I think you perfectly got the point with the car example. This Saturday I were at "parco delle fucine di casto" in Italy, a Place where you can rent the complete kit for just 8 euros and there are some via ferratas and a lot of people just walking in the park and swimming in the river. That day a person fell from 50 meters (badly injured but alive it seems) from the rock to a tree just because he was too tired during a via ferrata and tried to exit in a random place in the middle of the ferrata where clearly there were no exit.. the problem here is that people see they can rent the harness and say "ok I can try it seems for everyone" but they dont really understand the risks and the safety rules behind. I agree that rock climbing have more degree of difficulty, but there is a lot of risk involved in via ferrata and for some reason people have an harder time understanding the risk involved. This is just my opinion as a beginner in both rock climbing and via ferrata. PS. I appreciate your job and I can get your passion for the sport and your care for who want to get into it.😊
I was on my way to Europe to try Via Ferrata for the first time with a stop over in Canada for Mountain Biking (I live in Australia). I had a big mountain bike accident and ended up in the hospital for 10 days so no Round The World Trip for us! 10 months on, I’m still recovering, back on the bike but my crushed T12 has caused stomach nerve damage. Anyhow, I love watching your videos because in the next year or two, I will get to Europe to try Via Ferrata and I hope I can find a guide like you. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. You inspire me.
I have been practicing rock and ice climbing for quite a long time and I have to say that, on the contrary most people think, any via Ferrara is way more dangerous than any comparable traditional climb. You only have to consider all the iron steps and handles that are waiting under your climb. If in a fall you hit them your are going to be seriously injured not matter the length of that fall. Vías Ferratas give a false sense of easiness due to the security cable and the abundance of steps and holds.
Via ferratas are great fun, but you need to handle it with a " falling is strictly forbidden" mindset. Your safety device will stop a fall if can take. But it will absorb all the energy within 2.5 m of sling at best. All the rest goes into your body and foremost your spine. So yeah, this can cause severe herniated discs and even broken vertebrae. As a sport climber it is great fun though.
VF is indeed deceptively easy right up until the moment you fall. I have never fallen on my lifeline , but what do you do afterwards? You have to find an exit or finish the route right? Is it wise to carry a backup life line? Thanks for the video and any tips are welcome Greetings from Belgium ;)
I think that is true if you are fall it is more dangerous, but falling on a via ferrata is not an option, you need to know your abilitis, and i think it’s much more harder to fall because you always can hold the safety wire. But if you complitly tired and you can’t move up or down you f**ked. Great videos, keep it up!
First of all, I love your channel and your videos! I have a question - what is your opinion about doing via ferratas alone? I assume you are doing them mostly alone. When was the moment when you decided that you felt confident enough to do them on your own? I guess there is always a risk of getting yourself into a situation, where you might need some help, but not necessarily call rescue. Or am I wrong? Best and thank you!
Thank you, thank you ♥️! It makes me happy knowing that you love the work I do. It is my motivation. I do Via Ferrata alone since day one. But, I also know that at any point my next trip can also be the last or one that ends with trouble and I get out of it only after huge struggle. Please understand that the mountain as watter and sky are veritable killers. You never know if you will return. Not even when you go with company. It is why skydiving, high altitude mountaineering, freeriding, Via Ferrata or rock climbing are considered extreme sports. Extreme sport means high probably of death. If you do it alone, this probably grows exponentially. I have with me many tools for self aiding and a Garmin InReach. But this does not mean ensurance. It is only me t to boost my chances in case of something. So far? Some things happened but nothing bad. The single time I had to call for help was in Australia and the reason was relying on a partner who did not help and I ended up exposed and I had to call for help. Going with a partner on a Via Ferrata can help if a) he or she knows what to do, has the gear and can do something to help or b) you cannot but they can call for help. Calling for help depends on where you are. On some routes there is no cell coverage. In this case the other person has to complete the route and then go back to the car and cell reception area and then call for help. It is many variables. Of course, at glance, it is better to go in company than alone but obviously this is not certainty that all will be good. It only can help and may save your life. Nothing more. Another odd in the probably game. And as any odds is best to have it and take advantage than not to. For my case it is a matter of risk assessment. I consider now going on some extreme routes. I know I need more training before attempting to climb them alone. It is a matter of training while I do understand that I can either get into big trouble or it ca be fatal. I'm single with no kids and wife at 44. It is one of the reasons I evaluate risk like this. If I would've been married with kids for sure I would've been even more cautious. Even so, I avoid dumb decisions and get myself into idiot situations. I go prepared, with extensive training, after careful consideration. I solo climbed Gran Paradiso. I wanted to do Mont Blanc as well but eventually I decided that I don't find any pleasure in doing so. The risks are higher than the benefit I could get by doing it. So, I reverted. I'm in general risk averse. Don't usually take too much chance. I do understand that I can get into trouble on Via Ferrata. Big trouble. There is always someone knowing where I go and if I don't check-in at the time I say that person will send help after me. Now, with Garmin InReach they also can see my progress. Still, is better if you have someone with you. In my case, I don't. It also happens that I usually am the one more experienced in the group and always helping. Leaving g the help aside. The thing is that through my situation there is nobody that can join me so, I eventually have to make a choice. Now, I also have a past of always being alone and on my own in life. I have a predisposition to figure thing alone and not let being alone stop me from living. It is many, many factors. Maybe I will speak about it into a video.
@@JetSetYourself Thank you so much for such a great and detailed response! In my opinion, a video would be a good idea. As you mentioned there are many, many factors. I am divided since I saw a girl fall on the last section of Monte Albano, but because she was with a group, we belayed her to the top. On the other hand, my recent summit of Aconcagua was completely interrupted, because people wanted to go home earlier. Btw. Gran Paradiso is so much fun and doing it alone is really nice! I would be scared on the first section after the summit, though :D
Can you tell where you bought the rubber stops for the carabiners? And are they easy to remove? I face a similar issue, though I have a different kind of rubber stop, which goes inside the loop, where you have to push the carabiner through. Removing the rubber from the carabiners is nearly impossible after that, which is why I stopped using it, as I'm packing the carabiners and the resting system separately and occaisonally use the carabiners for other things too.
i have some from Ocun called „Biner“ i dont know if the ones in the video are the same but they look the same 😄 and yes you can remove them any time you want but because the dont slip so easly (because of the function they are built for), it is sometimes a little bit hard to slide them all the way around the carabiner 😄 but they are easyer then others i have tested
I don't remember from where I bought it. www.singingrock.com/quickdraw-rubber-fix has it. Kong as well. Based on your location try in your language search for "quickdraw rubber fix". I don't remember from where I bought them. I checked in the order history. Could not find with a quick skim and scan. I will search more. As the other comment says, they can be removed relatively easy (but not that easy). The only downside is that after a couple of times they might break. I also have the ones you have. Once fixed on the carabiner ar impossibile to take out. I hate them and avoid using them.
I think you perfectly got the point with the car example. This Saturday I were at "parco delle fucine di casto" in Italy, a Place where you can rent the complete kit for just 8 euros and there are some via ferratas and a lot of people just walking in the park and swimming in the river. That day a person fell from 50 meters (badly injured but alive it seems) from the rock to a tree just because he was too tired during a via ferrata and tried to exit in a random place in the middle of the ferrata where clearly there were no exit.. the problem here is that people see they can rent the harness and say "ok I can try it seems for everyone" but they dont really understand the risks and the safety rules behind. I agree that rock climbing have more degree of difficulty, but there is a lot of risk involved in via ferrata and for some reason people have an harder time understanding the risk involved. This is just my opinion as a beginner in both rock climbing and via ferrata.
PS. I appreciate your job and I can get your passion for the sport and your care for who want to get into it.😊
Thank you for such comprehensive, well spoken comment!
I was on my way to Europe to try Via Ferrata for the first time with a stop over in Canada for Mountain Biking (I live in Australia). I had a big mountain bike accident and ended up in the hospital for 10 days so no Round The World Trip for us! 10 months on, I’m still recovering, back on the bike but my crushed T12 has caused stomach nerve damage. Anyhow, I love watching your videos because in the next year or two, I will get to Europe to try Via Ferrata and I hope I can find a guide like you. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. You inspire me.
I have been practicing rock and ice climbing for quite a long time and I have to say that, on the contrary most people think, any via Ferrara is way more dangerous than any comparable traditional climb. You only have to consider all the iron steps and handles that are waiting under your climb. If in a fall you hit them your are going to be seriously injured not matter the length of that fall. Vías Ferratas give a false sense of easiness due to the security cable and the abundance of steps and holds.
Via ferratas are great fun, but you need to handle it with a " falling is strictly forbidden" mindset. Your safety device will stop a fall if can take. But it will absorb all the energy within 2.5 m of sling at best. All the rest goes into your body and foremost your spine. So yeah, this can cause severe herniated discs and even broken vertebrae. As a sport climber it is great fun though.
VF is indeed deceptively easy right up until the moment you fall.
I have never fallen on my lifeline , but what do you do afterwards?
You have to find an exit or finish the route right?
Is it wise to carry a backup life line?
Thanks for the video and any tips are welcome
Greetings from Belgium ;)
I think that is true if you are fall it is more dangerous, but falling on a via ferrata is not an option, you need to know your abilitis, and i think it’s much more harder to fall because you always can hold the safety wire. But if you complitly tired and you can’t move up or down you f**ked. Great videos, keep it up!
First of all, I love your channel and your videos!
I have a question - what is your opinion about doing via ferratas alone? I assume you are doing them mostly alone. When was the moment when you decided that you felt confident enough to do them on your own? I guess there is always a risk of getting yourself into a situation, where you might need some help, but not necessarily call rescue. Or am I wrong? Best and thank you!
Thank you, thank you ♥️! It makes me happy knowing that you love the work I do. It is my motivation.
I do Via Ferrata alone since day one. But, I also know that at any point my next trip can also be the last or one that ends with trouble and I get out of it only after huge struggle. Please understand that the mountain as watter and sky are veritable killers. You never know if you will return. Not even when you go with company. It is why skydiving, high altitude mountaineering, freeriding, Via Ferrata or rock climbing are considered extreme sports. Extreme sport means high probably of death. If you do it alone, this probably grows exponentially.
I have with me many tools for self aiding and a Garmin InReach. But this does not mean ensurance. It is only me t to boost my chances in case of something. So far? Some things happened but nothing bad. The single time I had to call for help was in Australia and the reason was relying on a partner who did not help and I ended up exposed and I had to call for help.
Going with a partner on a Via Ferrata can help if a) he or she knows what to do, has the gear and can do something to help or b) you cannot but they can call for help. Calling for help depends on where you are. On some routes there is no cell coverage. In this case the other person has to complete the route and then go back to the car and cell reception area and then call for help. It is many variables. Of course, at glance, it is better to go in company than alone but obviously this is not certainty that all will be good. It only can help and may save your life. Nothing more. Another odd in the probably game. And as any odds is best to have it and take advantage than not to.
For my case it is a matter of risk assessment. I consider now going on some extreme routes. I know I need more training before attempting to climb them alone. It is a matter of training while I do understand that I can either get into big trouble or it ca be fatal. I'm single with no kids and wife at 44. It is one of the reasons I evaluate risk like this. If I would've been married with kids for sure I would've been even more cautious. Even so, I avoid dumb decisions and get myself into idiot situations. I go prepared, with extensive training, after careful consideration. I solo climbed Gran Paradiso. I wanted to do Mont Blanc as well but eventually I decided that I don't find any pleasure in doing so. The risks are higher than the benefit I could get by doing it. So, I reverted. I'm in general risk averse. Don't usually take too much chance. I do understand that I can get into trouble on Via Ferrata. Big trouble. There is always someone knowing where I go and if I don't check-in at the time I say that person will send help after me. Now, with Garmin InReach they also can see my progress. Still, is better if you have someone with you. In my case, I don't. It also happens that I usually am the one more experienced in the group and always helping. Leaving g the help aside. The thing is that through my situation there is nobody that can join me so, I eventually have to make a choice. Now, I also have a past of always being alone and on my own in life. I have a predisposition to figure thing alone and not let being alone stop me from living. It is many, many factors. Maybe I will speak about it into a video.
@@JetSetYourself Thank you so much for such a great and detailed response! In my opinion, a video would be a good idea. As you mentioned there are many, many factors. I am divided since I saw a girl fall on the last section of Monte Albano, but because she was with a group, we belayed her to the top. On the other hand, my recent summit of Aconcagua was completely interrupted, because people wanted to go home earlier.
Btw. Gran Paradiso is so much fun and doing it alone is really nice! I would be scared on the first section after the summit, though :D
I go back to a VF for the view, difficult ones I avoid
Indeed. You are so right. One of my desires is to rush less and enjoy more. Hopefully this year I get to catch up.
Can you tell where you bought the rubber stops for the carabiners? And are they easy to remove? I face a similar issue, though I have a different kind of rubber stop, which goes inside the loop, where you have to push the carabiner through. Removing the rubber from the carabiners is nearly impossible after that, which is why I stopped using it, as I'm packing the carabiners and the resting system separately and occaisonally use the carabiners for other things too.
i have some from Ocun called „Biner“ i dont know if the ones in the video are the same but they look the same 😄 and yes you can remove them any time you want but because the dont slip so easly (because of the function they are built for), it is sometimes a little bit hard to slide them all the way around the carabiner 😄 but they are easyer then others i have tested
I don't remember from where I bought it. www.singingrock.com/quickdraw-rubber-fix has it. Kong as well. Based on your location try in your language search for "quickdraw rubber fix". I don't remember from where I bought them. I checked in the order history. Could not find with a quick skim and scan. I will search more. As the other comment says, they can be removed relatively easy (but not that easy). The only downside is that after a couple of times they might break. I also have the ones you have. Once fixed on the carabiner ar impossibile to take out. I hate them and avoid using them.
Thanks guys, much appreciated! I'll look around locally, otherwise I see I can order some specific ones online as a last resort!
The "lead and trad climber" should know how falls on via ferrata are more dangerous than falls with dynamic climbing rope...
I don't know what to say. Probably