I have the insulated (VDE) version of the Wiha bicut and this is not an issue as the fatter handles mean the button doesn't touch the surface, they are put down on. Just an observation, hope to see you back on youtube soon
At some point Felo changed the finish on the wood handled screwdrivers from bright chrome (what you have) to matte finish. I have some of both, and the matte finish seems more durable. Next time the wood handled drivers go on sale you might want to pick some up and compare the 2 finishes.
. What can you say about a company that trades on reputation to sell Sweat shop made tools made in the lowest and least PROTECTED labor market in Asia.
I saw this and I wanted to clarify on a quick thing with the Wiha BiCut. There's a couple variations of it which amounts to different handles. With the dip handles, as the video shows, it can do this. The 2 other versions are with the industrial comfort grip handles in either VDE insulated (red yellow) or not (red black). With the industrial handles the pliers rest on the handles and the head of the cutter doesn't sit on the table. It's about 5mm above the surface at the point of the button as the "shoulders" of the handles actually have the cutters in a slight upward angle when lying flat as opposed to the position in the video. The issue with "fixing" this design would be that it is only an issue for the base dipped handles. This would be a trade-off for the cheaper, more compact dipped handles over the bulkier ergo grips.
@German Tool Reviews I really enjoy your restoration videos, the attention to detail, CAD models and finished products were brilliant. Will you be doing any of those soon?
Still need to finish the Wacker Concrete Saw. I think I just about have all of the replacement parts I need. Probably need to get a new muffler for it as well because I noticed the one I have has a hole in it.
I cannot think of any reason to use wooden handled drivers over decent plastic ones. You said something about oils and bare wood, are they better to use if you have greasy hands? I think some Wera type handles can go funny with solvents and oils sometimes.
I found an old extension a couple weeks ago in my garage and when I grabbed it off my ratchet I got a 1.5" cut across my palm from the chrome, I even was able to pull the chunk of chrome outa my palm like a razor blade. People have those WF drivers for years and decades, I believe my original set of 13 was around $25 in 2009. My old style tekton screwdrivers and usa stanleys at work have held up better then those felo's. I bring my vessel screwdrivers with me to work & ever since owning those I just can't see how anything could compare or beat them. I feel like you saying you got you're moneys worth on a tool that should last a lifetime that you must have really low expectations. I guess theres a reason I see tons of super old Usa made screwdrivers on ebay and little to nothing vintage or antique when it comes to European tools even if I search their regions ebay site it's still Usa. Just because something isn't so incredibly expensive doesn't mean it can't have a long life. Screwdrivers are some of the most inexpensive tools to produce.
On the bi-cut pliers, I have a pair I use doing electrical work, and found if you hang them by your pocket by one handle they don't lock up as much. It is a real down side to the tool, they are guaranteed to lock up in my tool pouch, this makes them a great purpose oriented tool and a terrible everyday tool. Knowing that I still love my pair.
Those bi cut pliers still look brand new and are not showing any wear . I can see how the unintentional locking would be annoying though. You didnt really touch on if your satisfied or unimpressed with the functionality of the hinge mechanism performance( cutting) wise Tools are tools . Battle scars are inevitable and signify heavy usage. I know you treat your tools more like a piece of art and thats fine. I just throw them in a box when not in use. I have the same Felos as well and am experiencing the same chipping but that doesnt overly concern me because they are in fact a tool and the tips have held up reasonably well. Believe me the tools handed down from my grandfather and father were pretty chipped and scarred. I think for the splitting maul you could fashion a guard from some 14 or 12 gauge to wrap the open side and pin it or tack it in place. Functionality over ascetics always. I love your taste in tools and your in depth reviews and look forward to every post .🙂
I guess how you treat tools depends on how you grew up and how much you can spend on them. Personally, I buy similar tools as GTR, like Wera screwdrivers, some Wiha, Knipex pliers, even some Japanese stuff. I usually pay good money for them. Now, I grew up in a sort-of "middle class" family where monetary safety was given but strict rules applied. I buy expensive tools to last so I don't have to get new ones every now and then, but do my research to buy the best for my money. When I have them, I usually respect them enough to put them back into their case and the proper drawer, and try to avoid using them for tasks they were not designed for (like prying with a flathead screwdriver). But also if I have nothing at hand, I will get the job done even if that goes against the previous statement. When I break an expensive tool, I keep it as a sacrificial one, for example I have a broken Wera flathead driver that serves me as a prybar since it's already broken. But then again, I'm a hobby repairman and gadget builder, I have a job as engineer where I don't use my own tools that often. I even spent some time designing some UK made Shadow Foam for them to avoid hitting each other and carry them in my custom Festool systainers. Since it's not my job I'm usually not in a hurry and I don't just start on a PZ screw with a PH driver because it takes time, I actually switch them to avoid long-term damage, and it only takes 5 seconds. I also clean them after work so prolong their lifespan since many are made of plastic or are prone to rust. Just last night I grinded down my hammer that I forgot to oil and renewed it's surface even though it's a cheapo OBI hammer.
@@HunGredy I have a sightly different background as you. I grew up on a 4rd generation dairy farm small town in Massachusetts. Not much extra money floating around, and i too was taught to by the best you can afford and to take care of it. That is still with me today. I am now fortunate enough to be able to own a good variety of more expensive and better performing tools like Wiha, Wera, and Knipex tools. I dont own many Stahlwille, Hazet or Gedore. They are just too pricey for me. That being said I never intentionally misuse or abuse the better quality tools I have. I own plenty of Harbor Freight, Stanley, Irwin, and craftsman tools for those tasks. I really dont consider tossing my tools in a tool box abusing them . Precision tools with cases stay in cases. I too occasionally will wipe my better tools down with Ballistol just not after every use. I use some WD-40 on the cheap "beaters" and wouldn't waste Ballistol on them. I'm still frugal. 😉
I bought a pair about 2 years ago and that's what made me stop using them. If you stick them in a pouch or your back pocket they eventually seem to "wiggle" into the middle locking position. Really annoying having to push the button every time I took them out of my pocket. I eventually just switched to Knipex 8" cutters and never looked back..
I'd be interested to see something on saw's I still think Wiha are ridiculously over-priced for what you get I'd be interested to know how much use that Felo Phillips head screwdriver has actually had? When did he buy them? How intense was the use because that looks kinda soft compared to the general wear & tear on the rest of the tool
I've had a pair of these for nearly two years now and I couldn't be happier with them. I was in KCTool picking up an order and they had these there so I grabbed them. I don't use them on a daily basis but often enough and I can see how the button issue occurs but with the frequency in which I use them, this isn't a big deal for me. I love your reviews and pov, you've got me into several new tools!
Re Wiha cutters, I guess with European Health & Safety regulations, the Germans would see the auto locking as a safety feature as you have to treat everyone as three year old child.
I have the insulated (VDE) version of the Wiha bicut and this is not an issue as the fatter handles mean the button doesn't touch the surface, they are put down on. Just an observation, hope to see you back on youtube soon
I would use only cheap screwdriver for opening can's, but it's not a good sign that the chrome goes off.
Nice video 👍
At some point Felo changed the finish on the wood handled screwdrivers from bright chrome (what you have) to matte finish. I have some of both, and the matte finish seems more durable. Next time the wood handled drivers go on sale you might want to pick some up and compare the 2 finishes.
Thanks for the info. I may pick up another set to see the difference. I have noticed that matte chrome tends not to chip as much as polished.
. What can you say about a company that trades on reputation to sell Sweat shop made tools made in the lowest and least PROTECTED labor market in Asia.
What company are we talking about?
@@shiro-r4m Wiha. They make their pliers line in Vietnam.
I saw this and I wanted to clarify on a quick thing with the Wiha BiCut. There's a couple variations of it which amounts to different handles. With the dip handles, as the video shows, it can do this. The 2 other versions are with the industrial comfort grip handles in either VDE insulated (red yellow) or not (red black).
With the industrial handles the pliers rest on the handles and the head of the cutter doesn't sit on the table. It's about 5mm above the surface at the point of the button as the "shoulders" of the handles actually have the cutters in a slight upward angle when lying flat as opposed to the position in the video.
The issue with "fixing" this design would be that it is only an issue for the base dipped handles.
This would be a trade-off for the cheaper, more compact dipped handles over the bulkier ergo grips.
I have a VDE pair and they do not exhibit the same issue, but you have to physically push down on the cutting head to lock them up.
@German Tool Reviews I really enjoy your restoration videos, the attention to detail, CAD models and finished products were brilliant. Will you be doing any of those soon?
Still need to finish the Wacker Concrete Saw. I think I just about have all of the replacement parts I need. Probably need to get a new muffler for it as well because I noticed the one I have has a hole in it.
Really appreciated that, especially the update on the splitting mauls.
Damn roasted the fuck out of them with class, "warm out but not a couple thousand degrees war". That's how you do it playboy, gang
I like the subtle humor sneaking in "it was warm out but it wasn't a couple of thousand degrees".
You need to put felo wooden screwdriver in the title
I cannot think of any reason to use wooden handled drivers over decent plastic ones. You said something about oils and bare wood, are they better to use if you have greasy hands? I think some Wera type handles can go funny with solvents and oils sometimes.
Yes, wood does wonders in oil and grease. When it eventually becomes soaked with oil you can just sand it and its good again.
I found an old extension a couple weeks ago in my garage and when I grabbed it off my ratchet I got a 1.5" cut across my palm from the chrome, I even was able to pull the chunk of chrome outa my palm like a razor blade. People have those WF drivers for years and decades, I believe my original set of 13 was around $25 in 2009. My old style tekton screwdrivers and usa stanleys at work have held up better then those felo's. I bring my vessel screwdrivers with me to work & ever since owning those I just can't see how anything could compare or beat them. I feel like you saying you got you're moneys worth on a tool that should last a lifetime that you must have really low expectations. I guess theres a reason I see tons of super old Usa made screwdrivers on ebay and little to nothing vintage or antique when it comes to European tools even if I search their regions ebay site it's still Usa. Just because something isn't so incredibly expensive doesn't mean it can't have a long life. Screwdrivers are some of the most inexpensive tools to produce.
Typically when you buy a set of screwdrivers with Woden handles. They’re meant for carpenters or someone who installs cabinets.
The lock button is the best of this tool..,cuz when the're stored in a tool box if these opening during the drive it will mess up the whole toolbox..😰
What?
On the bi-cut pliers, I have a pair I use doing electrical work, and found if you hang them by your pocket by one handle they don't lock up as much. It is a real down side to the tool, they are guaranteed to lock up in my tool pouch, this makes them a great purpose oriented tool and a terrible everyday tool. Knowing that I still love my pair.
Those bi cut pliers still look brand new and are not showing any wear . I can see how the unintentional locking would be annoying though. You didnt really touch on if your satisfied or unimpressed with the functionality of the hinge mechanism performance( cutting) wise
Tools are tools . Battle scars are inevitable and signify heavy usage. I know you treat your tools more like a piece of art and thats fine. I just throw them in a box when not in use. I have the same Felos as well and am experiencing the same chipping but that doesnt overly concern me because they are in fact a tool and the tips have held up reasonably well. Believe me the tools handed down from my grandfather and father were pretty chipped and scarred. I think for the splitting maul you could fashion a guard from some 14 or 12 gauge to wrap the open side and pin it or tack it in place. Functionality over ascetics always. I love your taste in tools and your in depth reviews and look forward to every post .🙂
I guess how you treat tools depends on how you grew up and how much you can spend on them. Personally, I buy similar tools as GTR, like Wera screwdrivers, some Wiha, Knipex pliers, even some Japanese stuff. I usually pay good money for them. Now, I grew up in a sort-of "middle class" family where monetary safety was given but strict rules applied. I buy expensive tools to last so I don't have to get new ones every now and then, but do my research to buy the best for my money. When I have them, I usually respect them enough to put them back into their case and the proper drawer, and try to avoid using them for tasks they were not designed for (like prying with a flathead screwdriver). But also if I have nothing at hand, I will get the job done even if that goes against the previous statement. When I break an expensive tool, I keep it as a sacrificial one, for example I have a broken Wera flathead driver that serves me as a prybar since it's already broken. But then again, I'm a hobby repairman and gadget builder, I have a job as engineer where I don't use my own tools that often. I even spent some time designing some UK made Shadow Foam for them to avoid hitting each other and carry them in my custom Festool systainers. Since it's not my job I'm usually not in a hurry and I don't just start on a PZ screw with a PH driver because it takes time, I actually switch them to avoid long-term damage, and it only takes 5 seconds. I also clean them after work so prolong their lifespan since many are made of plastic or are prone to rust. Just last night I grinded down my hammer that I forgot to oil and renewed it's surface even though it's a cheapo OBI hammer.
@@HunGredy I have a sightly different background as you. I grew up on a 4rd generation dairy farm small town in Massachusetts. Not much extra money floating around, and i too was taught to by the best you can afford and to take care of it. That is still with me today. I am now fortunate enough to be able to own a good variety of more expensive and better performing tools like Wiha, Wera, and Knipex tools. I dont own many Stahlwille, Hazet or Gedore. They are just too pricey for me. That being said I never intentionally misuse or abuse the better quality tools I have. I own plenty of Harbor Freight, Stanley, Irwin, and craftsman tools for those tasks. I really dont consider tossing my tools in a tool box abusing them . Precision tools with cases stay in cases. I too occasionally will wipe my better tools down with Ballistol just not after every use. I use some WD-40 on the cheap "beaters" and wouldn't waste Ballistol on them. I'm still frugal. 😉
Everybody is going cheaper even Germany ☹
The Wiha BiCut ”locking function” would very quickly become annoying.
I bought a pair about 2 years ago and that's what made me stop using them. If you stick them in a pouch or your back pocket they eventually seem to "wiggle" into the middle locking position. Really annoying having to push the button every time I took them out of my pocket.
I eventually just switched to Knipex 8" cutters and never looked back..
PhysicsDude55 Yeah, I have not used the Wiha BiCut myself since I am very happy with my Knipex set of various pliers.
I have a set of the Felo wooden screwdrivers. I have not noticed any chipping of chrome, though they usually get used for lighter-duty projects.
I'd be interested to see something on saw's
I still think Wiha are ridiculously over-priced for what you get
I'd be interested to know how much use that Felo Phillips head screwdriver has actually had? When did he buy them? How intense was the use because that looks kinda soft compared to the general wear & tear on the rest of the tool
I've had a pair of these for nearly two years now and I couldn't be happier with them. I was in KCTool picking up an order and they had these there so I grabbed them. I don't use them on a daily basis but often enough and I can see how the button issue occurs but with the frequency in which I use them, this isn't a big deal for me. I love your reviews and pov, you've got me into several new tools!
Can you please do a tool box tour from South Africa
Honestly I believe the wooden handles screwdrivers are for decoration not professional use?
They are very comfortable in the hand. Try one; they're cheap.
Some people _REALLY_ like the feel of a wood handle in the hand. I'm not one of them, but I've met a few.
Wiha or knipex cutters?
knipex all the way
Knipex and don't look back.
Knipex without a shadow of a doubt. I have a few Wiha tools and they are better than Stanley but not as good as Knipex (or Wera if talking drivers)
Knipex :)
Knipex
Re Wiha cutters, I guess with European Health & Safety regulations, the Germans would see the auto locking as a safety feature as you have to treat everyone as three year old child.
Hey German tool reviews, is there a reason you cut wire using the "hollow" side of the cutters, or is it just habit?
I use side cutters the same way, mostly because it is easier to cut then strip the wire that way.