It is hard to say which I like better. When it comes to using a bucket loader or when you have to do some extreme maneuvering, hydrostatic is the name of the game. But when it comes to towing or pulling, I would prefer a manual since it doesn't slip or wear out as fast. I use both here on the farm and I feel like the preferences between manual and hydrostatic greatly depends on the application the tractor will be doing. That's just my two cents.
Mahindra. For when you thought Chinese manufacturing was low quality, India is here to teach you how it's really done if you have minimum work ethic and maximum hatred of your customers.
Interesting to see Kioti offers a tractor with no shuttle shift and for a few more buy the Shuttle or the Hydro cause in loader ops you will cycyle faster and less operator Fatigue unless your doing work with rear implements all the time would be fine with no shuttle
Nice video, and thank you, but you've got to get a wireless mic for your video... couldn't watch it at work as I had to keep adjusting my volume on my computer.
On a shuttle shift, once your in a a range and gear the purpose of the shuttle is to go forward to reverse without using the cluch. The ability to go forward to reverse of a hydro but the fuel savings of a gear trans. Plus for every forward gear you have an equal number of reverse gears.
I personally like shuttle shift I've driven a john deere 4710 and it was super easy to drive and I didn't have to use clutch every time I shifted just for first
Thanks so much for the very comprehensive demo, I have been agonizing over this decision. Everybody says, "it depends on what applications you will use the tractor for", but that isn't very helpful, since I need it for a wide variety of applications. I worry about the power loss with HST, but you said it's only 1 HP or so. I also worry about clutch replacement, and the possible wearing out of an HST tranny. Hmmmm, decisions decisions, lol.
I know your post is 4yrs old. Have you decided on a tractor yet? I recently ordered a shuttle shift TYM/Mahindra 2515 R. I wanted the clutch and gear drive grand for longevity and torque for hilly areas and wooded areas. I know the hydro would be mush easier to operate and I’m sure there will be times I’m wishing I would have bought the hydro static but I don’t plan on being stupid and o do plan on learning how to use it properly. I’ve seen a lot of tractor owners that were Very pleased with the gear drive. My salesman actually talked me into the gear drive as he said the hydros will lack torque and sometimes you’ll be at the mercy of the machine if it strains gojng up a hill due to the hydro lag and torque loss. Also the hydro trans is about $8-k to rebuild or replace and the manual trans full rebuild is roughly $4-k. I’ve driven hydro equipment and like it but I don t want issues as the hydro really taxes the engine and throws off a lot more heat as a result.
I would like to see a pulling test with same model of tractor, tires. Hydro vs Gear. I would say the Gear will outperform on pulling compared to the Hydro.
I've seen videos with that done and the the geared tractor had about twice the amount of pulling power as the HST. The heavier the equipment the bigger the difference translated to the ground.
ya, definitely. That's the first transmission demo I've seen like this. And I'm amazed at how he can jump from one brand of tractor to another and be totally comfortable with it.
Great info - thanks Marshall. Questions regarding the operation of the power shuttle on hilly/mountainous terrain... (I know the transmissions you've discussed do not include the power shuttle but this seemed the best place to ask my questions as I haven't found any videos discussing power shuttles vs other transmissions). Suppose you are stopped on a steep hill, engine running, nose pointing straight up the hill. Must you brake to remain stopped or will the shuttle hold you in place while it's in the neutral position? Now suppose you want to move forward up the hill... What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to change gear (different range or speed) and move forward up the hill? If the brake is involved, must it be released gradually only as the tractor begins to move forward in order to prevent the tractor from rolling backward first? Is the sequence different if you don't need to change gear? Regardless of whether the gear must be changed, is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation (for example if the selected gear was too high for the slope or throttle was set too low)? Is there any difference if the nose is pointing down the hill and you want to back up the hill? Is there any difference when in 2wd vs 4wd? Any dependencies on traction conditions? Now suppose the tractor is heavily loaded and you are descending the steep hill (either forward or reverse) at an arbitrary speed (sane or otherwise). What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to come to a stop? What is the sequence to change direction? Change range or gear? Is there a period wherein the transmission is in neutral or clutch is disengaged such that the tractor gains speed? Is there any risk the transmission will not engage the next gear/range/direction, or the clutch will not re-engage? Is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation? Is a manual shuttle better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why? Is a hydrostatic transmission better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why? From what I've read in forums, an HST (hydrostatic transmission) is better suited to navigating hilly terrain and (if true) I would get an NX6610 with HST and wouldn't be so concerned about the details of the shuttle transmissions... But for most of the work I would like to do, the larger RX series tractors, with shuttle options only, are more suitable. Note that I'm as much (if not more) interested in reliability/longevity concerns as I am in operational concerns. I've gotten by with a Ford 851 powermaster (2wd w/ good clutch but touchy brakes) in these scenarios, and so have become pretty proficient with dual brakes, clutch, and non-synchro transmission.... but hoping that tens of thousands of dollars will buy me something not so hard on my nerves. :-) Thanks in advance... I know these are very detailed questions that will be a pain to answer comprehensively and clearly, but I haven't been able to find the info elsewhere, and I'm sure many folks have similar questions.
Putting the brake and the hydro treadle on the same side makes using left/right brake impractical. It's very handy to be able to use braking on one side when making tight turns or when directing a floating blade over snow, since steering often doesn't work in that case. So why do they put the brakes and the treadle on the same side??? I wouldn't notice this except that my tractor (different brand) has the same setup.
Thats an easy answer........the newbie enginier or whomever made the plans for tractor never ran tractors.......or at least enough to say they are effieciant running one so after people like us ask for dual brakes ......they just stick shit in were they want. It all looks good on paper or a computer screen when your looking at the blueprint
What happens on a standard transmission if you're on a hill and put the clutch in? Will it start rolling or stay still til you put it in whatever gear you want?
Hydrostat for loader work. Its just faster for changing from forward to reverse. Hydrostatic is the automatic transmission of tractors. Just move your foot to change from forward to reverse. You want a cruise control for field work with hydrostatic, otherwise you have to hold the pedal the whole time. Manual can be brought to speed, let go of the throttle lever and it will run that speed until it hits something or runs out of fuel. This is great for mowing a large pasture.
I just got a low end Branson with hydrostatic. The default for Branson is with cruise control and the linked pedal. Its looking like it will be a really good tractor for the price.
He didn't explain properly. Hydrostatic doesn't just take horsepower away from your PTO. It removes all moving parts that will wear, no transmission, no brakes, no brake pads to change out, etc. It's a great concept. The problem is in execution. China, India, and other third world countries hate their customers with a passion, so they put zero work ethic in. Their products will still break, even things designed to last forever. And when a hydrostatic system goes it will cost you a LOT. Maybe more than the wear and tear it saves. So you can't get a cheap-o one and expect to save money long term. Look at lawn mowers, ride ons. Many of them are HST. And the first thing to fail in the first year of ownership? The HST. And it'll cost you 25-50% of the bloody buy price to repair.
Honestly both in this day and age are very reliable. Both meant to last forever with proper maintenance and fluid changes. If doing tons of forward and reverse work then HST is the way to go.
A featureless manual, ie clang and bang. But you can't even shift those on the go. The more you put on to that shuttle, power shift, power shuttle the more things that can go wrong.
The little Kioti definitely sounded like it had some 'rap' at idle and low rpm under load after it was first started. It went away a bit after he throttled up and seemed to be un-noticeable after the oil thinned and pressure came up by the time he was backing up. Def something funny sounding though. Not diesel knock, sounded like some piston slap or rod bearing clearance. Then again, I wasn't there with my ear to the crankcase.
Great info - thanks Marshall. Questions regarding the operation of the power shuttle on hilly/mountainous terrain... (I know the transmissions you've discussed do not include the power shuttle but this seemed the best place to ask my questions as I haven't found any videos discussing power shuttles vs other transmissions). Suppose you are stopped on a steep hill, engine running, nose pointing straight up the hill. Must you brake to remain stopped or will the shuttle hold you in place while it's in the neutral position? Now suppose you want to move forward up the hill... What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to change gear (different range or speed) and move forward up the hill? If the brake is involved, must it be released gradually only as the tractor begins to move forward in order to prevent the tractor from rolling backward first? Is the sequence different if you don't need to change gear? Regardless of whether the gear must be changed, is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation (for example if the selected gear was too high for the slope or throttle was set too low)? Is there any difference if the nose is pointing down the hill and you want to back up the hill? Is there any difference when in 2wd vs 4wd? Any dependencies on traction conditions? Now suppose the tractor is heavily loaded and you are descending the steep hill (either forward or reverse) at an arbitrary speed (sane or otherwise). What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to come to a stop? What is the sequence to change direction? Change range or gear? Is there a period wherein the transmission is in neutral or clutch is disengaged such that the tractor gains speed? Is there any risk the transmission will not engage the next gear/range/direction, or the clutch will not re-engage? Is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation? Is a manual shuttle better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why? Is a hydrostatic transmission better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why? From what I've read in forums, an HST (hydrostatic transmission) is better suited to navigating hilly terrain and (if true) I would get an NX6610 with HST and wouldn't be so concerned about the details of the shuttle transmissions... But for most of the work I would like to do, the larger RX series tractors, with shuttle options only, are more suitable. Note that I'm as much (if not more) interested in reliability/longevity concerns as I am in operational concerns. I've gotten by with a Ford 851 powermaster (2wd w/ good clutch but touchy brakes) in these scenarios, and so have become pretty proficient with dual brakes, clutch, and non-synchro transmission.... but hoping that tens of thousands of dollars will buy me something not so hard on my nerves. :-) Thanks in advance... I know these are very detailed questions that will be a pain to answer comprehensively and clearly, but I haven't been able to find the info elsewhere, and I'm sure many folks have similar questions.
Great questions. A Rx series has the powershuttle option. Generally the only way a powershuttle can be hurt is when there is an excessive load put on the machine. Examples would be trying to push a snowpile that is over sized for the machine, or going up a hill and trying to pull something to heavy for the tractor. In a straight shuttle shift the tractor would normally stall out in these applications. While in a powershuttle it will put more wear and tear on the hyd clutching system and it might be harder for the opperator to notice. So in these applications I would reccomend and straight shuttle or HST. However if you know your limits the Powershuttle is the way to go. Also in the powershuttle going up a hill you would want to try and not shift, or if you did you would prob want to use the designated clutch pedal as it gives an instant clutching and allows the tractor to change gears faster. While the powershuttle detent clutch button on the rx is delayed and would most likely allow the tractor to slightly roll back unless brake is depressed. However once you learn the machine , I don't think you will be shifting on the hill all the time. I hope this helps.
@@orchardhillfarmequipment4347 Thanks Marshall. I'm leaning towards getting the "straight" shuttle aka "syncroshuttle" rather than the powershuttle as I'm quite used to using a clutch, and think I would like the additional control and, perhaps, longevity, of this simpler system. I think being able to feel the clutch engagement (through the manually operated pedal) would help with being able to control the brake properly while starting or stopping on a hill. I've read that the powershuttle has a multi-plate wet clutch vs the single plate dry clutch of the syncroshuttle, presumably to handle the additional stress and heat generated by a system that is, perhaps, "riding" the clutch a bit as directions are changed.
This was precisely what I was looking for...a description AND demonstration of the different transmission types. Thank you.
Really good video, especially the explanation of how it's different from a stick in a car.
Best video I've seen so far to show transmission types
Thanks for watching!
Facts
Exactly what i needed to see about the different transmissions.
It is hard to say which I like better. When it comes to using a bucket loader or when you have to do some extreme maneuvering, hydrostatic is the name of the game. But when it comes to towing or pulling, I would prefer a manual since it doesn't slip or wear out as fast. I use both here on the farm and I feel like the preferences between manual and hydrostatic greatly depends on the application the tractor will be doing. That's just my two cents.
very well said! Very much agreed! We use both manual transmissions and hst transmission tractors on our farms. Definitely depends on the application!
How to get a nut out of a Massey Ferguson transmission
Great Job watching from Arkansas
This is the most clear explanation and demonstration of tractor use and transmission types.
Great video, I’m impressed how you took time to explain. I did actually wanted only hst vs power shuttle but no question is dumb.
Mahindra. For when you thought Chinese manufacturing was low quality, India is here to teach you how it's really done if you have minimum work ethic and maximum hatred of your customers.
Absolutely love my Kubota L3800 standard transmission tractor. It's a workhorse.
very useful, thank you.
thanks! my questions answered!
Interesting to see Kioti offers a tractor with no shuttle shift and for a few more buy the Shuttle or the Hydro cause in loader ops you will cycyle faster and less operator Fatigue unless your doing work with rear implements all the time would be fine with no shuttle
I love the kubota hydrulic shuttle wich doesnt have to use clutch
Really helpful - thanks
Nice video, and thank you, but you've got to get a wireless mic for your video... couldn't watch it at work as I had to keep adjusting my volume on my computer.
Great video Marshal!!
Invest in a muffled microphone blue toothed to the camcorder it’ll help make your videos better
Thank you, awesome to the point video.
Love my Kioti 3510SE HST!
On a shuttle shift, once your in a a range and gear the purpose of the shuttle is to go forward to reverse without using the cluch.
The ability to go forward to reverse of a hydro but the fuel savings of a gear trans.
Plus for every forward gear you have an equal number of reverse gears.
I personally like shuttle shift I've driven a john deere 4710 and it was super easy to drive and I didn't have to use clutch every time I shifted just for first
Thanks so much for the very comprehensive demo, I have been agonizing over this decision. Everybody says, "it depends on what applications you will use the tractor for", but that isn't very helpful, since I need it for a wide variety of applications. I worry about the power loss with HST, but you said it's only 1 HP or so. I also worry about clutch replacement, and the possible wearing out of an HST tranny. Hmmmm, decisions decisions, lol.
A clutch is cheaper then getting a whole transmission done
I know your post is 4yrs old.
Have you decided on a tractor yet?
I recently ordered a shuttle shift TYM/Mahindra 2515 R.
I wanted the clutch and gear drive grand for longevity and torque for hilly areas and wooded areas.
I know the hydro would be mush easier to operate and I’m sure there will be times I’m wishing I would have bought the hydro static but I don’t plan on being stupid and o do plan on learning how to use it properly.
I’ve seen a lot of tractor owners that were Very pleased with the gear drive.
My salesman actually talked me into the gear drive as he said the hydros will lack torque and sometimes you’ll be at the mercy of the machine if it strains gojng up a hill due to the hydro lag and torque loss.
Also the hydro trans is about $8-k to rebuild or replace and the manual trans full rebuild is roughly $4-k.
I’ve driven hydro equipment and like it but I don t want issues as the hydro really taxes the engine and throws off a lot more heat as a result.
Very helpful.
I would like to see a pulling test with same model of tractor, tires. Hydro vs Gear. I would say the Gear will outperform on pulling compared to the Hydro.
I've seen videos with that done and the the geared tractor had about twice the amount of pulling power as the HST. The heavier the equipment the bigger the difference translated to the ground.
Thank you this vid... it was very good and helped me make a decision.
Still thanking you in 9/2020
Do all the DaeDong engines sound like they have a rod knocking?The kioti 2610 sound like it has a rod knocking.
Very interesting informations. Thank !!
Thanks for watching
ya, definitely. That's the first transmission demo I've seen like this. And I'm amazed at how he can jump from one brand of tractor to another and be totally comfortable with it.
Great info - thanks Marshall.
Questions regarding the operation of the power shuttle on hilly/mountainous terrain... (I know the transmissions you've discussed do not include the power shuttle but this seemed the best place to ask my questions as I haven't found any videos discussing power shuttles vs other transmissions).
Suppose you are stopped on a steep hill, engine running, nose pointing straight up the hill. Must you brake to remain stopped or will the shuttle hold you in place while it's in the neutral position?
Now suppose you want to move forward up the hill... What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to change gear (different range or speed) and move forward up the hill? If the brake is involved, must it be released gradually only as the tractor begins to move forward in order to prevent the tractor from rolling backward first? Is the sequence different if you don't need to change gear? Regardless of whether the gear must be changed, is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation (for example if the selected gear was too high for the slope or throttle was set too low)?
Is there any difference if the nose is pointing down the hill and you want to back up the hill? Is there any difference when in 2wd vs 4wd? Any dependencies on traction conditions?
Now suppose the tractor is heavily loaded and you are descending the steep hill (either forward or reverse) at an arbitrary speed (sane or otherwise). What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to come to a stop? What is the sequence to change direction? Change range or gear? Is there a period wherein the transmission is in neutral or clutch is disengaged such that the tractor gains speed? Is there any risk the transmission will not engage the next gear/range/direction, or the clutch will not re-engage? Is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation?
Is a manual shuttle better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why?
Is a hydrostatic transmission better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why?
From what I've read in forums, an HST (hydrostatic transmission) is better suited to navigating hilly terrain and (if true) I would get an NX6610 with HST and wouldn't be so concerned about the details of the shuttle transmissions... But for most of the work I would like to do, the larger RX series tractors, with shuttle options only, are more suitable.
Note that I'm as much (if not more) interested in reliability/longevity concerns as I am in operational concerns. I've gotten by with a Ford 851 powermaster (2wd w/ good clutch but touchy brakes) in these scenarios, and so have become pretty proficient with dual brakes, clutch, and non-synchro transmission.... but hoping that tens of thousands of dollars will buy me something not so hard on my nerves. :-)
Thanks in advance... I know these are very detailed questions that will be a pain to answer comprehensively and clearly, but I haven't been able to find the info elsewhere, and I'm sure many folks have similar questions.
Great informative video thank you.
Putting the brake and the hydro treadle on the same side makes using left/right brake impractical. It's very handy to be able to use braking on one side when making tight turns or when directing a floating blade over snow, since steering often doesn't work in that case. So why do they put the brakes and the treadle on the same side??? I wouldn't notice this except that my tractor (different brand) has the same setup.
Thats an easy answer........the newbie enginier or whomever made the plans for tractor never ran tractors.......or at least enough to say they are effieciant running one so after people like us ask for dual brakes ......they just stick shit in were they want. It all looks good on paper or a computer screen when your looking at the blueprint
On a HST you have to ride the peddle to bake turn anyway. And it tropically only gets you another foot foot and a half of turning radius anyway.
Excellent informative video.
What happens on a standard transmission if you're on a hill and put the clutch in? Will it start rolling or stay still til you put it in whatever gear you want?
Straight standard seemed smoothest clutching.
Hydrostat for loader work. Its just faster for changing from forward to reverse.
Hydrostatic is the automatic transmission of tractors. Just move your foot to change from forward to reverse.
You want a cruise control for field work with hydrostatic, otherwise you have to hold the pedal the whole time.
Manual can be brought to speed, let go of the throttle lever and it will run that speed until it hits something or runs out of fuel. This is great for mowing a large pasture.
I just got a low end Branson with hydrostatic.
The default for Branson is with cruise control and the linked pedal.
Its looking like it will be a really good tractor for the price.
What about feed mixer wagon.which one is suitable?
Power reversar tractor best for agriculture purpose or regular models
I could get the job done with any of the transmission type's but I strongly prefer HST.
Thanks very good info
Good Demo!
The second one you shown you can shift as you go?
Great video. How much for the cab Kioti ??
He didn't explain properly. Hydrostatic doesn't just take horsepower away from your PTO. It removes all moving parts that will wear, no transmission, no brakes, no brake pads to change out, etc. It's a great concept. The problem is in execution. China, India, and other third world countries hate their customers with a passion, so they put zero work ethic in. Their products will still break, even things designed to last forever. And when a hydrostatic system goes it will cost you a LOT. Maybe more than the wear and tear it saves. So you can't get a cheap-o one and expect to save money long term. Look at lawn mowers, ride ons. Many of them are HST. And the first thing to fail in the first year of ownership? The HST. And it'll cost you 25-50% of the bloody buy price to repair.
Which one will last the longest
Honestly both in this day and age are very reliable. Both meant to last forever with proper maintenance and fluid changes. If doing tons of forward and reverse work then HST is the way to go.
A featureless manual, ie clang and bang. But you can't even shift those on the go. The more you put on to that shuttle, power shift, power shuttle the more things that can go wrong.
Somebody get this kid a remote microphone.
That Kioti sounds like it was knocking. Yikes.
The little Kioti definitely sounded like it had some 'rap' at idle and low rpm under load after it was first started. It went away a bit after he throttled up and seemed to be un-noticeable after the oil thinned and pressure came up by the time he was backing up. Def something funny sounding though. Not diesel knock, sounded like some piston slap or rod bearing clearance. Then again, I wasn't there with my ear to the crankcase.
Clutching for a shuttle? Not a shuttle lol
Power shift!
On a side note those Kioti engines sound terrible.
No, mahindra sounds like dog shit, I literally just looked at them all and the kioti is hands down a better tractor than mahindra.
"brush hogging"
That's actually what it's called...brush or bush...
@@royjackson9576 no
@@lucashenry9734 Out of curiosity, what do you call It?
@@johnlagreca6288 big lawn mower
@@lucashenry9734 I like it!
Speak into the microphone next time.
Make your own video next time and show us the proper way. Have a little respect, Alex.
Great info - thanks Marshall.
Questions regarding the operation of the power shuttle on hilly/mountainous terrain... (I know the transmissions you've discussed do not include the power shuttle but this seemed the best place to ask my questions as I haven't found any videos discussing power shuttles vs other transmissions).
Suppose you are stopped on a steep hill, engine running, nose pointing straight up the hill. Must you brake to remain stopped or will the shuttle hold you in place while it's in the neutral position?
Now suppose you want to move forward up the hill... What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to change gear (different range or speed) and move forward up the hill? If the brake is involved, must it be released gradually only as the tractor begins to move forward in order to prevent the tractor from rolling backward first? Is the sequence different if you don't need to change gear? Regardless of whether the gear must be changed, is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation (for example if the selected gear was too high for the slope or throttle was set too low)?
Is there any difference if the nose is pointing down the hill and you want to back up the hill? Is there any difference when in 2wd vs 4wd? Any dependencies on traction conditions?
Now suppose the tractor is heavily loaded and you are descending the steep hill (either forward or reverse) at an arbitrary speed (sane or otherwise). What is the sequence of clutch, brake, and shuttle operations to come to a stop? What is the sequence to change direction? Change range or gear? Is there a period wherein the transmission is in neutral or clutch is disengaged such that the tractor gains speed? Is there any risk the transmission will not engage the next gear/range/direction, or the clutch will not re-engage? Is it possible to cause excessive wear or damage to the clutch or other components in this situation?
Is a manual shuttle better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why?
Is a hydrostatic transmission better suited to these scenarios? If yes, why?
From what I've read in forums, an HST (hydrostatic transmission) is better suited to navigating hilly terrain and (if true) I would get an NX6610 with HST and wouldn't be so concerned about the details of the shuttle transmissions... But for most of the work I would like to do, the larger RX series tractors, with shuttle options only, are more suitable.
Note that I'm as much (if not more) interested in reliability/longevity concerns as I am in operational concerns. I've gotten by with a Ford 851 powermaster (2wd w/ good clutch but touchy brakes) in these scenarios, and so have become pretty proficient with dual brakes, clutch, and non-synchro transmission.... but hoping that tens of thousands of dollars will buy me something not so hard on my nerves. :-)
Thanks in advance... I know these are very detailed questions that will be a pain to answer comprehensively and clearly, but I haven't been able to find the info elsewhere, and I'm sure many folks have similar questions.
Great questions. A Rx series has the powershuttle option. Generally the only way a powershuttle can be hurt is when there is an excessive load put on the machine. Examples would be trying to push a snowpile that is over sized for the machine, or going up a hill and trying to pull something to heavy for the tractor. In a straight shuttle shift the tractor would normally stall out in these applications. While in a powershuttle it will put more wear and tear on the hyd clutching system and it might be harder for the opperator to notice. So in these applications I would reccomend and straight shuttle or HST. However if you know your limits the Powershuttle is the way to go. Also in the powershuttle going up a hill you would want to try and not shift, or if you did you would prob want to use the designated clutch pedal as it gives an instant clutching and allows the tractor to change gears faster. While the powershuttle detent clutch button on the rx is delayed and would most likely allow the tractor to slightly roll back unless brake is depressed. However once you learn the machine , I don't think you will be shifting on the hill all the time. I hope this helps.
@@orchardhillfarmequipment4347 Thanks Marshall. I'm leaning towards getting the "straight" shuttle aka "syncroshuttle" rather than the powershuttle as I'm quite used to using a clutch, and think I would like the additional control and, perhaps, longevity, of this simpler system. I think being able to feel the clutch engagement (through the manually operated pedal) would help with being able to control the brake properly while starting or stopping on a hill. I've read that the powershuttle has a multi-plate wet clutch vs the single plate dry clutch of the syncroshuttle, presumably to handle the additional stress and heat generated by a system that is, perhaps, "riding" the clutch a bit as directions are changed.