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Play Dirty: Strapped to the Canon
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- A Wicked Wednesday video where I walk you through 3 RPGs and how to use their canon as weapons in your GM arsenal.
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Thanks for the video. I love games that have this built in. One of the reasosn I love Legend of the Five Rings is that all of teh clan books history sections contradict eahother. It made it fun to have characters hold to one history over another because their clan said so. It's part of why the fantasy campaign I'm desiging has the sterotypical roles of various species enforeced by an unjust governemt. For example, the dwarves are miners who live under a mountain, because the ruling body invaded their world and made the air so toxic that they had to retreat underground.
So YOU are the one player who liked the different histories. ;)
@@JohnWickPresents Games Workshop did the same thing with their army codex's. I love whenever a company does that. It reflects the winner writes the history. I've seen too many real world examples to not think that's how it really works. I love when games do it. I wish more did.
A really good one. Thanks John!
Really like this as an expansion to the original Play Dirty's lesson on twisting player expectations of the game's lore. Love the perspective of asking "who is the narrator?" and "how can I make them unreliable?".
I also found the idea that players can use a game's deep lore to protect themselves from the GM/story a revelatory one. Thank you for putting that into words!
Great video. It is my deep belief that it is almost impossible to run a tabletop game and not "change canon", the longer those players poke around in the world they will end up changing something. I do not think of this as a bad thing, just an alternate dimension. When we played Stormbringer (we like it and Elf Quest more than Runequest), the players at one point managed to stop Elric from bringing on the end, by sending his sword to another plane. I allowed it because the players came up with an interesting way to do it (with the help of an enemy of Arioch), roughly after that the game fizzled out. It turns out when you change a major part of canon that dimension is not as interesting as the others. It was a great lesson to me as a GM and to my players.
thanks for your perspective always a pleasure
I didn't have my glasses on and read "strapped to the corn." This is cool too though. and very helpful!
My group for L5R has old time CCG fans, the old lore keeper that even AEG's writers used to reference for the fiction, and several other long term players. My Rokugan is not canon rokugan. The clans have the same vibes, but are also changed from my understandings of sociology, how power works, and my own studies into East Asian and Japanese history. So we talked about it in session 0 and I told everyone that, and that we were *all* going to be re-learning L5R as a system, and how my Rokugan works that may be different. So by all means ask and share, but don't be surprised if I go "that's cool, but how it works in this Rokugan is like this..."
And I'm looking forward to how that works as both my Ryoko Owari and Otosan Uchi group are going to be running into Yakuza type analogs soon. And I may steal that wheel idea for the secret Emperor's brother making a grab for power. My goal is to get at least one PC to change sides.
Greta video, it is pretty much how I run games. But I had quite a struggle to get there, living in Germany. Here the Dark Eye is the game that was for many the first RPG they played. And in it they love to point out that if you deviate in any form from anything they tell you in the books that you then no longer be part of the official setting. This need to hold to the canon thus became a very dominant view within the German RPG scene. I departed from that decades ago by now, in favour of having much more personal stories instead of the meaningless setting emulation so many people want.
Aren't the Githyanki not just the American Empire writ large across Astral Space?
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This is pretty fun, nice to see stretching and avoiding the canon. Especially Glorantha. That God Learner joke made me almost do a spit take.
Canon being the shield of the player against the GMs? Yeah. That might be true.
As an aside, the Githyanki first appeared in White Dwarf's 'Fiend Factory' and were invented by Charles Stross (of 'Laundry Files' fame).
Yep! I'm gonna have to go back to that article and figure them out. :)
Wait until you see what I am doing with Palladium Aliens Unlimited in my next campaign...there is narrative in there that I am taking some of it and the rest spinning it on its head. The Atorian Empire for those who know it particular.
Really prefer the 1e Vampire setting