I'm a photographer rather than a film maker so I find the movie aspect interesting to watch but this is where this channel really vibes for me, I cant see people discussing optics and camera science with this depth and approachability anywhere else on RUclips. This channel is a diamond in the rough and I hope to see a lot more "messing around" from you guys. all the best and have a great 2023.
We are working hard to be as informative as entertaining and challenge people to really understand the things they knew about but never bothered to go deeper, so I a very happy , that you see us in that place. Thanks a lot man!
@@MediaDivision I think I bumped into the f0.7 video you produced 2 years ago, (somewhat by accident), but am Sooooo happy you pursued that to it's logical extent, both technically but more important, ARTISTICALLY. You achieved the tech, as a means to make the art and it shows. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! Media Division FTW 💪 💥😎
For Photography you might want to look into scanner cameras, using a flatbed scanner can be a very interresting way to get high resolution large format images...
Seriously, the final shot of the film is some of the most gorgeous and beautiful cinematography I've ever seen in my life. The fact that you did this stuff just as a hobby and to show what's possible is insane given the effort you and your peers put into these. Your videos never disappoint.
you mean as it has 450K views? For this amount of work you have to think in other dimensions I fear. This is about 800$ in ad revenue@@Automatic-Diaphragm
@@adrianschipor9388 Always trying to improve and to do something worth your time. Do that for 6 years and you get somewhere ;-) Thanks again for your support Adrian. Save the date: Our next episode will be released April 9th 15:00 CEST
As an engineer, I found your process absolutely fascinating. This is one of the best explainers of camera design that I've ever seen; there are so many bad explanations of depth of field across different sensor sizes on the Internet and this is truly a breath of fresh air. As a photographer who's been dabbling with mating "fast" medium format lenses with large format cameras to shoot instant film, I appreciate the inspiration. It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my quest to build exactly the camera I need. And as a lover of shallow depths of field, I'm in awe of The Iron Sea. Thank you.
Thanks a lot Ben… very happy that you see it that way. I think it really good being self taught with everything in this context as it helps to draw out a straight understandable road to whatever your try to explain. I am always happy when I (hopefully) didn't screw anything up. In the end, all knowledge is mute unless you create something worth watching, doing, using, or experimenting. All power to engineering.
I first saw this idea when DIY Perks did his Large format Project, It was great seeing that idea done in a more professional camera envirement. Also seeing it used is great and very intresting. (After reading another comment I need to add this: I'm not implying that anyone has stolen each others idea, I just find it great that such optical projects get more attention on YT. I actually think that both projects show the concept very well and also show how it can be done with different budgets obviusly since you have more experience in this field you could use it better)
People seem to be under the misapprehension that they invited the technique… they did not. like we say in our video, the technique is not new and it has been done by many in many variants. There used to be a facebook group for people with these kind of camera (DoF Adapters and Digital Obscura). The DIY Perks camera did NOT inspire this project. Our camera was functional long before their camera came out. We were very public and vocal about our development, and we have the post to prove it. I don’t know if Perks where inspired by that or not… it doesn’t matter. This is not a “who comes first” things… neither of us was at any stretch. The more important part (at least to us) is what kind of image we can get and what kind of story we can tell with it. The camera itself is secondary. Also, we take the audience along to get a better grasp of things like the “equivalency of lenses” and make education fun. I am very happy that you think that we succeeded in created something worth your time
At any rate great video, great to know that this is a option, which I could use whenever it fits in to a project. I actually really like that I saw it done with diferent gear, just proves that the concept is really a great idea. Love the channel, I first descovered it with the scope films.
What an insane introduction to a channel pushing the limits of what’s possible. Top notch doesn’t even cut it. You’re in a league of your own. Thank you.
Media Division stands alone on RUclips when it comes to quality and content. I can't imagine the endless hours spent making sure everything from build to shooting to narrative is perfect. You could've probably halved the time invested and still put together an amazing video, but I always get the sense that "good enough" doesn't exist in your vocabulary. Thank you for entertaining, informing and inspiring us.
Thanks Derrick… I will say that our demand for perfection got a little out out hand ;-) generous people like yourself make it possible. Thank you so much and much love from myself and the team!
A ticket to the movies indeed. Thank you for making transparent your hard work, and the beautifully hybrid scientific and creative world that is cinematography!
Damn this channel just keeps getting better and better. I had to watch it 3 times to absorb what was happening. This is what RUclips is for. Kubrick would be proud.
Thank you! Was so worth the wait for this video and instilled me with confidence to eventually make one some day soon. I love the low light, DOF, wide viewing angle, and look created by this setup!
Thanks a lot David… we will drink to you! You make independent content like this possible - and we salut you for it. Very happy you find the images good!.
Thanks! Edit: Not much to say thanks, but this is the most beautifully produced camera-hardware-related technical video I've seen in a long while. This question has been something I've wondered about before, regarding how wider (or lower f-stop) will be physically possible. Absolutely fascinating documentary. Insightful! Kudos for the breakdowns too, not that I'll possibly ever be in a position to replicate in my lifetime, I guess, but the thinking process involved in the building is definitely appreciated. Edit 2: And surprisingly, giving my first ever RUclips thanks to a channel I saw for the first time, on their first video I watched. The algorithm must be algorithm-ing indeed
There isn't another channel out there like Media Division. Thank you for the time and effort invested in each brilliant episode. Can't wait to see what's next!
Ihr habt mit diesem Video alles zerstört was ich bisher gesehen habe. Das ist ein Meisterwerk...Es ist nicht in Worte zu fassen welches Level und welch Qualität ihr hier präsentiert...Vielen Dank für alles...LG Fabian
Herzlichen Dank für Deinen Support Fabian.... das Team und ich salutieren! Du machst das ganze möglich! Danke auch für die netten Wort... jetzt muss RUclips das auch noch merken und wir könnten so was die ganze Zeit machen.
@@MediaDivision meine Unterstützung habt ihr definitiv 😃 wir hatten auch oft Kontakt via Facebook aber leider musste ich da weg. Ich schreibe dir mal ne Mail die Tage. LG Maziano 😉
MEDIA DIVISION creates the best photo-geek content. Full stop. I've been "playing" at still photography for 40 years but, with each video you produce, my level of understanding deepens, or, more accurately, my ability to explain these niche topics increases 10 fold. Thank you!
Glad you think so too… so many comments are immediately about "impossibility" to focus… I found it manageable. Thank you so much for your generosity and support James! We salut you. Marry Xmas
Discovered your channel through this video. The pacing, production, explanations, and everything else are nothing short of extraordinary and professional. You've easily earned my support and I look forward to watching your previous and future content.
Thank a lot for your support Hoang. The Team and I salute you. We also thank you for your kindness. We hope you enjoy a nice long binge watch session! These videos are for you!
Thank you for this wonderful work you have done in an environment where ridiculous videos are watched in incredible numbers. Thanks to you, I became interested in photography. Good luck with .
Providing content like that is a game changer for every autodidact in this world. Allowing us to get more comprehension of the physical concepts behind photography. It allows all to get information people studied it in school sometimes never heard of ! I really appreciate it and therefore I thank you, and all people working jointly to create this content ! Keep up the good work
Amazing content guys! Always thrilled to discover what you have created. Really inspiring and educational. Thanks a lot and wonderful Christmas to you all! 🙏🎄
Thanks a lot for your kindness and your support Vibes… very much appreciated. We love and salute you! Hope you had a great Christmas and wish you a happy new year!
Thanks! Just suuuuper cool, educational and inspiring. Makes me want to play some more with my 25mm f/0.95 Voigtländer for MFT again soon. Even though it’s still vastly different worlds. Love your behind the scenes and post-mortem explorations. Do you have plans to shoot more with this system? And yah, the video on Canon FD lenses was also really awesome.
Thanks a lot Clayton… you are very kind and your support makes it possible. We salute you! We did a scene for a feature already (not something you will be hearing of I guess) but our personal exploration of it is probably concluded with this video… but who knows?!
Your Videos are just absolute gold! Thank you for producing such high quality Videos. One can totally see the love to the craft! Keep it up und Frohe Weihnachten!
the quality of your half documentaries, half video essays are absolutely stellar. thank you for sharing how you conquer new problems, but accessibly visualize them.
Im more of a hobbyist photographer, but I always find your videos fascinating and always watch all the way through. Not too many channels can keep me hooked for an hour. Your production value and explanations are always excellent.
Triple thank you Alessandro… for being a member, for the super thanks, and for your kindness… we salute you and through yourselves at your feet ;-) Merry Xmas
Well, I’m 30 minutes in and I can’t takie my eyes away! It is an amazing experience for me to watch and listen to people that clearly know what tey are talking about. I admire your passion and commitement to what you are doping. This video alone is truly beautiful. I recommend everyone to watch it. I will definitely stay with your chanel for a longer time now that I have just discovered it for myself. Again, love the work, and I am now going to continue watching till the end…
Thanks a lot Bartosz... glad you feel edutained. We appreciate your kindness and you hanging around our channel... we have lot's of stuff that might be for you as well.
A very underrated channel. The effort your team puts into your videos is simply outstanding. Well done and please don't stop producing work for this channel.
A 1000 miles journey starts with the first step. In the last three years, I bought plenty of "shoes" and "socks", but I still don't have the courage to make that first step... You are inspiration guys, I wish you all the BEST!!!
Thanks a lot… don't be to hard on yourself. Be your greatest critic, but do it anyways… improve every time a tiny bit. Over time, there will be nothing you can't do. Good luck!
You videos are a rare example of "the sky is the limit". When ever I thought "how to raise the level on the next one?" this next upload gave the anwser. So proud to be a community member 😎
Perhaps the most intruiging, thoughtful, and incredible content I have seen on youtube. So entertaining and so informative. I am just flabbergasted that this content is free. You've got a subscriber for life.
Very nice hardware solution to this challenge. It seems like similar shallow DoF effects could be achieved in software with a depth sensor and a regular camera, using a light field synthetic aperture camera, or even AI techniques. And the software approach allows tweaking in post production. In that context, what was the most appealing aspect you found about the custom camera design to shoot and edit this short?
Thanks a lot for your kindness and your contribution. The division team salutes you. Sure you can use all sorts of techniques to achieve this look (we "fake" it for the Shining scenes in the beginning)... but this episode is really about the optical background to DoF, and the best way to do it, is to actually do it. I always feel that the real thing is better than AI/CGI approach. The latter will always give you what you "expect" or put in it in the first place. The real thing has so much room for the unexpected. The whole piece came out with a whole buch of things I have not expected but loved in the end. Also, humans gravitate to the real thing... there is a quality to it, that is almost impossible to fake, and if you do, took more effort than to just shot it for real. Thanks again James!
I think this is the most valuable video I've seen in years. I'm a focus puller and I work on hundreds of gigs per year with every tech money can buy (for that I'm grateful) and yet this is so far beyond anything we've done. The build you made was pure gold and the focusing solution made me say "wow" out loud👏👏👏 Thank you for the walk trough and detail!
That is wonderful to hear Radostin… we very much appreciate the input of a professional in this matter. Glad you found it useful. I was the one pulling focus and it was surprisingly manageable in the given context … DON'T try this with fast and unpredictable movements. The slow but constant movement helps a ton. Just like in Barry Lyndon… stage the scenes to fit the technological needs and you are good. Thanks again for interacting and hanging around .
This is the first, probably last, video on RUclips that kept me hooked for ~40 minutes straight (i skipped a few parts) in this year. Glad I found a content creator who educates and captures breathtaking videos. Keep up 👌🏻
At least you are the first to say you did… I am very happy that it had an emotional impact on you as that was our intension. Thanks for watching and interacting.
@@MediaDivision he went down there to escape, to think, to be alone, or maybe even to morn and let go, and he found that another part of himself was down there alone for some time before and through it he became whole again.
@@caselaviolette We totally leave the interpretation to the individual in the audience. It could be many things but if this is what you feel it is absolutely right.
you can… info@media-division.de Be aware that we can only do extensive consulting for our Kubrick Members… otherwise we go insane and can't feed children.
That theme song and deutche accent… just triggers abundant pleasant chemicals in my brain. It must like like Star Wars enthusiasts hearing the opening music on a new film they’ve not yet seen. Breathtaking awe and anticipation.
@@MediaDivision Don’t worry your English is perfect; even with flawless W’s! Now how do I get the media division theme song as my iPhone ringtone? I’ve listened to the original song and it’s just not my jam.
How this channel doesn't have 1+ million subscribers is beyond comprehension. Well done guys. Another amazingly interesting and incredibly well produced production.
Thanks a lot Jack… well, to few nerds in the world?!? Or maybe we are not good enough in spreading the word. Always happy for the support of our nerds around here. Merry Xmas
This channel is just insane, but they're probably doing over-quality: to scale up, they'd need to produce content more people can enjoy while dropping their cost basis. Basically like PewDiePie testing a video game in his couch, every single day lol. Depends what you want: money, or building a camera.
@@ypierro with this attitude the world would be all about piling up more and more shit. There is a place for things that matter… things with soul… and I refuse to believe otherwise.
I am genuinely always astounded by the work that you all do. By far, the highest quality of work that I have seen on this platform and I don’t mean that in terms of videography only but just the sheer dedication the team must have to present such a highly informative yet entertaining video in such a innovative way that the video in itself is a work of art. These videos must take so long and so much hard work to create and it is so evident in every second of viewing. I used to look at the duration of these videos and was demotivated to click on them due to how long they were but the second I started watching I fell in love and now always take out the time and enjoy the work of you talented artists.
First video of yours I watched. I am really impressed with the production quality and the storytelling is really nicely paced and thorough. I love it and will be watching more! Thank you for creating something different.
Even the great ONE , Kubrick , would been blown away if he could see this video ☆☆☆☆☆ The skill and talent you guys have , is the best i've ever seen ☆☆☆☆☆
@@MediaDivision i'm sure of it ☆☆☆☆☆ I wish you and your team , a very succesfull and happy 2023 And i hope , i can enjoy your video's lots of years in the future ☆☆☆☆☆ Grtz from the netherlands Johny geerts
truly a channel un like any other. i do a lot of close up shots, stop motion stuff, and i can get these effects with normal lenses since they are all close ups. i have always seen the narrow focus plain as a problem, but watching this, i think i should use it as an advantage when needed.
I think this is basically the same concept that DIY Perks used in one of his videos. But I love the in depth explanation of this Media Division video. Such a cool concept and the results were crazy!! I am going to make one some day
Yes… like we and dozens of others did before them. We definitely did this more for the image we could create with it and the teaching opportunity it gives rather than the camera built itself.
So happy you followed up on this topic. There was of course the video b Über Hoover a few years ago and a few attempts at something similar. Including an interesting combination of anamorphic lenses combined with an anamorphic adapter in the front (so the image is spherical but squeezed in both directions). There is a 29mm (prime prime) f/0.8 lens for MFT, but it's similar dof to a 50mm f/1.4 which people are used to on Full Frame. Yet I still want one. Eventhough it's more like T1.02 (at the center) and T1.8 at the edges. I have a large format camera that's 13.5cm f/4.5 and I have shot dry plates with it. People had to hold still for 10 seconds wide open and the negatives are really really thin. The largest lens I have is a 150mm f/1. But it's not made for visible light but thermal infrared, because the lens elements are made of Germanium. It's slower than your 300mm f/2.8 but faster lenses exist for thermal infrared cameras too, so do telescopes (using mirrors). I believe a patent for a f/0.37 lens does exists, but it's using mirrors and might not be physically feasible. LargeSense 811 is just four LargeSemse 45 joined together. Similar to the Arri 65 sensor perhaps. You can get such sensors much cheaper. Look at X-ray detector plates. They have a sintilaton layer to convert x-rays into visible light due to fluresence. You could remove that layer and end up with a rather large visible light detector. It will be low resolution, large pixels and has some stiching lines. It's essentially what LargeSense sells, ready made for photography. There is a video from Ben over at Applied Science that shows how such a detector plate works (for x-rays). and you can find them on eBay for like 500 bucks. it's a project I have thought about a few times. But been told it's dangerous. The largest digital sensors are 81x81 mm and are made for space telescopes by Teledyne. there is 61x61 "scientific" cameras you can buy starting around 50k for astro cams. These are also actively cooled. There is another reason to use large format. In stills, like landscape you wand really deep depth of field. But stopping down would introduce a loss of sharpness due to diffraction. What many don't realize is that diffraction is inherent, and becomes and issue when the aperture is small. But if you are shooting large format wide angle, your focal length might be 450mm. And stopping down to f/128 will leave your aperture several cm open. So you do not have issue with diffraction. The intro shot made me think Adam Driver, seen too many wide Kylo memes. Turning your room into a camera obscura reminds me of a photographer I once met. They were shooting in an equally giant lens but not on ground glass but glass plates directly. Essentially a window pane that had emulsion brushed onto. And the developer would be sprayed on with a garden hose. The camera and darkroom where an old school gym with a giant separation curtain. There is a story about a pinhole camera the size of an aircraft hangar, with several months of exposure time. And finally if you do VLBI (very long baseline interferometry), your synthetic aperture can have the size of the planet or even the solar system (LISA). But that goes beyond imaging or even filmmaking.
Thank you for all the work you are doing, incredible stuff in a sea of mediocre youtube content. Absolutely worth paying for the membership. Keep up the good work!
I remember using DIY depth of field adapters with the old Canon cameras like the XL1 😁. Enjoyed using those back then. People would use those clear fake CDs and sand them down, then spin those. A Fresnel lens would be used on the lens side to reduce vignette. Also, groves? i assume it was meant to be grooves?
I have that DoF adapter from my times with the DXX100… but you really wouldn't use fresnels here… the system is small enough for glass lenses Also, english is not my first language, and my german orthography is bad already… just ignore any kind of spelling errors
DIYPerks mention number XXX… as this comes up a lot, here is a standard answer: We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence. While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast. Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching. The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.
First to mention the DIYPerks video in these comments… as it will happen 2564 times… here a standard answer: We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence. While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast. Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching. The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.
@@MediaDivision Okay look I dont really care who inspired what, I enjoyed your video as much as theirs. Its super interesting and great to have such an in-depth video from you guys. No need to get defensive.
Oh, the LX is a pure joy to use. And it has great interchangeable finders. For optimal magnification of its ground glass you could consider using the FE-1 magni view finder.
Always enjoy seeing kinefinity repped on this channel. My Terra 4K is still my A cam and while my Canon 24-105 L with the speedbooster is still my go-to combo, paired with my Mitakon Speedmaster 85mm f1.2 it's pretty epic
What was said beginning at 48:04 was particularly interesting, but I also found it important mainly because it is something that I've noticed often in photography, but was never able to explain perfectly enough to people. I think that trying to explain the concept over at a photography forum could have led me to confusion even for myself, but now I can refer back to this, so this is a great start for the new year.
Thank you so much for your support... that is really kind of you and helps us to bring independent content like this to life. The division salutes you!
Wow mate this is great timing! I've just started experimenting with building a (long forgotten) DOF adapter to use 6x7 lenses for that IMAX look. I was inspired by your other episode on the Mamiya Medium Format lenses but to me the Kipon booster didn't seem to give the feel of a medium format sensor/film. Thank you for making such amazing videos and Merry Christmas!
Thanks man… and Merry Christmas. Well, you might want to watch the "Food for thoughts" about the large format look at the end. IMAX doesn't have an intrinsic look. What your experience is, is more related to the projection, expectation, framing… and other things that are not related to the format.
@@MediaDivision It's really interesting stuff. I would disagree with you about "the look" purely on the basis that if you watch a Nolan movie on standard definition DVD you can see a clear difference between the IMAX scenes and the standard 35mm film. So it can't be resolution. I've been obsessed with this look ever since and even bought a Hasselblad to see the difference with stills photography. Take a look at this guy's video where he's comparing medium format with full frame side by side - there's definitely something going on here in relation to field of view, compression and not just depth of field: ruclips.net/video/5UMAVs-jelo/видео.html
I own the 645 Mamiyas and the Kippon Speedbooster... trust me... there is nothing "going on" in terms of format look. There is nothing going on in terms of DoF either. I have faster native lenses with shallower DoF for FF than the "dark night" 80mm f1.9 with booster. That is not to say that That combo doesn't look different than an Otus... of course it does, but that has nothing to do with the format (especially not as it all shot on the same format)
I think when people talk about the "Medium/Large Format look" that they are attempting to describe is the difference in DOF at comparable apertures. Also larger lenses have their own unique properties. Many of them were not made for digital and have elements like lead and thorium which makes their images extremely unique compared to the basically perfect lenses of today. So it's annoying yes, but most photographers don't even know what flange distance is let alone anything else in this video.
It hard to talk about "comparable apertures" when it is not defined… the same f-number, or the same entrance pupil diameter? The difference is vast. If we talk about equivalent lenses there are no properties intrinsic to a format, unless you go super wide open. Things like Image space Telecentrisity lenses exist because of entering hurdles, but again, not intrinsic to the format. Lead and Thorium:. While one might argue that it influences the image (I would argue it doesn't unless you like to keep your center defects) it is purely engineering related… there is nothing about the format in there. While there are more lenses available in certain form, shape, design, here and there, these are differences based on practical need, historical reasons, engineering requirements, politics or market dynamics - that is not "intrinsic" to any format. This is what we are trying to convey.
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This is high quality long form content and belongs on this platform. ARE YOU LISTENING ALGORITHM!?
Thanks.... this is the one of our many videos where RUclips seems to agree... but we have soooo many others on the same level.
I'm a photographer rather than a film maker so I find the movie aspect interesting to watch but this is where this channel really vibes for me, I cant see people discussing optics and camera science with this depth and approachability anywhere else on RUclips. This channel is a diamond in the rough and I hope to see a lot more "messing around" from you guys. all the best and have a great 2023.
We are working hard to be as informative as entertaining and challenge people to really understand the things they knew about but never bothered to go deeper, so I a very happy , that you see us in that place. Thanks a lot man!
@@MediaDivision I think I bumped into the f0.7 video you produced 2 years ago, (somewhat by accident), but am Sooooo happy you pursued that to it's logical extent, both technically but more important, ARTISTICALLY. You achieved the tech, as a means to make the art and it shows. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! Media Division FTW 💪 💥😎
Thanks a lot Eric. Very happy you you think we evolved somewhere interesting.
For Photography you might want to look into scanner cameras, using a flatbed scanner can be a very interresting way to get high resolution large format images...
Just fyi, "a diamond in the rough" means a dull gem that hasn't yet reached its full potential.
Seriously, the final shot of the film is some of the most gorgeous and beautiful cinematography I've ever seen in my life. The fact that you did this stuff just as a hobby and to show what's possible is insane given the effort you and your peers put into these. Your videos never disappoint.
Thank you Chicken Paste… much appreciated. This one was quite insane indeed… I wish RUclips would value it as much as you do.
well looks like it did value it in the end haha@@MediaDivision
you mean as it has 450K views? For this amount of work you have to think in other dimensions I fear. This is about 800$ in ad revenue@@Automatic-Diaphragm
Fabulous 🏆🌟 😎
Thank you so much for your generosity Adrian. It is much appreciated… the whole Division salutes you! This is for you!!!
@@MediaDivision Hats off, guys, you are truly unique.
@@adrianschipor9388 Always trying to improve and to do something worth your time. Do that for 6 years and you get somewhere ;-) Thanks again for your support Adrian. Save the date: Our next episode will be released April 9th 15:00 CEST
As an engineer, I found your process absolutely fascinating. This is one of the best explainers of camera design that I've ever seen; there are so many bad explanations of depth of field across different sensor sizes on the Internet and this is truly a breath of fresh air.
As a photographer who's been dabbling with mating "fast" medium format lenses with large format cameras to shoot instant film, I appreciate the inspiration. It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my quest to build exactly the camera I need.
And as a lover of shallow depths of field, I'm in awe of The Iron Sea.
Thank you.
Thanks a lot Ben… very happy that you see it that way. I think it really good being self taught with everything in this context as it helps to draw out a straight understandable road to whatever your try to explain. I am always happy when I (hopefully) didn't screw anything up.
In the end, all knowledge is mute unless you create something worth watching, doing, using, or experimenting. All power to engineering.
An engineer mentioning he's an engineer? whaaaaat?
I first saw this idea when DIY Perks did his Large format Project, It was great seeing that idea done in a more professional camera envirement. Also seeing it used is great and very intresting.
(After reading another comment I need to add this: I'm not implying that anyone has stolen each others idea, I just find it great that such optical projects get more attention on YT. I actually think that both projects show the concept very well and also show how it can be done with different budgets obviusly since you have more experience in this field you could use it better)
seems like they did
People seem to be under the misapprehension that they invited the technique… they did not. like we say in our video, the technique is not new and it has been done by many in many variants. There used to be a facebook group for people with these kind of camera (DoF Adapters and Digital Obscura).
The DIY Perks camera did NOT inspire this project. Our camera was functional long before their camera came out. We were very public and vocal about our development, and we have the post to prove it. I don’t know if Perks where inspired by that or not… it doesn’t matter. This is not a “who comes first” things… neither of us was at any stretch. The more important part (at least to us) is what kind of image we can get and what kind of story we can tell with it. The camera itself is secondary. Also, we take the audience along to get a better grasp of things like the “equivalency of lenses” and make education fun.
I am very happy that you think that we succeeded in created something worth your time
@@MediaDivision I personally like to see two approaches and don't care who posted first.
I write one answer for all the DIY Perks related comments…a lot of the comments are snarky.
At any rate great video, great to know that this is a option, which I could use whenever it fits in to a project. I actually really like that I saw it done with diferent gear, just proves that the concept is really a great idea. Love the channel, I first descovered it with the scope films.
What an insane introduction to a channel pushing the limits of what’s possible. Top notch doesn’t even cut it. You’re in a league of your own. Thank you.
Welcome to nerdy content for nerds to nerd out over ;-) Very happy you feel that way Nick… thanks for being a part of it and your kindness.
Media Division stands alone on RUclips when it comes to quality and content. I can't imagine the endless hours spent making sure everything from build to shooting to narrative is perfect. You could've probably halved the time invested and still put together an amazing video, but I always get the sense that "good enough" doesn't exist in your vocabulary. Thank you for entertaining, informing and inspiring us.
Thanks Derrick… I will say that our demand for perfection got a little out out hand ;-) generous people like yourself make it possible. Thank you so much and much love from myself and the team!
my jaw is on the floor every time you guys drop something huge like this. 1 hour passes like it's nothing. keep being crazy!
Will try Daniel… youtube is moving away from content like this, but as long as we have the audience, we will try.
Not only is your production quality extremely high, your work also has great amounts of character. That requires a lot of skill.
Thanks a lot.... and luck ;-)
A ticket to the movies indeed. Thank you for making transparent your hard work, and the beautifully hybrid scientific and creative world that is cinematography!
Thank you so much Ryan … I wish I could hand out some popcorn to all those getting that "ticket". We salut you! You make it possible!
Damn this channel just keeps getting better and better. I had to watch it 3 times to absorb what was happening. This is what RUclips is for. Kubrick would be proud.
Thanks a lot Damien… I really hope he would be. I really do. He is and always will be my hero!
Thank you! Was so worth the wait for this video and instilled me with confidence to eventually make one some day soon. I love the low light, DOF, wide viewing angle, and look created by this setup!
Thanks a lot David… we will drink to you! You make independent content like this possible - and we salut you for it. Very happy you find the images good!.
Your channel is one of the best out there and the production quality is unmatched. I am amazed with every new video you drop. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much Adam… really appreciate your kindness, motivation and your financial support of course. We salute you! Hope you had a great Xmas
Thanks!
Edit: Not much to say thanks, but this is the most beautifully produced camera-hardware-related technical video I've seen in a long while. This question has been something I've wondered about before, regarding how wider (or lower f-stop) will be physically possible. Absolutely fascinating documentary. Insightful! Kudos for the breakdowns too, not that I'll possibly ever be in a position to replicate in my lifetime, I guess, but the thinking process involved in the building is definitely appreciated.
Edit 2: And surprisingly, giving my first ever RUclips thanks to a channel I saw for the first time, on their first video I watched. The algorithm must be algorithm-ing indeed
Thank you so much KhoPhi! We very much appreciate your contribution. The Division salutes you. This is for you!
Fantastic ideas, education, execution, and entertainment!
Thank you so much Berzerk… we very much appreciate your contribution. You make independent content like this possible. The Divsison salutes you.
There isn't another channel out there like Media Division. Thank you for the time and effort invested in each brilliant episode. Can't wait to see what's next!
Thanks a lot for your support Joe. Your generosity makes content like this possible. Your kindness is just as welcome.....
the Division salutes you!
Ihr habt mit diesem Video alles zerstört was ich bisher gesehen habe. Das ist ein Meisterwerk...Es ist nicht in Worte zu fassen welches Level und welch Qualität ihr hier präsentiert...Vielen Dank für alles...LG Fabian
Herzlichen Dank für Deinen Support Fabian.... das Team und ich salutieren! Du machst das ganze möglich! Danke auch für die netten Wort... jetzt muss RUclips das auch noch merken und wir könnten so was die ganze Zeit machen.
@@MediaDivision meine Unterstützung habt ihr definitiv 😃 wir hatten auch oft Kontakt via Facebook aber leider musste ich da weg. Ich schreibe dir mal ne Mail die Tage. LG Maziano 😉
@@cinex5114 Klingt dramatisch! Mach gerne … bis dann
MEDIA DIVISION creates the best photo-geek content. Full stop.
I've been "playing" at still photography for 40 years but, with each video you produce, my level of understanding deepens, or, more accurately, my ability to explain these niche topics increases 10 fold.
Thank you!
So glad that you think that way and that you find our videos helpful and (hopefully) entertaining, too. Please, spread the word
@@MediaDivision Oh, the EDUTAINMENT level of your content is unrivaled and I most definitely SHARE your videos.
Thats the spirit!!! Thanks a lot Michael!
"One should try before giving up". Very well said!
Glad you think so too… so many comments are immediately about "impossibility" to focus… I found it manageable. Thank you so much for your generosity and support James! We salut you. Marry Xmas
Discovered your channel through this video. The pacing, production, explanations, and everything else are nothing short of extraordinary and professional. You've easily earned my support and I look forward to watching your previous and future content.
Thank a lot for your support Hoang. The Team and I salute you. We also thank you for your kindness. We hope you enjoy a nice long binge watch session! These videos are for you!
Mulțumim!
Nu... Îți mulțumim! Vă mulțumim pentru susținere, The Division vă saltă!
Super awesome project! Love large format and it's so cool to see it used like this. Great behind the scenes too
Thanks a lot for your support and your kind words. Very happy you enjoy what we do!
Thank you for this wonderful work you have done in an environment where ridiculous videos are watched in incredible numbers. Thanks to you, I became interested in photography. Good luck with .
Ver happy to have given you the "shutterbug" … thank you for your support! The team and I salute you!!
The thing camera lovers can do is leave a message to help with the algorithm
Appreciate it Abdelilah. Thank you!
Happy for the sponsorship and thank you for everything you do as always, you're a gem!
Thanks my man… enjoy!
Providing content like that is a game changer for every autodidact in this world. Allowing us to get more comprehension of the physical concepts behind photography. It allows all to get information people studied it in school sometimes never heard of !
I really appreciate it and therefore I thank you, and all people working jointly to create this content !
Keep up the good work
We really hope it can do exactly that. Thanks for being around and engaging with us Nico!
Autodidactism is a field of scientific inquiry and study that I'd hope to/like to see far more often in the future! :D
This channel is just pure gold. I don't understand the lack of subscribers.
RUclips policies?… to few nerds? You not spreading the word? ;-)
Thanks man!!!
Amazing content guys! Always thrilled to discover what you have created. Really inspiring and educational. Thanks a lot and wonderful Christmas to you all! 🙏🎄
Thanks a lot for your kindness and your support Vibes… very much appreciated. We love and salute you! Hope you had a great Christmas and wish you a happy new year!
Thanks! Just suuuuper cool, educational and inspiring. Makes me want to play some more with my 25mm f/0.95 Voigtländer for MFT again soon. Even though it’s still vastly different worlds. Love your behind the scenes and post-mortem explorations. Do you have plans to shoot more with this system? And yah, the video on Canon FD lenses was also really awesome.
Thanks a lot Clayton… you are very kind and your support makes it possible. We salute you! We did a scene for a feature already (not something you will be hearing of I guess) but our personal exploration of it is probably concluded with this video… but who knows?!
Thank you! please don't stop.
Thank you so much Smashy…. Really appreciate your kindness and support! Me and the team salute you! We will definitely try
Kann man gar nicht in Worte verpacken. Was ihr hier jedes mal abliefert ist einfach absurd gut!! Ich muss jetzt echt Member werden
Danke danke… und… ich bin voll dafür ;-)
Your Videos are just absolute gold! Thank you for producing such high quality Videos. One can totally see the love to the craft! Keep it up und Frohe Weihnachten!
It is absolutely our pleasure. It's priceless to share it with people like you who appreciate the work.
Thank you for your kindness and your support.
It is criminal this channel does not have more subscribers this content is better than most high budget productions now.
Man… I wish RUclips or Netflix or HBO would see it the same way ;-) I would love to grow further. Thanks for hanging Smen
the quality of your half documentaries, half video essays are absolutely stellar. thank you for sharing how you conquer new problems, but accessibly visualize them.
Thanks Mark... appreciate your kindness. Thats exactly what we are trying to accomplish, very happy it works for you.
Im more of a hobbyist photographer, but I always find your videos fascinating and always watch all the way through. Not too many channels can keep me hooked for an hour. Your production value and explanations are always excellent.
Glad that we can keep you edutained! Thanks. lot for hanging with us.
Another masterpiece: lot of knowledge and stunning images... Thank You
Triple thank you Alessandro… for being a member, for the super thanks, and for your kindness… we salute you and through yourselves at your feet ;-) Merry Xmas
@@MediaDivision Thank You!!💪🏻
It's a pleasure. Merry Christmas to you too☺
Such cool content. Nothing else like it on RUclips. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for your kindness, motivation, and contribution… the Division salutes you!!!
highly underrated video, as of writing this the video has been up for 2 weeks and only has 243k views
the project deserves soo much more
Thanks a lot... we can always use more views. Spread the word?! In the end, it is a very small audience this kind of video appeals to.
Well, I’m 30 minutes in and I can’t takie my eyes away! It is an amazing experience for me to watch and listen to people that clearly know what tey are talking about. I admire your passion and commitement to what you are doping. This video alone is truly beautiful. I recommend everyone to watch it. I will definitely stay with your chanel for a longer time now that I have just discovered it for myself. Again, love the work, and I am now going to continue watching till the end…
Thanks a lot Bartosz... glad you feel edutained. We appreciate your kindness and you hanging around our channel... we have lot's of stuff that might be for you as well.
Your videos blow my mind. Keep up the amazing work!!
Thanks you LaBonne… your support makes that a whole lot easier. Much love from me and the team… we salute you! Have a great new year
A very underrated channel. The effort your team puts into your videos is simply outstanding. Well done and please don't stop producing work for this channel.
I tend to agree ;-) Please help us to spread the word. Will try man and thanks for hanging
A 1000 miles journey starts with the first step. In the last three years, I bought plenty of "shoes" and "socks", but I still don't have the courage to make that first step... You are inspiration guys, I wish you all the BEST!!!
Thanks a lot… don't be to hard on yourself. Be your greatest critic, but do it anyways… improve every time a tiny bit. Over time, there will be nothing you can't do. Good luck!
You videos are a rare example of "the sky is the limit". When ever I thought "how to raise the level on the next one?" this next upload gave the anwser. So proud to be a community member 😎
Hey Peter… thank you so much for being a member! You make it possible! We salute you!! Hoffe Du hattest eine schöne Weihnachten!! Danke für alles
No. This video is "sky is no longer the limit".
Perhaps the most intruiging, thoughtful, and incredible content I have seen on youtube. So entertaining and so informative. I am just flabbergasted that this content is free. You've got a subscriber for life.
Nice to have you around Charles. Very glad you feel edutained. We have a lot more videos with a similar approach... enjoy your binge watch session!
Very nice hardware solution to this challenge. It seems like similar shallow DoF effects could be achieved in software with a depth sensor and a regular camera, using a light field synthetic aperture camera, or even AI techniques. And the software approach allows tweaking in post production. In that context, what was the most appealing aspect you found about the custom camera design to shoot and edit this short?
Thanks a lot for your kindness and your contribution. The division team salutes you.
Sure you can use all sorts of techniques to achieve this look (we "fake" it for the Shining scenes in the beginning)... but this episode is really about the optical background to DoF, and the best way to do it, is to actually do it. I always feel that the real thing is better than AI/CGI approach. The latter will always give you what you "expect" or put in it in the first place. The real thing has so much room for the unexpected. The whole piece came out with a whole buch of things I have not expected but loved in the end. Also, humans gravitate to the real thing... there is a quality to it, that is almost impossible to fake, and if you do, took more effort than to just shot it for real. Thanks again James!
I think this is the most valuable video I've seen in years. I'm a focus puller and I work on hundreds of gigs per year with every tech money can buy (for that I'm grateful) and yet this is so far beyond anything we've done. The build you made was pure gold and the focusing solution made me say "wow" out loud👏👏👏 Thank you for the walk trough and detail!
That is wonderful to hear Radostin… we very much appreciate the input of a professional in this matter. Glad you found it useful. I was the one pulling focus and it was surprisingly manageable in the given context … DON'T try this with fast and unpredictable movements. The slow but constant movement helps a ton. Just like in Barry Lyndon… stage the scenes to fit the technological needs and you are good. Thanks again for interacting and hanging around .
Imagine trying to pull focus on this thing though. It would nearly be impossible on a moving subject. 🤣
Díky!
Thank you so much Viktor....you make it possible and we salute you for that!
This is the first, probably last, video on RUclips that kept me hooked for ~40 minutes straight (i skipped a few parts) in this year.
Glad I found a content creator who educates and captures breathtaking videos.
Keep up 👌🏻
That doesn't sound good for the platform ;-) Thanks a lot man… will try!
As always, a beautiful episode!
Thanks John, and thanks for your super Thanks… you make it possible. We salute you! Have a merry Xmas John.
Did the short film make anyone else literally cry or just me?
At least you are the first to say you did… I am very happy that it had an emotional impact on you as that was our intension. Thanks for watching and interacting.
@@MediaDivision he went down there to escape, to think, to be alone, or maybe even to morn and let go, and he found that another part of himself was down there alone for some time before and through it he became whole again.
@@caselaviolette We totally leave the interpretation to the individual in the audience. It could be many things but if this is what you feel it is absolutely right.
@@MediaDivision thank you for your replies it means a lot. Can I email with you? I have a short film I want to create
you can… info@media-division.de
Be aware that we can only do extensive consulting for our Kubrick Members… otherwise we go insane and can't feed children.
Incredible production! Thank you for doing what you do!
Thank you so much Keylan… we really appreciate your contribution to our mission. The division salutes you!
Incredible and fascinating video Nikolas.
Thanks a lot Philip… feeling blessed that someone like you enjoys the show. In my case… it's not hard to meet my maker ;-)
¡Gracias!
Vi ringraziamo e salutiamo! Non posso farlo senza il tuo supporto
Your videos explaining photography in such a scientific, yet fun, way is one of a kind!~ Thank you for creating these.
Very much our pleasure Gary. Thank you for supporting us and being so kind.
That theme song and deutche accent… just triggers abundant pleasant chemicals in my brain. It must like like Star Wars enthusiasts hearing the opening music on a new film they’ve not yet seen. Breathtaking awe and anticipation.
Branding is everything… now imagine that with a German accent: Branding is everything ;-) Glad you enjoy despite our kraut voice overs.
@@MediaDivision Don’t worry your English is perfect; even with flawless W’s! Now how do I get the media division theme song as my iPhone ringtone? I’ve listened to the original song and it’s just not my jam.
Artlist will help… "Saving Tides by Chase Baker" is the name
How this channel doesn't have 1+ million subscribers is beyond comprehension. Well done guys. Another amazingly interesting and incredibly well produced production.
Thanks a lot Jack… well, to few nerds in the world?!? Or maybe we are not good enough in spreading the word. Always happy for the support of our nerds around here. Merry Xmas
i guess its to long for some, you need time to watch and an above goldfish attention span.
This channel is just insane, but they're probably doing over-quality: to scale up, they'd need to produce content more people can enjoy while dropping their cost basis. Basically like PewDiePie testing a video game in his couch, every single day lol.
Depends what you want: money, or building a camera.
@@ypierro with this attitude the world would be all about piling up more and more shit. There is a place for things that matter… things with soul… and I refuse to believe otherwise.
This being on RUclips feels like a steal.
Thanks a lot... where else would it be??
I am genuinely always astounded by the work that you all do. By far, the highest quality of work that I have seen on this platform and I don’t mean that in terms of videography only but just the sheer dedication the team must have to present such a highly informative yet entertaining video in such a innovative way that the video in itself is a work of art. These videos must take so long and so much hard work to create and it is so evident in every second of viewing. I used to look at the duration of these videos and was demotivated to click on them due to how long they were but the second I started watching I fell in love and now always take out the time and enjoy the work of you talented artists.
Thanks a lot Krish… really appreciate your kindness and feedback. If what we do is worth anything, than it is to inspire people like
Kiitos!
Thank you so much for your support… very much appreciated Sami. We salute you!
Myth Busters of the videography. Thanks.
I like that thought… thank you
Time to put daily life on hold and watch the new media division release 3 times in a row
That is the spirit… I am all for it ;-)
And Thanks a ton for being a Kubrick of course… enjoy your shout out in the end… cost me a night to do ;-)
I LOVE the production quality on your videos! This is literally better than any Netflix documentary out there! Keep it up!
Thanks… why is Netflix not calling…………… darn!!!
Incredible production quality of this video!
Thanks a lot man… really appreciate your kindness and interacting!
First video of yours I watched. I am really impressed with the production quality and the storytelling is really nicely paced and thorough. I love it and will be watching more! Thank you for creating something different.
Thanks a lot Leon… very glad it is for you. Please go ahead… our channel has quite a few videos in the style of this one.
Even the great ONE , Kubrick , would been blown away if he could see this video ☆☆☆☆☆
The skill and talent you guys have , is the best i've ever seen ☆☆☆☆☆
I really hope that was true… it would make me so so happy.
Thank a lot man… appreciated!
@@MediaDivision i'm sure of it ☆☆☆☆☆
I wish you and your team , a very succesfull and happy 2023
And i hope , i can enjoy your video's lots of years in the future ☆☆☆☆☆
Grtz from the netherlands
Johny geerts
Thanks man… have a great 2023 too!!!!
The amount of work in this video is incredible. Huge respect
Yes. I have to admit it was bone and brain crushing. Thanks man!!
Ευχαριστούμε!
Thank you so much Pavlos… really appreciate your contribution to our mission.… the Division salutes you!!!
This is by far the most interesting cinematography channel on RUclips and so well put together!! Maximum respect!! 👏👏
Thanks a lot David… please spread the word when it comes up ;-)
This is perhaps the most in-depth, practical and gorgeous video I have seen on the subject. Thank you so much.
Thanks a lot man, glad you enjoy. Don't miss f0.7, the prequel to this one…………
I really appreciate the amount of work that goes into making these video. Incredible amount of info.
Thank you so much!
Thank Madrid… this was pure pain to produce ;-) Enjoy
truly a channel un like any other. i do a lot of close up shots, stop motion stuff, and i can get these effects with normal lenses since they are all close ups. i have always seen the narrow focus plain as a problem, but watching this, i think i should use it as an advantage when needed.
Totally aware of the problem. You might be interested in "the impossible lens Part 2 - infinite DoF" - thinking about it
@@MediaDivision Im guessing it will take a while, but Im also guessing it will be a dam worth while vid :)
You bet…. And we hope ;-)
I think this is basically the same concept that DIY Perks used in one of his videos. But I love the in depth explanation of this Media Division video. Such a cool concept and the results were crazy!! I am going to make one some day
Yes… like we and dozens of others did before them.
We definitely did this more for the image we could create with it and the teaching opportunity it gives rather than the camera built itself.
What's this technique called?
I'd like to research more information.
Great job, as always; I can't imagine the amount of work you guys do to produce content like this.
Thanks man… it is… alooooooot. This one was hard
So happy you followed up on this topic. There was of course the video b Über Hoover a few years ago and a few attempts at something similar. Including an interesting combination of anamorphic lenses combined with an anamorphic adapter in the front (so the image is spherical but squeezed in both directions).
There is a 29mm (prime prime) f/0.8 lens for MFT, but it's similar dof to a 50mm f/1.4 which people are used to on Full Frame. Yet I still want one. Eventhough it's more like T1.02 (at the center) and T1.8 at the edges.
I have a large format camera that's 13.5cm f/4.5 and I have shot dry plates with it. People had to hold still for 10 seconds wide open and the negatives are really really thin.
The largest lens I have is a 150mm f/1. But it's not made for visible light but thermal infrared, because the lens elements are made of Germanium. It's slower than your 300mm f/2.8 but faster lenses exist for thermal infrared cameras too, so do telescopes (using mirrors).
I believe a patent for a f/0.37 lens does exists, but it's using mirrors and might not be physically feasible.
LargeSense 811 is just four LargeSemse 45 joined together. Similar to the Arri 65 sensor perhaps. You can get such sensors much cheaper. Look at X-ray detector plates. They have a sintilaton layer to convert x-rays into visible light due to fluresence. You could remove that layer and end up with a rather large visible light detector. It will be low resolution, large pixels and has some stiching lines. It's essentially what LargeSense sells, ready made for photography. There is a video from Ben over at Applied Science that shows how such a detector plate works (for x-rays). and you can find them on eBay for like 500 bucks. it's a project I have thought about a few times. But been told it's dangerous.
The largest digital sensors are 81x81 mm and are made for space telescopes by Teledyne. there is 61x61 "scientific" cameras you can buy starting around 50k for astro cams. These are also actively cooled.
There is another reason to use large format. In stills, like landscape you wand really deep depth of field. But stopping down would introduce a loss of sharpness due to diffraction. What many don't realize is that diffraction is inherent, and becomes and issue when the aperture is small. But if you are shooting large format wide angle, your focal length might be 450mm. And stopping down to f/128 will leave your aperture several cm open. So you do not have issue with diffraction.
The intro shot made me think Adam Driver, seen too many wide Kylo memes.
Turning your room into a camera obscura reminds me of a photographer I once met. They were shooting in an equally giant lens but not on ground glass but glass plates directly. Essentially a window pane that had emulsion brushed onto. And the developer would be sprayed on with a garden hose. The camera and darkroom where an old school gym with a giant separation curtain. There is a story about a pinhole camera the size of an aircraft hangar, with several months of exposure time.
And finally if you do VLBI (very long baseline interferometry), your synthetic aperture can have the size of the planet or even the solar system (LISA). But that goes beyond imaging or even filmmaking.
Thank you for all the work you are doing, incredible stuff in a sea of mediocre youtube content. Absolutely worth paying for the membership. Keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot Liam… and thanks a lot for your support. You make content like this possible! The Division salutes you!
this youtube channel is really incredible... it's a gift for producer like me to find this kind of video and for free ! Thank you Media Division !
Thanks man… glad you find it useful! It is totally our pleasure.
As usual, astonishing content. Thank you for keeping up with such beautiful episodes!
Thanks a lot Marco… we appreciate your kindness. Always trying to improve
God, I can't believe the quality of your videography. You truly are a master videographer.
*cinematography
Thanks a lot Ben… appreciated. I am cool with the term BTW. These days… it means pretty much the same.
So awesome! These episodes showcase so much creative energy! Super inspirational as always!
Thanks a lot Brandon… as a supporter you well deserve the inspiration. Very happy you like it! Merry Xmas.
Tak!
Thank you so much Fobian… you make it possible and you get a salute from the team and me. This is for you! Greeting to Denmark!
@@MediaDivision …, thank you for creating all the amazing content for us=) regards
@@Fobian11 always trying… ;-) Tak!!!! BTW my kids are both danish
Always the most incredible videos ever on this channel
Thanks. Trying hard to get better each and every time… thanks for hanging!
I remember using DIY depth of field adapters with the old Canon cameras like the XL1 😁. Enjoyed using those back then. People would use those clear fake CDs and sand them down, then spin those. A Fresnel lens would be used on the lens side to reduce vignette.
Also, groves? i assume it was meant to be grooves?
I have that DoF adapter from my times with the DXX100… but you really wouldn't use fresnels here… the system is small enough for glass lenses
Also, english is not my first language, and my german orthography is bad already… just ignore any kind of spelling errors
Yup, I remember making one out of a old focusing screen and some pvc pipe. Still love the canon FD 50mm ssc 1.4 I picked up for that build.
DIY Perks, sends best regards!
DIYPerks mention number XXX… as this comes up a lot, here is a standard answer:
We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence.
While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast.
Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching.
The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.
ur very defensive about this@@MediaDivision
after answering about 200 comments about this subject… including offensive and threatening ones… I think it is VERY measured @@calebbarstadreels
@@MediaDivision fair enough
Super excited to watch the whole video. @DIYPerks build a really similar thing from what I can tell from the intro.
First to mention the DIYPerks video in these comments… as it will happen 2564 times… here a standard answer:
We built this camera long before DIY perks posted their video, and we got the posts to prove that all over the place. I don't know if we inspired their built or if that is a pure coincidence.
While it also also a DoF adapter design these camera are very different beast.
Also, we use our camera for what it is supposed to do… film something worth watching.
The episode gives us the opportunity to teach about the equivalency of lenses and other interesting things, the camera built itself is just a vehicle to do that.
@@MediaDivision Okay look I dont really care who inspired what, I enjoyed your video as much as theirs. Its super interesting and great to have such an in-depth video from you guys. No need to get defensive.
Surreal work, well done
Nice… glad to have you around!. Good luck with your projects
Oh, the LX is a pure joy to use. And it has great interchangeable finders. For optimal magnification of its ground glass you could consider using the FE-1 magni view finder.
Popcorn popping now
Me too :-) Enjoy
Another amazing in depth epic!
Thanks a lot Melvin!!! Thanks to you, contend like this can exist. We salute you!
Always enjoy seeing kinefinity repped on this channel. My Terra 4K is still my A cam and while my Canon 24-105 L with the speedbooster is still my go-to combo, paired with my Mitakon Speedmaster 85mm f1.2 it's pretty epic
Sure… lots of our B-Cam stuff is shot on the Terra. Capable camera
What was said beginning at 48:04 was particularly interesting, but I also found it important mainly because it is something that I've noticed often in photography, but was never able to explain perfectly enough to people. I think that trying to explain the concept over at a photography forum could have led me to confusion even for myself, but now I can refer back to this, so this is a great start for the new year.
Glad that we were able to clear thing a little for you.... thanks for being around
Stunning! Excellent work! I wish it was possible to make something like that I could hand hold lol
Go for it… maybe the right approach is to do it the other way around… Hit the fitness studio and get strong enough
@@MediaDivision haha! I could see a beastly shoulder rig working quite nicely if you get your counterweights right!
Thanks! Super interesting!
Thank you so much for your support... that is really kind of you and helps us to bring independent content like this to life. The division salutes you!
Wow mate this is great timing! I've just started experimenting with building a (long forgotten) DOF adapter to use 6x7 lenses for that IMAX look. I was inspired by your other episode on the Mamiya Medium Format lenses but to me the Kipon booster didn't seem to give the feel of a medium format sensor/film. Thank you for making such amazing videos and Merry Christmas!
Thanks man… and Merry Christmas.
Well, you might want to watch the "Food for thoughts" about the large format look at the end. IMAX doesn't have an intrinsic look. What your experience is, is more related to the projection, expectation, framing… and other things that are not related to the format.
@@MediaDivision It's really interesting stuff. I would disagree with you about "the look" purely on the basis that if you watch a Nolan movie on standard definition DVD you can see a clear difference between the IMAX scenes and the standard 35mm film. So it can't be resolution. I've been obsessed with this look ever since and even bought a Hasselblad to see the difference with stills photography. Take a look at this guy's video where he's comparing medium format with full frame side by side - there's definitely something going on here in relation to field of view, compression and not just depth of field: ruclips.net/video/5UMAVs-jelo/видео.html
I own the 645 Mamiyas and the Kippon Speedbooster... trust me... there is nothing "going on" in terms of format look. There is nothing going on in terms of DoF either. I have faster native lenses with shallower DoF for FF than the "dark night" 80mm f1.9 with booster. That is not to say that That combo doesn't look different than an Otus... of course it does, but that has nothing to do with the format (especially not as it all shot on the same format)
I talk about this channel with all of my fellow DP friends. A tremendous source of inspiration.
Very happy you do… thanks for "spreading the word". Thanks Michael!
I think when people talk about the "Medium/Large Format look" that they are attempting to describe is the difference in DOF at comparable apertures. Also larger lenses have their own unique properties. Many of them were not made for digital and have elements like lead and thorium which makes their images extremely unique compared to the basically perfect lenses of today. So it's annoying yes, but most photographers don't even know what flange distance is let alone anything else in this video.
It hard to talk about "comparable apertures" when it is not defined… the same f-number, or the same entrance pupil diameter? The difference is vast. If we talk about equivalent lenses there are no properties intrinsic to a format, unless you go super wide open. Things like Image space Telecentrisity lenses exist because of entering hurdles, but again, not intrinsic to the format. Lead and Thorium:. While one might argue that it influences the image (I would argue it doesn't unless you like to keep your center defects) it is purely engineering related… there is nothing about the format in there. While there are more lenses available in certain form, shape, design, here and there, these are differences based on practical need, historical reasons, engineering requirements, politics or market dynamics - that is not "intrinsic" to any format. This is what we are trying to convey.
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This is a focus puller's worst nightmare 😂
You would be surprised… we talk about it a lot in the episode
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