Music Man StingRay 1989 VS 2018 StingRay Special
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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Sound Comparison. Stingray Special VS Stingray 1989.
Music Man Stingray Special 2018
Roasted Maple neck | Ebony Fingerboard | New 3-Band active preamp | 18 volt power supply | 5 Bolts neck | Light hardware - new style bridge and tuners | Neodymium pickup | Aqua Sparkle color | 3.7kg
Music Man Stingray 1989
Birdseye Maple neck | Pau Ferro Fingerboard | Old style 3-Band active preamp | 9 volt power supply | 4 Bolts neck | Old style bridge with mutes | Alnico pickup | Sunburst color | 3.7kg
-Both basses recorder with the same new DR Low Rider nickel 40-100 strings.
-Both basses recorded with exactly the same EQ positions. Without a doubt, a much more similar or even the same sound can be set if the EQ positions are set differently on each bass.
-Darkglass Adam drive used on both basses on the last part.
Parts with drums:
0:14 Treble 0 | Middle 0 | Bass 0
1:49 Treble +30% | Middle -15% | Bass +15%
3:18 Treble -15% | Middle 0 | Bass 0
4:47 Treble 0 | Middle 0 | Bass 0
6:08 Treble -100% | Middle +100% | Bass +60% | Sponge mute
7:47 Treble +60 | Middle 0 | Bass 0 | DG drive
Solo basses (no drums):
1:17 Treble 0 | Middle 0 | Bass 0
2:48 Treble +30% | Middle -15% | Bass +15%
4:10 Treble -15% | Middle 0 | Bass 0
5:36 Treble 0 | Middle 0 | Bass 0
7:10 Treble -100% | Middle +100% | Bass +60% | Sponge mute
8:53 Treble +60 | Middle 0 | Bass 0 | DG drive
Recorded through Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 directly to DAW.
NO EDITING, except a bit of compression just on a slap part.
Music themes in this video (different from mine):
-RHCP | Walkabout
-RHCP | Suck My Kiss
-RATM | Killing In The Name
Many thanks to my friend Nesha @nenad.vojnovic for sharing his beautiful 1989 bass for my test.
No copyright infringement intended.
Great video!! Thanks for this!! I have 3 specials and a 07 and 04 and 2 sterlings and my 04 is my baby all day!!! I want a 78 so bad!! They sound killer!!!
One of the best comparison between these two basses!
I prefer the Special 2018 because it's sound more definited and its hi-end is less "aggressive" and exagerated (smoother) than the 1899 one...
Thank You :)
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This is an amazing video!!
My opinion (that no one asked for):
1989 overall more Trebly, making it probably less versatile than the Special.
Special sounds darker, but his enhanced EQ makes it an extremely versatile bass.
Cheers!
Thanks, opinions are most welcome :)
I love both, they have very similar sounds but the vintage one was much more aggressive with the distortion.
The EQ works differently on the Special. You can get the same sound of the vintage just by tweaking the treble (had the same struggle at the beginning, then I've realised they need to be treated as totally different instruments). Cheers!
Great vid! Thanks for putting this out!
You think you can get a similar aggressive tone with the special? You mention EQing differently. How so?
Thanks!
1989❤😊
loved them both
Me to 👍
Perhaps because I had an 89 Stingray, I am biased, but it's still the Signature of Stingrays. Such a beautiful bass to behold. Thank you for reminding me its tone!
Thanks for watching!
I prefer the Ebony's tome as smoother and richer and the reason I bought an 2018 Ebony 4HH. I already own a 2000 Stingray but I really love the Ebony Specials.
I've had 3 older Stingrays and sold em' because didn't like how they sit in a live mix. Now I have the new version in a 5 string, and it's the only bass that I play live now out of all the other bass I have...
So no one has recognized the first song? Walkabout is definitely in my top 3 from One Hot Minute.
Yeah, mine to! Probably one of the most beautiful Stingray sounds ever recorded. Thanks for watching 👍
@@ObraBass Didn't Flea use Alembic Epic for the record though? (aside from Aeroplane) I honestly don't know but it sure sounds a lot like a Stingray
@@Pufedu I think it was a Stingray on Transcending and Walkabout to.
Nice video. That '89 is a beaut!
Thanks. It's a rare that it is only 3,7kg
the 89er sounds more stingrayish, the recent one more on Sterling territory
Less difference between these two instruments than a 20 degree twist of an EQ knob.
1989 all the way. The 80s and 90s were the best time to be alive
ive got an 89 its great,like the new ones a lot but prefer mine.
Definitely prefer the sound of the Stingray Special. Way more punch and balls. The both, of course, sound like Stingrays, but the old one just sounds thin and wimpy in comparison. Glad I have the Special (two of them). I've owned a half dozen Stingrays (classics, 2-bands, and 3-bands) over the years, and all have sounded good, but the difference here, like I said, makes me glad I have the Specials.
@JimmySpadeful its an audio illusion. You think that because the old stingrays have a naturally more scooped tone and that really does make them better for some things, but the newer ones can get the same sound
I have a special 4h that I love but really thinking about getting a classic as well. How did the Special compare to the classic in your experience? I've heard the special can sound a lot like a classic but I haven't had a chance to compare them back to back.
Aqua sparkle je prelepa boja, ja sam ga skoro uzeo u smoked chrome varijanti, ali jedino tu smatram za lepsu. :D
Ja sam cekao 3 godine da se pojavi negde Aqua Sparkle iz prve serije 🙂.
@@ObraBass nije bas mesto za pitanje, ali sta je tu je. 😂 Kako odrzavas vrat na stingrayu? Je l premazujes povremeno onim gun wax-om koji preporucuju?
@@vanpet1993 ne radim mu nista sa zadnje strane. Povremeno kad menjam zice premazem ebony fingerboard Dunlop limunovim uljem.
@@ObraBass a koliko cesto zahteva sa podesavas truss rod?
@@vanpet1993 Special nisam morao uopste za dve godine za razliku od svih koje sam imao iz devedesetih ili kasnije.
Wow, the special entirely kills the ‘89. The ‘89 sounds so brittle and lacking in punch by comparison. Assuming set up is comparable, as that can have a big impact? Surprised at how weak the ‘89 is!
Yea I agree maybe because the alnico pu vs the neo idk I’m not a fan of the alnico, either the ceramic or the neodymium for me just more of a stingray tone to me at least for my ears I had two alnico stingrays and got rid of them both lol
I think the special just has more bass and gain when set flat, which could make it seem 'punchier'. To me the '89 has more of the iconic Stingray sound and grit - but whether that's a good thing is up to preference.
18v vs 9v running through the preamp is probably adding some juice to the special.
I wouldn't be so sure. A little volume bump at the amp is all it would take to even them out. At that point the Special would most likely just sound like the '89 with the treble turned down, especially in a band.
The ‘89 sounds much better. The 2018 sounds like it has a wet blanket over the pickups, compared to the ‘89. Love that sparkle finish, though.
To me the 2018 has slightly more top and bottom end, not alot....but a bit
Stringrays are roaring basses with a sound of their own. They are not all round....
The 1978 wins it for me... Should have been a 1976 model though
Bought a Special when they came out and sent it back. I didn't like the sound compared to my envy green one from '05.
Ceramic pickup vs neo sumtin i guess
exactly, and that's all (I prefer neodynium)
When you played killing in the name of I felt like the special didn't growl the way it should in a piece like that, same with the slap section, it doesn't growl the same way without that top end. The special sounds bigger, sure... but we have amps for that. If I want a versatile bass I'll just use my J or P.
I'm disappointed that they discontinued the old stingray, now I have to get a pre-owned one. They've nerfed the attribute that set the stingray apart from all other basses, that aggressive growl... too bad. I wish they'll start making the old stingray again.
What amp and eq set up ?
No amp. Straight to Focusrite 2i2 audio interface. EQs on basses You can see at the video info :)
Nothing wrong with either that a P Bass can't fix🤪
The new one sounded better........
89 is the best my opinion more stingray typical grain
Way less personality in the special. Im glad I sold mine