Note: Sorry about the audio quality on this video. We moved into our new office at the start of this week and we haven't yet had the chance to properly set up the audio equipment & soundproof. We'll be working on it and it should be back up to standard in the coming days - Jack
Take all the time you need, we'll wait. You all keep us informed, and provide goood insight all in an unbiased way. I'm certain that all other viewers share the same sentiment, and are all eternally thankful :)
Great video, thanks! Just an editing thing - I think it would be better if you didn’t hide text behind the images. Just put the text further into the top left corner and image into the bottom right.
@@tomasbeltran04050 they didn't the conservatives probably hired a personal investigator to dig up some dirt on him. They probably don't do this as much during the general election since there are way too many MPs to do it to. This dude was on his own, out of the heard.
@@mojo331 Honestly I think we're all sinners as far as social media goes. Also don't think this had too much of an impact on Labour, since the other factors alone would've been enough to crush the party a the election
"The voters let us down badly" was a Labour MP quote I heard the other day. There you have it in a nutshell - they blame the voters for their position, rather than shifting their policies to suit the changing attitudes.
@@jeremysmith8035 They'll very figure it out, the BBC has had its wings clipped and GBNews will pump out propaganda 24/7 These people could make the right decision even before all that
So you've still got ya heed in the sand ?!?!?! The facts are totally reet and you obviously not heard what the owld timers were saying when questioned about voting 4 the country's enemy the Tory party ? Thick is as thick does they took the bait hook line and sinker !!!!
From the pie charts it looked like the change in absolute votes was mostly down to a significantly lower turnout and the upswing in conn votes was from the prior Brexit votes. This meant that labour had many fewer votes but the proportions didn't change very much.
@@parastroika2393 thanking video creators if you like the content is very common on youtube, just like in real life. Very strange that you don't understand the basic concept of thanking others.
It’s ever since the Lib Dem’s had a coalition with the Tories and agreed to the current university fees system. Student switched to Labour, then the woke middle class. Labour pandered to them, it’s backfired. No one likes guardian readers, even themselves.
@DEx Stev he literally was not anti semetic you really should do some actual research. Corbyn would have been the best prime minister this country has had since Attlee
This horrific showing from Starmer's Labour should hopefully be enough to get them to look hard at everything they've done over the last 18 months and conclude it's all somehow Corbyn's fault.
what has happened since corbyn left is starmer's fault. what happened before corbyn left was corbyn's fault. both of them are hot garbage lol, the party is dying and people are fleeing to the conservative party and the green party.
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In 2017, the Tories got 14,319 votes in Hartlepool. In 2021, they got 15,529. In 2017, Corbyn's Labour got 21,969 votes. In 2021 under Starmer, they got 8,589. So I doubt it was conservatives showing better.
In 2017, Corbyns labour were still talking redistributive policies, Tory corruption, and class and relative inequality issues... They went on to show their true priorities over the next three years. Britain rejected those priorities, we aren't a country of identity obsessed socialists. When you spend two years saying you're concerned with working class issues then literally oppose a working class decision for the next three years... You can blame wet flannel starmer all you like, but the rest of the UK know it's just cope, the quicker you realise the real issue is with the behaviour of leftists the quicker the left get back in contention.
Turn out in by-elections are always lower. The "Labour voters didn't turn up." Is quite false, I think. Turn out fell 15%. Last by-election anywhere? Went down 17%. Why not benchmarking vs 2019? Surely that is the correct thing to do?
More than feels, it is. Champagne socialists, limousine liberals, Starbucks Marxists. Labour supporters are one of its biggest problems, the air of superiority. I think it’s fantastic, all anyone who needs to do to sabotage Labour is give it a megaphone.
@@gamriii I don’t know, Labour has a pretty bad image problem. I can’t see a way out though, anything populist coming from Labour would be seen as Blairite. This can’t go on though, a one party system is terrible for the country. Any hair brained idea will be called “the will of the people”. It’s not the will of the people, most don’t vote for they vote against. This time it was against Labour. Similar thing in the US, not many voted for Biden. They voted against Trump. Anyone but x, y, z normally ends up badly though.
Forget Remain or Leave. The Tory constituencies are nice and leafy. The folks in Hartlepool want to be Woodlesford By The Sea not West Bowling By The Sea.
Only where they have recently won a Tory MP, don't you watch the news ffs ! It was dissected an analysed and proven correct. Only Tory held marginals get financial aid. Tis is NOT made up ! and I am not a Labour voter before you ask[or accuse] You need to stop reading the newspapers pal
@@shanjanusman9974 Exactly this - I've moved around quite a lot around the country and have lived in both Labour and Conservative councils. The Conservative councils are far better run usually with more regular bin collections and street cleaning, better policing, better organization of roadworks and all for less council tax! I'm not entirely sure why the Labour councils do so badly, but they generally employ far more people working under them so it could just be a case of inefficiency.
I think there are two main reason why labour lost that seat, one is the fact people don’t know what keir starmer stands for, the second is that awful video of him and that pub owner. He could of handle the situation so much better as everyone is angry with how things have gone, and then his security stepped out of line and I shall say no more, all this before an election and in front of the media.
Labour lost it when they started to go Woke. Woke is detested by the working class as pompous Marxist virtue signalling, anti-British Culture, Identity Politics which creates divisions in society.
5:44 You made an error with "Hendon in Sunderland" there - I thought it was a slip of tongue, but the video says Sunderland and shows a map of London LOL
They really were talking about Hendon (ward) in Sunderland. I have no idea how they took the map of London with Hendon (constituency - much larger than a ward which is held by conservatives btw). They probably don’t live in London or anywhere close. It’s a very famous shape and you can clearly see the Thames flowing east into the North Sea
Don't worry tldr seems to have terrible standard's when it come too proofreading and reviewing produced videos nearly every video has errors in them that could be been caught before release
I'd heard of Starmer doing things. I don't think he took a vow of silence so much as Labour has been focused completely inward from what I can tell since 2019. They do their job in Parliament and outside of that it seems to just be how do we hold the Party together. The only reason that's not been a major issue for Conservatives is their jobs hinge more upon Party unity right now and they're doing quite well electorally. Of course none of these things really matter in the end. The public is going to do whatever it's going to do and it often won't make any sense. Not to mention media will heavily favour Conservatives the whole world over so regardless those candidates will always get a coverage boost. And it doesn't help that a Conservative can be accused of just about anything and it won't bother their voters, but anyone from any other Party has to actually live up to a sense of acceptable morality or else they'll get the boot. A Conservative could commit vehicular manslaughter and win re-election (they've actually even legalized this in some US States) but if a leftist politician has an unpaid speeding ticket their career is toast. Unless they're a major politician of course. Party leaders get away with a lot no matter what Party they lead for example.
@@wile123456 thanks, I did watch the video and Fyi KS initially made the 'I take responsibility' speech before the Thursday election, knowing how bad it's going to be for the Labour party.
@@wile123456 just because "he takes responsibility" doesn't mean anything will actually change. Labour have gone down hill a lot over the last 3 or 4 years and just can't keep up. KS is not well liked and doesn't come across as a strong leader
If you don’t think that corbynite shift from policies aimed at the working class majority to policies and narratives aimed at intersectional middle class identity politics types and students isn’t the reason for the death of the Labour Party, then you’re as out of touch with the working man as he is. As long as they push any narrative about systemic oppression or other woke talking points, they will not have the working class vote.
Quite simply: the Tories can appeal to the widest group of people. For rural voters, they can put on the appeal of being backswoodsmen, for northern voters they can put on the appeal of being populists and enacting renationalisation, and for the south they can put on the mask of being thatcherites, and for everyone they give a simple, popular, patriotic message. Labour, for better or for worse, has ceased to be a broad church, and hence is doomed to fail to the infinitely more flexible Tories.
I mean, that's just saying that lying and cheating works. The problem isn't that labor isn't doing that, the problem is a lack of accountability on the Tory side.
@@drsnova7313 no, quite the opposite. By and large, the Tories are doing what they say in these areas: slow renationalisation of the railways in the north, renationalisation of the airports in the north, but more privatisation in the south, and more subsidies in rural England. What I’m saying is that PRAGMATISM works. It’s always been that way in British politics: Labour could learn a thing or two
Scots have not voted Tory majority for 70 years . Scots get outvoted 11/1 by English voters. Welsh 20/1 N Irish 24/1 . Explain how this is a union of equals ? or are some people more equal than others ?
@@pablosaintmarr3223 It's not a union of equals. If it was then England would have MORE votes as the other regions are very overrepresented in Westminster.
I'd love to know why you think that. Personally I joined Labour after the 2019 election and voted for Starmer (would still now as RLB and Nandy I don't think would've changed much compared to Starmer). I personally feel they represent working people who want a fair society. I don't understand the logic of voting Conservative if you're working class. To me, it's like a Turkey voting for Christmas but then I appreciate I'm biased hence I'd love to know more than the usual cliche "don't know what labour is" or "labour isn't for the working class".
@@akashr9 I think it is because, at least in how its understood by normal people, labour is more centred on a certain type of middle class 'intellectual' base in London and some other cities and on students and ethnic minorities. While policy decisions might not obviously show that, the dialogue that comes from labour people does over the last few years and the momentum crowd are more that way inclined. Nationalisation of things also seems quite meaningless to a lot of people
@@TimRosenburg definitely think the message needs to change on that. Also the in-fighting needs to stop from the Left of the party. If the party was unified more and the policies were clearer, they'd have a better chance. Also getting over the hurdle of the UK Media is a tough job for Labour
@@akashr9 appreciate the response. I think labour still is for working class but I don’t think they are in touch with the who the working class is anymore, at least a good portion of it. People are more selfish now because of the personal difficulties they have. Not everyone has the luxury to consider the collective good. I didn’t hear labour talk about what they were going to do that would personally effect the working class(please correct me I am wrong, I may missed it). I don’t even remember them saying a proper number on what they would raise Nurses wages by. I am working class and cannot see myself ever voting for tories because of the privatisation but I don’t see any substantial action from labour on anything. All this may seem a bit vague because it kind of is. These things just caused me to doubt labour a lot. The one thing that really made me lose sight of what labour is, is when Starmer didn’t call out the health secretary on the corruption case. I believe starmer said something along the lines of this isn’t the time, but jumped on Boris for the texts. Ethics, honesty and integrity mean a lot to me. I can’t accept someone who was the head of CPS not going hard on all corruption.
@@silverhawk923 thanks. It's a strange time, I agree he should've gone more attacking on corruption allegations. I was listening to David Lammy and he said its the risk of defamation calling it "corruption" for them. I do think they should've done it anyway because we all know the Tories and the media would've said that if it was reversed. I think after this a full policy list needs to be released out and really hit home. I agree some of the old policies may cut through but the ones saying that the 2019 manifesto was perfect are deluded. The party needs to come more to the centre as he's doing but I think centre left - centre is ideal for electability given we aren't gonna go from the right to left in one go. I do hope things change because honestly it's baffling people thinking Boris is change when they've been in power for 11 years
Doesn't matter who is in charge if you don't have a vision or stance on anything. Sitting on the border on every major decision. Labour are moving further and further far left leaving behind there core voters like me. Its sad to say but Labour are now a far left progressive activist group. Thats why they are losing supports like me and until they change course and get back to there core purpose. The working class. Then I fear they will not even be a opposition force in a few years
@@willtruthteller4694 how can they be far left without taking a stance? Seems like being far left would require taking radical stances? The leader's job is to set the direction, if the party lacks a clear position and vision that's on the leader.
@@QXDme the party needs to be united so the leader can offer those positions and policies. When a leader sits on the fence it shows that the party is in turmoil over that policy or stance. If your a leader should goes against the majority of its members they will vote no confidence. Sitting on the wall avoids that from happening. And unfortunately Labour have sat on the wall for so long they are now fat. Doesn't matter if the leader has a vision if the members don't agree he can't put that vision across. Which just goes to show how divided they are with left and right ideologies.
Don't worry the economy is going to collapse. Collapse currency, Rampant inflation and those on fixed incomes in poverty. Will have to be some kind of coup or government of national unity
When I tried to find the pub video I played a clip without the bodyguard incident, the pub owner was just throwing misinformation (masks don't work, let old people die, etc) at him and people in the comments were applauding him. I'm happy to hear that most people are siding with him because of some bodyguard issue, made me lose hope in England that people would applaud such a loonie otherwise.
I want to thank the ardent remainers who run this channel for giving us unbiased information. That's super hard to do. Many thanks for putting in the effort. It has helped me get the information I need much more quickly.
I would genuinely vote for an Attleean Labour: patriotic, socially conservative, anti-American, socialist. But it seems labour will have to stay in the political doldrums until they realise that’s what the vast majority of their old base want.
@@onecertainesquire486 Attlee was hardly socially conservative. He oversaw the dismantling of the british empire and in his final years advocated for the decriminilasation of homosexuality
I'm happy that he is bitterly disappointed. He needs to get off his knees and actually spend time around his parties base, instead of with the middle class student types .
It's too late for Starmer.. he blew his chances to lead Labour to anything as soon as the nation saw him bend the knee to the barbarians of BLM, who are sworn enemies of Western civilisation by their own words. Anyone who agitates against great heroes like Winston Churchill or tries to suggest that the British should feel any shame for past involvement in the slave trade despite being the primary world power responsible for an expensive decades-long war against it using the Royal Navy's control of the seas (which UK taxpayers only just paid off in the 21st century), deserves the drubbing they will get at the ballot box, to say nothing of the Left's marriage of convenience with Islamists, woke doomsday cultists, and their disloyalty to our national flag, traditions and superior Western values in favour of hardcore socialist wealth confiscation from those who do all the work, and unaccountable proto-fascist systems of unaccountable governance like the EU.
@@Centurion97 no thank you, I prefer to stay healthy with a sensible lifestyle without having my immune system sabotaged by any meds or pumping my veins full of experimental crap.
When Corbyn was leader, I felt as though Labour had a leader that could actually coral support. I felt like there was an identity and even if his policies were on cases extreme, he came across as somebody that had worked his way up without the silver spoon and someone whose social care policies I could get on board with. Under Keir, Labour just feels like a soulless abyss.
This reminded me of the most recent New Zealand election where the incumbent Labour government was re-elected in a landslide. From the POV of a non-Brit, this seems more like a Tory success rather than a Labour failure. The voters, fairly or not, credit the incumbent government for the COVID recovery and vaccine rollout (It doesn’t matter as long as the gov is perceived as competent and successful). My evidence? Look at Wales. The incumbent Labour there picked up seats in the devolved assembly even though they were predicted to lose.
Expect it to shrink soon , now they themselves with their Brexit vote have more or less closed the car plant which employs 6000 directly and 70'000 indirectly.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 If RNM leaves we will always find a way to survive. We lost MG Rover under Labour and even when EU membership was secure and solid at the time.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 Boris Johnson provided a bribe to keep the Nissan plant open. So not this year. Next he can blame it on something other than Brexit.
As a former Labour voter, I rest my vote. Labour MP’s continually spout their personal and single track, one topic narrative and listen to no other view or discourse. Diane Abbott the worst of the worst. Starmer will never be our Prime Minister. He is a vague and as non committal as Corbyn. The Remainer MPs of all the political parties but particularly Labour, will reap the condemnation of the Leave supporters. Not for reasons of a voting difference on EU but because of their derogatory and often blatant pee take of Brexit itself, it’s voters and their scaremongering and name calling. We will never forget the subliminal bullying and mockery metered out by MP’s The European Council and the MSM in particular the BBC and Sky. Above all Starmer will be remembered for his condescending and wholly unprofessional remark to Rob the Barman (quote). “ I don’t need a lecture from you” (unquote). Seems Starmer did need that lecture after all. Good riddance Starmer it’s just a matter of months.
However as a non Labour voter, it's interesting to know what make the tories so appealing? Like the misappropriation of funds to their friends and over 100k covid deaths, what would it take for Boris to get the message that crony politics isn't required. I am not a Labour voter as I am not English, and if I was I would not support Labour as for some of the points you made. They can't make up their mind on anything, but when is enough of BJ and his utter contentment for the British people. So far he gets away with whatever he can? Which is everything!
The problem is that the country is falling to right wing populism - people are voting conservative in the face of problems caused by the Conservative party. It also doesn’t help that a lot of ballots have 3 left leaning parties against the one right - Labour either need to embrace the LDs and Greens or clearly distinguish themselves before all 3 get steamrollered by the fairly well-united right. Might be wrong but it’s what it looks like to me.
Riddle me this. If right-wing is populism (popular policies which the majority want); What the hell is left-wing? The opposite? The Left trying to sell paternalism is like Linda McCartney selling steak
@@noblenaveragemanointernet2582 Oh I found quite a few people arguing, ranging from Corbynites (I probably butchered that spelling) and right wingers who hate everything about labour. So I would say TLDR news is pretty unbiased even if I do think that it leans slightly left but it's a good news source.
I stopped voting labour in 2020, but then again for the first time I never voted either. There IS NOT a viable party worth voting for & British political system is outdated and broken. Labour has lost its way' and not sure it will find its' way back anytime soon..
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If you were to read Twitter over the last few days and saw what was trending you think Labour would have stormed to victory given the levels of left wing activism! Now although I do vote Tory I do recognise the benefit of having a credible opposition, Labour really needs to get it's house in order as Britain in now effectively a one party state.
@@barnbersonol You assume that he wasn't using the apostrophe as a contraction...such as for example of "videographic presentations". You see, there is always a bigger pedant.
The conservatives have to be very careful not to rest on their laurels. They have to maintain their commitments to leveling up and continue to speak to ordinary citizens.
@@rockangel1603 you can easily pick out the real snowflakes nowadays because they’re on the left and they go around calling others snowflakes (2016 wants its word back btw) as a defence mechanism.
There’s no such thing as ‘British’ politics anymore. Obviously you’ve got the SNP in Scotland, Labour collapsing in England while in Wales they’ve just equalled their best ever Senedd result
It’s worth noting that across the uk progressive Labour councillors have outperformed the party across the board this clearly shows the direction the party should go.
The strange thing is that it is easier for the Conservatives to move to the left Economically than for Labour to move to the right on social issues. Given that most working class people are Economically left but socialy right labour just cannot win!
They could try focusing on economically populist issues while shifting on Brexit outside remain constituencies and turn down the socially left wing rhetoric. If they can get someone seen as moderate to do that while backing off some of Corybn's proposals that seem more radical like nationalisation of key services then perhaps they can appeal to both sides but they would need a campaigner as skilled as Blair but without the baggage and more economically left wing to achieve that. Or for there to be a massive scandal big enough to kill the conservatives momentum which seems unlikely.
@@silverdeathgamer2907 They cant attract tory voters no matter how far right they move because tory voters are already happy with the tories. Its like if the conservatives tried to win over hard left voters with a socialist leader. Why would they do that when the party trying to win them over has a long history of not caring about their interests and the party they voted for, for several years is the same party they've always been.
I think the problem labour had was an identity one, in the last election the Tories and brexit party combined won a majority, but because of the split vote labour one. Hartlepool was a very pro brexit area, and labour just wasn't appealing to brexiteers. It will be interesting to see what happens next, whether labour splits, or hard left labour move support to other parties like the greens and the lib Dems
@@sw9618 yep agreed, I meant lib dem as they are a *very* pro EU party and are the third biggest party in England (debatable). But I don't know, and if the split occurs it is probably the greens who hard left labour will migrate to
Feel like this isn't being talked about more. I really feel like the Greens will become the opposition party if Labour keep going at the rate they are going
I'm letting my Labour membership go. We went from a leader with no charisma or enthusiasm, but some interesting policies who did perfectly fine other than on Brexit, which was his downfall (Corbyn). We then decided that the policies were the issue. And now, here we are, with some guy most of the population has no idea who he is, what he stands for, or how he would improve their lives in any way. He'll lose the next general election and I think we need a speaker and an orator as the next leader. Maybe a tiny bit of a lefty. People aren't excited by Keir, and we need people to be engaged again. Keir is not the man to do that. He'll get my vote. But it's not like I'm happy about it. No policies, no excitement, no real opposition.
@@dankit2548 the greens are a joke too obsessed with pleasing the champagne socialists of the middle class the chances of the Green Party doing anything useful are about the same as tony Blair not being a war criminal
It seems like the Brexit issue has completely hobbled the party. It split their base down the middle and now they have no clue what they want to be. With Scotland possibly splitting off, barring a huge scandal within the Tories or an enormous economic downturn, it looks like Labour's doomed to being a minority party for many years.
Good points. Why do you think that didn't happen to the Tory party? Over a third of Conservative 2015 voters voted remain. But most of those didn't leave in 17 and 19. I don't know the answer. Maybe they were "remain, but not that important". So economics out weighted the EU as an issue for them?
@@ninamimi6622 what "scandals" has the Tory party had? Giving contracts to freinds? Name one political entity throughout the entire of political history that hasn't done that. Boris' flat refurb? No-one gives a shit
@@darrellbruh1335 couldn’t agree more, it’s either the become a joe Biden, Kamala Harris type party or they stay centre like they were initially founded to be
If they stopped doing that, they'd just be shifting further right, and betraying their voter base more they already have. You'd become just as cucked as the Democrats and that's a bad thing
Ur right about the Hartlepool reasons as Labour only fluked 2019 because the Brexit party split the right wing vote. Not only that, but they failed to get anyone who was on Hartlepool's side. It went all sorts of wrong and while it was inevitable, you can see that they absolutely did not appeal to the Brexit voters and need to shift that if they want their seats back. As a Labour voter, I can understand why Hartlepool was frustrated and this was the final nail in the coffin
Hartlepool also voted over 50% for Labour in 2017. The split Brexit vote obviously helped, but the 2017 result shows that this kind of massive decline wasn't inevitable.
@@TheYopogo that's true but this seemed to have been under the condition that corbyn was planning to do something with Brexit and support the north. This is a town that voted heavily for brexit and their support for Labour plummeted with the second referendum plans and you can see this in the massive percentage drop from 2017 to 2019. The town has been struggling for the last decade for many reasons as well.
@@TackleTackleHeadbutt That's certainly part of it, but there's enough things which don't fit into the picture that there must be other factors at play too. For instance, 2019 got Labour significantly more votes than both this result and the 2015 election under Miliband, even though Brexit isn't on the agenda in 2015 or 2021. Leaving aside the consolidated Tory-Brexit Party vote, Between 2019 and 2021 Labour's own vote went down a massive 9%. So it can't just be Brexit; Starmer specifically is doing something very wrong.
The problem with the by election is Hartlepool is that Labour still controls many similar White working class seats like that, which are trending Conservative. It means they have more room to fall, which seems impossible given how low they already are. Without attracting White working class voters, Labour can never win a national election again. There aren't enough BAME people and middle-class people in the cities to compensate for this loss.
@@jonizymberi6787 This idea of precarious diverse workers in care sectors and low paid work in cities, and "the white working class" being two separate groups is just wrong, and so is the idea that living in a city makes you middle class, and that towns in the north don't have loads of middle class people. There's massive overlap, and lots of people in between. Most white people in places like London are also working class, and there and middle class people in the North. That said, it's very true. Places like Hartlepool have been trending away from Labour for a long time; but the idea that its inevitable is just wrong. It's a result of the political choices Labour's leadership are taking. Again, Labour gained a huge number of votes in Hartlepool in 2017 at the same time as gaining a huge number of votes in London. Labour could feasibly put this coalition together and win, long term decline is not inevitable, but they need to get their act together.
Jeez, just over a year ago the Tories were on top of the world, now look at them, its like night and day. in any case, the Tories have until 2025 to turn it around.
@@Teasehirt no it isn't. There are so many factors to consider, wokeness doesn't even come into the consideration for most people, unless youre a prat.
@@Teasehirt that's pretty much the point I'm trying to get across to you... If you get out more, you'll see this wokeness concern you have exists nowhere in reality, only in your own mind, the internet,and newspaper opinion pieces. 'Wokeness' has no actual impact on you or me at all, but you give it such massive weight when voting. What actual problems has wokeness caused you? Please enlighten me.
In 2015 Ukip played a similar role that the Brexit party played in 2019. Difference is that in 2017 Labour won over half of the collapsed Ukip vote and in 2021 Labour got hardly any of the collapsed Brexit party vote
I agree with the Keir in that interview, Labour has been bickering amongst themselves for years now so it's unsurprising that the public wouldn't trust them to organise a piss up in a brewery.
Unlike the Tory party which has been a beacon of stability and consensus. It's all bollox, the Tories are winning in England because many people in England like Boris and they don't particularly like Kier, they don't hate him like they did Corbyn but he's just meh where as Boris as right lad. Labour need a charismatic leader that people like, that's the only way they will ever win. That's the only way anyone ever wins elections now.
Keir has not been able to form an effective unifying narrative though, his entire platform up until now has been "i am electable". I have a lot of opinions on Blair, but he got elected because he represented fundamental change, to a smaller extent the same happened in 2017. If labour doesn't end these internal squabbles, and starting unifying around a platform, this wont change.
"Labour has been bickering amongst themselves for years now" He's been actively purging the party of left-wingers, so he created most of that "bickering".
@@archvaldor yeah the bickering is mostly self sabotaging right wingers in labour conspiring against the "woke stazi" of Momentum (even though momentums policies have been nore popular among labour voters). if you dig into it, it was largely right wing insiders that sabotaged Corbyn and turned him into this fictional anti semetic boogeyman. The man was on old jam making granddad who had been pretty consistent in his politics since he got into it and the character assassination on him was pretty thorough.
Weirdly, while we're used to our honours system being utterly corrupt, Starmer's was for actually helping the disadvantaged. Look into it, rather than dismiss it offhand.
Its worth considering for Hartlepool the collapse of the Labour vote, the Tory vote was almost identical to Labour 2019, but Labour's vote was halved. I don't think there's a shift to the right, more that there's not a left party to vote for/feel inspired by.
I think the Tories need to be careful, as a Scottish person who doesn't like the Tories the more power they get the more I support independence. And it's pretty clear when you look to Scotland that we've rejected the Tories as they've only achieved 20% of the constituency vote across Scotland.
@@Ueiksg there's going to be a large pro independence majority in holyrood (bigger than before) and that's not going to back down, there's almost certain to be a referendum on the issue within this decade and if the Tories keep soaking up power in England then independence is going to win it
‘The tories need to be careful’ what so your saying that the tories need to kamikaze their support for the sake of the Scots 🙄 Scotland consist of 5 million people compared to the rest of the uk that’s nothing Scotland really isn’t as important as you lot like to make out, no offence
@@chs2618 yea I'm aware Scotland is small compared to England, but Scotland leaving the union would send a message to NI and Wales and they would probably both leave as well. This is not what many people in England want and it's certainly not what the Tories want, I'm not saying they should kamikaze their support because that would be stupid but rather than trying to soak up power they should use the power they have to prevent Scotland from wanting to leave not just saying no because democracy will have its way. What Boris needs to do is make the union a place that Scots (like myself) would be proud to be part of, not annoyed about how it works.
And Corbyn isn't fit to operate a hot dog stand. Let's not forget the only reason Labour held on to his seat was the Brexit Party splitting the over 50% anti Labour vote.
Problem with that is even in Wales Labour, while still winning elections, have been losing ground. You have to remember much of Wales has supported Labour since Labour as a Party was raised. I am a Valleys boy, and the Valleys have essentially voted Labour, and nothing but Labour, for a *century*. Yet even in the Valleys they are losing numbers. They still retain enough ofa majority to win the elections, but they have lost points even in Labour areas as unflinchingly loyal as the Welsh Valleys. Of course, this may be down to some local issues, the widening of the Heads of the Valleys road for example, something that has been required for rejuvanation of the Valleys for decades, was not payed for by either the British or the Welsh Governments, but by the EU... Ironically enough. People in the Valleys are starting to realise that the Tories will not offer to spend in the Valleys because they are so staunchly Labour, and Labour will not spend in the Valleys because they literally have not lost an election there in a hundred years..... So no point in them doing so... Why, after all, spend money in seats so safe?
Not only that, they went woke, backed pulling down statues, have pinned their party to identity politics etc Yet their core vote disagree with most of this..
Well the Brexit party was apparently there for people who previously voted Labour but could not bring themselves to vote conservatives. I am not convinced it split the conservative vote. I would like to see result of the previous election, to see whether the conservative’s vote grew or stayed the same I doubt that it did not grow.
@@hansfromcongo6322 In the 2017 GE, Labour won with 52.5% of the vote versus the Tories 34.2%. So you are right. Though I guess it didnt take all that long for people that "could not bring themselves to vote conservatives" to all of a sudden vote them.
If people in this comment section are still baffled and scratching their heads about both the Brexit result of 2016, and why huge swathes of the working class have turned against Labour, I'm not sure what to tell you. You must live in some strange bubble universe and have never actually met or talked to the average British man in the street. Hard to believe.
At this point the parties need to stop focusing on brexit and start focusing on after the pandemic. Brexits done and the deal is done. However you feel about it is irrelevant right now. Its in the past and bringing it up over and over (especially for Labour) will just hurt their chances. I myself am a remainer but at this point i couldnt give less of a shit about Brexit. There are bigger issues to worry about
I think you missed 1 issue that in my experience since moving back to UK has a huge importance to people. The labor candidate (who is a Dr no less) apparently supported shutting down their local hospitals A&E/ER. I am concerned about Labor, they just seem lost and the sooner they can finally move on from Brexit the better. I voted remain but I accepted the result, country will be fine out of EU and it’s long past time to start making the future better for the course the voters chose which was out of EU. Honestly it’s been 3 elections since I voted labor, but I’m not opposed to them but they need to come up with policies that help not just the poor (they’re not even doing that atm) but also middle class - and the economic policy needs to be much more centrist. They have an opportunity to take support from greens by coming up with a green deal, with no Corp tax for 10 years in deprived areas for new investment from r&d/tech companies which will a) help environment, b) create jobs in areas of country needing investment and c) deal with the reality of Brexit as a fact of life and work it to the countries advantage. Cnn had yet another terrible story on their website today about UK (they seem to have a policy decision made that is anti-uk) but regardless the story mentioned England becoming a 1 party state which in their usual moronic way misses the point, that said labor really needs to drastically change because the country does need an effective opposition and whilst conservatives have been doing a decent job recently they will eventually screw up bad enough they need thrown out and there needs to be a real party waiting in the wings to take over and right now, I wouldn’t trust labor to run the church social (well, if I was supernaturally inclined and cared about churches that is).
The Labour candidate is a doctor and worked in the hospital throughout the pandemic and continues to do shifts there. As a local GP he and the other local doctors had to work out how they were going to continue to deliver health services with the massive cuts to the local health budget imposed by the Tory government, that is why he was among those who proposed moving the A&E. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good facebook disinformation campaign. Stuff like this is why we're in the state we're in.
@@ncage2621 no one wants socialist agendas wake up. Its this ideology that has crippled Labour and its members. They cant get a leader that has a stand in anything because the party members can't agree on anything. To many left to many right bickering so I stead they sit on the fence on all major policies and agendas. Until they have a vision left or right they won't have a vision and they won't win Why vote for a party that can't even put a policy together. Rip Labour party Pick a side and go full throttle at least people will now know what they get when they vote
@@ncage2621 Labour wasn't founded on socialism. It was founded on labour rights. In fact, it lost a huge chunk of the working class, especially in the non-union south and Catholics in the north when it did go socialist in the 1930s. Socialism really should have died in the 1940s.... it doesn't work, it's never worked. I can't understand why people haven't worked this out by now.
They need a new leader who is bombastic and speaks without thinking ("He tells it like it is"). People don't care about policies they just get a feeling for a candidate and go on that. Boris is seen as a fun lad. Starmer comes across too educated and serious.
Surprised you didn’t mention how many councillors they have lost to the Greens. Bristol West could very well give the greens their second MP at the next general election.
You know there's something seriously wrong with Labour when he can win with that video especially with the pose and what it said below him (if you've seen the video you should know what I mean)
@@Paul_Davies I'd argue there'd be something seriously wrong with Britain if he lost with that video, especially with the pose and what it said below him.
This is what happens when you dont stand for anything. People dont like to hear this... but Corbyn's economic policies were very much popular in these northern areas. Labour's vote share is LOWER than in 2019- so people who are blaming this loss on Corbyn's ghost are completely deluded.
Can someone tell Starmer that Mcdonalds are hiring. left or right, if you can do so much as even land stalemate (nevermind a loss) against a party which botched the pandemic response and is plaqued with cronyism you probably shouldn't lead a party.
Outside of London you can live a good life 50% own there property in the North and Midlands Lots of people in the North are doing fine even with brexit
This video seemed to almost exclusively talk about Brexit. I think most people (when voting in local council elections) are more concerned with fairly mundane things like avoiding increases in council tax, clean streets, etc. Labour in my area at least don't mention these issues.
Labour aren't doing too well on a local or national level, and Conservatives are benefiting every time Labour fails. I still don't think that Kier Starmer was the right person for the job.
There's a few reasons that weren't brought up: - We've had Labour in Hartlepool for about 50 years, and one of the massive reasons was the feeling of "being taken for granted" among former Labour voters that led to them initially going Brexit Party as the viable alternative in 2019, and then committing and going Conservative two years later. - Related, we've had very little investment leaving us with huge unemployment and huge crime rates. Obviously you can blame either party for this, and the Tories are in power (historically parties don't favour the oppositions safe seats), but like TLDR said Ben Houchen is incredibly popular for the investments in Teeside. We've nationalised our airport for 40 million, and we'll be designated a Freeport; people are desperate for the same in Hartlepool, and I personally think it's the beginning of the end for Labour's hold not just in the local area, but on the north. - On a national level, Labour has an identity crisis; it seems like it can't decide whether to pander to the traditional socialist voters, or the middle ground Blairite voters. The issue is, the working class isn't made up of steelworkers and miners anymore - the votes for the BP in 2019 show that it's disgruntled unemployed working class Brexiteers who are out of work, and want it back. The Tories appear actually able to deliver on that as a united entity, while Labour is still split in that regard. I did hear a number of times as well that Labour appears to be more pandering to the minority issues which has apparently alienated them from the majority, but for Hartlepool this is extremely evident for people who simply are tired of social justice - "at the end of the day, me accepting whatever you've got between your legs isn't gonna put food on the table".
@@NAYRUthunder99 That's true! I imagine (it's a quote from a mate to clarify) it's more the feeling of apathy because you can't really go on social media without encountering people talking about social issues, and it's not something that affects the majority of us. Perhaps it's Labour focusing on said vocal minority and those issues, rather than for instance the wider issues that affect us all that have led to people becoming disillusioned with them as representative of everybody. Ironically I'd say it's the attempt to include everybody that has pushed people (such as a hard Brexit town like Hartlepool) away.
I’m actually in favour of Wales and Scotland leaving the union. The “Kingdom of England” flying a flag of st George has a nice ring to it. Maybe if things go REALLY well we can also abolish the monarchy and write a formal constitution :-O
@Moby Pancake Scotland and NI (reunified with Ireland) definitely would, Scotland could leave tomorrow and be fine. Wales needs work but its economy is growing.
@Moby Pancake every more developed country in debt yeah pancake it's a question of whether or not they can maintain a good GDP which. They can. They can afford 4 NHS's and could pay to rejoin the EU by settling the debt Britain left. Even downing street advisors have admitted that when they thought they were behind closed doors. All Scotland would have to do is form a union with Ireland which is already a member. No approval by spain needed, that being said the UK is a union, scotland is already. A devolved state it's no where near the same situation as Catalonia. Pretty sure they'd switch to Euros as well.
42.3% turnout in Hartlepool by-election. When turnout is that low, it's almost impossible to actually guage public opinion. The only practical interpretation you can make is that huge swathes of the electorate are disenchanted with politics right now.
@@timjones2329 knights protect the status quo, and the hierarchy of the deserved poor and the entitled rich. That's their purpose mate. If he was a decent humans rights lawyer he should have stuck to his day job instead of throwing Labour under the bus and pretending its everyone else's fault. What a guy.. 😏
@@benblakesley5871 Pfff, I wish. While in the UK, it seems like the representatives of all major parties make a great effort to "reach across the aisle" and gain support from the other parties' bases, we have candidates here who will write off a good chunk of their opponents supporters as "deplorables" who aren't worth their effort campaigning for *_cough_* Hillary *_cough_* Perhaps that's part of why my country is so afraid of direct majority-rule democracy, as it'd essentially end up being two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
It's asked because most people who still vote Labour can't understand it. The party has become so Anti-UK, and Anti-Citizen that they simply have lost touch with the majority of the people who they think should be voting for them. Maybe if they could somehow turn their focus inward instead of looking out at the rest of the world they might be able to reconnect, but I doubt that will happen any time soon. Their current direction has too much "Momentum".
@@VME-Brad Yes, but the same question is asked every time... and every time they fail to learn. Wokeness, lack of patriotism, extreme socialism, disdain/disrespect for their voters. In a nutshell, the takeover by Momentum.
Obviously not all votes counted disclaimer and all that etc etc But so far, if his intended aim was to get more votes than Fox, he has failed miserably. currently Fox in 6th place and Fosh in 19th place
@@sonofeast11 Is it surprising he failed so miserably? His videos were just pathetic..... Niko was having fun and pulled some funny stunts and made some effort. Fosh just turned up outside Fox's office with a couple of music stands and did nothing except awkwardly talk to a cabbie and Jurassic parks, which was so painfully unfunny as the cabby didn't get it at all. Fox even, somehow, (cause he's a massive prick) came off better at the end when Max was trying to get a rise out of him and Fox was basically saying 'stop bothering me, I'm actually trying to do something, why don't you.' and Max has nothing but his childish bullying tactics to go on. Literally the only thing he kinda did was rent that car and park by his bus, after that he sent Fox a cake and set up a fake website in his name and made a clickbait that he 'stole the website'. I'm actually really glad he failed miserably as given the pathetic attempts he made and the poor taste tactics (of just basically being a school bully) he deserved to fail.
It sounds like Hartlepool would've been Tory for a while, but because preferential voting isn't a thing, it's been misrepresented. This looks to be a correction more than anything.
Starmer... When a party becomes that which it was set up to oppose it loses in every conceivable way no matter what the result of an election neoliberalism is ending go with it.
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Take all the time you need, we'll wait. You all keep us informed, and provide goood insight all in an unbiased way. I'm certain that all other viewers share the same sentiment, and are all eternally thankful :)
The audio quality sound good and sound the same
You should apologise for using a map of Greater London to represent Tyne and Wear. It's not that hard to find a map of the County.
I think the audio sounds fine sir.
Great video, thanks! Just an editing thing - I think it would be better if you didn’t hide text behind the images. Just put the text further into the top left corner and image into the bottom right.
I'd never imagine I'd hear the word MILF in the context of a local UK election in my life
Same, I was tricked into coming here too. 😆
I only read "VILF". I don't know how people even found out
@@tomasbeltran04050 they didn't the conservatives probably hired a personal investigator to dig up some dirt on him. They probably don't do this as much during the general election since there are way too many MPs to do it to. This dude was on his own, out of the heard.
@@mojo331 Honestly I think we're all sinners as far as social media goes. Also don't think this had too much of an impact on Labour, since the other factors alone would've been enough to crush the party a the election
Lolz
"The voters let us down badly" was a Labour MP quote I heard the other day. There you have it in a nutshell - they blame the voters for their position, rather than shifting their policies to suit the changing attitudes.
And what will the attitude be when the elderly and stupid finally work out that the brexit unicorns haven't materised?
Because I can gaarentee one thing, the morons who voted for brexit will get absolutely nothing apart from possiblya redundancy notice
@@jeremysmith8035 They'll very figure it out, the BBC has had its wings clipped and GBNews will pump out propaganda 24/7
These people could make the right decision even before all that
@@jeremysmith8035 you may be able to guarantee it but you can't spell it lol (now who's stupid).
So you've still got ya heed in the sand ?!?!?! The facts are totally reet and you obviously not heard what the owld timers were saying when questioned about voting 4 the country's enemy the Tory party ? Thick is as thick does they took the bait hook line and sinker !!!!
Big thing in Hartlepool was also that not only did Conservatives gain votes, but Labour lost around 7-8,000
From the pie charts it looked like the change in absolute votes was mostly down to a significantly lower turnout and the upswing in conn votes was from the prior Brexit votes. This meant that labour had many fewer votes but the proportions didn't change very much.
Labour deserved everything they got. They called BREXIT voters racists and tried to reverse their rights to choose. Contemptible, the lot of them.
Yep. This can't purely be explained by the Farage Factor.
@@GG-qx5uc the turnout was unusually high for a by-election though
@@mungulor true but it's still down on the prior results so saying anyone lost votes isn't meaningful
I just realised that 1% of people want Count Binface as their mayor, seriously.
Who wouldn't
@@piefaceapl1210 ikr, should be at least 80%
ok seriously, the candidate field is mediocre aside from count binface.
It shows just how bad a campaign was run by both the main parties that Count Binface and Niko did so well
The joke candidates always come out for by-elections cause of the publicity. In this case, Labour.
Can you blame them lol
Thank you for mentioning the sexual harassment allegations, I haven't heard that being mentioned in any other Hartlepool election commentary.
Why are you thanking them, that's so strange
@@parastroika2393 for shining light on the matter.
@@jamesoakley4570 cringe
@@parastroika2393 thanking video creators if you like the content is very common on youtube, just like in real life. Very strange that you don't understand the basic concept of thanking others.
@@margaritales9972 because parastroika is an edgy teenager on his mums basement upset that he has no friends
Well, after Gordon Brown left office, I'm afraid Labour has been having several identity crizes.
@@haggi2132 corbyn failed bc he tried to make the election about class warfare when brexit was the most significant issue at that time.
It’s ever since the Lib Dem’s had a coalition with the Tories and agreed to the current university fees system. Student switched to Labour, then the woke middle class.
Labour pandered to them, it’s backfired. No one likes guardian readers, even themselves.
@DEx Stev he literally was not anti semetic you really should do some actual research. Corbyn would have been the best prime minister this country has had since Attlee
@DEx Stev lmao actually do some research 😂😂 you're making a fool of yourself
Tony Blair was the most successful Labour leader.
This horrific showing from Starmer's Labour should hopefully be enough to get them to look hard at everything they've done over the last 18 months and conclude it's all somehow Corbyn's fault.
Love this😂😂
what has happened since corbyn left is starmer's fault.
what happened before corbyn left was corbyn's fault.
both of them are hot garbage lol, the party is dying and people are fleeing to the conservative party and the green party.
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In 2017, the Tories got 14,319 votes in Hartlepool. In 2021, they got 15,529.
In 2017, Corbyn's Labour got 21,969 votes. In 2021 under Starmer, they got 8,589.
So I doubt it was conservatives showing better.
In 2017, Corbyns labour were still talking redistributive policies, Tory corruption, and class and relative inequality issues... They went on to show their true priorities over the next three years. Britain rejected those priorities, we aren't a country of identity obsessed socialists. When you spend two years saying you're concerned with working class issues then literally oppose a working class decision for the next three years... You can blame wet flannel starmer all you like, but the rest of the UK know it's just cope, the quicker you realise the real issue is with the behaviour of leftists the quicker the left get back in contention.
Turn out in by-elections are always lower.
The "Labour voters didn't turn up." Is quite false, I think.
Turn out fell 15%. Last by-election anywhere? Went down 17%.
Why not benchmarking vs 2019? Surely that is the correct thing to do?
The labour party now feels more like a party for upper middle class hippies than for actual working class labour.
More than feels, it is.
Champagne socialists, limousine liberals, Starbucks Marxists.
Labour supporters are one of its biggest problems, the air of superiority. I think it’s fantastic, all anyone who needs to do to sabotage Labour is give it a megaphone.
@@mrmagoo-i2l We need someone like Dennis Skinner running the party. That’ll sort us out.
@Αναντάμ Παπαντάμ And just like clockwork, they appear.
That's worked for the Democrats to be fair! And weirdly it could still be a successful strategy for Labour if they embrace PR and the smaller parties
@@gamriii I don’t know, Labour has a pretty bad image problem. I can’t see a way out though, anything populist coming from Labour would be seen as Blairite.
This can’t go on though, a one party system is terrible for the country. Any hair brained idea will be called “the will of the people”. It’s not the will of the people, most don’t vote for they vote against. This time it was against Labour.
Similar thing in the US, not many voted for Biden. They voted against Trump.
Anyone but x, y, z normally ends up badly though.
Pumping money into areas outside London win you votes
Why didn't anyone before Boris think of that ,😂😂
Forget Remain or Leave. The Tory constituencies are nice and leafy. The folks in Hartlepool want to be Woodlesford By The Sea not West Bowling By The Sea.
Especially if you only send the money to places who vote for you.
Tory have just spent 11 years taking money out of places like Hartlepool. So the people of Hartlepool voted for them. Great.
Only where they have recently won a Tory MP, don't you watch the news ffs !
It was dissected an analysed and proven correct.
Only Tory held marginals get financial aid.
Tis is NOT made up ! and I am not a Labour voter before you ask[or accuse]
You need to stop reading the newspapers pal
@@shanjanusman9974 Exactly this - I've moved around quite a lot around the country and have lived in both Labour and Conservative councils. The Conservative councils are far better run usually with more regular bin collections and street cleaning, better policing, better organization of roadworks and all for less council tax! I'm not entirely sure why the Labour councils do so badly, but they generally employ far more people working under them so it could just be a case of inefficiency.
I think there are two main reason why labour lost that seat, one is the fact people don’t know what keir starmer stands for, the second is that awful video of him and that pub owner. He could of handle the situation so much better as everyone is angry with how things have gone, and then his security stepped out of line and I shall say no more, all this before an election and in front of the media.
Labour lost it when they started to go Woke. Woke is detested by the working class as pompous Marxist virtue signalling, anti-British Culture, Identity Politics which creates divisions in society.
@@Teasehirt Indeed don't be Woke, be Asleep to win elections!!
Keir stands for profit margins and some virtue signaling.
@@ameyas7726
If you believe those values are worth pursuing, good luck to You.
But they are absolutely not the values of the rest of the UK.
They doomed themselves when they elected someone with a Sir title. As if the working class are going to relate to someone called Sir Kier Starmer.
5:44 You made an error with "Hendon in Sunderland" there - I thought it was a slip of tongue, but the video says Sunderland and shows a map of London LOL
i think its hendon in london lol
@@badenburns9765 I know it is, I just wanted to point it out to them
They really were talking about Hendon (ward) in Sunderland.
I have no idea how they took the map of London with Hendon (constituency - much larger than a ward which is held by conservatives btw).
They probably don’t live in London or anywhere close. It’s a very famous shape and you can clearly see the Thames flowing east into the North Sea
Oops.
Don't worry tldr seems to have terrible standard's when it come too proofreading and reviewing produced videos nearly every video has errors in them that could be been caught before release
What went wrong is simple.
KS came into power and decided to take a vow of silence for 6+ months.
But worry not, blame Corbyn......
I'd heard of Starmer doing things. I don't think he took a vow of silence so much as Labour has been focused completely inward from what I can tell since 2019. They do their job in Parliament and outside of that it seems to just be how do we hold the Party together. The only reason that's not been a major issue for Conservatives is their jobs hinge more upon Party unity right now and they're doing quite well electorally.
Of course none of these things really matter in the end. The public is going to do whatever it's going to do and it often won't make any sense. Not to mention media will heavily favour Conservatives the whole world over so regardless those candidates will always get a coverage boost. And it doesn't help that a Conservative can be accused of just about anything and it won't bother their voters, but anyone from any other Party has to actually live up to a sense of acceptable morality or else they'll get the boot.
A Conservative could commit vehicular manslaughter and win re-election (they've actually even legalized this in some US States) but if a leftist politician has an unpaid speeding ticket their career is toast. Unless they're a major politician of course. Party leaders get away with a lot no matter what Party they lead for example.
I mean he litterally says he takes full responsibility for these results, watch the video before commenting
@@wile123456 thanks, I did watch the video and Fyi KS initially made the 'I take responsibility' speech before the Thursday election, knowing how bad it's going to be for the Labour party.
@@wile123456 just because "he takes responsibility" doesn't mean anything will actually change. Labour have gone down hill a lot over the last 3 or 4 years and just can't keep up. KS is not well liked and doesn't come across as a strong leader
If you don’t think that corbynite shift from policies aimed at the working class majority to policies and narratives aimed at intersectional middle class identity politics types and students isn’t the reason for the death of the Labour Party, then you’re as out of touch with the working man as he is. As long as they push any narrative about systemic oppression or other woke talking points, they will not have the working class vote.
Quite simply: the Tories can appeal to the widest group of people. For rural voters, they can put on the appeal of being backswoodsmen, for northern voters they can put on the appeal of being populists and enacting renationalisation, and for the south they can put on the mask of being thatcherites, and for everyone they give a simple, popular, patriotic message.
Labour, for better or for worse, has ceased to be a broad church, and hence is doomed to fail to the infinitely more flexible Tories.
I mean, that's just saying that lying and cheating works. The problem isn't that labor isn't doing that, the problem is a lack of accountability on the Tory side.
@@drsnova7313 no, quite the opposite. By and large, the Tories are doing what they say in these areas: slow renationalisation of the railways in the north, renationalisation of the airports in the north, but more privatisation in the south, and more subsidies in rural England.
What I’m saying is that PRAGMATISM works. It’s always been that way in British politics: Labour could learn a thing or two
@@BocaoZ aye, that’s why I said populism and renationalisation in two different parts
The johnson government has said nothing about any renationalisations?
@@lewis123417 aye, they’ve said not a thing about it: they’re still doing it
The biggest thing that the results show is that Wales, England and Scotland are increasingly vastly different countries politically
It’s always been like that!
Scots have not voted Tory majority for 70 years .
Scots get outvoted 11/1 by English voters. Welsh 20/1 N Irish 24/1 .
Explain how this is a union of equals ? or are some people more equal than others ?
@@pablosaintmarr3223 because that’s how population differences work, or in other words, basic maths.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 It's not a union of equals. If it was then England would have MORE votes as the other regions are very overrepresented in Westminster.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 no there’s just more people in England
Labour need to change. I voted for them but I honestly did it because I dislike the Boris. I don’t know what labour is anymore
I'd love to know why you think that. Personally I joined Labour after the 2019 election and voted for Starmer (would still now as RLB and Nandy I don't think would've changed much compared to Starmer). I personally feel they represent working people who want a fair society. I don't understand the logic of voting Conservative if you're working class. To me, it's like a Turkey voting for Christmas but then I appreciate I'm biased hence I'd love to know more than the usual cliche "don't know what labour is" or "labour isn't for the working class".
@@akashr9 I think it is because, at least in how its understood by normal people, labour is more centred on a certain type of middle class 'intellectual' base in London and some other cities and on students and ethnic minorities. While policy decisions might not obviously show that, the dialogue that comes from labour people does over the last few years and the momentum crowd are more that way inclined. Nationalisation of things also seems quite meaningless to a lot of people
@@TimRosenburg definitely think the message needs to change on that. Also the in-fighting needs to stop from the Left of the party. If the party was unified more and the policies were clearer, they'd have a better chance. Also getting over the hurdle of the UK Media is a tough job for Labour
@@akashr9 appreciate the response. I think labour still is for working class but I don’t think they are in touch with the who the working class is anymore, at least a good portion of it. People are more selfish now because of the personal difficulties they have. Not everyone has the luxury to consider the collective good. I didn’t hear labour talk about what they were going to do that would personally effect the working class(please correct me I am wrong, I may missed it). I don’t even remember them saying a proper number on what they would raise Nurses wages by. I am working class and cannot see myself ever voting for tories because of the privatisation but I don’t see any substantial action from labour on anything.
All this may seem a bit vague because it kind of is. These things just caused me to doubt labour a lot. The one thing that really made me lose sight of what labour is, is when Starmer didn’t call out the health secretary on the corruption case. I believe starmer said something along the lines of this isn’t the time, but jumped on Boris for the texts. Ethics, honesty and integrity mean a lot to me. I can’t accept someone who was the head of CPS not going hard on all corruption.
@@silverhawk923 thanks. It's a strange time, I agree he should've gone more attacking on corruption allegations. I was listening to David Lammy and he said its the risk of defamation calling it "corruption" for them. I do think they should've done it anyway because we all know the Tories and the media would've said that if it was reversed. I think after this a full policy list needs to be released out and really hit home. I agree some of the old policies may cut through but the ones saying that the 2019 manifesto was perfect are deluded. The party needs to come more to the centre as he's doing but I think centre left - centre is ideal for electability given we aren't gonna go from the right to left in one go. I do hope things change because honestly it's baffling people thinking Boris is change when they've been in power for 11 years
Starmer seems like such a forgettable empty suit, I have no idea what he stands for other than empty platitudes
I know he likes to knee
Doesn't matter who is in charge if you don't have a vision or stance on anything. Sitting on the border on every major decision. Labour are moving further and further far left leaving behind there core voters like me. Its sad to say but Labour are now a far left progressive activist group. Thats why they are losing supports like me and until they change course and get back to there core purpose. The working class. Then I fear they will not even be a opposition force in a few years
@@willtruthteller4694 how can they be far left without taking a stance? Seems like being far left would require taking radical stances?
The leader's job is to set the direction, if the party lacks a clear position and vision that's on the leader.
@@QXDme the party needs to be united so the leader can offer those positions and policies. When a leader sits on the fence it shows that the party is in turmoil over that policy or stance. If your a leader should goes against the majority of its members they will vote no confidence. Sitting on the wall avoids that from happening. And unfortunately Labour have sat on the wall for so long they are now fat.
Doesn't matter if the leader has a vision if the members don't agree he can't put that vision across.
Which just goes to show how divided they are with left and right ideologies.
Offering NOTHING to voters makes it crystal clear who Starmer represents... Non-Voting political forces = Big Business/Corporations
The fact the tories bumbled through the pandemic and thousands have died from their negligence and they've being rewarded for it, appalling.
Don't worry the economy is going to collapse. Collapse currency, Rampant inflation and those on fixed incomes in poverty. Will have to be some kind of coup or government of national unity
@@JesterEric i expect a slide into police state rubbish. I'm also not sure how the economy will callapse. Its already a recession from the virus
A baseless statement
5:44 that's actually Hendon, north London (nearly where I live), not in Sunderland, lol.
Great video nonetheless. Keep it up.
Having your bodyguard attack a landlord whilst you enter his pub clearly unwelcome and uninvited is never good optics.
Did that labour guy do that? Wtf!
He never attacked him. He was clearly restraining the guy.
@@danielcollinson4456 Who gave him the right to "restrain" a private citizen on his own private property? Nobody. It is assault simple as that.
When I tried to find the pub video I played a clip without the bodyguard incident, the pub owner was just throwing misinformation (masks don't work, let old people die, etc) at him and people in the comments were applauding him. I'm happy to hear that most people are siding with him because of some bodyguard issue, made me lose hope in England that people would applaud such a loonie otherwise.
@@Harsh-mg2em The guy lost it and looked like he was going to attack Starmer. What do people expect the minder to do. Thats his job
I want to thank the ardent remainers who run this channel for giving us unbiased information. That's super hard to do. Many thanks for putting in the effort. It has helped me get the information I need much more quickly.
I had heard you're remainers. My apologies if I have mislabeled you. Your impartiality is much appreciated all the same.
I think it's fairly easy to see where they stand but I do agree they are good at being impartial. Definitely one of the best.
I guess having a brain and being logical does mean your a remainer
I second this! Imagine if the BBC took such an ethos to heart. TLDR's excellent.
@@slbfiel8203 I'm not a remainer, but I do possess the intellectual capacity to know when to use the word 'your' in a sentence.
Labour isn't Labour. It's been a long time since Attlee.
I would genuinely vote for an Attleean Labour: patriotic, socially conservative, anti-American, socialist. But it seems labour will have to stay in the political doldrums until they realise that’s what the vast majority of their old base want.
@@onecertainesquire486 Attlee was hardly socially conservative. He oversaw the dismantling of the british empire and in his final years advocated for the decriminilasation of homosexuality
I'm happy that he is bitterly disappointed.
He needs to get off his knees and actually spend time around his parties base, instead of with the middle class student types .
It's too late for Starmer.. he blew his chances to lead Labour to anything as soon as the nation saw him bend the knee to the barbarians of BLM, who are sworn enemies of Western civilisation by their own words. Anyone who agitates against great heroes like Winston Churchill or tries to suggest that the British should feel any shame for past involvement in the slave trade despite being the primary world power responsible for an expensive decades-long war against it using the Royal Navy's control of the seas (which UK taxpayers only just paid off in the 21st century), deserves the drubbing they will get at the ballot box, to say nothing of the Left's marriage of convenience with Islamists, woke doomsday cultists, and their disloyalty to our national flag, traditions and superior Western values in favour of hardcore socialist wealth confiscation from those who do all the work, and unaccountable proto-fascist systems of unaccountable governance like the EU.
@@juliapigworthy Great reply
@@juliapigworthy Time to take your pills grandma. They'll make the voices stop.
@@Centurion97 no thank you, I prefer to stay healthy with a sensible lifestyle without having my immune system sabotaged by any meds or pumping my veins full of experimental crap.
@@Centurion97 go lose an election
Kier taking “full responsibility” by deflecting blame to someone else. Can this clown just resign
When Corbyn was leader, I felt as though Labour had a leader that could actually coral support. I felt like there was an identity and even if his policies were on cases extreme, he came across as somebody that had worked his way up without the silver spoon and someone whose social care policies I could get on board with.
Under Keir, Labour just feels like a soulless abyss.
This reminded me of the most recent New Zealand election where the incumbent Labour government was re-elected in a landslide.
From the POV of a non-Brit, this seems more like a Tory success rather than a Labour failure. The voters, fairly or not, credit the incumbent government for the COVID recovery and vaccine rollout (It doesn’t matter as long as the gov is perceived as competent and successful). My evidence? Look at Wales. The incumbent Labour there picked up seats in the devolved assembly even though they were predicted to lose.
Nice vídeo 👍
Perfect understable.
From Portugal, keep up the good work
5:48 Sunderland has grown a lot since I last visited!
Expect it to shrink soon , now they themselves with their Brexit vote have more or less closed the car plant which employs 6000 directly and 70'000 indirectly.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 5:48, it's a map of London
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I don't do religious nutters , but thanks anyway .
@@pablosaintmarr3223 If RNM leaves we will always find a way to survive. We lost MG Rover under Labour and even when EU membership was secure and solid at the time.
@@pablosaintmarr3223 Boris Johnson provided a bribe to keep the Nissan plant open. So not this year. Next he can blame it on something other than Brexit.
As a former Labour voter, I rest my vote.
Labour MP’s continually spout their personal and single track, one topic narrative and listen to no other view or discourse. Diane Abbott the worst of the worst. Starmer will never be our Prime Minister. He is a vague and as non committal as Corbyn. The Remainer MPs of all the political parties but particularly Labour, will reap the condemnation of the Leave supporters. Not for reasons of a voting difference on EU but because of their derogatory and often blatant pee take of Brexit itself, it’s voters and their scaremongering and name calling. We will never forget the subliminal bullying and mockery metered out by MP’s The European Council and the MSM in particular the BBC and Sky. Above all Starmer will be remembered for his condescending and wholly unprofessional remark to Rob the Barman (quote).
“ I don’t need a lecture from you” (unquote).
Seems Starmer did need that lecture after all. Good riddance Starmer it’s just a matter of months.
However as a non Labour voter, it's interesting to know what make the tories so appealing? Like the misappropriation of funds to their friends and over 100k covid deaths, what would it take for Boris to get the message that crony politics isn't required. I am not a Labour voter as I am not English, and if I was I would not support Labour as for some of the points you made. They can't make up their mind on anything, but when is enough of BJ and his utter contentment for the British people. So far he gets away with whatever he can? Which is everything!
The problem is that the country is falling to right wing populism - people are voting conservative in the face of problems caused by the Conservative party. It also doesn’t help that a lot of ballots have 3 left leaning parties against the one right - Labour either need to embrace the LDs and Greens or clearly distinguish themselves before all 3 get steamrollered by the fairly well-united right. Might be wrong but it’s what it looks like to me.
Riddle me this. If right-wing is populism (popular policies which the majority want);
What the hell is left-wing? The opposite?
The Left trying to sell paternalism is like Linda McCartney selling steak
The Tories under Boris are not actually right wing at all. That's Labour's problem, they have parked their tanks on Tony Blair's lawn
How to know how biased a news source is: If it's comment section is fighting, chances are that it's unbiased lol
So tldr news dont have many people fighting here. Is it bias or not ?
@@noblenaveragemanointernet2582 Oh I found quite a few people arguing, ranging from Corbynites (I probably butchered that spelling) and right wingers who hate everything about labour. So I would say TLDR news is pretty unbiased even if I do think that it leans slightly left but it's a good news source.
I stopped voting labour in 2020, but then again for the first time I never voted either.
There IS NOT a viable party worth voting for & British political system is outdated and broken.
Labour has lost its way' and not sure it will find its' way back anytime soon..
Out of curiosity, what kinda party would you vote for?
Agreed, my dude. Hopefully with Labour collapsing we can get a decent opposition that can hold the Tories to the fire but I don’t hold out much hope.
You should vote Green if you want an alternative
@@purpledevilr7463 A party that isn't HEAVILY FUNDED by major corporations.
A party that puts the people first ahead of THEIR OWN INTERESTS.
A party that is willing to negotiate & deliberate with an opposition party for the good of the country.
I could go on, but it would be easier to write a book on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@zaksharman Yes it is a good alternative party, I have previously voted for them. But they don't have enough support to make an impact.....YET...
If you were to read Twitter over the last few days and saw what was trending you think Labour would have stormed to victory given the levels of left wing activism!
Now although I do vote Tory I do recognise the benefit of having a credible opposition, Labour really needs to get it's house in order as Britain in now effectively a one party state.
One of Labour's main problems is they seem to paying more attention to Twitter than the electorate.
"I will take full responsibility for these horrendous losses. That's why I'm firing my party chairman."
I love these video's. Looking forward to the video about the Scottish elections! Greetings from Belgium.
Video's : Dutch
Videos: English
From Portugal 💪
@@barnbersonol You assume that he wasn't using the apostrophe as a contraction...such as for example of "videographic presentations".
You see, there is always a bigger pedant.
It seems like the Scots keep inching left while their southern neighbor is steering harder and harder to the right
Harder right? The mass immigration supporting and green agenda tories? Hardly hard right
The conservatives have to be very careful not to rest on their laurels. They have to maintain their commitments to leveling up and continue to speak to ordinary citizens.
I completely agree.
Wolf Haines are you seriously??
@@user-dk2ol7pq6r Organic growth in the North like the organic growth of the athletes foot between my toes?
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda yep exactly like that !
They'll never "level up" the country, that's a meaningless phrase and they'll never deliver real investment
It's nice to see a TLDR comment section that isn't just full of tory-bashing comments with tons of upvotes. There's some actual interesting discourse!
That Jacob Rees Mogg animation @07:23 was very clever 😂
They always do it lol
@@VPhantom-rf3qo when they show Corbyn, do they show a stickman laying flowers on a grave with the headstone showing a X through a jewish star?
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I thought it was Desmond Swayne??
@@rockangel1603 you can easily pick out the real snowflakes nowadays because they’re on the left and they go around calling others snowflakes (2016 wants its word back btw) as a defence mechanism.
There’s no such thing as ‘British’ politics anymore. Obviously you’ve got the SNP in Scotland, Labour collapsing in England while in Wales they’ve just equalled their best ever Senedd result
It’s worth noting that across the uk progressive Labour councillors have outperformed the party across the board this clearly shows the direction the party should go.
Maybe they should start there own party and see what happens?
@@matthewevans5486 the Labour Party is our party why should we leave lol
The strange thing is that it is easier for the Conservatives to move to the left Economically than for Labour to move to the right on social issues. Given that most working class people are Economically left but socialy right labour just cannot win!
They could try focusing on economically populist issues while shifting on Brexit outside remain constituencies and turn down the socially left wing rhetoric. If they can get someone seen as moderate to do that while backing off some of Corybn's proposals that seem more radical like nationalisation of key services then perhaps they can appeal to both sides but they would need a campaigner as skilled as Blair but without the baggage and more economically left wing to achieve that. Or for there to be a massive scandal big enough to kill the conservatives momentum which seems unlikely.
@@silverdeathgamer2907 or they could embrace cultural conservativism, which is the ideology of a majority of British people.
@@rvanzo925 Maybe but I don't think they can ever beat the conservatives on that front while retaining what remains of their base.
@@rvanzo925 And then lose the bame vote? Which labour dominate in. Yeah thats what they need. Get rid of even more of their voters
@@silverdeathgamer2907 They cant attract tory voters no matter how far right they move because tory voters are already happy with the tories. Its like if the conservatives tried to win over hard left voters with a socialist leader. Why would they do that when the party trying to win them over has a long history of not caring about their interests and the party they voted for, for several years is the same party they've always been.
A lot of people in Hartlepool said it came down to Labour councillors not investing properly and caring for the community. That's what I heard.
I think the problem labour had was an identity one, in the last election the Tories and brexit party combined won a majority, but because of the split vote labour one. Hartlepool was a very pro brexit area, and labour just wasn't appealing to brexiteers. It will be interesting to see what happens next, whether labour splits, or hard left labour move support to other parties like the greens and the lib Dems
@@Andy-qs6me Greens make sense. Lib Dems and hard left don't sound right to me. But yeah I agree.
@@sw9618 yep agreed, I meant lib dem as they are a *very* pro EU party and are the third biggest party in England (debatable). But I don't know, and if the split occurs it is probably the greens who hard left labour will migrate to
@@Andy-qs6me Yeah, we shall see.
And they voted conservative jajaja
'Get Woke, Go Broke' - Applies in politics as strongly as in entertainment, business etc.
That picture of Kier kneeling really came back to haunt him
Green Party gains as of 07/05/2021
32 seats gained from Conservatives
29 seats gained from Labour
3 seats gained from LD
1 seat gained from IND
Conservative gains 158. Being realistic only labour is loosing out.
Feel like this isn't being talked about more. I really feel like the Greens will become the opposition party if Labour keep going at the rate they are going
They're finished. Starmer is the best thing that happened to the Tories. Fucking hell.
I'm letting my Labour membership go. We went from a leader with no charisma or enthusiasm, but some interesting policies who did perfectly fine other than on Brexit, which was his downfall (Corbyn). We then decided that the policies were the issue.
And now, here we are, with some guy most of the population has no idea who he is, what he stands for, or how he would improve their lives in any way.
He'll lose the next general election and I think we need a speaker and an orator as the next leader. Maybe a tiny bit of a lefty.
People aren't excited by Keir, and we need people to be engaged again. Keir is not the man to do that. He'll get my vote. But it's not like I'm happy about it. No policies, no excitement, no real opposition.
Sam, have you looked onto joining the greens? We're growing across the country, have real policies and a practical outlook - give us a look!
@@dankit2548 Oh don't you worry mate, I'll be joining the Greens pretty soon I think.
@@samwebb5648 that's awesome news, we'll be glad to have you!!
@@dankit2548 the greens are a joke too obsessed with pleasing the champagne socialists of the middle class the chances of the Green Party doing anything useful are about the same as tony Blair not being a war criminal
I've seen wet blankets with more charisma than Sir Keir. Utterly uninteresting character.
If you take for granted your core votership and focus on identity politics, this is what you get.
3:20 my man knows what he likes 😂
It seems like the Brexit issue has completely hobbled the party. It split their base down the middle and now they have no clue what they want to be. With Scotland possibly splitting off, barring a huge scandal within the Tories or an enormous economic downturn, it looks like Labour's doomed to being a minority party for many years.
Good points.
Why do you think that didn't happen to the Tory party? Over a third of Conservative 2015 voters voted remain. But most of those didn't leave in 17 and 19.
I don't know the answer.
Maybe they were "remain, but not that important". So economics out weighted the EU as an issue for them?
What constitutes a huge scandal? I think the tories can get away with any corruption or scandal now.
@@ninamimi6622 what "scandals" has the Tory party had? Giving contracts to freinds? Name one political entity throughout the entire of political history that hasn't done that. Boris' flat refurb? No-one gives a shit
At this rate the U.K. will become a one party state in all but name
Then maybe Labour should stop worrying about what People's Pronouns are and race baiting, then they might actually win?
@@darrellbruh1335 couldn’t agree more, it’s either the become a joe Biden, Kamala Harris type party or they stay centre like they were initially founded to be
If they stopped doing that, they'd just be shifting further right, and betraying their voter base more they already have. You'd become just as cucked as the Democrats and that's a bad thing
Scotland already is
I mean I never said labour is blameless at all, they’ve had weak ass response and are giving the Tories powers by being so inept
Ur right about the Hartlepool reasons as Labour only fluked 2019 because the Brexit party split the right wing vote. Not only that, but they failed to get anyone who was on Hartlepool's side. It went all sorts of wrong and while it was inevitable, you can see that they absolutely did not appeal to the Brexit voters and need to shift that if they want their seats back.
As a Labour voter, I can understand why Hartlepool was frustrated and this was the final nail in the coffin
Hartlepool also voted over 50% for Labour in 2017.
The split Brexit vote obviously helped, but the 2017 result shows that this kind of massive decline wasn't inevitable.
@@TheYopogo that's true but this seemed to have been under the condition that corbyn was planning to do something with Brexit and support the north. This is a town that voted heavily for brexit and their support for Labour plummeted with the second referendum plans and you can see this in the massive percentage drop from 2017 to 2019.
The town has been struggling for the last decade for many reasons as well.
@@TackleTackleHeadbutt That's certainly part of it, but there's enough things which don't fit into the picture that there must be other factors at play too.
For instance, 2019 got Labour significantly more votes than both this result and the 2015 election under Miliband, even though Brexit isn't on the agenda in 2015 or 2021.
Leaving aside the consolidated Tory-Brexit Party vote, Between 2019 and 2021 Labour's own vote went down a massive 9%.
So it can't just be Brexit; Starmer specifically is doing something very wrong.
The problem with the by election is Hartlepool is that Labour still controls many similar White working class seats like that, which are trending Conservative. It means they have more room to fall, which seems impossible given how low they already are.
Without attracting White working class voters, Labour can never win a national election again. There aren't enough BAME people and middle-class people in the cities to compensate for this loss.
@@jonizymberi6787 This idea of precarious diverse workers in care sectors and low paid work in cities, and "the white working class" being two separate groups is just wrong, and so is the idea that living in a city makes you middle class, and that towns in the north don't have loads of middle class people.
There's massive overlap, and lots of people in between.
Most white people in places like London are also working class, and there and middle class people in the North.
That said, it's very true. Places like Hartlepool have been trending away from Labour for a long time; but the idea that its inevitable is just wrong.
It's a result of the political choices Labour's leadership are taking.
Again, Labour gained a huge number of votes in Hartlepool in 2017 at the same time as gaining a huge number of votes in London.
Labour could feasibly put this coalition together and win, long term decline is not inevitable, but they need to get their act together.
Thanks for the video. Watching it from New Zealand with interest.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate the jacob rees mogg laying across the bench dig on one of the last slides
Jeez, just over a year ago the Tories were on top of the world, now look at them, its like night and day. in any case, the Tories have until 2025 to turn it around.
Tories are toasted
I always believe that the second largest party in a country determines how powerful that country is in democracy. Looks like UK is going downhill
I beg to differ, this is a denunciation of Wokism and an endorsement of British Values.
I’m shocked Japan has fallen under the radar for this. The Liberal Democratic Party has only been out of power for 4 years since its founding.
@@Teasehirt no it isn't. There are so many factors to consider, wokeness doesn't even come into the consideration for most people, unless youre a prat.
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Really - You need to get out more.
@@Teasehirt that's pretty much the point I'm trying to get across to you... If you get out more, you'll see this wokeness concern you have exists nowhere in reality, only in your own mind, the internet,and newspaper opinion pieces.
'Wokeness' has no actual impact on you or me at all, but you give it such massive weight when voting.
What actual problems has wokeness caused you? Please enlighten me.
In 2015 Ukip played a similar role that the Brexit party played in 2019. Difference is that in 2017 Labour won over half of the collapsed Ukip vote and in 2021 Labour got hardly any of the collapsed Brexit party vote
That's what happens when you say: F your vote you plebs we will remain in the EU
I agree with the Keir in that interview, Labour has been bickering amongst themselves for years now so it's unsurprising that the public wouldn't trust them to organise a piss up in a brewery.
It is much deeper than that.
Unlike the Tory party which has been a beacon of stability and consensus. It's all bollox, the Tories are winning in England because many people in England like Boris and they don't particularly like Kier, they don't hate him like they did Corbyn but he's just meh where as Boris as right lad. Labour need a charismatic leader that people like, that's the only way they will ever win. That's the only way anyone ever wins elections now.
Keir has not been able to form an effective unifying narrative though, his entire platform up until now has been "i am electable". I have a lot of opinions on Blair, but he got elected because he represented fundamental change, to a smaller extent the same happened in 2017. If labour doesn't end these internal squabbles, and starting unifying around a platform, this wont change.
"Labour has been bickering amongst themselves for years now" He's been actively purging the party of left-wingers, so he created most of that "bickering".
@@archvaldor yeah the bickering is mostly self sabotaging right wingers in labour conspiring against the "woke stazi" of Momentum (even though momentums policies have been nore popular among labour voters). if you dig into it, it was largely right wing insiders that sabotaged Corbyn and turned him into this fictional anti semetic boogeyman. The man was on old jam making granddad who had been pretty consistent in his politics since he got into it and the character assassination on him was pretty thorough.
When you make a Knight of the realm leader of the Labour Party! 😂
An a Queens Consul
Weirdly, while we're used to our honours system being utterly corrupt, Starmer's was for actually helping the disadvantaged. Look into it, rather than dismiss it offhand.
Its worth considering for Hartlepool the collapse of the Labour vote, the Tory vote was almost identical to Labour 2019, but Labour's vote was halved.
I don't think there's a shift to the right, more that there's not a left party to vote for/feel inspired by.
Great content mate, well done 👏 ✔ 👍 👌 🙌
Vast numbers will never vote labour whilst a remainer is leader of the Labour Party
The pro-business labour lost. Shocker.
Are you saying profit margins are not the most sexy thing in politics?
Starmer's policies include increased union power, higher taxes and increased business regulation. Not exactly pro business.
@@danielwebb8402 this is what he specifically said though
I'm so impressed you made this video so quickly
I think the Tories need to be careful, as a Scottish person who doesn't like the Tories the more power they get the more I support independence. And it's pretty clear when you look to Scotland that we've rejected the Tories as they've only achieved 20% of the constituency vote across Scotland.
You can’t just keep getting referendums until you get one you like
@@Ueiksg there's going to be a large pro independence majority in holyrood (bigger than before) and that's not going to back down, there's almost certain to be a referendum on the issue within this decade and if the Tories keep soaking up power in England then independence is going to win it
‘The tories need to be careful’ what so your saying that the tories need to kamikaze their support for the sake of the Scots 🙄 Scotland consist of 5 million people compared to the rest of the uk that’s nothing Scotland really isn’t as important as you lot like to make out, no offence
@@chs2618 yea I'm aware Scotland is small compared to England, but Scotland leaving the union would send a message to NI and Wales and they would probably both leave as well. This is not what many people in England want and it's certainly not what the Tories want, I'm not saying they should kamikaze their support because that would be stupid but rather than trying to soak up power they should use the power they have to prevent Scotland from wanting to leave not just saying no because democracy will have its way. What Boris needs to do is make the union a place that Scots (like myself) would be proud to be part of, not annoyed about how it works.
@@duncankelly852 Wales won’t leave and NI is only another 1.8 million who already don’t vote for the conservatives.
Starmer isn't fit to shine Corbyn's shoes.
And Corbyn isn't fit to operate a hot dog stand. Let's not forget the only reason Labour held on to his seat was the Brexit Party splitting the over 50% anti Labour vote.
Worth adding that Labour performed well in Wales-the only place in Britain where the leader supported Corbyn.
Problem with that is even in Wales Labour, while still winning elections, have been losing ground. You have to remember much of Wales has supported Labour since Labour as a Party was raised. I am a Valleys boy, and the Valleys have essentially voted Labour, and nothing but Labour, for a *century*. Yet even in the Valleys they are losing numbers. They still retain enough ofa majority to win the elections, but they have lost points even in Labour areas as unflinchingly loyal as the Welsh Valleys.
Of course, this may be down to some local issues, the widening of the Heads of the Valleys road for example, something that has been required for rejuvanation of the Valleys for decades, was not payed for by either the British or the Welsh Governments, but by the EU... Ironically enough. People in the Valleys are starting to realise that the Tories will not offer to spend in the Valleys because they are so staunchly Labour, and Labour will not spend in the Valleys because they literally have not lost an election there in a hundred years..... So no point in them doing so... Why, after all, spend money in seats so safe?
It doesn't take a genius or a 8 minute video to explain that with the brexit party gone the Conservative demographic is no longer split....
Not only that, they went woke, backed pulling down statues, have pinned their party to identity politics etc Yet their core vote disagree with most of this..
Well the Brexit party was apparently there for people who previously voted Labour but could not bring themselves to vote conservatives. I am not convinced it split the conservative vote. I would like to see result of the previous election, to see whether the conservative’s vote grew or stayed the same I doubt that it did not grow.
@@hansfromcongo6322 In the 2017 GE, Labour won with 52.5% of the vote versus the Tories 34.2%. So you are right. Though I guess it didnt take all that long for people that "could not bring themselves to vote conservatives" to all of a sudden vote them.
If people in this comment section are still baffled and scratching their heads about both the Brexit result of 2016, and why huge swathes of the working class have turned against Labour, I'm not sure what to tell you. You must live in some strange bubble universe and have never actually met or talked to the average British man in the street. Hard to believe.
At this point the parties need to stop focusing on brexit and start focusing on after the pandemic. Brexits done and the deal is done. However you feel about it is irrelevant right now. Its in the past and bringing it up over and over (especially for Labour) will just hurt their chances. I myself am a remainer but at this point i couldnt give less of a shit about Brexit. There are bigger issues to worry about
I think you missed 1 issue that in my experience since moving back to UK has a huge importance to people. The labor candidate (who is a Dr no less) apparently supported shutting down their local hospitals A&E/ER. I am concerned about Labor, they just seem lost and the sooner they can finally move on from Brexit the better. I voted remain but I accepted the result, country will be fine out of EU and it’s long past time to start making the future better for the course the voters chose which was out of EU. Honestly it’s been 3 elections since I voted labor, but I’m not opposed to them but they need to come up with policies that help not just the poor (they’re not even doing that atm) but also middle class - and the economic policy needs to be much more centrist. They have an opportunity to take support from greens by coming up with a green deal, with no Corp tax for 10 years in deprived areas for new investment from r&d/tech companies which will a) help environment, b) create jobs in areas of country needing investment and c) deal with the reality of Brexit as a fact of life and work it to the countries advantage. Cnn had yet another terrible story on their website today about UK (they seem to have a policy decision made that is anti-uk) but regardless the story mentioned England becoming a 1 party state which in their usual moronic way misses the point, that said labor really needs to drastically change because the country does need an effective opposition and whilst conservatives have been doing a decent job recently they will eventually screw up bad enough they need thrown out and there needs to be a real party waiting in the wings to take over and right now, I wouldn’t trust labor to run the church social (well, if I was supernaturally inclined and cared about churches that is).
The Labour candidate is a doctor and worked in the hospital throughout the pandemic and continues to do shifts there. As a local GP he and the other local doctors had to work out how they were going to continue to deliver health services with the massive cuts to the local health budget imposed by the Tory government, that is why he was among those who proposed moving the A&E. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good facebook disinformation campaign. Stuff like this is why we're in the state we're in.
It's "Labour" not Labor in this country.
Remember, it’s not the general election yet. Labour needs a new manifesto.
Labour needs a new leader and a return to socialist values and founding principles.
@@ncage2621 no one wants socialist agendas wake up.
Its this ideology that has crippled Labour and its members. They cant get a leader that has a stand in anything because the party members can't agree on anything.
To many left to many right bickering so I stead they sit on the fence on all major policies and agendas.
Until they have a vision left or right they won't have a vision and they won't win
Why vote for a party that can't even put a policy together.
Rip Labour party
Pick a side and go full throttle at least people will now know what they get when they vote
@@ncage2621 Labour wasn't founded on socialism. It was founded on labour rights. In fact, it lost a huge chunk of the working class, especially in the non-union south and Catholics in the north when it did go socialist in the 1930s. Socialism really should have died in the 1940s.... it doesn't work, it's never worked. I can't understand why people haven't worked this out by now.
They need a new leader who is bombastic and speaks without thinking ("He tells it like it is"). People don't care about policies they just get a feeling for a candidate and go on that. Boris is seen as a fun lad. Starmer comes across too educated and serious.
@@ninamimi6622 damn, then I'm concerned for the people who think a political candidate shouldn't be serious and educated...
Surprised you didn’t mention how many councillors they have lost to the Greens. Bristol West could very well give the greens their second MP at the next general election.
Apparently Hendon has moved further north since I was last there.... its on the coast lads
The map they showed is Hendon in London lol
@@XxEpIcFrOzEnzZxxx so definitely not sunderland Hendon hahaha
I still can't get over tiger patel
Fix the swings!
He was targeting swing voters.
You know there's something seriously wrong with Labour when he can win with that video especially with the pose and what it said below him (if you've seen the video you should know what I mean)
@@Paul_Davies
I'd argue there'd be something seriously wrong with Britain if he lost with that video, especially with the pose and what it said below him.
@@Paul_Davies If I am honest I would have voted him in just because of the ending because there is no way that was not intentional
Man, this is some dire news...
Not really, conservatives are better rn. This is the point of democracy my friend
Why would it be, it’s just democracy at work. Nothing wrong with that
Explained? Poor policies, poor MP’s. poor ideas!
Partygate and Matt Hancock's hypocrisy saved Starmer.
Takes full responsibility then sacks two others!
This is what happens when you dont stand for anything. People dont like to hear this... but Corbyn's economic policies were very much popular in these northern areas. Labour's vote share is LOWER than in 2019- so people who are blaming this loss on Corbyn's ghost are completely deluded.
Can someone tell Starmer that Mcdonalds are hiring.
left or right, if you can do so much as even land stalemate (nevermind a loss) against a party which botched the pandemic response and is plaqued with cronyism you probably shouldn't lead a party.
It's not about how well the Tories have done, it's whether you think Labour would have done any better....
No mention of the massiv increase in abstained voters?
A good Portion of Labour simply stayed Home.
About 28,000 people turned out to vote in Hartlepool.
The registered electorate is around 70,000...
shhh! its convenient to forget this and ignore all the spoilt ballots
Outside of London you can live a good life
50% own there property in the North and Midlands
Lots of people in the North are doing fine even with brexit
Most people's lives haven't changed a hair since the vote and probably won't change at all barring complete economic collapse or a major war
This video seemed to almost exclusively talk about Brexit. I think most people (when voting in local council elections) are more concerned with fairly mundane things like avoiding increases in council tax, clean streets, etc. Labour in my area at least don't mention these issues.
Because this video mostly talks about the by-election
This is me
Labour aren't doing too well on a local or national level, and Conservatives are benefiting every time Labour fails. I still don't think that Kier Starmer was the right person for the job.
It's simple.
Sane, regular people don't want millions of migrants from dangerous countries and they don't want to pay higher taxes.
There's a few reasons that weren't brought up:
- We've had Labour in Hartlepool for about 50 years, and one of the massive reasons was the feeling of "being taken for granted" among former Labour voters that led to them initially going Brexit Party as the viable alternative in 2019, and then committing and going Conservative two years later.
- Related, we've had very little investment leaving us with huge unemployment and huge crime rates. Obviously you can blame either party for this, and the Tories are in power (historically parties don't favour the oppositions safe seats), but like TLDR said Ben Houchen is incredibly popular for the investments in Teeside. We've nationalised our airport for 40 million, and we'll be designated a Freeport; people are desperate for the same in Hartlepool, and I personally think it's the beginning of the end for Labour's hold not just in the local area, but on the north.
- On a national level, Labour has an identity crisis; it seems like it can't decide whether to pander to the traditional socialist voters, or the middle ground Blairite voters. The issue is, the working class isn't made up of steelworkers and miners anymore - the votes for the BP in 2019 show that it's disgruntled unemployed working class Brexiteers who are out of work, and want it back. The Tories appear actually able to deliver on that as a united entity, while Labour is still split in that regard. I did hear a number of times as well that Labour appears to be more pandering to the minority issues which has apparently alienated them from the majority, but for Hartlepool this is extremely evident for people who simply are tired of social justice - "at the end of the day, me accepting whatever you've got between your legs isn't gonna put food on the table".
"at the end of the day, me accepting whatever you've got between your legs isn't gonna put food on the table"
Brilliant !!!!
100%, excellent analysis
To be fair "not accepting it" does not put something on your table either. I don't see why one should exclude the other.
@@NAYRUthunder99 That's true! I imagine (it's a quote from a mate to clarify) it's more the feeling of apathy because you can't really go on social media without encountering people talking about social issues, and it's not something that affects the majority of us. Perhaps it's Labour focusing on said vocal minority and those issues, rather than for instance the wider issues that affect us all that have led to people becoming disillusioned with them as representative of everybody.
Ironically I'd say it's the attempt to include everybody that has pushed people (such as a hard Brexit town like Hartlepool) away.
Must be incredibly tough time for you TLDR, at least you've still got Wales and London.
Just wait till Wales starts leaving too
I’m actually in favour of Wales and Scotland leaving the union.
The “Kingdom of England” flying a flag of st George has a nice ring to it.
Maybe if things go REALLY well we can also abolish the monarchy and write a formal constitution :-O
@@sparkymarky7504 English republic would be nice
@Moby Pancake Scotland and NI (reunified with Ireland) definitely would, Scotland could leave tomorrow and be fine. Wales needs work but its economy is growing.
@Moby Pancake every more developed country in debt yeah pancake it's a question of whether or not they can maintain a good GDP which. They can. They can afford 4 NHS's and could pay to rejoin the EU by settling the debt Britain left. Even downing street advisors have admitted that when they thought they were behind closed doors.
All Scotland would have to do is form a union with Ireland which is already a member. No approval by spain needed, that being said the UK is a union, scotland is already. A devolved state it's no where near the same situation as Catalonia. Pretty sure they'd switch to Euros as well.
42.3% turnout in Hartlepool by-election. When turnout is that low, it's almost impossible to actually guage public opinion. The only practical interpretation you can make is that huge swathes of the electorate are disenchanted with politics right now.
That's probably about right for the labour vote after Corbyn pushed the working class away and Boris payed for everyone to sit at home for a year
Sir Keith, knight of the realm, is what went wrong for Labour.
Given his knighthood for being a human rights lawyer. I guess human rights aren't seen as working class these days.
@@timjones2329 knights protect the status quo, and the hierarchy of the deserved poor and the entitled rich. That's their purpose mate.
If he was a decent humans rights lawyer he should have stuck to his day job instead of throwing Labour under the bus and pretending its everyone else's fault.
What a guy.. 😏
In my opinion, labour used to represent the working class. Now they represent students and dole dossers.
It's the exact same thing with the Democratic Party here in the US.
@@myowncomputerstuff I thought every party in the US represent gun crazed loonies
@@benblakesley5871 Pfff, I wish. While in the UK, it seems like the representatives of all major parties make a great effort to "reach across the aisle" and gain support from the other parties' bases, we have candidates here who will write off a good chunk of their opponents supporters as "deplorables" who aren't worth their effort campaigning for *_cough_* Hillary *_cough_*
Perhaps that's part of why my country is so afraid of direct majority-rule democracy, as it'd essentially end up being two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
"What went so wrong"...??? 👏🏻🤣
Does that question even NEED to be asked?
“Labour bothered running.”
Simple as.
It's asked because most people who still vote Labour can't understand it.
The party has become so Anti-UK, and Anti-Citizen that they simply have lost touch with the majority of the people who they think should be voting for them.
Maybe if they could somehow turn their focus inward instead of looking out at the rest of the world they might be able to reconnect, but I doubt that will happen any time soon. Their current direction has too much "Momentum".
@@VME-Brad
Yes, but the same question is asked every time... and every time they fail to learn.
Wokeness, lack of patriotism, extreme socialism, disdain/disrespect for their voters. In a nutshell, the takeover by Momentum.
How did Max Fosh do?
With about a third of votes counted he’s on around 3,100 whilst niko omilana is on 24,600, and Laurence Fox is on 24,200
Obviously not all votes counted disclaimer and all that etc etc
But so far, if his intended aim was to get more votes than Fox, he has failed miserably. currently Fox in 6th place and Fosh in 19th place
@@sonofeast11 Is it surprising he failed so miserably? His videos were just pathetic.....
Niko was having fun and pulled some funny stunts and made some effort. Fosh just turned up outside Fox's office with a couple of music stands and did nothing except awkwardly talk to a cabbie and Jurassic parks, which was so painfully unfunny as the cabby didn't get it at all.
Fox even, somehow, (cause he's a massive prick) came off better at the end when Max was trying to get a rise out of him and Fox was basically saying 'stop bothering me, I'm actually trying to do something, why don't you.' and Max has nothing but his childish bullying tactics to go on.
Literally the only thing he kinda did was rent that car and park by his bus, after that he sent Fox a cake and set up a fake website in his name and made a clickbait that he 'stole the website'.
I'm actually really glad he failed miserably as given the pathetic attempts he made and the poor taste tactics (of just basically being a school bully) he deserved to fail.
@@jonsmith5058 not to mention he stalked that South African model and asked people to find her on national Australian tv.
@@Jay_Johnson Yep, thats all the guy knows how to do to be edgy I guess, stalk people and creep them out.
It's quite simple really, they seem to have forgotten they are supposed to be the working man's party.
Labour don't know what a 'man' is these days, let alone a working one.
Last I heard they were still asking Eddie Izzard.
It sounds like Hartlepool would've been Tory for a while, but because preferential voting isn't a thing, it's been misrepresented. This looks to be a correction more than anything.
Starmer sounds out of his depth here.
3:05 He’s one of us, guys.
All Labour need to do is to stop telling people what to think and shed identity politics.
Starmer...
When a party becomes that which it was set up to oppose it loses in every conceivable way no matter what the result of an election
neoliberalism is ending
go with it.