That was way back when I was first learning to fly this jet. Worse crash of all. After studying your tutorials I learned to keep the nose up. She’s way easier to land than the Viper but I also learned from your videos to land the Viper successfully as well.
@@TwoBrosRCnothing wrong with showing mistakes. That’s how we all learn. My jet instructor told me not to alpha her. He was wrong. I never hold back my mistakes and always show even the bad. People need to see what can happen. Thanks!!
I love this new format starting with the Viper 70 and now the F16 70, teaching us all the intricacies to flying them and how to get the most out of them! I’d love to see you do this all the way up to the F18s, F15s, F22s, etc
I thought everyone knew this, planes been out forever and it's high-alpha landing profile is well known. Love the plane and it's definitely earned it's place in my RC aircraft Hall of Fame. Just watch out when going to other high alpha EDF jet planes because most aren't as forgiving as this one so don't get burned. One other thing is the main gear are basically typical aluminum struts with a spring inside that are designed to absorb shock loads when oriented straight up and down. When angled like they are this reduces the shock absoring ability and applies a good deal of bending loads so watch out with high alpha landings that they don't drop in like doing a carrier landing. Been there, done that. 😏
Listen to what he says!!!! I got most of my plane experience (not jet experience) with the 80 mm version. No bad stall tendencies, more agile than the Viper 90, and if you don't flare on landings will roll past a 900 paved runaway. Can also fly relatively slow as well (use high alfa and throttle).
Surprised to hear you say this might be easier to fly than a Viper. I don't own any jets and have never flown one even though I was offered a gen 1 Viper to fly and even buy pretty cheap but didn't want to crash it so I passed on the oppty. I do love the red white and blue livery and the belly graphics design on this F-16 but think I am a prop guy through and through. Maybe someday I'll give this one a try?
I got a Freewing F-16 64mm and have no expierience, the only plane I’ve flown was 2 channel. How can I safely turn right or left in the f-16 because using the ailerons and then the elevator seems pretty hard to me (I haven’t flown it jet, just steered on the ground and tried the thrust reverse out.
Always start with a trainer, but in your case I would hop on a sim. Get use to the controls. Use the alerion to bank the plane left or right then use your elevator to turn the plane. Don’t turn the plane too aggressively or you will barrel roll and lose control.
That's CA accelerator. You spray it on CA glue to cause it to instantly cure. Here's a selection of the glues we work with, including spray-om accelerator: bit.ly/StarbondAdhesives Medium CA is usually recommended for foam repairs that are minor like this.
Thanks! The Viper 70 flies more like bigger jets in that it has a strong tendency to drop a wing when it stalls. This is why we recommend it for a trainer jet since it teaches you how jets actually fly. The F-16 is sort of a training wheel trainer - it teaches you to fly the F-16, but the skills you get are still useful.
Depends - what're you looking for? If you want a challenge to fly, try the Viper 70 first. If you want a more docile experience for your first jet, try the F-16 70mm.
It’s really is a well manered jet but I think you’re overdoing it with the easy to fly narrative. It’s still quite fast and to avoid a crash you need to slow it down just right, so that it doesn’t bounce and stops in time. you don’t talk about this much - the crappy rock hard landing gear keep it rolling forever and the nose gear bends like butter. Something with fixed gear is much better for a beginner.
There's an entire segment dedicated to controlling it in high alpha and explicit instructions to learn how to land it like that. 😉 That's how you slow this jet down. And that's why Jon mentioned that it needs to be landed in a very specific manner.
Absolutely not. High angles of attack in a jet and you start throwing Rudder in is how to stall a wing . A rudder in a jet has three purposes in the air.. A small amount is used for coordinating since jet wings are less susceptible to adverse Use Damping to mitigate Dutch roll on a swept wing When landing in Crosswinds transitioning from a crab to lining up the longitudinal axis with the runway Right before touchdown. It is never used to steer the airplane, *especially* at angles of attack
This jet can be steered around with rudder. We didn't say this advice applied to all airframes at all times. We specifically said *this airframe* handles quite well with rudder input in high alpha. Almost every jet that can fly high alpha is steered this way. Trying to change direction any other way will result in a dropped wing. Small amounts of rudder can be used to change direction without dropping a wing, as is clearly demonstrated in the video you commented on.
@williamwallace9427 are you referring to a particular airframe or all? Because using the rudder at high aoa works fine on a number of birds...... same as adjusting approach
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That was way back when I was first learning to fly this jet. Worse crash of all. After studying your tutorials I learned to keep the nose up. She’s way easier to land than the Viper but I also learned from your videos to land the Viper successfully as well.
Happy to hear that! We included our own mistakes too. Everyone makes 'em, after all.
@@TwoBrosRCnothing wrong with showing mistakes. That’s how we all learn. My jet instructor told me not to alpha her. He was wrong.
I never hold back my mistakes and always show even the bad. People need to see what can happen. Thanks!!
nice sound for an electric jet!
I love this new format starting with the Viper 70 and now the F16 70, teaching us all the intricacies to flying them and how to get the most out of them! I’d love to see you do this all the way up to the F18s, F15s, F22s, etc
Already did! The F-16 80mm has a tutorial on how to fly it, along with the F-22 too. :)
Watched all your videos, crashed yesterday anyways 😂
Oh no!
Really good info as most people want a great plane and do not want to crash it. Key points were great !
I thought everyone knew this, planes been out forever and it's high-alpha landing profile is well known. Love the plane and it's definitely earned it's place in my RC aircraft Hall of Fame. Just watch out when going to other high alpha EDF jet planes because most aren't as forgiving as this one so don't get burned. One other thing is the main gear are basically typical aluminum struts with a spring inside that are designed to absorb shock loads when oriented straight up and down. When angled like they are this reduces the shock absoring ability and applies a good deal of bending loads so watch out with high alpha landings that they don't drop in like doing a carrier landing. Been there, done that. 😏
Very nice tutorial! Well done! Your landing skill is superb👍
Listen to what he says!!!! I got most of my plane experience (not jet experience) with the 80 mm version. No bad stall tendencies, more agile than the Viper 90, and if you don't flare on landings will roll past a 900 paved runaway. Can also fly relatively slow as well (use high alfa and throttle).
Nice video, Jon. Thank you. 👍🏻🙂
Great tips......cheers......
I love this plane in RealFlight Simulator. Much better than the Habu.
It's the best sim for beginners
Surprised to hear you say this might be easier to fly than a Viper. I don't own any jets and have never flown one even though I was offered a gen 1 Viper to fly and even buy pretty cheap but didn't want to crash it so I passed on the oppty. I do love the red white and blue livery and the belly graphics design on this F-16 but think I am a prop guy through and through. Maybe someday I'll give this one a try?
It's absolutely easier to fly than a Viper - mostly because it's almost impossible to stall so long as you've got even a little throttle applied.
I got a Freewing F-16 64mm and have no expierience, the only plane I’ve flown was 2 channel. How can I safely turn right or left in the f-16 because using the ailerons and then the elevator seems pretty hard to me (I haven’t flown it jet, just steered on the ground and tried the thrust reverse out.
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Always start with a trainer, but in your case I would hop on a sim. Get use to the controls. Use the alerion to bank the plane left or right then use your elevator to turn the plane. Don’t turn the plane too aggressively or you will barrel roll and lose control.
What was that spray glue you used to repair the wingtip rail?
That's CA accelerator. You spray it on CA glue to cause it to instantly cure. Here's a selection of the glues we work with, including spray-om accelerator: bit.ly/StarbondAdhesives
Medium CA is usually recommended for foam repairs that are minor like this.
Great vid. Thoughts between this and the viper 70mm ? Thanks John
Thanks! The Viper 70 flies more like bigger jets in that it has a strong tendency to drop a wing when it stalls. This is why we recommend it for a trainer jet since it teaches you how jets actually fly. The F-16 is sort of a training wheel trainer - it teaches you to fly the F-16, but the skills you get are still useful.
@@TwoBrosRC thank you
Would you recommend this AFTER the Habu STS or bypass this and go to the Viper 70mm?
Depends - what're you looking for? If you want a challenge to fly, try the Viper 70 first. If you want a more docile experience for your first jet, try the F-16 70mm.
What if the jet doesn't have rudder
Then it'll be more difficult to control.
It’s really is a well manered jet but I think you’re overdoing it with the easy to fly narrative. It’s still quite fast and to avoid a crash you need to slow it down just right, so that it doesn’t bounce and stops in time. you don’t talk about this much - the crappy rock hard landing gear keep it rolling forever and the nose gear bends like butter. Something with fixed gear is much better for a beginner.
There's an entire segment dedicated to controlling it in high alpha and explicit instructions to learn how to land it like that. 😉 That's how you slow this jet down. And that's why Jon mentioned that it needs to be landed in a very specific manner.
Wait…. Did you really just say you use the rudder to steer as you come down final? FFS. Do not listen to this people.
You don't use rudder on approach? It's super important. The left stick isn't just for throttle.
Absolutely not. High angles of attack in a jet and you start throwing Rudder in is how to stall a wing . A rudder in a jet has three purposes in the air..
A small amount is used for coordinating since jet wings are less susceptible to adverse
Use Damping to mitigate Dutch roll on a swept wing
When landing in Crosswinds transitioning from a crab to lining up the longitudinal axis with the runway
Right before touchdown.
It is never used to steer the airplane, *especially* at angles of attack
This jet can be steered around with rudder. We didn't say this advice applied to all airframes at all times. We specifically said *this airframe* handles quite well with rudder input in high alpha. Almost every jet that can fly high alpha is steered this way. Trying to change direction any other way will result in a dropped wing. Small amounts of rudder can be used to change direction without dropping a wing, as is clearly demonstrated in the video you commented on.
@williamwallace9427 are you referring to a particular airframe or all? Because using the rudder at high aoa works fine on a number of birds...... same as adjusting approach