I have to admit that I'm not really a fan of the genre of music that you typically produce (I am more of a hard rock and metal guy), but I'm so happy I found your channel because you're always so articulate with how you explain things and it's really evident how much time you put into each video. Thanks bro! Your expertise is greatly appreciated! 🍻
Haha well hey glad the channel has been such a helpful resource for you! When it makes sense, I try to keep everything as agnostic as possible to explain core concepts and ideas so that everyone can apply them to whatever they see fit. Glad to hear all the work that goes into it isn't for nothing! Cheers! 🥃
You are not lying about the melda free bundle. The Mtremolo plugin is probably the most comprehensive volume shaper out there with some very musical randomize features. you have to make sure the phase is set to 0 degrees though otherwise it can be frustrating.
@@VenusTheory I was able to find someone who sold me the full license on knobcloud for 30 instead of 50 and i really like the sturator with the over sampling
If you want to remove the limitations of the free bundle (for instance being able to resize the window or save presets), keep an eye out during the Black Friday sales. It's been $25 (50% off) previous years.
Those look like a win. Mastering is such a mystical dark art and you look to have found easy mode for it! I have the Melda drumkit and love it and this looks like a whole lotta more good tools from them. Thanks
I dig it. I've been using either Izotope Ozone or TDR Nova behind TDR limiters. Now that I finallt know the lufs range...I have to do so much adjusting now 😂
2:28 Kirchhoff EQ has a button that activates 117bit processing Dan Worrall did a video that shows that it nulls with Pro-Q3 with 117bit on, but hey it's there if you need it. Personally i do hear a difference when 117bit is activated but it could be placebo i guess
There is probably a reason that no one else is using 80 bit floating point values and that reason is that 32 or 64 bit floating point values are more than enough for almost anything audio related.
80 bit floating point (extended double) is completely unnecessary. Nobody is going to hear the difference vs 64-bit and you're paying a very expensive CPU cost for it.
Good demo in Signalizer for what it looks like when it's ok.. but what does Vectorscope look like when it's out of phase?.. what does the spectral shape look like that I should be trying to avoid?
Yo! When a signal is out of phase, it will skew at an angle to the left or right. You can test it out if you have a synth that allows you to offset the phase by feeding it into a vectorscope plugin!
Can you do a mastering tutorial using simple plugins? nothing that is specific for mastering. I wanna know how to do this iin the classical way.(I think is better a produce know how to do mastering with normal plugins, not specific for mastering, because it means that have good skills.)
@@VenusTheory absolutely. That's why I love that quote. I practice the preach too. 200 million streams now across tracks with absolutely no mastering and only freeware fx.
@@jetlag1488 oh definitely, just any fresh ears on it can always make a difference too. I don't think any tracks I've released (its in the thousands now) are truly finished. Nothing ever is. The key word in that quote is "Need". a good mix doesn't "Need" mastering, and the longer you do it for a living the more you learn where "need" becomes that significant difference in real world performance. fact is mastering a track to polish the last 5-10% isn't actually gonna make it communicate its message more, touch more people, or bring in more revenue (after deducting the time and cost)
I have a theory i can`t prove. Lets say that only this one has "80 bit floating point" and everyone else 32 (?) . Thing is same as in mastering, more important is knowing what you are doing than having the best equipment. Only a good engineer will make the best out of ... anything so in plugins lets take "everyone else" that are using 32 bit (or whatever they use , i dont know but its not 80bit , for the sake of argument). But in the real world,,, not every Eq using 32bit sounds the same as any other eq using 32 bit. Some have seriously flawed coding and cramp and do other funky stuff too. And i am not talking about Analog Emulating vsts. One example would be the comparisson by Dan Worall where he compares Abletons Eq8 to Pro q3 and finds flaws in the Ableton Eq. What i am trying to say is that i dont believe that easily that using 80bit floating point all of the sudden automatically make this "a league of its own" Eq. I would have to see comparisons to other high end Eq`s with proof. Until then its just a theory. What triggered my thought was that the GUI of MasterQ2 looks a bit 90`s and the Eq Curve line graphics is ..... a bit like Arcade games revisited. The used extra large pixels for the line. This simply does not look like they gave it much love in the Aesthetics department and looks like the cousin of the one that coded the Eq was allowed to do the GUI design but she-he did not yet arrive in 2021. Take what i say with a grain of salt and a bit of humor as it is meant in a funny way but with a little bit of truth inside. peace , and love your channel!
Not a dumb question but typically yes it's best done as a different session (different engineer) because it's a different discipline - a different mode of listening entirely. "Bigger picture" and context of the whole release, rather than dissecting a mix. Knowing when to leave something alone is also a bigger part of it than many realize.
Not necessarily - the real key is to ensure that the lines are going up and down rather than skewed at an angle to the left or right. If there's a skew to the signal, that indicates a phase rotation issue.
while streaming services do have their standards for LUFS, it's usually very genre dependent, and it's common to see LUFS ranges anywhere between -20 and -7 depending on the type of music before it hits various platforms (and gets put under loudness changing if it's outside of the specifications)
From my understanding, some music on RUclips hasn't yet been subjected to their LUFS standards. I guess it takes RUclips a while to go through and normalize things and some older videos are exempt from this. However, I've even noticed that with a few of my own uploads where RUclips either hasn't normalized them yet, or seems to not want to normalize them.
not no-one, but I would agree not enough people to effect streams/performance. I've accumulated over 200million streams on tracks A) without mastering at all and B) with all stock and free plugins
Rubbish, There is no fixed mastering chain. Serve the music. Experience, and a great mix will tell you what is (and *isn't*) needed. I'd also encourage (shock) listening: EQing *without* spectral analyzers.
I"m not sure who your clients are, but there is not a single song on the Billboard hot 100 that is mastered to -14 LUFS, every single one of them is much more like -8 to -6 LUFS.
What are your favorite mastering plugins? 🤔
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Hey Cameron quick question for you, is there a plug in for Cubase Pro 11 that can make your voice sound like a 1930s radio broadcast ???
The Softube's "Weiss Maximizer" ! It is a very good one. Because it's not changing Sound !
I have to admit that I'm not really a fan of the genre of music that you typically produce (I am more of a hard rock and metal guy), but I'm so happy I found your channel because you're always so articulate with how you explain things and it's really evident how much time you put into each video. Thanks bro! Your expertise is greatly appreciated! 🍻
Haha well hey glad the channel has been such a helpful resource for you! When it makes sense, I try to keep everything as agnostic as possible to explain core concepts and ideas so that everyone can apply them to whatever they see fit. Glad to hear all the work that goes into it isn't for nothing!
Cheers! 🥃
@@VenusTheory cheers for sure, and happy belated birthday dude! 🍻🎂
You are not lying about the melda free bundle. The Mtremolo plugin is probably the most comprehensive volume shaper out there with some very musical randomize features. you have to make sure the phase is set to 0 degrees though otherwise it can be frustrating.
Melda's free collection is probably one of the best things out there in free plugin land. It's incredibly impressive how versatile their plugins are!
@@VenusTheory I was able to find someone who sold me the full license on knobcloud for 30 instead of 50 and i really like the sturator with the over sampling
If you want to remove the limitations of the free bundle (for instance being able to resize the window or save presets), keep an eye out during the Black Friday sales. It's been $25 (50% off) previous years.
@@firqorescu It's 50% off right now for the month of November, in fact.
Melda is great though with the tremolo i get some static clicks like a fuzz sound very strange and annoying
Those look like a win. Mastering is such a mystical dark art and you look to have found easy mode for it! I have the Melda drumkit and love it and this looks like a whole lotta more good tools from them. Thanks
Mastering is a whole other ballgame for sure. Definitely going to have to save this chain for future fast turnaround gigs!
I dig it.
I've been using either Izotope Ozone or TDR Nova behind TDR limiters.
Now that I finallt know the lufs range...I have to do so much adjusting now 😂
Came for the mastering chain suggestion, stayed for the track! Nice!
Glad you enjoyed it haha. Ad music is always fun!
Wow. That was excellent. Straight forward, precise and an awesome result. Gonna need those plugins..thx for this video 🙏🏿💯🔥
2:28 Kirchhoff EQ has a button that activates 117bit processing
Dan Worrall did a video that shows that it nulls with Pro-Q3 with 117bit on, but hey it's there if you need it. Personally i do hear a difference when 117bit is activated but it could be placebo i guess
Thanks as always for premium quality videos!
There is probably a reason that no one else is using 80 bit floating point values and that reason is that 32 or 64 bit floating point values are more than enough for almost anything audio related.
solid info, gotta check into that psp
Howdy. I hadn't heard of Signalizer. Nice find! Have a great day.
Your videos are dope af my friend very very good information
Thanks for this video. It helped me realize that I know absolutely zero about mixing and mastering my music LOL
soundgoodizer, one word, soundgoodizer
Interesting video, and the track even sounds good on a smartphone speaker.
it did before the master though. that kind of translation comes from the arrangement decisions.
Cameron my boy stay awesome 👏
80 bit floating point (extended double) is completely unnecessary. Nobody is going to hear the difference vs 64-bit and you're paying a very expensive CPU cost for it.
Bro make your own video
I just purchased Boost, what a coincidence ✌
Good timing then!
Good demo in Signalizer for what it looks like when it's ok.. but what does Vectorscope look like when it's out of phase?.. what does the spectral shape look like that I should be trying to avoid?
Yo! When a signal is out of phase, it will skew at an angle to the left or right. You can test it out if you have a synth that allows you to offset the phase by feeding it into a vectorscope plugin!
What, no vintage warmer? :D
Shhhh....don't give away the real secret sauce™
I think, that PSP Neon has the same technology as Master Q inside.😊
Can you do a mastering tutorial using simple plugins? nothing that is specific for mastering. I wanna know how to do this iin the classical way.(I think is better a produce know how to do mastering with normal plugins, not specific for mastering, because it means that have good skills.)
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I hate to say it but this track sounds like walmart bangarang lol
I guess the Weiss eq MP is a good alternative to the PSP MasterQ…?
Dude ... love the info and the overall vibe ... but ... the bass (RBass?) is over the top ( : are to shooting for James Earl Jones?
Genetics.dll is a bitch.
Cool! What about the exact frequencies you adjusted with the mastering plugin at first? Thanks a lot
Amazing!
Glad it was helpful!
How about a zero step chain master?
"A good mix doesn't need mastering " - Bob Katz
Definitely good advice - I think a lot of newer producers especially think that mastering is this secret sauce thing that magically fixes a bad mix.
@@VenusTheory absolutely. That's why I love that quote. I practice the preach too. 200 million streams now across tracks with absolutely no mastering and only freeware fx.
A good mix can always be improved upon with some mastering.
@@jetlag1488 oh definitely, just any fresh ears on it can always make a difference too. I don't think any tracks I've released (its in the thousands now) are truly finished. Nothing ever is. The key word in that quote is "Need". a good mix doesn't "Need" mastering, and the longer you do it for a living the more you learn where "need" becomes that significant difference in real world performance. fact is mastering a track to polish the last 5-10% isn't actually gonna make it communicate its message more, touch more people, or bring in more revenue (after deducting the time and cost)
Yeah, in my experience mastering is just making it louder at the end.
1:39 Oh shit.. I thought I was going to get rickrolled.. 🤣
I have a theory i can`t prove. Lets say that only this one has "80 bit floating point" and everyone else 32 (?) .
Thing is same as in mastering, more important is knowing what you are doing than having the best equipment. Only a good engineer will make the best out of ... anything
so in plugins lets take "everyone else" that are using 32 bit (or whatever they use , i dont know but its not 80bit , for the sake of argument).
But in the real world,,, not every Eq using 32bit sounds the same as any other eq using 32 bit. Some have seriously flawed coding and cramp and do other funky stuff too.
And i am not talking about Analog Emulating vsts. One example would be the comparisson by Dan Worall where he compares Abletons Eq8 to Pro q3 and finds flaws in the Ableton
Eq.
What i am trying to say is that i dont believe that easily that using 80bit floating point all of the sudden automatically make this "a league of its own" Eq.
I would have to see comparisons to other high end Eq`s with proof. Until then its just a theory.
What triggered my thought was that the GUI of MasterQ2 looks a bit 90`s and the Eq Curve line graphics is ..... a bit like Arcade games revisited. The used extra large pixels for the line.
This simply does not look like they gave it much love in the Aesthetics department and looks like the cousin of the one that coded the Eq was allowed to do the GUI design but she-he did not yet arrive in 2021.
Take what i say with a grain of salt and a bit of humor as it is meant in a funny way but with a little bit of truth inside.
peace , and love your channel!
Doesn't a tool like Ozone Elements do pretty much the same thing re: mastering?
Same question I have.
Does the Ursa DSP more or less "replace" something like a sonnox inflator, like are these doing similar jobs?
They are both limiters/compressors to my knowledge. you would use one or the other
Dumb question but is mastering done in a seperate session to mixing?
Not a dumb question but typically yes it's best done as a different session (different engineer) because it's a different discipline - a different mode of listening entirely. "Bigger picture" and context of the whole release, rather than dissecting a mix. Knowing when to leave something alone is also a bigger part of it than many realize.
Wait, so on that last freebie plugin, if that image is really wide, thats a bad thing? It means you have stuff that is canceling each other out?
Not necessarily - the real key is to ensure that the lines are going up and down rather than skewed at an angle to the left or right. If there's a skew to the signal, that indicates a phase rotation issue.
@@VenusTheory Ah that makes sense, thank you!
Use paz analyzer to analyze anti-phase.
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The real easy mode
@@VenusTheory 🤣
One thing I don't understand is some professional music on RUclips are like -8 or -7 even though RUclips recommends -14 lufs.
while streaming services do have their standards for LUFS, it's usually very genre dependent, and it's common to see LUFS ranges anywhere between -20 and -7 depending on the type of music before it hits various platforms (and gets put under loudness changing if it's outside of the specifications)
From my understanding, some music on RUclips hasn't yet been subjected to their LUFS standards. I guess it takes RUclips a while to go through and normalize things and some older videos are exempt from this. However, I've even noticed that with a few of my own uploads where RUclips either hasn't normalized them yet, or seems to not want to normalize them.
unpopular opinion: in dirty bass music, no one can hear the difference between an 80 bit EQ and your DAW’s stock
and all of the weird aggressive distortion happening before makes it redundant aswell
not no-one, but I would agree not enough people to effect streams/performance. I've accumulated over 200million streams on tracks A) without mastering at all and B) with all stock and free plugins
N9ce
I prefer Grand Finale
Rubbish, There is no fixed mastering chain. Serve the music. Experience, and a great mix will tell you what is (and *isn't*) needed.
I'd also encourage (shock) listening: EQing *without* spectral analyzers.
PS: there is NO LUFSi "target". Again serve the music.
I"m not sure who your clients are, but there is not a single song on the Billboard hot 100 that is mastered to -14 LUFS, every single one of them is much more like -8 to -6 LUFS.
I think bigger artists get their work mastered specific to platforms, no? So, they master differently for CD, RUclips, iTunes, etc.
sOUNDS the same
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