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Well spotted/analysed. I did know I've missed this point hence I worked on generating enough b-roll to eventually create a video on the topic. You are spot on with your insight. I will pin this and hopefully I will find a way to put your thoughts in the spotlight better. It is very good insight.

@@JetSetYourself The the best way to enjoy Vía Ferrata is to make safety Number 1 Priority. I see videos of people doing Vía Ferrata without a helmet, without gloves, moving the Kit Carabiners two at a time what are they thinking. Look how cool I am? If you fall or injure yourself in some way doing unsafe movements or taking short cuts, the resulting is not an "accident" it's an "inevitable." You have so many great vids JetSet I don't know if you've ever done one on the different types of carabiners and the pros/cons of them. You go into an outdoor shop and the walls are full of different types of carabiners with different locking mechanisms. Oh my Goodness!!!! 🙄 I have a double locking carabiner that took a long time to learn to operate it with one hand. Keep up the great work JetSet. Love your shirt!!!!

@Mr4Strings good idea. I did not though about it. I have so many carabiners, for sure I could make a video about it. Oh, this will be a very long video. Very good your idea. Actually, good the insight on the safety. I will create one more video about that as well. Thank you. Thank you. Is a rare shirt. I wanted to buy more but they are very hard to find. I have to drive deep into Romania and find someone that makes and sells them. Thank you for the appreciation. It helps. Makes me smile. Positive vibes.

On easy segments where you can maintain control no problem your technique will work without any issues. If you tackle difficult segments you start realising that carrying the Via Ferrata Set like this gets in your way and puts you in danger of falling. I do it sometimes when I feel like rushing through the route for one reason or another but as a good practice I leave them behind and focus on solving the exercise. On extreme verticals or overhangs doing what you do will be a real risk of falling. There is no guarantee that the hand carrying them up is the one you will be able to use for rest. If you have to change hands then they will drop. They become a distraction. If you have to fast switch hands to hang there again, they will drop. It served at nothing dragging them after you

@@JetSetYourself Thanks a lot! I did Grota cu Hamace today and it was much better just letting the lanyard hang, even though the carabiners did get stuck a few times. The grading of these routes seems weird though. Grota cu Hamace (rated B) was mostly vertical with very little room for error, and the consequences of a fall would have been severe. But Sky Fly (rated C) was a quite forgiving scramble up a slope on a cable with very little danger.

The short answer is elongation, which significantly impacts safety and efficiency in rescue situations. Dynamic ropes are designed to stretch under load, typically absorbing energy to protect climbers during a fall. However, this very stretch can be problematic in rescue scenarios. When you're hauling someone up, a dynamic rope can elongate by 6-10%, meaning a large portion of your effort goes into extending the rope rather than lifting the person. This reduces efficiency, making it harder to pull someone up safely and predictably. Lowering someone using a dynamic rope introduces even more risks. As the rope stretches under the weight of the person, it can cause unpredictable slack. This makes it difficult to control the descent smoothly, especially with the Munter Hitch, which is highly sensitive to changes in rope tension. If the rope elongates suddenly, it could lead to jerky movements or even cause the Munter Hitch to slip, compromising the safety of the person being lowered. Additionally, dynamic elongation can induce rope bounce, further destabilizing the operation and increasing the risk of an uncontrolled descent. In rescue situations, static ropes are preferred because they have minimal stretch (typically less than 2%), offering greater control, predictability, and precision. This is especially critical in technical rescues where smooth, controlled movement is essential to avoid further harm to the victim. The longer answer? 1. Minimal Stretch: Static Rope: Static ropes are designed to have minimal stretch (usually less than 5% under load), making them ideal for situations where precision and stability are required, such as hauling or lowering someone in a rescue scenario. Why it matters: In rescue operations, you want to avoid excessive stretching because it can lead to inefficient or dangerous handling of the load (the person being rescued). Minimal stretch ensures that all the force applied goes into lifting or lowering the person, giving you better control. 2. Efficiency in Hauling: Static Rope: Because static ropes don't stretch much, they are more efficient for hauling loads. Each time you pull, you move the load directly without wasting energy in the rope stretching. Why it matters: In rescue situations, especially when time is critical, you need every bit of your effort to translate into lifting or lowering the victim, which static ropes do better. 3. Predictable Performance: Static Rope: Static ropes offer consistent and predictable performance under load, which is essential when precision is needed, such as positioning someone safely or when mechanical advantage systems are used. Why it matters: When performing rescues, having predictable rope behavior makes it easier to manage complex systems like pulleys or prusik knots, ensuring smooth and controlled movement. 4. Dynamic Ropes are Designed for Fall Absorption: Dynamic Rope: Dynamic ropes are made to stretch significantly to absorb the shock from falls in climbing scenarios. This is crucial for protecting climbers in case of a sudden drop, but it can be detrimental in rescue scenarios. Why it matters: In a rescue operation, the last thing you want is a rope that stretches unexpectedly. If the rope stretches during a lowering operation, it can cause instability or even lead to a fall if it elongates too much. 5. Safety in Vertical Lifts: Static Rope: For vertical rescues or when you are lowering someone over an edge, static ropes provide a stable, consistent descent without the bouncing effect that a dynamic rope’s stretch can cause. Why it matters: In vertical situations, a bouncing rope could cause the victim or the rescuer to lose balance or control, making the operation riskier. Conclusion: In summary, static ropes provide better control, efficiency, and stability, which are essential in rescue and hauling operations where precision and safety are critical. Dynamic ropes, while excellent for absorbing shock in climbing, are not suited for these scenarios because their stretch can cause loss of control and make the rescue process less efficient.

I don't always carry with me as well. But then, having the knowledge helps when others to but don't know how to use it or most frequently, cannot do it for various reasons. I was last winter on the mountain winter mountaineering. A group of people, with just one guide. He needed help to be assisted with a Munter Hitch to then have all the climbers one by one assisted the same. Their rope, my know-how and assistance. It is good to be able to help and keep someone safe on the mountain.

@@JetSetYourself wow not a well trained guide

Via Ferrata Cala del Molí not far away from Barcelona

I will need to know with precision what Meindl high ankle waterproof boot you have to provide a better view on their performance. As a rule, the sole has to be rigid or hard. Hard is better. Definitely above the ankle and with some sort of waterproofing capabilities. The sole should stick to the rock and metal (if you do the climb by Via Ferrata) and behave properly in wet conditions. The minimum from the video on the channel I recommend the Salomon Quest or the La Sportiva TX5. If you can go with a La Sportiva mountaineering boot is even better but they cost tone of money (for just one climb maybe they don't justify the cost). Remember Above the ankle Rigid or hard sole Waterproof A sole that sticks to the rock even in wet conditions

Rangers are definitely not equipped for mountains like the Alps or anything alike in Europe. Of course they have their own rock formations and challenges that they handle as per culture and expertise

We all start from somewhere and eventually get better. He is now well trained and perfectly capable to climbing difficult routes. He was open minded about it understanding the risks and mistakes. From there he kept working to improve and not repeat again.

Safety is relative to context. Yes in certain situations is perfectly safe, in other, not. There are many factors impacting safety while attempting to rest into the Via Ferrata Set. As a general rule, it is safe. It also is safe to use the shorter loop (where you have the lanyards of the Via Ferrata Set fixed to clip something that will serve for resting. Same discussion could be done here as previously. Is it better to have a separate resting system? Not necessarily. It again depends on multiple factors.

I could not say it better than you. Thank you for the great share from the perspective of someone who actually been there and lived the experience.

If you fall and the shock absorber gets deployed you through away the Via Ferrata Set after you cut the lanyard with scissors to make sure nobody will make the fatal mistake of recovering it. Probably you can salvage the carabiners.

@@ViaFerrataCH That's true. On the Half Dome just 2 (or even one, if needs be) static lanyards with HMS (or larger) carabiners would work fine. It is not a sharp angle and the way the safety cable is attached to the poles have some slack/give, so it wouldn't be a static fall. Loosing control would result in a slip, that's all that needs to be stopped.

@@JanosLenart The problem might be hitting someone behind you...

When you go, remember that it is enough to clip only one of the Via Ferrata Set elasticated anyards at a time, one after the other. This for sure will make it faster to advance. To explain. Don't use just one lanyard. Alternate; clip one and let the other one dangling, then when you reach the anchor point clip above the bold (on the ascent) or below the bolt (on the descent) the one that is dangling (not connected) and only after disconnect and let it dangle the one that was previously connected. In this way you are at any time connected and also keeping it fast to advance. I've see în videos people using just one lanyard of the Via Ferrata Set but doing so is not 100% safe because when doing the anchor point transition you are actually totally disconnected. Will be good to hear from you an analysis on how it was. Me I relied on theoretical assesemt when discussing. But you, going there will make it a practical conclusion. About rappeling, it makes me happy to hear. I never posted about it and how I do it because I guessed people are not that interested but I love it and against what one might think is a discipline in itself not always that easy or straight forward. Maybe I will strat posting. What about you? How do you find it so far? .

@@JetSetYourself well after watching your via ferrata series it just motivated me to get into rappelling as we don’t have much via ferrata in central Cali. I’ve done my research and I’ve got the gear to do it , I didn’t skimp out on any of it and got really good gear. I’ve since lost a few pounds as I know it will help as well. I’m practicing my knots and researching the reason why people die doing it so that I don’t make the same mistakes they did. So far I started rappelling at my kids playground and very short distances and ive since graduated to climbing trees and rappelling from them. My highest tree was about 30 feet up and everything worked very well and it’s super fun. I made sure to test all my systems before taking off my position anchor so that I knew for sure the thing would hold me. I’ve also researched the safest way to use an anchor and the best knots to use. I’ve also got a Petzl Tibloc ascender and I’m gonna practice getting myself up in case I need to go back up for whatever reason, and also how to safely pass a knot in the rappelling rope. I made sure to get a very good static rope and a very good Team Wendy SAR helmet but that’s on back order so I don’t actually plan on going big until I get the helmet in a couple weeks. Recently I’ve been looking into canyoneering as that looks like a lot of fun so I may try that someday. I’m also looking into possibly hiring a guide to accompany me on my first big rappel and or half dome so that I don’t need to go alone and that I can make sure I don’t screw up. Anyways I thank you again for inspiring me to get more into this stuff, and I’ll keep you updated on how the via ferrata set and those techniques you teach are working. My ultimate goal is to rappel from El Capitan and Yosemite falls but that’s a long time from now as I still have a lot to learn. Thanks again!!

Let's chat more on all these topics. I just did canyoning the other week. I always loved it. I advise you to book with a guide right away. You will love it. Rappel wise, use at the start until you get better a safety line as well (with a fall arrested assisted device that will catch you in case you lose control). It gets a bit more expensive but you are full proof protected. Definitely if you can go with some guides to learn the terrain, their practices and exercise yourself. If you can afford, nothing wrong doing it. Climbing trees is a great idea. Let's chat more about it!

@@JetSetYourself absolutely I’m definitely learning to use a Prussik and with a grigri. Thank you for your reply.

Sorry, please explain what was wrong and what does it mean correctly?

​@@JetSetYourself I have noticed when using the Ferrata Bloc that if the cable is thick the tip of the "gate" tends to catch on the cable, preventing it from closing properly. (You can actually see this happening in your video). Consequently, the ferrata bloc will simply "pop" off the cable when any weight is applied to it, especially if there is a little bit of sideways force. This gave me a couple of scares the first time i tried it 🙃 Now I always double check that the gate is completely closed before I put any weight on it. I really like the Ferrata Bloc after getting used to its "quirks", but I can see more than one way it could cause a bad fall if used "incorrectly" (but that goes for most gear I guess).

Thank you for such comprehensive, well spoken comment!

Yes, yes, yes. 😜😂😊

It depends on your usage. If you know you need something reliable and use the headlamp frequently then most probably rechargeable and replaceable is best. If your average time before next charge is 7h probably you can go with the built in. For my case built in works. If for extreme cases I feel I need more I make sure for emergency I can plug and charge while using (if not raining) or otherwise cary a second headlamp to use while charging the primary I use. Niw, what I've seen for my case, I never need high intensity. Actually, to explain, I need power beam for proximity when I get disoriented and lose the path. The headlamp works but not really. Because usually I am in areas with bears and wolfs I carry a tactical torch and I use that for high intensity beam. In this way, the BD lasts forever. On climbing trails, I only need to see the trail sign. While in some countries they are well marked, in others they are not but to be fair, in the Alps usually they are well groomed paths easy to stay in them without getting lost. Because of this, I don't need high intensity touch on the head that could consume more power. Now, even if I have the tactical which I only occasionally have with me when going in specialised trips, usually I need an all around headlamp and BD does that well. But again, I usually get all I need from the main and secondary. I always have a secondary with me to give to people that don't have one. See your usage scenario. I will say there is a reason the market did not evolved to more than what it is and also why Petzl is focusing more on fashion and random features than performance. People like the colours, to replace with a new model, have some sort of feature that makes them think less. My issue with Petzl is the lack of blue/green/red on the majority of their headlamps. For me that is critical. Many times I have to stay as invisible possible on the trails and the RGB leads help a lot. Let me know what you bought and how it works for you. Will be good to know.

I somehow identify with you. The main reason I like Via Ferrata so much and spend so long on various routes where I keep returning is because I don't need a belayer but still feels like rock climbing (or at least I get to do some of the workout) plus I get to climb sides of the mountains that are just amazing. Then, when I cannot go on Via Ferrata or as you say, winter time, if I don't go to the swimming pool in London I go to climbing gyms with autobelays (crazy expensive unfortunately). Let me know when you are ready for K5 and more and what Via Ferrata you aim climbing. Will be interesting to know and follow you.

I don't think you are getting smaller size. The pouch they provide with the belay kit is the same for both (I think). Weight wise? I added to mine 4 more carabiners (I have 5 in total). It is heavy when I clip it to the utility loops but then I forget about it (same with the backpack always too heavy). Now, your question is a tough one. Versatility vs weight. I prefer both. I would've never bought the 15m but I do see its efficiency. 15 should be enough for most cases on Via Ferrata as long as you don't use it to break someone on a zipline of 20m long 😂 25m on Via Ferrata becomes long. I see myself using the entire length only on extreme cases where I cannot ancor myself closer to the person in trouble which anyway makes the whole situation ify (a lot can happen on the 25m and you have to manage the rope in way different ways so that you can stay effective).

@@JetSetYourself thanks for the quick response. Up to now I've been using 8.5mm 30m rope & Reverso without a pouch and it isn't exactly comfortable. So I am looking for something with less hassle when securing someone for a longer ferrata part.

@lubomirmakky2283 the belay plate from the bekay kit will provide more comfort in handling when belaying up (it automatically blocks). Lowering people, not that fun but for sure not that hard. I think, if you find the kit at a good price then just buy the 15m (this if you want to move away from using the munter hitch and would like a new pouch or a pouch). If you want to spend the minimum because you are experienced and if you don't necessarily want the autoblocking feature probably is best to just buy only a shorter rope. Either way, more than 15m I think is too much anyway.

Did you do it or returned home?

@@JetSetYourself -1680m in the rain

In the hope that nobody is reading this and make it a spoiler, Hans Kammerlander will get it's own video and is the reason why I will record the next Via Ferrata mini RUclips series. The spoiler? Hans Kammerlander is the Via Ferrata of the year! I scheduled a return to record even better and more hence postponing the initial video edit.

@@JetSetYourself great, i can't wait to see this video💪😎

Very good your comment. Well drafted. On point. I have the Climbing Technology triple swivel and I can confirm triple is better than anything else.

Please pass me the exact model name of your Via Ferrata Set so that I can see what are you asking about with precision. I can already answer your question but best if I can do it tailored to your case.

@@JetSetYourself It Is edelrid ultralite VI (probably VI, not written in the manual, based on internet images). Can I also use quickdraws from there to rest? I am a climber so I have some of them.

Long story short, yes, you can use a quickdraw. No issue with doing that as long as a) on horizontal segments you will be able to sit comfortable and the quickdraw will reach and b) on verticals you can take the time to reach rest points properly. What about that loop there? Your Via Ferrata Set has two loops. One large that gets connected to the belay loop of your sitting harness and one tiny loop to which the lanyards of the Via Ferrata Set are connected. You will connect your quickdraw to that tiny loop. What's the story with the shock absorber if you keep sitting into your Via Ferrata Set to rest? It depends on many many factors. To the extreme and in very rare occasions the stitching of the shock absorber will start to rupture and this begins to be a bad sign. All manufacturers advise in case the stitching starts to break, to replace the Via Ferrata Set.

@@JetSetYourself thank you a lot for the answer! I was scared because I thought I needed to use the belay loop to rest because if I rest on the rest loop there is a chance for the shock absorber to deploy.. You are doing an amazing job here on RUclips! Keep on!

You are spot on.

Your definition of a overhang it correct. In the video, without leveraging arms you cannot uphold yourself upright, because the incline of the wall is more than 90 (your fit are going under and the wall is pushing you out on your back). On that segment where I was recording if you want to stay parallel with the wall you cannot because feet are under the wall and the section with the safety steel cable keeps pushing your back out

Don't worry about that carabiner. Will not bother you in any form or shape attached to the "third arm" of the Via Ferrata Set. I many times let the shorter arm of my Ypsilon resting system to dangle. It is short enough not to get in my way (most of the times).

What a story. What empowerment to your daughter. A lesson to learn from. Amazing. I hope the adventure was as expected and more.

Thank you 💪

Yes. You can. It is enough to lift the other loop (you have two loops) and the climber below will be lowered (by lifting the other loop you give slack practically). Of course, is not as easy as using an ATC or any other rappel device because the purpose of the plate is to auto block but if you want to lower someone, you can.

@@JetSetYourself Good to know, thanks for the quick reply!

Connect a static lanyard to your sitting harness belay loop at one end and to the other end add a carabiner that you will clip to the loop of the pendulum. Then, for redundancy if you don't have other redundant system at hand provided by whomever built it, clip the carabiners of the Via Ferrata Set to the pendulum as well.