care, enjoy life!
If the link doesn't work directly (there does seem to be something strange going on there) just type "imslp vanhal" or "imslp vanhal double bass" in your browser and you should get there. Ganbatte kudasai!
@@harukokorneel6585 great, thank you!
If you like Vanhal, check this videoscore! ruclips.net/video/vp73qwYX2VM/видео.html
That's a funny lookin guitar
A hippy contribution.
Austrians are odd folk anyway!
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When i was pursuing music i played this with an orchestra i was principal bass. I think i made the correct choice to stop taking it serious and do a different carreer. This is not good. The bass playing is dorky and gut strings sound bad on bass.
No objective rating system. Good riddance
Good luck with your different career. Enjoy life and be happy :-)