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A little weird to say Salatin doesn’t mention that he uses off farm grain and craps on the farmers he buys grain from, because he’s pretty open about it. I’ve seen him talk about how he prefers to use grain from a local farmer that uses a pound of atrazine on their fields over having something shipped in without chemicals, because it is a smaller footprint/less damaging to the environment. I’m fairly certain that it is even in Pastured Poultry Profits, which is probably his bestselling book. I DO get a bit frustrated watching all the RUclips farmers that have tons of volunteers talk about how easy stuff like chicken processing day or moving polynetting every day is. As a homeschool mom to small kids (including 2 toddlers currently) with a husband who works full time off-farm, my farm growth is so much smaller, and yes, I STILL have overgrown, weedy pastures in the back that have tons of trash/hurricane debris that I’m 7 roll off dumpsters into cleaning up by hand.

Are you able to make the same video for cattle?

I'm not from the USA, so I won't give an opinion, because I don't have the knowledge to do so. But, as usual, another one great and interesting video !! See ya next monday ?

Earning an income while learning? People are going 6 figures into debt for a college degree so i don't think a couple of years as an apprentice with all food and housing supplied is unreasonable. In Salatins' first books he does say that if you want to extend your farm to the point of needing to hire outside help you need to be able to pay them a white collar income. I think you need to read more of his books before coming to anymore of these conclusions. You are judging him when you obviously haven't done any significant homework.

Interesting video. As Farmer Jessie says, each situation is unique. Take and use what you can on your farm from all the creators you watch. Having a well known farmer with a direct line into the USDA is the first step at turning that ship into a more sustainable direction. Hopefully his influence will change some of the programs toward better practices.

If everyone farmed the way Joel Salatin farms the world would be destroyed and we would have reintroduced slavery. He's a multi-millionaire and depends on free labour. He makes more money selling his grift than he does selling chickens

Well thought out video! You covered (indepth) what I said in my video. Your subscribers are supportive...I received a few rather negative remarks...but oh wells...I appreciate your bravery in speaking out.

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Awesome ! Love 💕 Very informative ! Very scientific lecture ! Your lecture is my chicken raise Bible !

He feeds them and talks about buying their feed regularly in his videos. He isn't denying common sense inputs. And his interns are encouraged to use the farm to their financial benefit while they are there

We have cattle. There is a lot of scrap grain spilled in and around the barn. They do a great job cleaning it up!

Thank you for calling him out! I’m in finance and I’ve watched a few of his videos and none of his numbers make sense. What he is saying is completely unrealistic.

What a silly video.

Only a select few can become rich off of the backs of everyone else.

He has interns. Many of them have gone on to create their own successful farming operations. If you were doing something amazing youth and volunteers would flock to you too. How the heck is that a negative? He buys grain from his neighbors. He has talked extensively about creating supporting neighboring farming systems, where everyone doesn't feel like they have to specialize in everything. This is intelligent, sustainable and resilient. This is one of the most annoying videos I have come across in a long time.

Deciding to take up farming full time is, essentially, taking a vow of poverty while accepting a life at hard labor. But the rest of us are going to starve.

I'm in agreement with you on how the Salatin and Chris flap has transpired. To me, the argument is lost the minute that race card gets pulled out. Seems like a default way to try to win the debate without investing much thought in it.

Love this video, thank you. I will say, however, that I live in Thailand and I raise what were the original chicken, wild jungle fowl. They are the most widely raised chickens here. My hens average 30 eggs per year, so I get 3 batches about every 4 months. I also sell/eat them at about 5/6 months old when they get to about 1kg, about 2.2 lbs. The eggs are smaller than egg laying hens, so it's not viable to sell them, although they are delicious. This is not a criticism, but just FYI. Once again, thanks for your upload.

Thank you sooooo much for teaching ue bow rewarding to keep chickens❤❤❤❤❤❤

Great job on this video. Joel Salatin is a Christian Zionist and did go to Israel to consult the settlements. He refers to the West Bank as Judayeh. We understand the settlements are stolen Palestinian land. It bothers me. He is a communitarian. thecommunitariantrap.blogspot.com/search?q=joel+salatin

On your comment of feeding your hens. I cannot remember who it was but the farmer had a huge compost pile and it was apparently what he used. Anyone else may have seen that before on YT?

Remember, Joel is most likely practicing utilizing the community diversity on feed etc. We all don't have the capability to manage a completely self sustainable plot, maybe the best phrase is Jack of all trades master of none. Even on a small scale we build a community on skills that create. Glad you made this video. It creates the view of why we can't all do it all and what's actually entailed IMO on priorities of one farm to the next.

Sigh. Disappointing video. A lot of nit-picking and many straw-men.

I agree with what you say about Salatin. I have never taken his word as Gospel, and never will. He is just one source, just one opinion. I have my own mind and can have my own opinion about things. Many things that he preaches are a dream scenario that could never work in a real-life application.

Way to use his name for clicks 😂

I think hiring teenagers at minimum wage is completely ethical. They live rent free with their family, food paid for, and they can have valuable work experience to keep on their resume. (This is assuming the normal American teenager)

Interesting, well considering he hasn't put forth any policies yet this definitely was a personal attack. That being said I think it was helpful information to get more context about who he is. But nothing you shared should be justification for why he would be bad at his appointment. Imagine an actual politician being nominated that knew nothing about agriculture... It could be much worse

In actually working with a man that sales direct to consumer from a farm and we are currently talking about farming with direct to consumer in mind. With that being said we are working on ebt and the ability to accept it. People will pay 1500 insurance premiums but not pay 10 to 25% more for they're food very sad state of affairs. I don't see Joel going after big agg I see him getting the USDA off our backs.

I am amazed that you have managed to get criticized in a respectful manner. My main concern is that what Joel Salatin does, works well for his ag zone and climate (and methods), and may not work well elsewhere. Secondly, making a chicken $20 the new normal is not going to go well. Everybody will prefer an unhappy $10 chicken to a $20 happy one. Sorry, I mean "afford" not "prefer". Because, thirdly, food is heavily subsidized already, and changing who gets the money will result in companies going bankrupt, getting magically replaced by others, but people are going to get unemployed, etc.. The food system needs to be changed, for sure, but you need a person with experience and training in making these kinds of transitions, and I don't think a farmer is qualified. I hope for the best, of course, but expect.. you know.. Lastly, I think Joel Salatin has a wealth of knowledge and experience, but sometimes he says some things with no basis in reality, fact, or science. Sometimes, I do too.

You make some great points here. Salatin offers a service in training people to farm and gets labor in return. That isn't a model that will work for most people. However, what would happen if Salatin sticks to his guns? If regulations loosen, how much do small farm profits go up? And what happens if corn and soy subsidies get cut? Do regenerative crops become more competitive if conventional ag has to compeye on a level playing field? You seem to assume that nothing will change with respect to government interference. If Salatin transforms into a politicritter and a system man, then yes, I think you're correct.

This feels like the video where Joel Salatin criticizes RFK Jr for things that they actually agree on lol. You and Salatin have the same mindset. These issues you have with Salatin are issues that Salatin has with the system- the system he will get to advise against when he's in the USDA. Salatin himself says in a perfect world there would not be pastured chickens, he only does that because of market conditions and subsidized grain. He thinks we should be eating majority ruminants and that chickens/pigs are either household livestock or for converting waste like whey. I'm in a major state Ag university and we really need someone like Salatin advising. These professors and policy writers are sickening. They are why the food system is rigged against farmers and that they can't make enough to pay well for labor. I can't fit a whole essay into a comment but Salatin can see what needs to be done to increase revenue so labor can be paid better. Salatin is just playing the system, his summer educational program is a better deal for someone learning farming than a 4-year $40k Ag degree. My fellow classmates have spent most of their 4 years doing farm volunteering anyway. His methods can clearly sustain proper salaries, there are many farmers using those methods who do pay regular rates for labor. It would be helpful for someone like him who knows how to reduce anti-competitive barriers so that they can pay more for labor.

I agree entirely with what you have said here. Joel has unique opportunities and assets to facilitate his experience, but they are not reproducible for the overwhelming majority of people. Nor will he be able to restructure the corrupt industrial food system in any meaningful way. In my opinion, the only food production model that is going to succeed looks far more like your model than his. This country hasn't the political will nor a population that understands what is going to be a grim reality very soon.

Pretty fair critique of Salatin overall. Very interesting video. While I would love to see Salatin institute regenerative reform of agriculture, I'm skeptical that he'll have any real power in the Trump administration. I have a hard time believing that Salatin has donated more money to the Trump campaign than Tyson or Cargill.

I grow many vegetables hydroponically and the chickens love eating the roots and stems that I do not put in compost.

I have quite the peeve with "intern" labor. That isn't just a Salatin thing. It's a pervasive employment model for small farms. But what I'd put to you is the simple question of we have to essentially use slave labor in order to make regenerative ag profitable? And it's not like conventional ag is all that much better. Even there, the profit margins are slim and the risks are dire. I don't pretend to know the answer to any of that, but it is definitely worth asking why food production - which I mean...kinda an important industry! - is so fraught and financially precarious.

I'd very much like to read your thoughts on this subject, but for this kind of subject it's more than I can bring myself to consume in video format.

Thank you for making such a good video. Discussing false or misleading claims is so important. Staying upbeat and not trashing anyone but being clear about were they are not telling the whole truth is such a fine line and you nailed it.

I appreciate Joel Salatin as he was the one who got me interested in regenerative agriculture. That being said, I view him as a "stepping stone" from traditional methods to regenerative methods. Yes, he uses cheap labor, but those people want to work for him but are unskilled and thus are not as productive as long-term skilled employees. Yes, he buys off farm grain, but he also has some stipulations for the grain farmers as to how they raise said grain. Yes, he sells his stuff at "crazy high" prices, but he is competing with artificially cheap subsidized products, and that's what he needed to do to keep his farming dream alive. He isn't really the best example of a regenerative farmer. Personally, I feel like Mark Shephard, Greg Judy, Curtis Stone (and all the Elliot Coleman proteges), or even Gabe Brown are better examples for the bootstrap, first generation, regenerative farmer. Joel is just better known because he has focused on media rather than just getting stuff done. Everyone has their flaws, but we can learn from anyone, even Joel. Personally, I'm more worried about him being compromised by folks in DC.

It's your prerogative to be skeptical, and it's mine to disagree.

Farming is hard, intense, expensive and requires a ton of generational knowledge. Your point about having to buy grain but not including that in the calculation is absolutely right. Also, not breeding animals or raising babies? Well, that's not sustained agriculture then. It's cheating. That part alone is so, so much work and worry and time. Love your content. Never apologize. ❤

One of my Blueskies goals for what I wanna do is find a way to build for sustainability in city settings. And it includes notes on public gardens to provide food, and how to set them up to work in below freezing temperatures. It's a blue skies concept because having the $ to build it is not something I forsee me having, or being able to get the funding for. But even having said that, I did not plan on the design being a replacement for the historic building or agriculture we have. Just an alternative.

I think the only reasonable option would be have the livestock grow thier own grain. If you cut hay for winter then your sheep/chickens can mow down the garden and lay hay leftovers all fall and winter by eating hay and spilling the stalks. Come spring all you do is plant multiple layers. Peas on corn on potatoes. Hay and poopies take care of watering, weeding , nutrition so you can go cut hay. Repeat this process expanding the hay mulched garden each year. Animals can self harvest and or a person save and grind . I think at some point as the garden expands each year because of the compounding nature of hay gardening there will be a tiping point where there will be enough grains for the years.

I dont have any land, I don't have a wife and kids (especially that are old enough to help) I don't have anything but I still want (dream mostly as I try to save enough money of buying my own land) So it dawned on me one day after listening for many years people talking about how they do this or do that. From raising chickens to cattle, crop rotation methods the whole nine yards. I realized that we as open eyed Americans today are trying to work against big Farm culture, Big Pharma, Big this Big that Big everything from scratch. I looked at America when we were a colony. People were coming in after nearly 3 months at sea, weak, sick and barely hanging on to start a homestead. Well they also had others who came before them and got things started. We also had the local Indian population who saved our bacon (We celebrate that time in a few more days, Its called Thanksgiving Day, remember?) But we don't have that today. What we have is those BIG agencies working against us because we are a threat to their plans to make money. Not just make money, I am talking BIG MONEY. So they are in a far greater position to cause us to fail that we are to succeed. This is not meant to shut anyone's dream of restoring what America should be doing. On the contrary I hope to open the eyes of EVERY Red Blooded American who finally has had enough and wants to live as (Dare I say this) Gods plan for our lives? So I thank you for this video. I really do because we think we are awake to all the dangers being forced on us by really bad people. What we really need is more truth and access to REAL information that will give us a better chance to succeed instead of fail in the first year, or two years or as one man wrote in your comments after six years. This life style is NOT for the faint of heart. But then neither were the colonists who came to make a better life for their family and others of the same mindset. We are American's, We are Colonists, We demand clean food, clean products, and politicians who will stand for what America really stands for .... a Strong and resilient People described God's word, in our US Constitution, our Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence. I forgot to mention that I am nearly 70 now, but I still have hope I can buy some land at least for myself.

Small farm here, this was down right refreshing.

I've farmed for 40 years and have listened to him also. But not much. He's not realistic and sounds like an academic. Works on paper not real life. And if we did what he advocates, and he gets his way, there will be mass famine. The solution is to get the government and corruption out of farming.

Men are smarter than women.. Prove me wrong! >> This video/channel! The end.

This seems a fair and reasonable critique. Thank you.

The “right answer” is freedom of choice and freedom of speech so everyone KNOWS “the science”, but nobody OWNS “the science”!!!

Wood chips are abundant and free where I live. If more folks would be cutting down the trees that need it they would be more abundant and we would not have had 16 power outages since January. That being said I can see some of your points. I do think Joel Salatin is into people having Choice. And even if all the ideas floated by RFK and Salatin do not succeed, if it curtails some of the lobbying and agency capture and loosens up regulation on small, local producers that would be good. I’m fine with local communities regulating via word of mouth for local markets. We know who use great or sloppy practices. So if burdensome regulations on local farms are eased they will have accomplished plenty!!!