Enduro Ebike build start to finish
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2021
- I put a ebike build video together to help others who may be thinking of taking on the same build. I ran into some problems and found some ways to get around them and maybe pass on ways to avoid them in the first place.
using 72v system with 150amp 72150 sabvoton controller.
q205 5000w hub motor zoom forks xod brakes (lord help me lol)
Shinko 24119 275 tires DMR bars stem and pedals.
Battery Build
• DIY 72v ebike battery ...
Speed Run
• 72v Enduro Ebike Speed...
Parts for Build:
Frame
www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Bic...
Rear Shock
www.ebay.com/itm/DNM-BURNER-R...
Bolts for the rear shock
a.aliexpress.com/_mN7wVE1
Forks
www.ebay.com/itm/MTB-Bicycle-...
Handlebars
www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ha...
Stem
www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ha...
Brake Disc
www.ebay.com/itm/MTB-Bike-Dis...
203 mm brake adaptor brackets
a.aliexpress.com/_mL7Dg1x
Brakes
a.aliexpress.com/_mKqarW1
Seat
www.ebay.com/itm/WTB-Rocket-S...
Seat clamp
www.ebay.com/itm/MTB-Bike-Bol...
Chain x2
www.ebay.com/itm/Sunlite-Scn-...
Chain Tensioner
www.ebay.com/itm/New-BLACK-Si...
Cranks 152mm
a.aliexpress.com/_mrOzu0D
Pedals
www.dmrbikes.com/Catalogue/Pe...
Motor kit upgrade to 72150 controller and 19-in motorcycle wheel and add 19 inch front motorcycle wheel
app.alibaba.com/dynamiclink?t...
Build Info:
Sabvoton 72150 mod and new style braket info
• Ebike build 72v 12,500...
where to buy:
www.aliexpress.com/item/40012...
PVC crown race tool
• How to install a crown...
Bearing cup tool credit tool credit
• DIY Enduro Ebike Build...
DIY lithium battry book
www.amazon.com/DIY-Lithium-Ba...
Battery build video yev getman
• How to build a MASSIVE...
This was a GREAT video, and I'm certainly saving it to my favorites for reference purposes. Thanks for making and sharing this! It takes a lot of guess work out of the process!
Awesome video with lots of details. I just ordered my frame and rear shock today, so I'll probably be watching your videos multiple times in the process. Thanks you!
Talent and humbleness a combination you have! 👍
That is hilariuoius you said that because thats exactly how i started.. I got back into RC cars about 2 years ago after not having them since i was a kid. I LOOOOVVVEEEEE the advancements in the RC world. I currently have an Arrma Typhon 6s, Kraton 6S, Typhon 3S, Kraton 2s, WLtoys 144001 brushless, 144001 stock, WLtoys A959 brushless, A959 stock.
After 2 years of wishing i could ride inside the rc cars because i miss dirtbikes and gokarts, I decided to look into electric vehicles so i could drive on the street and not get harrassed by cops. I ended up going with scooters because theyre regulated less than e-bikes in NY.. My very first scooter was a cheap 48V 1600W nothing scooter, and my current scooter is an Xplor Odyssey. 60V 6000W. It hauls ass!
So i definitely get your need for speed bug. RC cars are great, i love em, but sometimes you dont wanna sit on the side lines controlling your vehicle, sometimes you need to feel the wind in your hair!
I’m building a very similar bike, same frame and this video is very helpful, thank you so much
Thx for the vid, I have a delfast and its the same frame, hits 61mph, Seeing how its all put together was great!
Great build bro ..I liked the way you shared all links in detail
I love those zoom forks, all ya need for street and trail, not like we're going whistler is it
Informative and entertaining to watch LOL. I love the, (product name) then laughing at it, then saying, “I haven’t even tried it yet, I’m kidding” lol
Nice Build brother we have a similar setup and I hear those zoom forks are pretty good on the street forget the haters keep the videos coming
Thank you yeah I think those forks should be fine on the street.
For the spacer issue in the back perhaps use 2 torque arms and run a bolt through them both. Looks fine as is too!
Looking forward to seeing this done 💯👍👍😁
You need a laptop to download the sabaton controller without that it's not going to work right
Cool build Sam !!
Thank you Zane been a long time man hope all is well!
Thanks for all of the links!
I built one went with 72v35ah batt and the 5000w v3 and it’s insane I go about 45 miles jammin out per charge
Can you change batteries during the day? Or it doesn't get off the frame?
@@PapaleguasNY late response but technically yes a battery swap would be possible but carrying around a 30 pound battery in a backpack would not be very fun assuming you need the extra range to get the the next juice station
Hey man how much did it cost you?
@@corbinandersen809, I was thinking a rack in the back with the extra battery when you might need it, not very often you would need it with you.
heya guys to get the higher speeds and long travel distances i recoment opting for the new 3.7 volt 20 amp hour flat pack lithium cells,they all bolt together in series ,so no spot welding and can output the 100 to 150 amp dc continous that you want,also has benifit of being able to charge inexcess off 50 to 60 amps ,so can charge up in an hour .most of the 18650 based batterys out there just cant supply a 100 amp continous ,the spot welded nickle strips just arnt dense enough to channel it.
Hi, I'm interested...could you provide more info and/or link? Thank you
I know what you mean about tossing all of the reflectors right off the bat. I’m not against safety, but I hate the imbalance. I can feel with those pieces of plastic screwed to the spokes. I found something that I really like that gives you the reflector safety, without messing with the bikes performance, “ Rim Tape” I have black rims and I got their Black Ice version. It isn’t as black as the wheel paint, dark charcoal would be a proper description. But very effective reflector. Looking forward to seeing the ride.
I got the 18650 batteries from old Bird scooters! They use LG brand batteries. You can actually use the whole setup if you dont trash the wiring tearing it apart. Its a 38 cell pack.
You really were ambitious making the battery too.
we had one of these frames to and managed to reduce the frame weight to 13.5 kilos ,had to make alot of cut outs ,and carbon panel inserts but makes big difference ,also changed the rear shock to a 320 mm external resiviour.just needed new mounts thats all.
also thinking of drilling out hole saw holes in swing arm maybee 5 each side to reduce more weight,
the biggest plus mod was makeing a single sided jack shaft ,so its possible to ride the bike around town pedaling with out using the motor, alot of stuffing round ,but makes its a useable bike now.
Wait your going to put a hole in your swingarm, no don’t
@@HIPfreez226 I’d say your message was never received and the Swiss cheese swing arm claimed yet another victim
@@Agilepickleunite no it worked a treat used gold anodised tube inserts for contrast ,there is still zero flex in the swing arm we are talking 8mm think extra hard carbon steel with 2 mm steel sheet creating the box look ,its way over kill in the first place
Thanks Great video
Great vid cheers 👍
For the backspacer maybe grind down one side of the washer so that it's flat and put the flat side toward the wire then the one that came with it can be up against the frame so another video where a guy did that with two washers seem to work very well with him same exact issue
Hello, I have an update video of this bike build and I just ended up leaving them out completely. I'm using the torque arms for spacers.
My frame came in’ same color as yours….but mine came with four torc straps with a square bit built into them…..it’s hard to explain….but it makes the rear tire easy to install….the brackets slide right into the dropout spacing and there adjustable….I believe they updated the drop out torc armed to slide into the rear fork slots.then they bolt into the fork and the side nut is tightened….the only confusing part is I was sent 4 of them’ maybe it’s for more strength’ if you have a 5000watt and up motor.
One fits in the slot and the other probably is used for spacing….needless to say I have 2 torc arms for each side.
I think all the frames are the same….but the hardware has been updated….if you got the same company as mine….I received a 200amp Savoton…I believe they gave me the 200amp one by accident….I remember customizing my order for a better display and they sent the upgraded speed controller, and the display I ordered….anyway the mistake was to my advantage.
As for the speed controller size…it baffles me…why they would include a small bottom bracket…to small.
I welded 4 tabs to the bottom part to fit the controller and used some 1/8 MDF plastic to fit the gap….I used a heat gun to fold the plastic, and cut it to shape to fill in the gap’ you don’t need a welder to do it….you can use screws, and some flat 1/8 x 1/2 inch wide steal stock and crew them in….I tack welded mine to look professional.
Gonna do a build video on mine soon’ still waiting on the handle bars and the 7speed shifter….I got lucky and obtained the rear derailleur, and crank from a female MTB I had laying around….my bike will be mostly a road bike…I ended up going with 27.5 inch tires….FYI this frame is able to fit tires all the way to 28 inch….without any special adjustments.
It looks longer….due to the larger tire size….but Unique.
Sounds great man! Can't wait for the video!
I’m 5/7 I had to return the 200mm shock and get a 150mm shock….my bike uses 27.5 tires so it became impossible to get on it so I Measured the eye hole to eye hole…and found a 150mm will lock bad ass….and the travel will not bottom out the frame.
It’s much easier to get on it….it looks almost like a Tron motorcycle’ many old schoolers remember that video game’ I’m gonna put bottom, and rim lights on to give it that touch.
Mine will be mostly road or dirt trails.
I’m wanting to building or get a battery build for me. I’m looking at the QS 273 t3 72v 8000w hub motor 19 inch wheel and street tire and for the Controller: Sabvoton 72200 200 amp controller unlocked
I don’t know what kind of 72v battery I need for this or what kind of BMS to do.
Speed and range are the most important.
This guy's voice and manner of speaking cheers me up. Are you a radio host?
Hi from across the pond in England, great video, im also building a Enduro bomber bike, i wish to give you some advice, 1, please set your sanctions flush with your upper crown, or yokes as we say in England, i notice alot of people dont and forks are not ment to be poking our of your top yokes.
2, please ditch your cheap $15 headset they supply you with, instead by a FSA 360 Orbital headset, with sealed bearings. FSA make the best headsets in the world, very durable and reliable and hardly needs servicing and only around $30 for a top FSA headset, also go for short stem and high riser bars so your body position is similar to motorcross. Or instead do what i did and treat yourself to a set of Rocksox boxxer front triple clamp forks because they use direct mount bars system thats very much like motorcross bars.. i notice that mountain bikes use stems that put the riders arms / hands over the front wheel, where as motorcycles the bars are directly above the fork stem, not over the front wheel, i hope the advise helps :)
Hello and thank you for watching, as far as the forks go I left them like they came I did not want to lower them flush because that would raise the height of the bike and I'm having a problem with that as it is because I'm short LOL I agree the headset is not the best but it seems to be working okay for the moment I like the way Iam sitting now, I have the seat as low as possible the short stem brings the bars back to me, kind of like an Enduro or downhill mountain bike. If I was taller and had the seat post adjusted high I can definitely see where the taller bars would help.
I don't know how active you are on here and if you answer questions but I just received my sabvoton controller (v2) and I'm not seeing a connector for the display?
What sized cranks fit on the bottom bracket and do you know or anyone know of anyways to fit pegs instead of pedals I just ordered this same frame I definitely payed more but I can’t really complain
Hello Sam, Great video! I just ordered the same exact frame. The pivot bolts for the shock, can they be ordered on Amazon or eBay? Also does it absolutely have to be a 200mm shock or can I go with something less? What breaks would you recommend also? Thanks in advance.
Hello, I went with the 190mm shock and I ended up finding the pivot bolts for the shock on AliExpress
Yo yo yo those jamb nuts go on first son!
looks so fun im building one! for the rear shock absorber would it help to use 210mm or 220mm since im 6'9 ?
Hello and thank you for watching, my frame for what ever reason called for a 190mm but with your height I think a 210 or 220 would be great for seat height and not to mention the extra travel
Hey there build looking sweet so far! Congrats and thanks for the very informative video, I was wondering, what are the dimensions of your 20s12p battery pack/mockup? I would like to fit something similar on a different frame, thanks in advance!
Hello the battery ended up being 7 x 14 x 5.5 inches this is a link to the battery build video ruclips.net/video/lgOZQGRH3H4/видео.html
Yes i got the same eith the company ncycle and i get mine in two week real fast because they jave a new shipping metod door to door
Hi how can you adjust the seat to lower. I’m 5’8 and thing is way too big even dropping the seat the lowest.
Well I've seen some people lower the entire seat mount basically move it to the bottom holes on the frame and then you may have to drill two new ones to mount it completel.
Nicely built, quite the informative video, let’s see how it rides?!
I know im asking randomly but does someone know of a method to log back into an instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the login password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
@Seth Noah instablaster =)
Can you give me a parts list mate for all parts u bought iv made a normal ebike 1500w rear wheel will do 35mph but I fancy doing another one like this thanks bud 👍 watching from Wales 🏴
Hello, I have a parts list in the description of the video with links, please let me know if you need anything else thank you for watching and good luck on your build!
Great !!!
thanks for the informative video and links to what you bought, amazing. What was your total cost for your build do you think?
Hello and thank you! I have about 3k in it without the tools like the spot welder that I had to buy , with all the tools probably 3500. That's complete with the battery.
I also had trouble with the lower bearings, no tool either, but I ended up finding a metal tube not quite the right size, so I put several aluminum rings at the end. I had found it, and I hit with a big hammer but I had placed a thick piece of wood on the tube, it was not easy to put on this bearing anyway, it would take specific tools as they have in the factory ...
J'ai eu du mal aussi avec les roulements inférieurs, pas d'outil non plus, mais j'ai fini par trouver un tube métal pas tout à fait de la bonne dimension, alors j'ai mis au bout plusieurs anneau en alu que j'avais retrouvé, et j'ai tapé avec un gros marteau mais j'avais posé sur le tube un morceau de bois épais, ça n'a pas été facile à enfiler quand même ce roulement, il faudrait des outils spécifiques comme ils ont en usine...
Any chance you could go through your links and update them, most of the eBay listings aren’t available anymore but I see similar listing, just want to make sure I’m getting everything I need.
Also all in what’s the build cost. Looking to be under $3k
Hello I know I'm sorry about that but I don't want to just put random links in for Sellers and and parts that I didn't actually buy. But most of the stuff is standard anyway I wouldn't worry too much about it I would get the frame first and then you'll have your specs for everything else
As far as the price you're going to be well over 3K if you're going for something with some serious power if you're not worried about speed and power too much you might be okay
what pedal crank kit did you use with this frame? I cant find any info on it.
I used this one from AliExpress 152 mm with a 32 tooth chain ring I'm having problems with links from AliExpress into RUclips but you should be able to copy and paste it into a browser
US $29.51 49%OFF | 104BCD Bicycle Crank Sprocket 152mm 170mm MTB Bike Square Hole Crankset 30T 32T 34T 36T 38T Narrow Wide Single Speed Chainring
a.aliexpress.com/_mqOt2sp
They say you can mount those motorcycle style longer seats on these but I don’t really see how with that post in the way
The post is sitting in a bracket that's held on by four bolts and that bracket is changed when you switch to a motorcycle seat
Hi Sam! Thanks for your informative video’s! I’m following your build with mine and wanted to ask how long shipping took for the motor?
Hello, you are welcome and thank you for watching, the motor, rims, controller basically a kit is what I ordered, it took about a week for them to prepare it because they test it before they ship it and then about 3 weeks shipping so about a month.
@@samjohnson517 She looks awesome
What is the issue with the forks? Would they have a hard time offroad? I am trying to build a similar thing for ripping around dirt paths but am totally new to this.
Hello if you're going to be manly off-road I'd probably step up on the forks maybe get some dnms these are okay but they're kind of annoying off-road they just make a lot of noise and the dampening is not very good
The link for the frame is dead. Can you tell me which frame you used? Is it this one, "Voilamart Electric Bike Frame Steel for 48V 3000W-5000W Stealth Bomber DIY Kit"?
Yeah those links are long gone I'm pretty sure my frame came with something that said vollomart can't be sure Ibut believe that there are a lot of companies that make these frames and then just put their name on it, kind of generic
where did you get front wheel and tyre from ? thanks for the vid been a great guide
I added it to the motor and controller kit when I ordered it
How do you take the rear wheel on and off?
Heard I need to disconnect some of the electric cables, got no idea what I'm doing when it comes to electronics. Never seen you do this in the video so missed the most important bit.
It's nice to know if the Hub motor broke I would know how to replace it or a basic tier change.
Well if you're just doing a tire change you do not have to disconnect the wiring you can remove the tire from the side of the rim that does not have wiring. If you are changing the hub motor then yes you will need to disconnect the wires that run to the controller, there will be three large wires and usually two plugs.
@@samjohnson517 okay thanks for that I'll bear in mind for future
hi, some of your links are dead ok, plus do you have a link to the seat post you are using ?plus a link to the headlight you used ok ?
I know some of the AliExpress onesie don't work this is the headlight lonk
a.aliexpress.com/_m0SdqQ0
If it does not work maybe you can copy and paste into a browser oh and DO NOT use the seat post I used see this video
ruclips.net/video/pUginrtFjyQ/видео.html
Alot of the links are dead. Can you revise the links? I want to build one.
Hey Sam! Your ebike build has inspired me to do my own. I’m working on putting it together right now but my controller didn’t come with any instructions. What are the two small connectors for that come out of the controller? Mine came plugged in to eachother.
Yes leave those connected together unless you need to do the hall test or change some of the parameters then you would disconnect them
@@samjohnson517 awesome thank you! One more question- my hub motor has two big connectors coming off of it along with the motor phase cables. One connector has the RGBY wires so I know it’s the motor phase wires and it plugs into the matching connector coming out of the controller. The other connector has brown, white, purple, grey, orange, and silver wires and there isn’t a matching connector coming out of the controller for it. Do you know what this connector is for and if it’s supposed to be plugged in to anything?
It is just an extra phase connector mine has a cap on it. Just use the face connector with the corresponding wires
2 things you will need to do. The rear swing arm rubber bush, too flexible and will wear out quickly. Best thing is to cut it out and replace with deep groove bearings, it will make a big difference. The zoom forks will be okay for a short while, but then will become a pogo stick and will also rattle badly when you brake. I replaced my front fork with a Suntour XCR34 air. Perfect and allows much more steering. (Needs a slight mod to head tube for the taper steerer). This is not complaining about the equipment, just lessoned learned.
Thank you John, yeah I knew the forks were going to be one thing I'll need to upgrade I will definitely keep an eye on that swing arm.
Please somebody tell me the size of the rear axle. Mine straight snapped. Don't know why. But I need a replacement. I could use some help.
Hello the axle it's kind of an oval shape so it's 12mm by 16mm
hi, where can i get a front wheel for this please ? thank you, your link for this wheel set up, is dead ok.
Hello, I am using 19 inch motorcycle wheels, try this link
a.aliexpress.com/_mNb2gyY
We're gonna look back at videos like this in the future and laugh about how primitive this was. Electric vehicles are going to go to the next level.
Can you provide a part list . I want to build the same bike.
Okay let me see what I can do I'll try to put some links in the description.
Great video! Thank you for sharing. Does it cost more to build your own than order a complete bike from Alibaba? Also what is the seat height? Would this be too tall for a 5'6 rider? Thanks again
Pricing on these very quite a bit it really depends on the components you use in your build and then compared it to a complete bike. As far as the seat height it's about 34 in using the 190 mm shock but keep in mind it does sag quite a bit I am 5'7 I think you'll be fine.
They should paint or anodize the triple trees?
Yeah probably look better black, although the raw aluminum is not that bad, but these are low quality forks anyway.
can u link where you bought the front wheel and tire?
Hello unfortunately I cannot get links to work from Alibaba it was a kid it came with the rims controller motor from a seller called ncycle bike the tires I purchased separately you can find those here www.cyclegear.com/tires/shinko-sr-241-series-tires
I bent the rails to narrow my controller now she fits snug, ya gotta love EBIKES, i love mine, nobody even knows you've just blown by on the street 🤣the cops can't hear you
Hi mate ive the same controller...what is the 3 small wires going into one plug for ? Is it 12v ?
Hello Steve, great channel by the way! On my controller, maybe it is like yours, I never understood why it did not have all of the wires that you normally see on these, like for lights horn etc. I have the two pin plug for the harness (brakes throttle and screen) and I have the plug for the motor and then I have a small three wire plug that I believe has something to do with the hall test because it says to disconnected before doing the hall test and then reconnect it after the test.
When I changed the brackets of the unit I did notice a bunch of wires inside not being used, they chose not to run those outside for some reason.
I have the same problem trying to run 12 volt out of this unit.
I am just going to use a 72 volt to 12 volt converter, I am going to hook the converter directly to the controller positive and negative.
@@samjohnson517 thanks for your reply...yes its weird ive not cone across one like this...its the small male controller im struggling with has 3 small wires going into the small male connector... so ive no pas on this ? Do you have pas on yours ? ....
@@steve7163 no I do not, it is probably one of the wires inside the unit maybe remove one of the covers see if you have all the wires inside like mine.
My only concern is that controller not getting enough cold air inside the frame, I think I'll try just fabrication widen the box on front down tube
Yes I have the same concern check this video out made some modifications and did some heat testing
ruclips.net/video/Rim9OYkVG5o/видео.html
hey sam. im building an ebike like yours. Im finding it very difficult to fires tires. the kit that i got say that the freewheel is 1.6x19 and the rear motor wheel is 2.5x19. what tires did you use?
I used shinko 241 size 2.75x 19 they work great on street and dirt
@@samjohnson517 do you happen to recall what size the rims were? The kit that I bought doesn't use the same size front and rear.
@@NirvashOne money both the same I believe they're 1.6 you may have to jump to a 3.00 tire for the back but make sure you have enough room between the swing arm
Hi sam how the breaks still work fine what lenght its the rear break hose because i have the same frame on my way thank you in advance and i still waiting on more videos from you
Hello yes the brakes are not great but they work okay especially after I changed the brake pads to semi metallic
Rear brake hose length is 155 cm
@@samjohnson517 thank you sam God Bless You man I don’t know wish one i can bought i buy 203 mm magura break rotor and I bought the mounts thank to you info
Is there a way to change the rear tire without having to unwire the rear motor?
Oh absolutely you do not have to disconnect the wire to change the tire, all you do is cut the zip ties off that hold the wire, that gives you enough slack to pull the rim off and then you remove the tire from the freewheel side.
That’s why I build 6s batteries and run them in series! That way I can charge it with my rc car charger lol that way I can either run 50v, 75v, 100v
I'm a tall man do you recommend 21in wheels instead? Or will it affect the performance too much?
I do not have experience with 21in wheels I do not think one would fit on the back,. This is a pretty big bike as it sits but if you're looking to raise the seat height I would try a longer rear shock instead
How did you cut of the rail on the controller?
Hello, I used to jigsaw, I left a very small ridge enough to get some u-shaped weather stripping over the area I cut, that's just for cosmetic though.
Hi mate can you remember if you had to install the bottom crown race bracket on the folks
Hello yes I had to install it, I used that big PVC pipe in my video to pound it on.
@@samjohnson517 thank you for the reply I bloody 4got to put mine on. As I add a lip at the bottom of the steering tube
Hey sam great job on the build. I have one question with the breaks adaptors link you have posted in the description there are 2 to choose from, which one works with this frame I was going to be making a similar build to your bike and I just wasn't sure which ones to buy. Thanks
Hello and thank you! one is for the front and one is for the rear the rear one has the extreme curve in it.
@@samjohnson517 Awesome. Thanks very much!!
would you be able to help me out with parts for a 3000w build? It would help out a lot.
hi Sami, i have a question because i have the same kelly kls7230s and qs205 v3 t5 3000w controller with a 72v 30ah Samsung 21700
bms 120a battery, what percentage do you mark in current motor and current battery in the controller parameters? Thanks in advance and greetings!!!
Hello mine is actually a sabaton 72150
Are you talking about phase current?
If so mine is set at dc/boost current : 150 amp, max amp 350 and protect 450 amp
@@samjohnson517 sam your motor is the qs205 v3 3000w?
@@liberto2065 5000w
@@samjohnson517 ok
@@liberto2065 internal speed limit 65%
Low speed limit 45%
Mid speed limit 85%
Where did you get your front rim and spokes from? Working on a build now and would greatly appreciate your insight! Thanks for adding in so may details! Add one more subscriber! 🙂👍
Hello thank you! I purchased the rims, motor and controller all together in a kit from Ncycle they are on AliExpress and Alibaba. The rims were fully assembled in fact the entire kit was plug and play.
Awesome! One more quick question. Where did you find your headlight that you installed later? I've looked all over and can't find it cheaper than 40! Thanks so much for your help!
@@grantgall2517no problem at all I'm here to help I got it on AliExpress here is a link
a.aliexpress.com/_mqzgWRx
Let me know if you need anything else
I would build one but don't know if they legal nyc
Can you please provide bottom bracket size? I'm interesting in building on this frame with mid drive motor, but I can't find any information about it.
Hello it is difficult to measure with the cranks on but looks like the shaft is 155 mm long 16 mm diameter the outer diameter of the bracket is about 40 mm
@@samjohnson517 Hmm... Thought maybe bottom bracket would be similar to common bikes between 68mm to 120mm for fat tire bikes. Thanks for your input though.
@@BZ0_0fficial_Muzik315 I understand but the frame is 152 mm wide if the bottom bracket was shorter the cranks would hit the frame
DNM rear shock absorber damper how many lbs?
550lbs it's a a little soft I weigh in at about 175 lb
Put the race in your freezer overnight or a couple hours before installation.
Or just get some dry ice?
Nice video i got a question if someone can answer, im doing my own ebike build and wanted to know the make of ur wheel on the front if possible as i wanna use tyres with better tread. Thanks in advance
Hello, I added the front rim to my kit when I ordered it. The rims are unbranded, I'm using shinko 241 tires which have been working great for Street and dirt.
@@samjohnson517 thanks for speedy reply, i was looking at getting 20 inch rear hub but having problems looking for the front wheel, didnt know where to start :)
@@chriswallace9867 no problem yeah for some reason the front wheels are a little tough to find here's one it's a fat tire it's a little pricey though
a.aliexpress.com/_mtmz0Tq
@@samjohnson517 awesome thanks again will start to look based on the one u have suggested, price is nps.
Make those dropouts come to you
I want the exact wheels ,motor, controller ect. Link in description does not work. Please help
I know I'm having problems with that Alibaba link, open up the Alibaba app and search for a seller called Ncycle, it is not something you can just add to the cart you have to contact them and customize it like this: it is the 5000w kit, you will need to specify 3.5 turn motor and upgrade the controller from 100 to 150 amp, add a 19 inch front motorcycle wheel (the rear wheel is also a 19 inch motorcycle wheel. ) Tell them to keep the brakes the ones in the kit are not hydraulic.
encycle.m.en.alibaba.com/index.html?wx_navbar_transparent=true&tracelog=sns_minisite
I wish someone would build me a bike like that
just file some of the bottom of spacer so it dont touch the cable and put the torque arm outside
I tried that but nothing holds that axle better than that torque arm right next to it I mean that thing's not going to ever spin out like it is it's just way stronger like that
Hey I just received a 8000w version of this exact bike from Alibaba. Can you please tell me your advance settings? Here are mine -
Current limit - 120A
Poles in motor - 32
throttle PWM % - 0
Assist poles - 12
Does this look right to you? Thanks
Man I wish I can help you I have the controller out of the bike right now and I don't remember the exact settings but keep in mind just because the bike looks like mine doesn't mean that it has the same electronics so I would be careful with that, I know my controller is set at 150 amp but you may have a different controller.
@@samjohnson517 I have the Sabvoton controller with bluetooth 72v 150a, 72v. 40 AMP Panasonic Cells
. when you put it back can you make a video and go through each settings in the ukc1 menu? thank you!
Also do you remember if you put 19in in the UKC1 setting?
Yo who did u buy from
Which tires are compatible? What is the frame specification?
I'm running 19 inch motorcycle wheels with 2.75x19 shinko 241 tires they're about 3 in wide
You Live n& Learn self building - I'm considering building one.
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT - I think amyway - I saw Sam swapped bolts for different type & need to check the specification when switching any bolt that's going to have a load on it. The retailers will or should have a specification saying what strength the bolt is. I imagine the the bolt & arm prevent the motor from spinning round instead of the wheel!!
Don't think spacer material is as important as it'll be fixed & won't be acting as a bearing BUT AGAIN WHAT IS NECCESSARY I BELIEVE - I think you need to put a string line from the front sprocket to the back of the rear sprocket. If the string line doesn't lay flat across both sprocket faces then the sprockets aren't in line & the chain won't lay right & therefore space each side accordingly if the motor isn't designed for the wheels & frame etc that you're using. - I'm sure most people are aware & appologies if already been said. After all these E bikes are getting some power put on them lately!
Hello Martin, hmmm, I don't remember switching any bolts, the frame did not come with the pivot bolts for the rear shock I purchased those separately they are titanium I don't really like titanium bolts, titanium is kind of brittle. you're absolutely right on the grade though, I you don't want to use cheap bolts where there's a load involved .
@@samjohnson517 Yep - meant switching for others you purchased! I'm in uk lol a language thing maybe. Yep titanium like stainless brittle. As long as they're rated for the stresses
You drilled a hole for the torque arms?
Yes, just a side note in my later videos I ended up leaving out those washers completely and just using the torque arms themselves for spacers.
How much money did you have into the bike before the batteries
About 2k
Did you run into any overheating issues with your controller being inside the frame?
No I have not, I rode to the max range 42 miles and I was not easy on it, I did not have any problems.
Can it be fitted with mid drive motor?
I mean when it comes down to it you can pretty much make anything work with modifications, but the short answer is no because the frame is too wide
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can i use 29" wheels with this frame
Most are Up to 27.5 but ask the shop that you're buying it from, personally I would not use bicycle wheels they're too weak and will have to use bicycle tires which means flats which are a pain to fix on this bike
What's the cost if I would like to build one that only go 45km/h and that have a 4kw motor?
Hello here is a link to my review video breaking down all of the costs
ruclips.net/video/HZ7lAXzMLag/видео.html
@@samjohnson517 Thanks
You could have it machined a little bit more so you could put a heavy duty washer against that piece you would have the Hub could be machine then maybe to mmmm and the shaft would stick out just a little bit more so you can put a heavy duty washer there
Where did you get the wheels
Hello they came in the kit with the controller they're 19 inch motorcycle the place I got the kit from is called Ncyclebike you can find them on AliExpress and Alibaba
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I'd definitely upgrade your discs.i had to lock up the brakes on mine and it literally blew them apart and the rear warped to shit.. do it, it could save your life
Hello, yeah the brakes are definitely on the upgrade list. I hammered those pretty good though I'm surprised that they're taking the beating they are. I changed my pads to some semi-metallic and it sure did make a big difference, but yeah they need to be changed. I am going to go with magura mt5e and magura 203mm disc
@@samjohnson517 right on brotha.just looking out.yea, no joke my rotors litterly had just obliterated when I locked them up,and it was a nasty crash
@@samjohnson517 Post an update video with all the components/changes for your final build. Looks amazing so far
@@c2thew thank you! I have just been riding it like it is, as far as the brakes I changed the pads to semi-metallic and they actually made a big difference. But when I do some upgrades I definitely will post an updated video.
Link for the tires you bought?
Sure;
www.jpcycles.com/product/29964/shinko-sr241-series-motorcycle-tires
@@samjohnson517 thank you
I can easy see weak points of this frame . Be aware of it during of road riding
Can you ride this in bicycle lanes?
Hello, well I'm not sure where you are you may want to check your local laws/ rules but here in Southern California you can ride the bike lanes no problem.
When you ride either even a Speed bike or others ... it always requires a lot of adaptation, that's the problem and sometimes it takes our head but by thinking we always manage to find solutions, but which are not always the best, that's why you have to watch other people's videos lol! to find new ideas, solutions and others at the aesthetic level too ...
Quand on monte soit même un Speed bike ou autres... ça demande toujours beaucoup d'adaptation, c'est çà le problème et parfois ça nous prend la tête mais en réfléchissant on arrive toujours à trouver des solutions, mais qui ne sont pas toujours les meilleures, c'est pour cela qu'il faut regarder les vidéos des autres lol ! pour trouver de nouvelles idées, solutions et autres au niveau esthétique aussi...