Great video, long but informative, and an extremely good guide for those owning that board. I'll be sure to check out your other videos. I really want my old C15 5600, score back lost.
Very nice. I've wanted to try this but I think I'm pretty happy with how I have my set up with a 3900X. Yes IK there a lot of discussions about degradation at higher voltages on newer Ryzen chips, Buildzoid pointed out with some worst case scenario testing that if it was happening, it was still very very slow so I'm taking my chance. I have a static voltage of 1.31V and maxed my load line calibration settings so it hits about 1.375 at load, I've used this on plenty of Skylake and Kaby lake chips with success so I thought I'd try it, its only slightly higher than stock voltage actually. I used per CCX overclocking so my first 6 cores run at 4.5 GHZ static and my last 6 run at 4.3 GHZ. I am able to get everything at 4.4 stable but Id rather have the higher frequency on some cores. I'm hitting power limits in the ASEGA code probably. I crash every time I try running everything at 4.5 due to power limits so slowing down a few cores let the others run faster. Hitting 81 - 82 C with liquid cooling and this thing will refuse to consume more power and its near the boarder in its current state, Mosfets are chilling at around 70C. I don't have any major benchmarks done but I was able to hit 120 FPS in satisfactory compared to 90 previously while simultaneously running a dedicated server on the same machine.
this is amazing this means i can have a chance to clock my 5800x to 5.1ghz boost however it will let me put my bclk to 101 which is a extra 50mhz so i will just have to use pbo superchanged. which i believe my fastest cores will probably need 1.55 volts
What's your thinking when determining what LLC configuration(s...?) you want to run while overclocking with PBO enabled / Curve Optimizer (per-core) enabled?
Heres my setup. 4.55ghz all core 5.1ghz single core -25 offset across all cores +50 Boost Override No LLC or Voltage Offsets Liquide freezer 2 360 cooler Seems like i did okay in the silicone lottery this time (for a change), under load my effective clocks all match advertised clocks. I want too put it on a aquarium chiller and see what it can actually do.
You might want to get a thermal camera on your motherboard, I had mine boosting high, HWInfo was reporting 60-70°C across the board, CPU and VRM etc... But using a thermal camera I could see the motherboard PCB and components where hitting 115°C. i was using the msi mpg x570 gaming pro carbon wifi, none of the MPG series are really capable of maintaining high clocks, the clocks do go up but the performance is lost due to the excess heat. I have an Asus board being delivered I'll see how it compares, clock wise and performance
That app have great potential but still has problems with load type understanding. When i use a heavy avx that uses 4 cores of my 5600x it uses 4t-6t profile with 1.4V. I know it should do that on light loads but not a AVX one that uses 4 cores on a 6 core cpu :D My cpu ramped to a 90ish C in seconds.
I tried hydra 1.1, but it's so bad better just go with bios instead following this tuned guide CTR 2.1 6r works but not much for zen3, but its superb for old processors like zen2+. I already tested lots of things, still tuning bit by bit....
i tried the pbo supercharger, then i tried to find a different solution to get around the thermal limit arrival which you get using the offset, using the settings you showed my r23 didn't go over 28,500pt @90c, while using vcore “amd overclocking” with offset -100mv, LLC8, bclk 101.15 managed to get over 29.500pt @87c, core 0.1 hit 5.133mhz, anything over 101.15 becomes unstable. I also had to put an EDC limit at 220, probably with better cooling I could get more. i used a godlike x570 for testing
Technically, it could be that every time the core clock is read the frequency is lower than the effective clock between two core clock reads. However, sounds unlikely. I need to check my spreadsheets to see what happened there. Good catch!
I get 5ghz from my 5600 x in very light workloads like browsing using -15 offset in curve optimiser and pbo, it goes higher using fmax and more frequently but the performance always seems to be worse
Lower performance from higher frequencies may be related to "clock stretching". Clock stretching is an AMD safety feature where the CPU would temporarily suspend the clock frequency if the core is unstable (usually due to too low voltage). Since the clock is suspended, the CPU doesn't do any work and thus actual performance is lower. You can use HWiNFO's effective clock to see if clock stretching is happening.
This is an excellent and thorough walkthrough and I thank you for producing it. This is the work of a GOAT and a true enthusiast. Thank you!
Thanks for watching and the words of appreciation! :)
Great video, long but informative, and an extremely good guide for those owning that board. I'll be sure to check out your other videos. I really want my old C15 5600, score back lost.
No doubt the best PBO2 guide out there
Wow. +200mhz Max boost clock while still having -30 on cores. Thats awesome. My 5600x's cores only get to -30 at +0 mhz :D
Very nice. I've wanted to try this but I think I'm pretty happy with how I have my set up with a 3900X. Yes IK there a lot of discussions about degradation at higher voltages on newer Ryzen chips, Buildzoid pointed out with some worst case scenario testing that if it was happening, it was still very very slow so I'm taking my chance.
I have a static voltage of 1.31V and maxed my load line calibration settings so it hits about 1.375 at load, I've used this on plenty of Skylake and Kaby lake chips with success so I thought I'd try it, its only slightly higher than stock voltage actually. I used per CCX overclocking so my first 6 cores run at 4.5 GHZ static and my last 6 run at 4.3 GHZ. I am able to get everything at 4.4 stable but Id rather have the higher frequency on some cores. I'm hitting power limits in the ASEGA code probably. I crash every time I try running everything at 4.5 due to power limits so slowing down a few cores let the others run faster. Hitting 81 - 82 C with liquid cooling and this thing will refuse to consume more power and its near the boarder in its current state, Mosfets are chilling at around 70C.
I don't have any major benchmarks done but I was able to hit 120 FPS in satisfactory compared to 90 previously while simultaneously running a dedicated server on the same machine.
Underrated OC guide!
this is amazing this means i can have a chance to clock my 5800x to 5.1ghz boost however it will let me put my bclk to 101 which is a extra 50mhz so i will just have to use pbo superchanged. which i believe my fastest cores will probably need 1.55 volts
Good job!
Cheers!
What's your thinking when determining what LLC configuration(s...?) you want to run while overclocking with PBO enabled / Curve Optimizer (per-core) enabled?
Heres my setup.
4.55ghz all core
5.1ghz single core
-25 offset across all cores
+50 Boost Override
No LLC or Voltage Offsets
Liquide freezer 2 360 cooler
Seems like i did okay in the silicone lottery this time (for a change), under load my effective clocks all match advertised clocks. I want too put it on a aquarium chiller and see what it can actually do.
I agree. This an an excellent. Thank you.
You might want to get a thermal camera on your motherboard, I had mine boosting high, HWInfo was reporting 60-70°C across the board, CPU and VRM etc... But using a thermal camera I could see the motherboard PCB and components where hitting 115°C.
i was using the msi mpg x570 gaming pro carbon wifi, none of the MPG series are really capable of maintaining high clocks, the clocks do go up but the performance is lost due to the excess heat.
I have an Asus board being delivered I'll see how it compares, clock wise and performance
Simply great
Man... Thank you.
If you use the supercharged or tuned pbo which of the recent boards you've tested get the best results with the same cpu?
I haven't done any specific board to board comparisons, so I can't really say which is better
I'm sure its great video as always
Skatter can you do pbo2 + CO
Versus
Yuri Bubily's Hyrda OC Application? It gets my 5900x to 5025mhz and I think it beats pbo + CO!
Is Hydra OC publicly available? I haven't seen it yet
@@SkatterBencher I'm on Yuris Patron for 3$
That app have great potential but still has problems with load type understanding. When i use a heavy avx that uses 4 cores of my 5600x it uses 4t-6t profile with 1.4V. I know it should do that on light loads but not a AVX one that uses 4 cores on a 6 core cpu :D My cpu ramped to a 90ish C in seconds.
@@AnxStudios did he fix it
how did you get such low cinebench r23 ? did you disable Mt ? 15k is like half what you should get ?
I tried hydra 1.1, but it's so bad
better just go with bios instead following this tuned guide
CTR 2.1 6r works but not much for zen3, but its superb for old processors like zen2+.
I already tested lots of things, still tuning bit by bit....
great video though thks
Can I apply these same settings with the x570 Aorus Master?
Ok but what would be the best settings in bios for warzone 2.0 while streaming on the Same computer
When i start game i see 5250 stable packages core than i play game start i see stable 4975 to 5025 some time above
It that effective clock or reported?
@@LawrenceTimme that should be reported. You cant have your maximum frequency as effective in menu :D.
Stable 5025mhz on any game temp is 35c to 45c it's good for me?
That's way i don't like amd I'm intel user i think i need to change again intel 12gen 12900k
@@vipromeoyt intel does the same thing. It just doesn't report it.
i tried the pbo supercharger, then i tried to find a different solution to get around the thermal limit arrival which you get using the offset, using the settings you showed my r23 didn't go over 28,500pt @90c, while using vcore “amd overclocking” with offset -100mv, LLC8, bclk 101.15 managed to get over 29.500pt @87c, core 0.1 hit 5.133mhz, anything over 101.15 becomes unstable. I also had to put an EDC limit at 220, probably with better cooling I could get more. i used a godlike x570 for testing
Fuck, this numbers are genious. No matter what I do, the CPU never exceeds 90°, even though I'm using air cooling.
what air cooling sytem are you using. Thanks
23:13 31:17 wow, how is it possible to have effective clock higher than core clock?
Technically, it could be that every time the core clock is read the frequency is lower than the effective clock between two core clock reads. However, sounds unlikely.
I need to check my spreadsheets to see what happened there. Good catch!
Please do x5950 video with asus prime pro x570
How can I access CPU ratio? Mine is greyed out. TIA
What CPU and motherboard?
@@SkatterBencher Thank you for the reply but I finally figured out. I've MSI x570s edge max MOBO
r9 5900x 5150mhz :-D on msi x470 gaming plus
yea you need b550 msi unifyx
board would get better results
I get 5ghz from my 5600 x in very light workloads like browsing using -15 offset in curve optimiser and pbo, it goes higher using fmax and more frequently but the performance always seems to be worse
Lower performance from higher frequencies may be related to "clock stretching". Clock stretching is an AMD safety feature where the CPU would temporarily suspend the clock frequency if the core is unstable (usually due to too low voltage). Since the clock is suspended, the CPU doesn't do any work and thus actual performance is lower.
You can use HWiNFO's effective clock to see if clock stretching is happening.
@@SkatterBencher thanks