The Stingray Story - How & Why Music Man Updated Their Classic Bass

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @RobChappers
    @RobChappers  6 лет назад +83

    Hi guys, please don’t forget that most mobile phones don’t have speakers that emit low frequencies, so you won’t be hearing a lot of the bass guitar tones unless you wear headphones :-)

    • @terrytickler
      @terrytickler 6 лет назад

      Rob Chapman sounds all good :-)

    • @jordandillow5208
      @jordandillow5208 6 лет назад +1

      I'm here early so uh love the recent videos man

    • @antony6661
      @antony6661 6 лет назад

      Rob Chapman you have 666k subs

    • @tatesmith3518
      @tatesmith3518 6 лет назад

      yea man keep up the recent vids im loving them

  • @the-creech4790
    @the-creech4790 6 лет назад +16

    I'm a proud owner of a Stingray HH, It's the best bass i've ever played! Thanks for this wonderful video!

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 года назад

      Yes my.mam!! I have 3 and a 2020 jet black 5H on layaway!! And I have a sterling sub with EMG pickup and EMG preamp ceramic magnet it is an absolute bad ass!!!

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 6 лет назад +15

    That solo intro is legendary! Awesome to see the bass making its prominent rounds on this channel! I've been seeing they Stringray bass around YT recently, and they look and sound amazing!

  • @k_aos3224
    @k_aos3224 4 года назад +2

    OMG ... the TONE of that "#1" really demonstrates what the Stingray is all about!!! Thanx for the insights!

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 Месяц назад

    Had to watch it again and get reminded of all the cool history involved in the creation of this iconic bass.
    I initially purchased one of the new Sterling Cutlass CT50 HSS models in Firemist Silver. With the intention of modifying it heavily. After finally getting it all dialed in to do everything I'd intended it to. That took longer than I'd figured.
    I was immediately smitten, when one of the all new Stingray Ray34 basses from Sterling. Popped up on sale as a B-stock. In that same Firemist Silver color, for $749. It had detailed pictures of the minor paint blemishes that made it a B-stock. So this was something I took as an advantage. Not only in price. But then you actually get the exact guitar your seeing pictures of. Instead of stock photos of that model from the manufacturer.
    So knowing very little about the bass and its history. I've apparently been blessed with the ability to know a good guitar when I see one. One of the main reasons I'd grabbed it up so fast. Without giving it much thought. Was that it's the first time the Sterling models have been equipped with the same exact pickup and electronics. As the MusicMan basses are built with. No corners cut. Everything's solid as a rock. With virtually no way to even upgrade the guitar? It's already the real deal! That's something I can really appreciate in an affordable guitar.
    Buy once, and be done. Just get the Stingray.

  • @justinkillings5689
    @justinkillings5689 6 лет назад +8

    I’ve owned 3 Stingray’s over the years and it looks like it’s time for # 4!!

    • @kongandbasses8732
      @kongandbasses8732 4 года назад

      I have four of them right now. 2 SR 5, a 1995 in natural finish with rosewood fingerboard and a 1999 in transparent orange with all maple neck, a 1999 SR 4 in honeyburst with amn and a SR 5 Classic in tobaccoburst with amn.
      I checked out two Bongo 5, but I could not become friends with them.

  • @snakeplissken44
    @snakeplissken44 3 года назад +6

    11:32 one of the best transitions in all human history!!

    • @zr2700
      @zr2700 2 года назад +1

      Editors deserve a massive raise for that

  • @Bassic778
    @Bassic778 Год назад +2

    A very cool video!!!! I'm looking forward to getting my first USA StingRay 5 Special HH!!!

  • @florenttenryu5011
    @florenttenryu5011 3 года назад

    Very nice to see the people behind this beautiful instrument. Thank you !

  • @Adamnme01
    @Adamnme01 6 лет назад +2

    the sparkle black st vincent guitar in the background is gorgeous

  • @pillepalle3614
    @pillepalle3614 5 лет назад +4

    Number 1 sounded incredible

  • @tmsglobal5848
    @tmsglobal5848 Год назад

    Very insightful on the StingRay and the team working on them

  • @TacticalHyena
    @TacticalHyena 6 лет назад +10

    that sparkly 4 string with twin pickups is one of, if not the, nicest looking basses ive seen

  • @williamsmothers8830
    @williamsmothers8830 6 лет назад

    Great content - thanks so much for allowing me to tag along.

  • @byjuu246
    @byjuu246 6 лет назад +9

    Stingray #1 sounded the BEST of all the stingray types!!!!!

    • @Libanass
      @Libanass 5 лет назад +1

      It sounded a bit like a Pre-Ernie Ball.. but it is not, it's not even number 1, it should be an 1984 Stingray

  • @dtyndall11
    @dtyndall11 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome video! Love my Starry Night and Old Smoothie Stingrays

  • @richmerrill3940
    @richmerrill3940 5 лет назад +4

    #1 sounds amazing.

  • @FlamesAt1000ft
    @FlamesAt1000ft 4 года назад

    Musicman are my Heroes!...they really put the progress of Bass playing , Composing & Recording for Bassists on the map!
    (..as some MM owners can attest,..you got the gig because owned one and could work the sh#$%t out of it!..) All one has to do is just go back in time to ANY Era and listen to the significant Hits from Artists & Bands to feel Nostalgia then know that tone of the Stingray Bass!!..MADE the tunes come to life! Such as: “Sweetest Taboo” -Sade,...”Promises,Promises”-Naked Eyes,..
    ”Stomp!”-The Brothers Johnson,..”Kajagoo goo” & “Hang on now”-Kajagoo goo ...Red Hot Chilly Peppers,..Michael Jackson hits plus many more!! I own a Musicman Bongo Bass and it IS Killer as well! b(‘_ < )

  • @acidbass
    @acidbass 4 года назад +3

    I'm hugely surprised that a company like EB who hire many full time engineering 'specialists' took so long to correct the string/pole piece alignment on the G string, which has caused tonal balance issues with Rays since the beginning of time. The new modern Stingrays FINALLY address this issue after nearly 30 years.

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 2 года назад

      It was never that big of an issue in the first place

    • @pretendtobenormal8064
      @pretendtobenormal8064 2 года назад

      @@ileutur6863 Unless you bend string or apply vibrato.

  • @lockedowng
    @lockedowng 6 лет назад +4

    These new ones make me want to trade in my older stingray for it. Gotta wait on that Joe Dart signature though!

  • @tonymickens8803
    @tonymickens8803 3 года назад +2

    Thank You Louis Johnson, if it Weren't for You, Leo Never would have made the Music Man RIP Louis Johnson. @Rob Chapman

  • @Anonymouspangolin
    @Anonymouspangolin 6 лет назад

    Great editing rob, i thoroughly enjoyed the video. Must have been an amazing feeling being in that vault.

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 6 лет назад +4

    Handy tip for Stingray players who have an old school bridge with string mutes: Cut a thin strip from an eraser rubber (strip needs to be about 6.5cm long and 4mm wide) and place it under the strings between mute pads and strings close to the saddles. Twist each individual mute knob until the desired amount of pressure is applied to each string for a nice evenly muted tone. Done.
    Now you can whip a small piece of rubber in and out between songs to change sound quickly without a lot of fiddling about. Rubber strip is small enough to be stored in the space under the strings behind the bridge saddles when not in use. Sounds really good and thuddier than the original foam pads ;)

  • @EverendeverGroup
    @EverendeverGroup 2 года назад +4

    Worst thing about Ernie era Stingrays is the elimination of the string-thru-body design .

  • @jerryramosbass7913
    @jerryramosbass7913 2 года назад +2

    Awesome!!!! 👌 Some more bass episodes please...🙏 maybe the Ampeg AEB-1? Thanks and love your channel.🎼🎵🤟✌️💪

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 2 года назад +2

      MCA from Beastie Boys had one....def a nice boom stick...I want one identical to his green metallic one one day. For now, I love my mint green Stingray

  • @theoryofmine7473
    @theoryofmine7473 6 лет назад

    Cracking wee video. Really interesting. Thanks for putting it together.

  • @reisselpud
    @reisselpud 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you Rob !

  • @moratts182
    @moratts182 6 лет назад +2

    have you noticed that every new model they moved the pickup from (almost) 2cm from the bridge(the sound i love) to almost middle position?

  • @JayTheLane
    @JayTheLane 6 лет назад +2

    Digging the beardless Chappers. What a young looking handsome beast 🤣

  • @vincenzollamas
    @vincenzollamas 5 месяцев назад

    SOME tonal sacrifice, but hardly any. every other improvement is wonderful, and makes it the best playing bass i've ever played.

  • @byjuu246
    @byjuu246 2 года назад +1

    They need to recreate #1!!!!!!!!

  • @RandyWillcox
    @RandyWillcox 6 лет назад +2

    I love this company.

  • @HazardSports
    @HazardSports 6 лет назад

    Most excellent video Rob! And thanks for creating it! I dont know how I missed this gem but I found it because I am probably buying my first stingray this week! Neck-thru HH. Cant wait!

    • @TheEldorado1991
      @TheEldorado1991 5 лет назад

      Hey there, I actually had no idea they make these basses with neck-thru design! would you mind telling more about the particular EB Stingray model specifically that does that feature? :-)

  • @paulsummerside
    @paulsummerside 6 лет назад +6

    I miss my stingray bass :(
    regret having to sell it.

  • @malcelinho
    @malcelinho 6 лет назад +2

    Dave never fails to give me an earboner with his bass tone and playing

  • @keathdavid
    @keathdavid 2 года назад +2

    That edit at 11:33

  • @dartin9145
    @dartin9145 6 лет назад +11

    Rob can you do a vidoe about how you started playing the electric guitar and who inspired you in your journey.

    • @Kingsnax12
      @Kingsnax12 6 лет назад +1

      Dartin 914 this video exists

    • @Kingsnax12
      @Kingsnax12 6 лет назад

      Find it

    • @Kingsnax12
      @Kingsnax12 6 лет назад

      *Litost* man that’s too bad

  • @trev3050
    @trev3050 4 года назад +4

    17:42 he smacks the headstock off the light lol new Ernie ball stingray (slight relic)

    • @tbdmn83
      @tbdmn83 4 года назад

      "Road worn" model.

  • @ChipsA17
    @ChipsA17 4 года назад +2

    I can't afford one so i bought a sterling music man stingray ray34 ash black and its so amazing.

  • @drezy5337
    @drezy5337 6 лет назад +3

    Ok, I'm just gonna say it. Is it just me or does that red Stingray from the 80s sound awesome? I've always thought those late 80s Stingrays were the bomb! It's like having a pre Ernie Ball with some EB improvements.

    • @farrh6867
      @farrh6867 5 лет назад

      I have one and anyone that plays it, loves it. I bought it all beat up in the early 90's and it has been my main bass since. Also, Skip Goez rewound the pickup for me and it kills even harder.

  • @ShadamAran
    @ShadamAran 2 года назад

    I’m obsessed with those roasted maple necks. So much better than the classic yellowed wood look lol

  • @tonymickens8803
    @tonymickens8803 3 года назад

    Thank You Louis Johnson, if it Weren't for You, Leo Never would have made the Music Man RIP Louis Johnson.

  • @Charles-Robitaille
    @Charles-Robitaille 5 месяцев назад

    Bring back the old bridge!!!!!! Only that!!! The weight won't change that much if you bring it back. It's part of what made Stingrays.....Stingrays!!!!

  • @bredeker
    @bredeker 6 лет назад

    Dave is a legend.

  • @VmShpman82
    @VmShpman82 4 года назад

    Good to see they have pride in making a great product & not just another crappy muddy sounding bass.. Electronics means alot to them .

  • @MrWilson-WithaPbass
    @MrWilson-WithaPbass 6 лет назад

    My gosh ! so good ! best bass tone ever . "DAVE" !

  • @robertpurdy4452
    @robertpurdy4452 6 лет назад

    OMG! I want that '85 lefty StingRay!

  • @martinoshinsky5713
    @martinoshinsky5713 4 месяца назад

    Back in 1992 I played a Stingray for the first time, it was better than sex, also lasting more then 3 minutes. I was able to secure financing and took the bass home the next day. I believe the price around that time was $1,200. Last week I encountered a handful of new Stingray Specials at my local music store. Again, after picking up one of the basses, not even plugging it in, I had that same feeling that I was holding greatness in my hands. And of course, plugging it in just confirmed my suspicions. It took 32 years, but I finally purchased my second Stingray.

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA 6 лет назад

    Any video with Dave jamming, a a video I'll watch!

  • @theamateurfurry4735
    @theamateurfurry4735 5 лет назад +2

    I want that Axe bass. I bet it feels weird to play but sounds good!

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 2 года назад

      I bet Gene Simmons would love it......even though he sucks on bass lol...

  • @ericblasse6335
    @ericblasse6335 6 лет назад +3

    Rob u have 666k subscribers, that is so metal

  • @tippydripbumskeetr1745
    @tippydripbumskeetr1745 6 лет назад

    not an ernie ball fan - sorry but out of my price range..... but they have excelled at making bass a huge product - so mad props peoples, the look and sound great !!!! even if affordable im a single man band - to spend that money, it would be not in the budget.... besides , i happened to have found 2 somewhat vintage bass's that just happened to have great necks and handle flat wound strings well . but 1 up for ball bass's !!!!!!!

  • @juggy666
    @juggy666 4 года назад +2

    Some of the demos are too fast for my
    Iking and it can be hard to hear the Bass tone for the 'demo' noise.

  • @hetschhog
    @hetschhog 6 лет назад

    Thanks so much for this!

  • @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
    @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 6 лет назад +8

    My parents gave me a Sting Ray for my 18th birthday. It served me well for 10 years, until one particular bandmate's particularly rumbly vehicle vibrated the guitar to the point of breaking all the solder connections. At the time, I didn't know anyone who did soldering, so I was forced to retire it. The 10 years I spent with that Sting Ray are what made me so picky about the neck MUST be satin, and why I only ever use bridge pickups.

    • @mouthmw
      @mouthmw 6 лет назад

      I bet it was an easy fix though, and most likely, it was just the battery box connection.

    • @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
      @ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 6 лет назад +1

      I should ask. That said, when I did finally find a guy who does soldering for a living, I had him completely re-solder the electronics.

  • @marcusstirling1385
    @marcusstirling1385 6 лет назад

    Hi Rob. Have you thought about putting the top and finish from Dave's Sig basses on a 6 or 7 string as it is a stunning finish

  • @whamni
    @whamni 3 года назад +2

    I have a 79' from new and in its lifetime it has had three necks, first two had truss rod problems and the last and present neck developed sideways twist, so it hangs on the wall now, not because I don't like it, but simply MM stopped doing spares for their early instruments, bad PR work don't you think?

    PS If you have a spare neck in that store to fit my 79' Stingray I'll take it thankyou.

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 2 года назад

      You do realize a luthier could repair those issues?

    • @wolfnik7410
      @wolfnik7410 Год назад

      Would you sell pickups.?

    • @whamni
      @whamni Год назад

      @@wolfnik7410 lol you obviously know the best parts lol .
      If I was selling, it would be the complete bass at the going rate.

  • @billyscranner6813
    @billyscranner6813 6 лет назад +26

    Dave.

  • @KaijuAlert
    @KaijuAlert 6 лет назад

    Interesting to see they didn't mention a fix for the famous Stingray deadspots.

  • @babayaga1767
    @babayaga1767 4 года назад

    the difference between MM and other "active" basses is that the pickup is not active on a MM, it just has a preamp in front.

  • @Bigscott4130
    @Bigscott4130 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the low end love. And is this the first vid that Dave wasnt shown to "Dave" the world?

  • @malcolmmacdonald4745
    @malcolmmacdonald4745 11 месяцев назад

    A question I would ask is, "How does EB MM maintain the high quality of craftsmanship and finished product, right down to perfect setup of every instrument that leaves their factory. I don't think any other company can compete with EB MM at that level. ... And personally, they Stingray Specials are the highest example of that quality craftsmanship. ... I can achieve that with my personal basses but these guys do it with every bass. ... But, personally, every bass pretty well sounds the same slapped.

  • @hansensor
    @hansensor 6 лет назад

    Rob-What is up with the custom Music Man guitars? Just curious, I'm sure we will see them when possible.

  • @babayaga1767
    @babayaga1767 4 года назад

    i have pre ernie ball's and ernie balls, the pre, like the no. 1, sound more like an in your face P bass. the ernie ball is more well, ernie ball sounding. not a bad thing just different from the leo fender design. i love them both

  • @joegordon7196
    @joegordon7196 5 лет назад

    The bass he said was #1 had 3 band eq.I didn’t think that came along till much later 🤔

  • @tonyaguilar2401
    @tonyaguilar2401 6 лет назад

    Please do a lesson video on catalyst I want to know how to play it

  • @alanscharrer5255
    @alanscharrer5255 6 лет назад

    I would like to know given the electronics, how is this different from the Bongo?

  • @robustduck
    @robustduck 4 года назад

    Sell me that lefty Stingray from 1985! Yes please!

  • @ChrisArmstrong1310
    @ChrisArmstrong1310 6 лет назад +2

    Dave has some stonking chops. Why don’t we see more of Dave on RUclips?

  • @joesified
    @joesified 11 месяцев назад

    Seems like the dude interviewing gave more info than the actual EB employees 😂

  • @raaftar_godoz9802
    @raaftar_godoz9802 4 года назад

    Please suggest music man bass within 500-600 dollar? Stingray model

  • @FloBass
    @FloBass 6 лет назад

    Who in their right mind drops a thumbs down on this video? Banger video, Chappers!

  • @Queen4Life483
    @Queen4Life483 6 лет назад

    Tour Dave.

  • @rodrigofernandez5825
    @rodrigofernandez5825 6 лет назад

    "Yep"
    -Dave.

  • @VmShpman82
    @VmShpman82 4 года назад

    The axe one looks like a Gene Simons bass. ( Kiss)

  • @alanscharrer5255
    @alanscharrer5255 6 лет назад

    Hollingsworth=Bass GOD

  • @blur1355
    @blur1355 6 лет назад +2

    but, does it djent?

  • @nickbrown322
    @nickbrown322 6 лет назад +2

    13:16 if you know you know ;)

  • @richardkelley8415
    @richardkelley8415 5 лет назад +2

    Ernie ball music man stingray basses rule.

  • @garyheighway7635
    @garyheighway7635 6 лет назад

    Love it with 2 pickups

  • @yungkreb8309
    @yungkreb8309 6 лет назад +2

    Bass

  • @raaftar_godoz9802
    @raaftar_godoz9802 4 года назад

    Cost of this guitar?

  • @lieut89
    @lieut89 6 лет назад

    In for 500!

  • @lovecchio420
    @lovecchio420 6 лет назад +3

    Dave's not here man.

  • @blkjakk
    @blkjakk 6 лет назад +2

    And supposedly the new Stringray is built entirely by computers.

  • @isaacayala7577
    @isaacayala7577 3 года назад

    Who knew Conan was good at bass

  • @crankjazz
    @crankjazz 6 лет назад +2

    Is it possible to play a Stingray without slapping it? ;-)

  • @josephalvaro5244
    @josephalvaro5244 11 месяцев назад

    #1 with 4 knobs,a 4 bolt neck and not a string through body? Obviously not a '76 B00 bass.#1 Ernie Ball MM 3 band Stingray I guess.

  • @VenzGF
    @VenzGF 6 лет назад +2

    DAVE.

  • @pCeLobster
    @pCeLobster 6 лет назад

    5:19 what a meme.

  • @RicMill-f2w
    @RicMill-f2w 3 месяца назад

    Rob should keep quiet and let the designer talk since they are the experts.

  • @OthiOthi
    @OthiOthi 6 лет назад

    666k subs.
    Oh.

  • @triconte4418
    @triconte4418 3 года назад

    Bajazo

  • @andwelovearpsychopat7820
    @andwelovearpsychopat7820 5 лет назад

    So that were Gary glitter is now days hahaha

  • @zazz63
    @zazz63 Год назад

    but after all this people still pay way more dollar for pre eb stingrays...its like saying eb screwed up the magic.

  • @ryanspencerlauderdale687
    @ryanspencerlauderdale687 3 года назад

    It’s so funky and it’s low volume. Come on.

  • @darkySp
    @darkySp 4 года назад

    Man, this neck is thicc

  • @_Only_Zuul
    @_Only_Zuul 2 года назад

    i think there are better basses for the price of a top MM stingray

  • @harrymanback5133
    @harrymanback5133 6 лет назад

    I'm really not a fan of the stingray, the sound is nice but it's so uncomfortable IMO

    • @harrymanback5133
      @harrymanback5133 6 лет назад

      Still very interesting video

    • @kidcoastless8575
      @kidcoastless8575 6 лет назад +2

      I've never played one, so I can't speak for comfortability, but I just can't help but hate the look of it. I love the sound, but they just look uninspiring to me XD who knows though, maybe I'll get my hand on one and all of a sudden be blown away

  • @samiegfunk1
    @samiegfunk1 6 лет назад

    Can you just lay a groove not solo when you demo