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if you think your mixes actually improved because you started using an analyzer you should really work on your critical listening skills. the concepts explained in this video are very generic and basic. compression and mid-range improve the perceived loudness. wow, who knew?? that's literally mixing 101.
@@onesoundstudio9684 buy any sound engineering book and read it. start with the basics. delete all of your plugins and only use the stock ones that came with your daw. work on your ear training, read about how records you like were made, learn about "classic" equipment and their history. learn how tu use a mixing desk and understand signal flow. there's so much you can do, but you need a solid base, there are no shortcuts.
Having spent decades in various recording studios, doing production and also mixing - I have to say that the simple rule that I've learned about 'mixing loud' is this. Don't ever do it. Generally speaking, the trick is to mix quite QUIET, and make sure that everything, including every note of the bass guitar - is clearly audible, even on shit speakers, in mono.......In every studio, 90% of the work is done on near field speakers, simply because 'virtually anything and everything sounds amazing on the 'voice of god' (large) speakers'. I worked a lot in 80's, when we didn't even have digital audio, with all it's associated visual representations of the audio signal's waveform. We just used our ears, and listened to our mixes on as many speakers systems, in as many different environments as possible. Usually, we'd limit ourselves to a few minutes an hour of listening to the big speakers in the studio - because of their big threat: Ear Fatigue.......which reduces your capacity to make informed decisions, even at lower volume levels. Hope that insight helps..........Great upload - just trying to add some related context.......
My pleasure. I remember mixing 2 tracks for one of my musical projects back in about 1991. Neil Young had played guitar and sang on our album.......I had to go through his guitar solos and create a cohesive solo (he just started recording, totally unrehearsed, so there were loads of mistakes) Damn, when I think how quick it would have been if I'd had ProTools, etc., instead of having to sync 2 X 2" tape machines together to get the sections in the order I wanted........things were really different in those days, I can tell you. ....When it comes to 'affordable/home recording' we truly live in amazing times.
True, and not just before, ....but it never hurts to reference again during a mix session, if there's something you're really trying to keep in sync with (even previous offerings by the same artist, etc.).......
This is tutorials has to be. A simple example that almost everyone can understand and then showing how this appears in the actual mix. Top content as always!
3:41 - that's right, many ppl think that way, but honestly, there is no magic wand in mastering music (I run Mastering Studio in London for over 10 years btw), if the mix is poor- the master won't help it, simple as that, mastering is not about correcting bad mixes or/and bad recordings/production. Mixing is for correcting bad mixes:). Anyway, I absolutely agree on your point - the creation/production stage is crucial, choosing a bad kick will ruin your song.
Help me understand what mastering is for then. If we’re saying that ideally the mastering engineer has no job, then … I interpret that to mean the mastering engineer’s job IS to try to fix what should have been done well initially but wasn’t. If not, what IS the purpose of the mastering process? I don’t think this would seem strange to me if we didn’t consider mixing and mastering two different jobs. Thanks Edit: it sounds like “mastering” is just a quality check by another set of ears that puts on finishing touches. If that’s the case, I still don’t understand why that would be a different specialty than mixing. Pardon my ignorance on the subject-want to understand.
Dealing with transients artfully is really where “loudness” and “punch” dance. Lots of dynamic range in the crest factor will limit the perceived overall loudness by gobbling your headroom with spikes, but keeping *some* transient intact adds punch and impact. It’s a balancing act. Training your ear for transient response is just as important as frequency response. Great video!
This is the way to win the Loudness War. Keeping your track with enough transients to keep it punchy, and squashed enough to be competitive in the music industry. It is an art, as you well said
Just finished your electronic music course! Excited to start your techno course next! I've learned more on your channel than in my four years in college for music. I want to thank you deeply for giving me a solid framework to fall back on and for explaining concepts that used to confuse me so well. I'm finally finishing tracks and starting to feel more confident. I can't thank you enough!!
Hello guys! Maybe some of you know any good site or sheet, in which average peaks for sounds (kick, snare, hats, bass, perc etc) are written? I.E: Kick PEAK is -8 db, while RMS of the kick is -10 db. This kind of information is needed to know how to shape transients better.
One other thing that's really important to keep in mind as well is the idea of average loudness. Your second example could also be used to demonstrate this principle. The RMS value of the second kick was much higher as well. (Harmonic content is definitely a part of that as well). Mr. Bill has some content explaining this extremely well using metering to demonstrate what he's talking about. ruclips.net/video/rZ-XmTGaBso/видео.html
So car and great explanation, im atodidact, that make more dificult to me to undestand some things, but you where clear as water, also thanks for you explanation/tutorial vids, im reaching my own sound thanks to you!
When I started, I was deathly afraid of using limiters. Now, I use them in mixes all the time. It helps so much with dynamics, even when the limiter is doing light work and can’t really be heard.
I've been making beats for 20 years and i am only now starting to mix decently. Most people including myself just slammed everything, for years. Im still not happy with my own mix and mastering but its definitley way more listenable for me. Im so afraid of degrading and ruining my beats by making them too loud. In the 90s things were so much more reasonable
This is really interesting to me, as a massive fan of gatecrasher and early uk house, garage and techno, whenever I hear tracks being uploaded on here from for example 92’, I’m always in awe at how ahead of its time and well mixed everything sounds, I always assumed making music back in the 90’s would have been far more complex, simpler in ways, but then I came to realise anything made on analogue will generally sound fresher and better, then I developed a passion for acid techno produced on the old analogue gear.
@@Deleted11100 Analog or digital.... both are/sound great. I don't know why you brought that up? You'd be surprised how much was digital back in 92 :) samplers, digital synths.... Especially Roland synths with those cards and the EMU sampler modules holy shit :D
What happened to that artist mix from this channel of students or something? Where it showed footage of each person etc.. I can't seem to find it. I was really digging that breakbeat track played early in (maybe opening.)
I really appreciate lessons I can apply the key points to in any Daw! Thanks for that game we played, was mind blowing. Reminded me of learning science in school when the teacher would do magic in front of you and explain it with science
I'm working on a big silly metal song and this video couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Thanks for helping fill in some gaps on why my exports are coming out boneless!
Such a great summary. Looking back on my past songs/mixes, I would always, always, ALWAYS mix the drums (mostly the kick), WAY TOO LOUD compared to the rest of the music. And then would spend all this time with multiband limiters, clippers, loudness enhancers, etc to get it to sound like "finished music" - though something always sounded a bit 'off' when compared to other music I admired. Another thing was always way too much low-mid buildup. That stuff ends up eating up so much headroom, that again, I would turn to multiband compressors followed by multiband limiters, clippers, more limiting, to get things to "sound right". Just pure insanity. Amazing what skillful filtering and simple compression/saturation can do.
Ok so I saw the title of this video and read it as "why YOU sound thin and weak (probably)" and was preparing myself for a whole life improvement video then I realized I read it wrong...
Don't mix high, mix low and don't use limiters on master bus. Gives more room when mastering and teaches you to always check your sounds. I mix around -10db
this was a great Informational video ! wow especially that first tip haha that really clicked for me, for the first time even tho I heard it before I could't understand it until now.
The strange thing for me, I lesrned this a couple of years ago and just like every other thing, as the time is spending i forget them😂 sometimes I need somethings to re-memorize haha, thanks for your videos, they are all so helpful💪🖤
Good video and well explained about transients and how they affect loudness. The most important aspect of loud mixes isn’t addressed. But that is very common and not often talked about. Nice presentation!
@@jimmypierson1980 Hi Jimmy. The answer is masking. In my opinion dealing with masking is the most important aspect to manage in a mix to have clean and loud mixes. 👍🏻 so good monitoring is important to address this.
0:58 THIS!! You have no idea how long it took me to realize tons of compression and heavy limiting isn’t necessary for a loud mix/master, and it has completely enhanced the quality of my mixes since.
Hello Oscar. I find your video's very useful. But I have a request. Can you do a video on only side chaining? Preferably on reason, but I'm not mad if you do it via Ableton. I'm struggling on making an good sound wall with a good side chain in it.
Solo un cuore e un like??? Cavolo Oscar,da puro italiano ti confido e parlo senza maschera o filtro, ovviamente con tanto rispetto.... Veramente mi sto guardando i video di anni fa perché sono perle! O tuoi Input, immediatamente nel cervello,e utili come non mai ! Purtroppo dopo 15 anni a suonare nei club,radio,open dance hall,5 festival,4 love boat and Resident DJ 5 anni (gli ultimi, non andavo più in giro a parte pre-disco ,come After, After tea, The after of the After, etc.)in un bel club che ogni weekend,ospitava dj internazionali (no Carl cox & Friends😂) tipo Spencer Parker,&me,Reboot,Frivoulus, Nastya, Markantonio,Dan Ghenacia,Argy, Leo Mas, Marco Bellini ecc ecc . E in principio i primi 5 anni dove o ero resident per la stagione,o due sabati al mese,2 giovedì etc.,suonavo spesso prima del guest perché ben saprai molti iniziano anche mezz'ora un ora dopo,causa la pista non è full! Devo dire è stato utile, perché Ok,la mia politica o l'unica " regola", è mai suonare quello che non t piace o suonare cose da radio che le suonano al luna park (senza offendere nessuno),ma capire quando stravolgere il tuo filo conduttore,la tua storia,quella energia che le prime volte ti faceva tremare le mani e avevi il braccetto dei TECHNICS per poi essere dipendente da quella fantastica e indescrivibili energia!! quindi stravolgere il mix,ma restando nei margini con quell'impronta più facile più allegra, spensierata e poi switch di nuovo di torna nella via. Tornando alla fine ,dicevo che gli ultimi 5 anni suonavo sempre dopo il guest ,che in principio mi sembrava penalizzante, anche stancante (alle 00.00 eravamo lì),incominciare alle 4.30/5.30,per poi innamorarmi di quella fetta di persone,che sono lì per la musica e divertirsi ,che ogni cambio energico,o Acappella's/Sample mettevo,loro urlavano si emozionavano, e io con loro, è musica che ballerei per una vita, è il mio sound,ricercato,con del lavoro, ricerca ecc, Non volevo vocalist, Iniziavo sempre con lo stesso disco (Dj Rolando 😊🐆) e suonava di bpm alto,ogni volta una sfida il secondo disco, con un Time scratch difficile a volte soprattutto perché il secondo disco è quello che da il via definitivo,e ovviamente da valore al 3'etc(fortuna vuole che ho sempre un 5-6 dischi in testa per ogni canale,tra Loop,sample ,vocal, and tracks. 5 Anni indimenticabili .....)tutto CON IL CUORE E LA PASSIONE!!! .... Tante tracce,mai un EP, solo 2 RMX . Ho la maschine, MODEL 1, CONTROLLER VARI, GIRADISCHI,ETC .. PERÒ MI SONO ARRUGGINITO... DOPO IL COVID 19 QUI È L' APOCALISSE DELLA DISCO E CLUB...CIRCA 40 NELLA MIA PICCOLA "Friuli Venezia Giulia", Mamma mia mi viene da piangere......in più cambiato ancora casa e quindi non ho più il mio studio insonorizzato,fatto ad Ok,gli strumenti "fissi,”wow ma quanto ho scritto? Non ho con cui parlare a parte persone lontane e per questo a suo tempo ho per scherzo aperto il canale RUclips,solo per caricare i dj SET, fatti in lock down da mandare ad amici in Europa, Perù, Brasile e via.... Se vedi il canale da l'impressione di uno senza passione (e in realtà non amo i social anzi,solo per la musica e derivati),un amatoriale ! Poi ascolto la musica e la cosa cambia... Mi piacerebbe che ascoltassi una mia sessione,ecco ta te con sincerità,mi piacerebbe tantissimo un ascolto! E non fantastico mai su queste cose o altre perché ti portano in posti che nn esistono!!! Sto pensando a dei corsi ti chiederò più avanti,ora uso la daw ogni giorno dopo 3 anni! Maschinemk2 mi è più facile, ableton cavolo ho dimenticato....😮😢...troppo alcool & Company, sicuramente! 🙄.... Ti mando un abbraccio forte ❤Love & Passion caro Oscar. 😊
Very useful! I am new to mixing and mastering, and all of what you said made perfect sense. Can’t wait to try out the helpful tips! Thanks for creating this video. Really well done. I will definitely check out your other videos! 😊
Thanks for this!!! I just finished a mix of my song and I kept making it worse and worse, omg, it was so frustrating. I guess I didn't boost my upper mids enough in the vocals! The whole time I was trying to scrub for harsh frequencies and couldn't figure out how to make it sound "warm." Ay yi yi. I don't think I will ever mix my own song again lol. Also is it normal for there to be metallic noises if you scrub really thin in the high end? I don't know if that's typical or my mic just sucks.
Maybe im weird. But i still use Cool Edit Pro to create and prepare samples before i go to my DAW. If i see such peak i just zoom in on that transient and ajust the db's. Always have done that without knowing anything about mastering and compression.
Hi Oscar i have 2 questions... 1st how usefull it is to make an extra EQ with a typ of an Fletcher Munson curve just before the Output to make better mixing desissions? and 2nd pls pls pls tell me/us how you make that acid sound ob your "How much tension is too much tension? Let's talk about Shepard tones!" ruclips.net/video/esutdiG4be4/видео.html i really need to know
@@OscarUnderdog at 1st, thx for your fast reply, i make acid techno, ok i try at least, but never ever get such a great sound out of it. can you make a tutorial, how to make that kind of great sound even before Mastering... and 2nd what you say about that EQ Curve stuff, is it worth to use it?
The rms meter on the second sound has higher value which for the ears means louder.Same peak value doesn't mean both sounds equally loud.The second sound is louder due to higher harmonic content due to distortion/saturation, lower crest factor and smaller dynamic range.Just my 3 cents for whoever is interested.All the best.
My problem is that, with high frequencies, I tend to not like mixes that are really bright. I prefer a warm, maybe even "muddy" mixdown. Am I alone here?
it's worth mentioning that you don't need the spectrometer to tell how much louder the gabber kick is. Ableton's meter shows that its RMS volume is about 6dB higher than the clean one. If there's anything someone with your platform should be imparting to followers learning to make electronic music, it's how to correctly interpret meter readouts. A boring, but crucially undertaught skill.
Hi I have the opposite problem. My mixing is just too good and I am trying to make LoFi stuff, and I suck at it because I am a genetic mixing prodigy. My Dad was a piano mover so...
So, in some meaning, this first kick was born "bad" (without compression etc)? Or, I guess, there are at least few cases you can use it as it is without all that stuff?)) Thanks for tips!!!!
i think u should think twince before using zero latency eq on low frequenies (low cuts below 120hz). i hate dealing with ringing and phase issues. guess less problematic on master cuz a phase flip is not directly causing phase cancellations.
the problem is that sound is mixed too loud without good dynamics in the mix. Recently found Xfer OTT plugin to down compress some channels in the mix.
hey.. love your effort.. can you please make one video for a beginner and default ableton user with max 8 (audio+midi) channel in house or techno production... thank you....
Without even listening to the 2 kick I new they were equally loud because I knew u were going to do that lol... But yeah I know that the reduction between loudest and quitest part in a sound makes it feel lowder, guess that's y, although u said something about frequencies lol :,)...
Beginner here. Why souldn't i duplicate my track in order to have a fuller song? I've noticed that doing that has a great effect while working on the song pre mixing and mastering.
So with that problematic kick and its spike in the transient, what would you do to fix it? Edit the audio sample / delete spike? Swap out for another kick? EQ it?
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This video told me what I did wrong in my mixed for the past 4 years in 6 minutes
Thank you
Fr!! Some of the best info I’ve seen in a bit ✊🏽
if you think your mixes actually improved because you started using an analyzer you should really work on your critical listening skills. the concepts explained in this video are very generic and basic. compression and mid-range improve the perceived loudness. wow, who knew?? that's literally mixing 101.
@@gimmigimmigimmi thank you any video you think I should watch?
We learn with time brother-man
@@onesoundstudio9684 buy any sound engineering book and read it. start with the basics. delete all of your plugins and only use the stock ones that came with your daw. work on your ear training, read about how records you like were made, learn about "classic" equipment and their history. learn how tu use a mixing desk and understand signal flow. there's so much you can do, but you need a solid base, there are no shortcuts.
“Your monitoring situation *might* influence how you’re seeing this sound”
Me, watching through my phone speakers: agreed
Having spent decades in various recording studios, doing production and also mixing - I have to say that the simple rule that I've learned about 'mixing loud' is this. Don't ever do it. Generally speaking, the trick is to mix quite QUIET, and make sure that everything, including every note of the bass guitar - is clearly audible, even on shit speakers, in mono.......In every studio, 90% of the work is done on near field speakers, simply because 'virtually anything and everything sounds amazing on the 'voice of god' (large) speakers'. I worked a lot in 80's, when we didn't even have digital audio, with all it's associated visual representations of the audio signal's waveform. We just used our ears, and listened to our mixes on as many speakers systems, in as many different environments as possible. Usually, we'd limit ourselves to a few minutes an hour of listening to the big speakers in the studio - because of their big threat: Ear Fatigue.......which reduces your capacity to make informed decisions, even at lower volume levels. Hope that insight helps..........Great upload - just trying to add some related context.......
Super helpful, thanks for this! 🧡🙏
My pleasure. I remember mixing 2 tracks for one of my musical projects back in about 1991. Neil Young had played guitar and sang on our album.......I had to go through his guitar solos and create a cohesive solo (he just started recording, totally unrehearsed, so there were loads of mistakes) Damn, when I think how quick it would have been if I'd had ProTools, etc., instead of having to sync 2 X 2" tape machines together to get the sections in the order I wanted........things were really different in those days, I can tell you. ....When it comes to 'affordable/home recording' we truly live in amazing times.
that’s why you listen to references before you start mixing on any speakers lol😭
True, and not just before, ....but it never hurts to reference again during a mix session, if there's something you're really trying to keep in sync with (even previous offerings by the same artist, etc.).......
I found your response entertaining and interesting, but most of all, really resonating......Touché
This is tutorials has to be. A simple example that almost everyone can understand and then showing how this appears in the actual mix. Top content as always!
I absolutely love their content because its no longer than it needs to be. Most youtubers would take 20 minutes to explain the same amount of content.
Ok
It's not a tutorial
@@dirtychump Actual tutorials would demonstrate what he's explaining, that's why they're longer; they're actually tutorials. This is just a lecture
He is a gem
3:41 - that's right, many ppl think that way, but honestly, there is no magic wand in mastering music (I run Mastering Studio in London for over 10 years btw), if the mix is poor- the master won't help it, simple as that, mastering is not about correcting bad mixes or/and bad recordings/production. Mixing is for correcting bad mixes:). Anyway, I absolutely agree on your point - the creation/production stage is crucial, choosing a bad kick will ruin your song.
Always good to have my videos confirmed by veterans who know their stuff :) ✌ thanks for sharing!
My favorite kick is the flying roundhouse but my wife hates when i use it on her
@@Sh0n0 LMAO
Help me understand what mastering is for then. If we’re saying that ideally the mastering engineer has no job, then … I interpret that to mean the mastering engineer’s job IS to try to fix what should have been done well initially but wasn’t. If not, what IS the purpose of the mastering process?
I don’t think this would seem strange to me if we didn’t consider mixing and mastering two different jobs.
Thanks
Edit: it sounds like “mastering” is just a quality check by another set of ears that puts on finishing touches. If that’s the case, I still don’t understand why that would be a different specialty than mixing. Pardon my ignorance on the subject-want to understand.
Dealing with transients artfully is really where “loudness” and “punch” dance. Lots of dynamic range in the crest factor will limit the perceived overall loudness by gobbling your headroom with spikes, but keeping *some* transient intact adds punch and impact. It’s a balancing act. Training your ear for transient response is just as important as frequency response. Great video!
This is the way to win the Loudness War. Keeping your track with enough transients to keep it punchy, and squashed enough to be competitive in the music industry. It is an art, as you well said
This is what I’ve come to learn just recently from hours of practice man I’m glad to know I’m on the right track! Thank you guys 🙏🏽
Wow, this was an amazingly presented tutorial. No bs, interactive, and super informative. Excellent work!
Just finished your electronic music course! Excited to start your techno course next! I've learned more on your channel than in my four years in college for music. I want to thank you deeply for giving me a solid framework to fall back on and for explaining concepts that used to confuse me so well. I'm finally finishing tracks and starting to feel more confident. I can't thank you enough!!
He is probably the best instructor in electronic music. Thanks for another lesson.
Cheers 😁💙
Most of it applies to hiphop aswell, lots of overlap
@@jonathansoko1085 How about trance? Trip hop? Gangsta rap?
Hello guys!
Maybe some of you know any good site or sheet, in which average peaks for sounds (kick, snare, hats, bass, perc etc) are written?
I.E: Kick PEAK is -8 db, while RMS of the kick is -10 db.
This kind of information is needed to know how to shape transients better.
Wonderful, thank you so much. Clear, concise, perfect length of time. Cheers.
One other thing that's really important to keep in mind as well is the idea of average loudness. Your second example could also be used to demonstrate this principle. The RMS value of the second kick was much higher as well. (Harmonic content is definitely a part of that as well).
Mr. Bill has some content explaining this extremely well using metering to demonstrate what he's talking about.
ruclips.net/video/rZ-XmTGaBso/видео.html
Always normalize to the same LUFS value before comparing. Doing this you will find that so many of the “loud mixes” are actually worse.
So car and great explanation, im atodidact, that make more dificult to me to undestand some things, but you where clear as water, also thanks for you explanation/tutorial vids, im reaching my own sound thanks to you!
When I started, I was deathly afraid of using limiters. Now, I use them in mixes all the time. It helps so much with dynamics, even when the limiter is doing light work and can’t really be heard.
My first thought on the opening kick was
"I know whats wrong with it, it sounds like the kicks I use in my tracks" 😁.......... 🙁
I've been making beats for 20 years and i am only now starting to mix decently. Most people including myself just slammed everything, for years. Im still not happy with my own mix and mastering but its definitley way more listenable for me. Im so afraid of degrading and ruining my beats by making them too loud. In the 90s things were so much more reasonable
This is really interesting to me, as a massive fan of gatecrasher and early uk house, garage and techno, whenever I hear tracks being uploaded on here from for example 92’, I’m always in awe at how ahead of its time and well mixed everything sounds, I always assumed making music back in the 90’s would have been far more complex, simpler in ways, but then I came to realise anything made on analogue will generally sound fresher and better, then I developed a passion for acid techno produced on the old analogue gear.
@@Deleted11100 Analog or digital.... both are/sound great. I don't know why you brought that up?
You'd be surprised how much was digital back in 92 :) samplers, digital synths.... Especially Roland synths with those cards and the EMU sampler modules holy shit :D
Why not tell them about the gap between dynamics on each channel in Ableton? It shows you the dynamic range I'm pretty sure.
What happened to that artist mix from this channel of students or something? Where it showed footage of each person etc.. I can't seem to find it. I was really digging that breakbeat track played early in (maybe opening.)
I really appreciate lessons I can apply the key points to in any Daw! Thanks for that game we played, was mind blowing. Reminded me of learning science in school when the teacher would do magic in front of you and explain it with science
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The mixdown is a head Fxxk. Good luck. It does get easier😅
Fletcher-Munson theory - very helpful
I'm working on a big silly metal song and this video couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Thanks for helping fill in some gaps on why my exports are coming out boneless!
My metal is silly too! I love it
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Such a great summary. Looking back on my past songs/mixes, I would always, always, ALWAYS mix the drums (mostly the kick), WAY TOO LOUD compared to the rest of the music. And then would spend all this time with multiband limiters, clippers, loudness enhancers, etc to get it to sound like "finished music" - though something always sounded a bit 'off' when compared to other music I admired. Another thing was always way too much low-mid buildup. That stuff ends up eating up so much headroom, that again, I would turn to multiband compressors followed by multiband limiters, clippers, more limiting, to get things to "sound right". Just pure insanity. Amazing what skillful filtering and simple compression/saturation can do.
Ok so I saw the title of this video and read it as "why YOU sound thin and weak (probably)" and was preparing myself for a whole life improvement video then I realized I read it wrong...
😂
Well done. Thanks music brother. 😊
Incredibly condensed information, awesome!
Compress and run that transient into saturation for a bit of crunchy crispy high-end ✌️
Don't mix high, mix low and don't use limiters on master bus. Gives more room when mastering and teaches you to always check your sounds. I mix around -10db
Headroom is very important
this was a great Informational video ! wow especially that first tip haha that really clicked for me, for the first time even tho I heard it before I could't understand it until now.
If I seen a kick like that I’d just find another kick haha!
Hey mate , without knowing this i was doing it ,usefull 2 confort my way of doing ,thx again & u're still my Electronic arts hero
Ahhh…you’ve inspired me to attempt to produce music for the 1,000th time. Thanks!
The strange thing for me, I lesrned this a couple of years ago and just like every other thing, as the time is spending i forget them😂 sometimes I need somethings to re-memorize haha, thanks for your videos, they are all so helpful💪🖤
That is strange bro. Do you have any spare glow sticks?
Good video and well explained about transients and how they affect loudness. The most important aspect of loud mixes isn’t addressed. But that is very common and not often talked about. Nice presentation!
Can you elaborate ?
@@jimmypierson1980 Hi Jimmy. The answer is masking. In my opinion dealing with masking is the most important aspect to manage in a mix to have clean and loud mixes. 👍🏻 so good monitoring is important to address this.
You feel like a close friend who teach me cool stuff. Maybe its because Im dutch and youre Belgian? Anyway, great explanation and good work!
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your very good
Wow! Great content keep it going 👍🏻
Great video..... I will remember these rules.
0:58 THIS!!
You have no idea how long it took me to realize tons of compression and heavy limiting isn’t necessary for a loud mix/master, and it has completely enhanced the quality of my mixes since.
Sooo gain staging
Man that was awesome what a great explanation. U rock
Don't forget obsessive high pass EQ'ing. I find this with so many beginners
Very informative- thank you
Hello Oscar. I find your video's very useful. But I have a request. Can you do a video on only side chaining? Preferably on reason, but I'm not mad if you do it via Ableton. I'm struggling on making an good sound wall with a good side chain in it.
In a few words: your mix sound weak because you're not good enough, yet. 🙂
Thnx Oscar, thnx! Luv u sooo much, bro!
I love games! I was correct both times. Get in.
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Love to see how this channel bloomed! awesome content, perfectly presented... grande Oscar!
Thanks for the video !
Makes a lot of sense !
Really like your videos. Think your topics are a bit out of the box! Very nice
Solo un cuore e un like??? Cavolo Oscar,da puro italiano ti confido e parlo senza maschera o filtro, ovviamente con tanto rispetto.... Veramente mi sto guardando i video di anni fa perché sono perle! O tuoi Input, immediatamente nel cervello,e utili come non mai ! Purtroppo dopo 15 anni a suonare nei club,radio,open dance hall,5 festival,4 love boat and Resident DJ 5 anni (gli ultimi, non andavo più in giro a parte pre-disco ,come After, After tea, The after of the After, etc.)in un bel club che ogni weekend,ospitava dj internazionali (no Carl cox & Friends😂) tipo Spencer Parker,&me,Reboot,Frivoulus, Nastya, Markantonio,Dan Ghenacia,Argy, Leo Mas, Marco Bellini ecc ecc . E in principio i primi 5 anni dove o ero resident per la stagione,o due sabati al mese,2 giovedì etc.,suonavo spesso prima del guest perché ben saprai molti iniziano anche mezz'ora un ora dopo,causa la pista non è full! Devo dire è stato utile, perché Ok,la mia politica o l'unica " regola", è mai suonare quello che non t piace o suonare cose da radio che le suonano al luna park (senza offendere nessuno),ma capire quando stravolgere il tuo filo conduttore,la tua storia,quella energia che le prime volte ti faceva tremare le mani e avevi il braccetto dei TECHNICS per poi essere dipendente da quella fantastica e indescrivibili energia!! quindi stravolgere il mix,ma restando nei margini con quell'impronta più facile più allegra, spensierata e poi switch di nuovo di torna nella via. Tornando alla fine ,dicevo che gli ultimi 5 anni suonavo sempre dopo il guest ,che in principio mi sembrava penalizzante, anche stancante (alle 00.00 eravamo lì),incominciare alle 4.30/5.30,per poi innamorarmi di quella fetta di persone,che sono lì per la musica e divertirsi ,che ogni cambio energico,o Acappella's/Sample mettevo,loro urlavano si emozionavano, e io con loro, è musica che ballerei per una vita, è il mio sound,ricercato,con del lavoro, ricerca ecc, Non volevo vocalist, Iniziavo sempre con lo stesso disco (Dj Rolando 😊🐆) e suonava di bpm alto,ogni volta una sfida il secondo disco, con un Time scratch difficile a volte soprattutto perché il secondo disco è quello che da il via definitivo,e ovviamente da valore al 3'etc(fortuna vuole che ho sempre un 5-6 dischi in testa per ogni canale,tra Loop,sample ,vocal, and tracks. 5 Anni indimenticabili .....)tutto CON IL CUORE E LA PASSIONE!!! .... Tante tracce,mai un EP, solo 2 RMX . Ho la maschine, MODEL 1, CONTROLLER VARI, GIRADISCHI,ETC .. PERÒ MI SONO ARRUGGINITO... DOPO IL COVID 19 QUI È L' APOCALISSE DELLA DISCO E CLUB...CIRCA 40 NELLA MIA PICCOLA "Friuli Venezia Giulia", Mamma mia mi viene da piangere......in più cambiato ancora casa e quindi non ho più il mio studio insonorizzato,fatto ad Ok,gli strumenti "fissi,”wow ma quanto ho scritto? Non ho con cui parlare a parte persone lontane e per questo a suo tempo ho per scherzo aperto il canale RUclips,solo per caricare i dj SET, fatti in lock down da mandare ad amici in Europa, Perù, Brasile e via....
Se vedi il canale da l'impressione di uno senza passione (e in realtà non amo i social anzi,solo per la musica e derivati),un amatoriale ! Poi ascolto la musica e la cosa cambia... Mi piacerebbe che ascoltassi una mia sessione,ecco ta te con sincerità,mi piacerebbe tantissimo un ascolto! E non fantastico mai su queste cose o altre perché ti portano in posti che nn esistono!!! Sto pensando a dei corsi ti chiederò più avanti,ora uso la daw ogni giorno dopo 3 anni! Maschinemk2 mi è più facile, ableton cavolo ho dimenticato....😮😢...troppo alcool & Company, sicuramente! 🙄.... Ti mando un abbraccio forte ❤Love & Passion caro Oscar. 😊
Oscar knows... nice tips dude.
Whooo !!! Thats cool !! Clear ! THX you !!!
This video is so underrated. People don't realize how much knowledge you can get from this video. Thank you so much for explaining!
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It's funny..before 20 years when minimal was borne everybody use to have kicks with these klicks 💪😁
..great video...thnx👍..keep it on😁💪
I hear that kick mistake soooooo much. Nice one.
One of your best videos. Thank you.
Very useful! I am new to mixing and mastering, and all of what you said made perfect sense. Can’t wait to try out the helpful tips! Thanks for creating this video. Really well done. I will definitely check out your other videos! 😊
Thanks for this!!! I just finished a mix of my song and I kept making it worse and worse, omg, it was so frustrating. I guess I didn't boost my upper mids enough in the vocals! The whole time I was trying to scrub for harsh frequencies and couldn't figure out how to make it sound "warm." Ay yi yi. I don't think I will ever mix my own song again lol.
Also is it normal for there to be metallic noises if you scrub really thin in the high end? I don't know if that's typical or my mic just sucks.
Never heard a fat ableton mix, its always lacks something... dont know why. I switchted DAW.
This was so perfect I'm still staring at my phone.... 👏👏👏👏Solid knowledge💥
Maybe im weird.
But i still use Cool Edit Pro to create and prepare samples before i go to my DAW.
If i see such peak i just zoom in on that transient and ajust the db's.
Always have done that without knowing anything about mastering and compression.
this guy is awesome, thanks for share your knowledge! big up from Brazil
Awesome lesson, thank you 🙏🏼 It made me instantly subscribe 👍🏼 Good Job 👍🏼
Great and brief tutorial
Hi Oscar i have 2 questions...
1st how usefull it is to make an extra EQ with a typ of an Fletcher Munson curve just before the Output to make better mixing desissions? and
2nd pls pls pls tell me/us how you make that acid sound ob your "How much tension is too much tension? Let's talk about Shepard tones!" ruclips.net/video/esutdiG4be4/видео.html i really need to know
I think its phosycon or ABL3, with heavy distortion!
@@OscarUnderdog at 1st, thx for your fast reply, i make acid techno, ok i try at least, but never ever get such a great sound out of it. can you make a tutorial, how to make that kind of great sound even before Mastering... and 2nd what you say about that EQ Curve stuff, is it worth to use it?
You are the MAN❤ thank you
Yeah but taking the peaks off music is why recordings sound so ruined these days. It’s not “mixing loud,” it’s “mixing without peaks and punch.”
This is great. Mixing for years, work in audio. This is very clear !
The rms meter on the second sound has higher value which for the ears means louder.Same peak value doesn't mean both sounds equally loud.The second sound is louder due to higher harmonic content due to distortion/saturation, lower crest factor and smaller dynamic range.Just my 3 cents for whoever is interested.All the best.
My problem is that, with high frequencies, I tend to not like mixes that are really bright. I prefer a warm, maybe even "muddy" mixdown. Am I alone here?
Thank you:)! ...
I tried watching some other guys but they were boring and long winded. You have very little competition:)
it's worth mentioning that you don't need the spectrometer to tell how much louder the gabber kick is. Ableton's meter shows that its RMS volume is about 6dB higher than the clean one. If there's anything someone with your platform should be imparting to followers learning to make electronic music, it's how to correctly interpret meter readouts. A boring, but crucially undertaught skill.
Hi I have the opposite problem. My mixing is just too good and I am trying to make LoFi stuff, and I suck at it because I am a genetic mixing prodigy. My Dad was a piano mover so...
So, in some meaning, this first kick was born "bad" (without compression etc)? Or, I guess, there are at least few cases you can use it as it is without all that stuff?)) Thanks for tips!!!!
Im very much a beginner really so am learning as I go along, this kind of free information/education is so much appreciated!!
Anything free is good for you. Just look at the vaccines.......oh......hehehehehehehehelol
i think u should think twince before using zero latency eq on low frequenies (low cuts below 120hz).
i hate dealing with ringing and phase issues. guess less problematic on master cuz a phase flip is not directly causing phase cancellations.
the problem is that sound is mixed too loud without good dynamics in the mix. Recently found Xfer OTT plugin to down compress some channels in the mix.
Solid explanation 👌🏼
hey.. love your effort.. can you please make one video for a beginner and default ableton user with max 8 (audio+midi) channel in house or techno production... thank you....
Without even listening to the 2 kick I new they were equally loud because I knew u were going to do that lol... But yeah I know that the reduction between loudest and quitest part in a sound makes it feel lowder, guess that's y, although u said something about frequencies lol :,)...
Thanks. And now, I’m off now to quit making music👍🏽🤦🏽♂️🤣
Beginner here. Why souldn't i duplicate my track in order to have a fuller song? I've noticed that doing that has a great effect while working on the song pre mixing and mastering.
Damn it’s like, baphometrix didn’t make this vid….
Should check content.. this copy pasta bs is old as hell.
So with that problematic kick and its spike in the transient, what would you do to fix it? Edit the audio sample / delete spike? Swap out for another kick? EQ it?
Fantastic video. Thank you!
always put -6/-10 db on whole master
nothing on master also like limiter.
THIS WAS PERFECT!! It all makes sense now 😏 time to make some bangers
1:49 am I hearing right? He’s pointing way way above from we’re it really is peaking.
Thanks for humbling me, The Engineer are the the real real. Thanks for posting. Will follow up.
It’s like eating fried foods with fresh vegetables and saying it’s completely healthy. but it also depends on your metabolism
To the point, well expressed with accurate information... what an excellent video.
I found it helpful, thank you very much.
Pausing the video at the half of it to give you my thumbs up cause I've already learned something from it.
Can you show me how to make dynamic range better? It would be very helpful to me in order to get maximum sound within the parameter.