LM. 22.1 [REACTION] EPICA - Tides of Time (Studio et Live)
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Réaction spontanée à la chanson "Tides of Time", version studio et version live,
du groupe de métal symphonique EPICA.
== Vidéo originale sur le canal de Nuclear Blast :
• Tides of Time
== Video de la version "Live à Moscou 2019" :
• EPICA - Tides of Time ...
Cette vidéo fait partie de la série 'Lectio Musica' commencée en avril 2020.
== Présentation de la série (français et sous-titres anglais) :
• LM. 00. Introduction '...
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One of the saddest song I’ve ever heard, and one of the most beautiful.. although it’s quite dark, it could easily be a world-wide hit but unfortunately most people never heard about Epica and don’t know this gem.
Sad? Well, let's look at the lyrics closely... in 2-3 days!
Guylain Prince great reaction as always! So much fun to experience my favorite band with someone who really appreciates good music and good lyrics and so insightful about them.
Sad song - This is my interpretation and the vibe I’m getting from the song. Looking forward to hear your analysis and interpretation!
@@MrSh0110 The "weird" thing about it is, I know the lyrics are wrought with sadness and loss, and learning to live with it. But somehow I feel an uplifting - or should I say, purifying? - effect every time it rings out. It often brings up tears, but somehow does not leave me heavy, rather at peace. And in awe of Simone, naturally. :)
Big G I think you described it perfectly. Sad & purifying indeed, not sad & depressing.
Anyhow, the emotional depth of the lyrics, music and Simone’s singing is what makes this song so moving.
@Big G and @MrSh0110 : Isn't that a great thread. Big G took the words from my mouth, actually. Learning to live with a loved one being in another world. Sad, purifying, liberating. This is what this song is all about. Thanks for being there, on this journey. Such a blessing.
.. Mark Jansen says. “My favourite song was and still is ‘Kingdom of Heaven’. It has all the elements Epica stood for at the time, but even more so because it is dedicated to my grandmother who passed away while we were recording this album (Design Your Universe, 2009). It will always have a special meaning to me.” And not only to him. “Mark’s grandmother was a very important figure for the whole band”, Simone Simons says. “Her house was our rehearsal space from the beginning of Epica. She always greeted us with a smile and made sure we had everything we needed.” Simons dedicated “Tides of Time” to her, making it a very emotional album for Epica.
Great quote. I did not know that before the ANALYSIS, it is great to know.
An absolute masterpiece of a powerballad that tears at the soul. Proof that metal is not about screaming and noise, it can be pure emotion too.
Metal, and especially symphonic and prog metal, are everything BUT noise. There is a purpose to powerful sound. And when used wise!
@@GuylainPrince Exactly! And this one touched you deep, we could tell
Really deep! I know, I feel and understand every word and the music. To the bone!
Death is part of life, but I am still very angry, defeated and emotional in many different ways, because last november I lost my son. He was only 22 years old and in college. Its unfair to survive your own child. Only since April this year I was able to listen to music again. The music the lyrics and the sound of Simones voice makes me cry when i listen to this beautiful song. The lyrics make me cry , they also bring me comfort, knowing that I am not alone in this difficult process I am dealing with and that I am not the only person in the world who is having a hard time, even though it often feels that way. Thanks Guylain for playing this beautiful song, because i had never heard it before.
Dear friend,
This I understand very well. The death you experienced is not a « normal » way. Have you ever listen to the Stabat Mater from EPICA and Floor Jansen? Hereafter you will find the link. It is about a mother loosing his son. m.ruclips.net/video/EIhd1hoDD_Q/видео.html
@@GuylainPrince thank you, i willen listen to it.🤘
so sorry for your loss...lost my Mom last year and it still hurts..time should help you deal with it...their ballad "canvass of life" helped me deal with my loss a bit...give it a try...be well
You're absolutely not alone in this process. I lost my wife this year in march very suddenly and also still dealing with a lot of emotions. My own parents and father in law, all in their 70's, feel the same as you about surviving their child and daughter in law.
Amazing how Simone sings this song live! It is such a difficult song when it comes to the notes, they are incredibly high, as well as the lyrical content! A real pro she is!
She was. Even in the crappy sound of the live version, she shines. Totally!
This was the song that made fall in love with the band. I had the album "Consign to oblivion" in drawer for 2 years and even though i liked Simone vocals i stopped listening when the growling started. But then ran in this song and it was one of most beautiful and most accurate songs about grieve i have ever heard. I read that Simone wrote this song after her grandmother had passed away who was big support to her. Since i loved the lyrics so much i started paying more attention to them, including the growling. I soon figured out that when the growling is applied it always has function. I have yet have to run in to mindless simple love song of them. The musical arrange are done by Mark Jansen who goofs around a lot on stage and i had hard time believing him to able to do this. Then i ran in to a interview for Dutch visiting him at home. The moment he started to explain on how he build up the arrange layer by layer it all clicked. Actually all their albums are superb.
If you do not mind adding one more song to the list then try "Once upon a nightmare" The song itself is based upon an old horrific Nordic fairy-tale transformed to a Poem by Wolfgang von Goethe (basically the German Shakespeare) called The Erlking (Der Erlkönig) . The musical buildup is like the soundtrack of a movie with of sense foreboding of the tragedy about to happen. The story is about a father racing through the night to get help for his sick son. That, in his fever-state, is having visions of goblin king trying to seduce him to enter the land of the dead. No growling in this song and Simone just sounds divine. The tragic conclusion makes this a piece of art. If you are not having goosebumps by the end of the song i would consult a doctor. :) Beneath you will find the original version and literal English translation of the poem mentioned. But here the link. ruclips.net/video/CPgZmfD5E8Q/видео.html
Erlkönig (Goethe 1749 - 1832 )
Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind;
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
Er faßt ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.
"Mein Sohn, was birgst du so bang dein Gesicht?" -
"Siehst, Vater, du den Erlkönig nicht?
Den Erlenkönig mit Kron' und Schweif?" -
"Mein Sohn, es ist ein Nebelstreif."
"Du liebes Kind, komm, geh mit mir!
Gar schöne Spiele spiel' ich mit dir;
Manch' bunte Blumen sind an dem Strand,
Meine Mutter hat manch gülden Gewand." -
"Mein Vater, mein Vater, und hörest du nicht,
Was Erlenkönig mir leise verspricht?" -
"Sei ruhig, bleibe ruhig, mein Kind;
In dürren Blättern säuselt der Wind." -
"Willst, feiner Knabe, du mit mir gehn?
Meine Töchter sollen dich warten schön;
Meine Töchter führen den nächtlichen Reihn,
Und wiegen und tanzen und singen dich ein." -
"Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
Erlkönigs Töchter am düstern Ort?" -
"Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh' es genau:
Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. -"
"Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt;
Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch' ich Gewalt." -
"Mein Vater, mein Vater, jetzt faßt er mich an!
Erlkönig hat mir ein Leids getan!" -
Dem Vater grauset's; er reitet geschwind,
Er hält in Armen das ächzende Kind,
Erreicht den Hof mit Mühe und Not;
In seinen Armen das Kind war tot.
LITERAL TRANSLATION
Who rides, so late, through night and wind?
It is the father with his child.
He has the boy well in his arm
He holds him safely, he keeps him warm.
"My son, why do you hide your face in fear?"
"Father, do you not see the Elf-king?
The Elf-king with crown and cape?"
"My son, it's a streak of fog."
"You dear child, come, go with me!
(Very) beautiful games I play with you;
Many colorful flowers are on the beach,
My mother has many a golden robe."
"My father, my father, and do you not hear
What the Elf-king quietly promises me?"
"Be calm, stay calm, my child;
Through dry leaves the wind is sighing."
"Do you, fine boy, want to go with me?
My daughters shall wait on you finely;
My daughters lead the nightly dance,
And rock and dance and sing to bring you in."
"My father, my father, and don't you see there
The Elf-king's daughters in the gloomy place?"
"My son, my son, I see it clearly:
There shimmer the old willows so grey."
"I love you, your beautiful form entices me;
And if you're not willing, then I will use force."
"My father, my father, he's touching me now!
The Elf-king has done me harm!"
It horrifies the father; he swiftly rides on,
He holds the moaning child in his arms,
Reaches the farm with great difficulty;
In his arms, the child was dead..
I will have a look to it and come back to you!
Such a beautiful song, think you’ll love it. Simone is an amazing vocalist. 👍
She is. Especially on the live version. Gorgeous!
Salud from Virginia. My wife is from Yamachiche. I went to see Epica in Montreal and this song was my favorite from the show
From Yamachiche to Virginia : quite a journey to find a husband. :-) Welcome in the Trois-Rivières area anytime you want! The weather is as "if we were in Virginia" : hot and damp. My uncle used to rent a beautiful cabin in Virginia to play golf in January and February (not sure about the months). Peace to you!
such a beautiful song. That voice of her is another level, so amazing.
She became exceptional, isn't she? Wonderful!
C'est tellement magnifique que je ne savais même pas que l'on pouvait faire d'aussi belles chansons. C'est au-delà des mots et du ressenti, c'est quelque chose qui nous traverse le cœur et l'âme.
Incroyable, non? Il y a des mélodistes d'exception chez EPICA. Une une excellente expertise d'écriture aussi. Je suis d'accord avec vous.
Ah you finally got to Tides of Time! Such a wonderful song, brings to tears to my eyes every time. Simone at her absolute best!
It did too! I could hardly speak after listening to the studio version.
I'm really happy that you reacted to this song because I think it is GORGEOUS for multiple reasons, but unfortunately it's one of their least known songs. I've been watching some of your videos and I believe that if you like the constrast between Mark and Simone's vocals you might enjoy "The Essence of Silence". Thank you for your work, you're awesome!
Oh, thanks! One of their lesser known?!? Are you serious? WOW! Thanks for the hint. Maybe "The Essence of Silence" is in the list? :-)
@@GuylainPrince i just found your channel today! Perhaps (and hopefully!) it is already in the list :)
:-D
This song is just so beautiful, and it touches so may deep feelings... I can't help but be brought to tears when I hear it.
As you have seen, I was also! Could hardly speak.
I saw them live last year during the Design Your Universe Anniversary Tour and when they played this song I cried
I would have, also! No doubt. What a beautiful song.
Bonsoir Guylain . Que d'émotions fortes nous procurent ces grands groupes de métal symphoniques et vos interventions éclairent et mettent tout ça en relief. Bonne marche sur ce magnifique sentier déjà bien entamé. Amitiés
Cher Gilles, je retrouve cette passion, avec vous tous, de la grande musique rock que je croyais disparue. J'ai tellement aimé le prog, le jazz rock, beaucoup de belle musique. Mais j'avoue que Nightwish et Epica, l'un après l'autre, me font regretter de ne pas avoir connu ce style avant. Depuis que j'ai renoué avec le genre, j'ai découvert plein de magnifiques albums... que j'aurais dû - parfois - connaître il y a 20 ans. C'est une aventure exceptionnelle. Je me sens tellement privilégié!
Maybe you'll be as impressed after listening to floor Jansen, they're friends after all
For me this song represents a deep reflexion to seek peace after lost someone, a moment where you feel out of your body because the sorrow and the anguish cant leave out, but at the end you remember trough the memories a quiet peaceful place to let yourself and your beloved ones rest in peace. Is one of the most beautiful song ever written in the history for me. and i found it just after lost my father, i was alone facing this lost... This along with other songs literally saved me. Thanks for share your beautiful reaction Fray Guylain.
Most welcome, Patricia. It is an exceptional song. In fact, two weeks after, I suggested it at a funeral of a meathead. A complete success : it favours the grieving process.
Merci de nous partager Guylain ! Je suis presque nul en anglais... mais, avec les sous-titres et tes commentaires, c'est extra ! De fait, la mélodie est superbe ! La richesse de l'expérience du deuil dans les paroles donne une intensité. Tu m'amène sur des sentiers inconnus.
Viens écouter l'analyse de la chanson, vendredi, vers midi. Tu vas voir. Ce n'est pas un groupe banal. L'un des membres a fait une maîtrise en psychologie et ils abordent des sujet difficile. Beaucoup de matière à réflexion, même pour nous, hommes d'Église. Je peux te faire des suggestions de chansons que tu pourras aller voir à ta guide. D'en dis-tu?
bonjour quelle chanson magnifique merci de traduire et d'analyser pour nous . l' écriture de leurs chansons et parfaite et que dire de Simone exceptionnel voix d ange
De rien, cher ami. J'apprécie cela beaucoup moi-même. Et très heureux de faire les contacts "métalleux" avec vous tous. Très agréable...
Beatiful! Thank you for sharing!
Most welcomed!
That this and Kingdom of Heaven are on the same album is part of the reason Epica are my favourite band.
You have two greats, right here. I understand. Completely!
wonderful song
Agreed!
Very beautiful! Death is part of life. This touched me deeply. Thank you.
You won't want to miss the analysis. A great occasion to thins serenely about all this. A the occasion is... this beautiful song.
I find them sometimes live better than in a studio. You can hear that in this song with so much emotions.
especially early lives, 2010 aso
A great live version is always a blessing for a song like this. Sadly, I did not find a good live version, for technical reasons. This being said, her performance is "Class-A". She shines beautifully, here!
Coen Janssen the keyboardist is credited for the instrumental part of this song, and Simone for the lyrics. It's beautiful and for me an anthem of life. I love that it's not just a song about losing a loved one but also about accepting that pain and wanting to move on, wanting to be guided through it, she's aware that things happen for a reason and hopes to live with that for the rest of her life. Autumn and winter will always be there, the important thing to remember is that spring will come again someday.
This is an absolute smash, with a difficult topic. This music could serve many other and popular topics. They chose THAT? It is a sign of great creativity doubled with great attachment for the departed. Great, great song! No doubt!
BTW, I looked at the official liste of lyricists and composers. Six persons work on that song. And I will explain how it works so well in the analysis.
Oh wow. I looked for the booklet of the album and it only says Coen but yeah it could be (I'm sure they all participate anyway, maybe Coen was the 'main' composer) www.flickr.com/photos/alineshimi/4040456954
I am a bit baffled! On the TIDAL site, they name 3 persons for the lyrics and 3 for the music.
The girl can sing.
😯
Yup! She can. both the notes, and the meaning of the words.
Cette chanson s'adresse à la grand-mère de mark quand elle était morte
🎶💕👌
Thanks Cornellius. Nice to see you are still around! Enjoying the adventure, still?
oui, Simone est un trésor absolu ... une autre ballade incroyable d'elle s'appelle "toile de la vie" ... vous devriez également profiter de la grande soprano Tarja Turunen, (voix originale de Nightwish) qui a inspiré Simone et bien d'autres chanteurs
... ruclips.net/video/VSMCD39EIMc/видео.html
Oui, je vais le faire!
Beautiful song as all of Epcia. Eveyone should also check Ayreon for example: ruclips.net/video/ZsBKElbl5dQ/видео.html
Maybe you can do a review about Ayreon Guylain? It's another Dutch project (from arjen anthony lucassen), but with international artists.
I don't know if I will ever make an analysis of Ayreon, BUT I will listen to it this summer, during my vacations. It is on my "To Do" list since March, I think! So, I will, certainly !
Hi Guylain, have you been to concerts since becoming a Friar?
Sure! My vacation budget is small, but I manage to go to one or two shows a year. Sometimes a friend of mine invites me.
@@GuylainPrince Epica will be in your part of the world in October, just saying:)
Please, check also Moors by Nightwish
Moors, like in the last record? The instrumental piece?
Guylain Prince yes
I already did and made a reveiw of it (The whole Side B of the Album). Were you aware that I made a reaction and/or analysis of every piece of Human :||: Nature? And even a review at the end.
Guylain Prince I found your review but not reaction for Moirs
Well, you find it, then! Because for the side B, I did not have a reaction. You are right. The day after the official launch of the album, I decided to begin with the second side. Peace!
A real shame about the sound quality of this Live version. I am sure it was amazing at the actual concert. But I was listening to this video and not watching, so I probably only made out a couple of the words in the song, very unclear :( The studio version was much more impressive and emotional to me, where I could actually see the words as well. Look forward to your analysis :)
I kept this version because Simone performance is stellar. Listen to it again, but at low volume and focus on her voice. You will hear clearly how great and emotional she is. And in full possession of her abilities. She is great!
@@GuylainPrince HA HA, This is Symphonic Metal, how could I possibly listen to it on low volume ;)
I can tell you something : all the guys working in sound engeneering have to do that (studio or live), because by the age of 30, they would be deaf. I was on that path and I received a serious warning by 24 yo. Playing and listening music too loud. I had to take care of my ears since. It turned out happily!