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In the video I did clearly state actually issues with Dragon Age. There are issues with Dragon Age and I agree with some of them. But these people have nothing. They have no real issue with Dragon Age.

@@Knight1029 Sorry, dude. 10 minutes in, and all you kept saying is that no one has any actual complaints or valid criticisms. Here's some of mine, off the dome real quick: Art direction, wildly diverging from previous games. Ugly HUD heavy UI. Floaty looking, spongy "action combat" with shoddy companion AI. The entire plot of the game diverging from the incredible sequel hook, that everyone wanted; shift of focus from an epic, nuanced and complex villain that was built up in the prior game, with world ending stakes, to instead focus on a cast of quirky colorful characters. The fact that the game has been in development hell for 10 years, and apparently changed direction at least 3 different times. That they put out the first trailer that was so off the mark from what anyone wanted, that they have since been over-correcting by showing off so many spoilers from the game ever since. And in my opinion the final nail in the coffin, that no decisions will matter except for 3. Completely discarding the main promise of the franchise, about choice and consequences, and a world shaped by character choice. Does that mean every single choice had to have some wildly branching outcome? No. Previous games primarily resolved this through alternate lines of dialogue or codex entries; swapping cameos; and in few instances of major choices, fairly significant changes. For them to NOT prioritize this aspect of the series in any way, in fact to blatantly discard it, is just such a slap in the face to the fans of these games. The amount of effort that would have to have gone in, to eliminate any reference to variable world states at this point, to homogenize everything, and avoid mentioning significant aspects of the world, to not contradict any player canon, makes the world smaller, not bigger. How can you bring Morrigan back, but not care if she was romanced by the warden? Or if she was a mother? Or if she drank from the well? What is the actual point of making a Dragon Age game, when you are literally discarding the history. Just make some mobile action dating sim, at that point, clearly it's what they wanted.

​@@Keyatzin its cool. I just wish people would actually listen to what I am saying and not what they think I am saying. My biggest issue with the Dragon Age series is the inconsistency of the franchise. To be clear this issue I have is not the writing, not the lore or characters. Its the inconsistency of combat and art style. I think the series is true to its core but those surface level details matter in showing a consistent identity. All the Dragon Age games are the same where it matters but lacking that surface level consistency makes them feel less like each other. DAV on its own has an amazing art style and combat. But in conversation with prior games the issue is that it isn't building upon what was done before. Other points I wish to say is that I don't think DAV's art style is "mobile" that just seems like a buzz word thrown out to have another word for bad. Compare DAV to DAO's characters. They are not the same but they are similar. If DAV is mobile game then so is DAO. I am not a fan of the UI because I feel like it could have been more tailored to the game. I don't think it looks bad but it could have been better. The story direction is fine. Solas is still present in the game but now is someone we can talk to instead of someone we see talking to us. Him being a companion means he has to be used differently. What made Solas interesting was us interacting with him like a companion. And how they did it retains that. Additionally, Solas isn't out of the game yet. Solas could likely be lying and waiting for his opportunity to strike. The other gods would attack him first for obvious reasons. But if they believe he is out of the picture then they wouldn't care. The story direction is fine. Also the strongest part of Bioware games have been their ability to tell stories through characters. It is what made ME2 so successful and what made Anthem feel like the least like a Bioware game. Focusing on the characters is a good thing. I do agree that the spoilers have been odd. I made a video about it where I do agree they should stop it. I also dislike that Bioware has basically made only three choices from the prior games matter. It sucks. It really does. Will that make a bad game? No, it will definitely effect it but it won't make it worse. Was Fallout 2 a worse game because it canonize the Brotherhood of Steel ending? No. And what Bioware is doing isn't that. They are simply not mentioning our choices in the next game. Its not good but its fine. Why they did this is reasonable. They want to have a high amount of reactivity and the only way to do that is limit the amount of choices they have to carry over. An issue that all Bioware games will have to face at some point is when will the game stop being about telling a story and start being about showing off our choices? I think that's fine but that should be the end of a franchise. Where the last game is only about showing off our choices. If Bioware did this with a new franchise that would be fine. New expectations and all that. But doing it with the fourth game of Dragon Age where all the prior games carried over our choices? That isn't great. If it was up to me I would have sacrificed that reactivity they wanted for those one of lines and cameos.

@@Knight1029 To me, it's not the art style that screams Mobile game, but the UI. It wasn't until I saw recent footage of them interacting with a vendor in the game, (which also, why is that part of the marketing?) and it popped up these big glowing icons, my brain was expecting an unskippable ad to pop up. Art Style wise, I always look back at DAO as having placeholders, and yes, being ugly. But DA2 is where they really established the look; the different races had distinct features, I don't know why they've gone away from that. And the enemy designs are just . . lacking. To me this game looks like it has been hopping on trends for the past 10 years of development and it has no identity of it's own, just this frankenstein'd skeleton from whatever survived the cutting room floor. I won't be surprised if it also heavily features Marvel-esque quippy dialogue and jokes to kill every dramatic tension. Absolutely the best parts of Bioware games were the world building AND the characters. And the most compelling hook of this game was, Solas, this companion from the previous game, that we have a connection to and backstory with, being the main antagonist. That was such an exciting premise; especially for the DA series where every game places you in a new protagonist, so while the player has this connection, they can roleplay it very differently. It's just such an exciting concept and they pushed it aside with the name change. And what they have presented as the focus instead is not nearly as interesting. Of course there were always going to be new and interesting characters as well, that was meant to be a given. But the draw was always the cliffhanger from the prior title. And whether Solas would be stopped or saved. Fallout is not a valid comparison for this. Every single Bioware franchise has carried over choices from prior installments. Hell, Kotor 2 carried over more than 3 choices and it wasn't even made by Bioware. But Dragon Age, made the promise to fans, that your choices would carry through, and you would see them carried forward. not every choice, of course, and sometimes there were retcons, sometimes it was minor cameos, or codex entries or alternate lines, but it added immersion and replayability. And their excuse "the other games were in the south" doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny. Not when Weisshaupt and the Fade, and Tevintor and Morrigan are prominently featured. Major decisions were made regarding the gray wardens, who came out of the fade, and who stayed behind has been the source of rampant speculation and theories for 10 years. It was a dangling plot thread clearly meant to tie into the next game, and now it just doesn't matter? Dorian and Iron Bull, their status with the Inquisition, whether they were recruited, kicked out or killed, or if they are in a romance, doesn't matter, when they were potentially both going to Tevinter. Talk about a perfect opportunity for a Gay/Bi relationship that most fans would be happy to see. But I guess they won't even cameo since they can't have any established history. I guess the Qunari plot just doesn't matter either? Trespasser teased a major invasion plot in the north. Again, not every choice has to feature in every game, and they don't have to be huge. But if they didn't want to put the work in to flesh out the choices that would clearly be relevant they shouldn't even be making the game. I think from what I've seen of the gameplay it looks mid. But I've never been into these games for the combat. Now knowing that nothing is carrying forward, that all those plot threads that we have been waiting to see some resolution to for so long, they're just irrelevant . . I have no interest left. I'm just mad. I'd honestly be less insulted if they just canonized the World State from the novels, rather than trying to ignore or hide everything that might contradict something, at least then there could be a fleshed out world.

​@@Keyatzin the UI design in general doesn't look like a mobile game to me but the shop interface does look like those of Destiny or many live service games. I can agree on that. But again the issue isn't that its bad but that it doesn't take the opportunity to look like itself. That's an interesting take. I never heard people refer to Origins art style as "placeholder". I respect that take. As for why they shifted from DA2's art style; Origins fans. They disliked DA2's art style and made a fuss about it to Bioware. Causing them to change it. Which I think is sad. DA2's art style gives Dragon Age a look of its own. From what I have seen and heard DAV doesn't have anything like Marvel dialogue. It has quipy dialogue that is common in Dragon Age. I just don't see how the game's story direction is worse then what we have now. I just don't see it. My reason in bringing up Fallout was to say that what Bioware is doing is fine. I was not comparing them one to one. Would it have been better to have our choices carry over? Yes. Is the game made worse for not doing that? No. It sucks. It really does but I don't think the game will be worse for it. There are obvious things they should address and I agree them not addressing it is bad.

@@-Tristan- yeah. I really think the game would have been better with a voiced protagonist.

I disagree.

That is one of the benefits of canonizing a choice. We can actually see the full consequences of that choice and not have it be barely mentioned or have all the choices end in the same outcome. And I do feel like that is something Bioware should do. At least with big choices. I do wander how another Dragon Age game would be after DAV. It will be interesting if there is another game.

It should have been more than what it is now. I get why they did it but it sucks that they didn't do more.

Well funny you should say that; EA used helping Anthem (which it did need help) to reboot DAV into a live service game. It had you playing with other characters and the story itself was there but small. It wasn't until 2021 where they pushed back against EA and turned it into a single player, offline, no microtransaction game. So, you aren't off on that. It is clear the consequences of it being a live service game at the beginning but it is good that they pivoted to the game we have today. So, you were right about that! I got the information from an IGN article : za.ign.com/dragon-age-dreadwolf/201462/news/how-bioware-finally-got-dragon-age-to-the-finish-line-after-a-tumultuous-decade Its an interesting read. I do wish they were honest about it though. People won't like it but it is important to just be honest about it. I do hope what was implied by Bioware that we are gonna get a Kotor 2 style thing.

Yeah! We liked and wanted to romance them because of who they are. Sure Garrus and Tali are aliens but that doesn't really matter. Its this weird assumption that if they don't look like us we can't be attracted to them. Which is just a weird thing to think or say.

@@Knight1029 yup. Hopefully they step away from that in future games. Now that you’ve mentioned it, it occurs to me that Jaal didn’t look particularly alien either, and he’s the only one of the romances we got in Andromeda that’s separate from the other races we were already familiar with in the trilogy 🤔

@@ChroniclesofNoria apparently with Angaran and Kett they wanted to make them cosplay friendly. Which is fine but I do think they could gave gone a lot wilder with the designs. But yeah I do hope they step away from that in the newer games.

Yeah... What about those choices? It just doesn't make much sense to not have those even.

Yet people think his opinions are worth listening to.

I can get the frustration. And I am not trying to say anyone who feels like that shouldn't. But I just want to straighten a few things out. The decision wasn't informed by wanting new fans over core fans. It certainly is a desire that Bioware wants new fans but the decision to have three choices wasn't because of that. It was simply to try and have DAV contain more reactivity and better tell its story. Games that carry over player's choices will inevitable face the issue that future games will simply be about showing off the player's choices and not telling its story. That is fine but I feel like it should be relegated to an end of franchise game. What Bioware is doing is well intentioned. As for the "The flippant “one off lines and cameos” seems like PR speak." I just don't see how it is like that. Sure Alistair, Loghain, Stroud, Hawke and others like that are more than just "one off lines and cameos" but most are. And it is fine to want to have it be more than that. The people who played the previews knew. Many content creators came out after the reveal and said they knew about it and were disappointed with it. And Ghil Dirthalen said in her podcast that was her most disappointed thing on DAV. They knew and some even spoke about it. Again, it does suck. It honestly makes the hype around the game less. And Bioware shouldn't have done that. I just wanted to clarify a few things.

@@Knight1029 thanks for the correction on the previews thing. I misunderstood, it actually looks like they couldn’t talk about it till the article came out. Oooooh NDAs I dunno man, from what I’ve seen people want the “one off lines and cameos” It means something to a lot of people, if not most people. Like it was really cool seeing an alive Connor in Inquisition and a letter from your grey warden. Dude that was just soooo cool to me! Point is all the small things mean a lot and can count for one big positive experience. Seems like that was taken away. No excuses for the big choices/consequences though lol. I dunno what was going on there. Unless it’s like you mentioned in that a world state is just going to be made the canon.

@@sizzybubbles its cool. Its obviously not that wide spread because they aren't shouting it from the rooftops but they do know. I agree. As I said in the video if I had a choice between what Veilguard did and “one off lines and cameos” I would choose the latter. I love just seeing how my choices effected the world in those small ways. It was really cool. And it sucks what they did. I do hope what John Epler said is true.

That's true.

That's true.

The three choice limit is not a "laziness" issue. If Bioware were lazy they would have never fought against EA to change DAV from a live service game to a single player, offline, no microtransaction game. The reason for the change was as John Epler said. To try and use those choices for better consequences and have DAV contain better reactivity

@@Knight1029 Your opinion doesn't make this decision any less ridiculous since we have no idea if these 3 choices will be done well at all either. I expect 6 at least 6 choices from DAI if they did away with the keep.

@@chargers0001 nor do we know if they are gonna be done poorly. All we know is that its limited. It sucks.

@@Knight1029 Who's to say those people who fought against live service are even at the company anymore? To not include the Well of Sorrows bare minimum seems lazy to me since both Morrigan and the inquisitor are returning, its an important choice in relation to the elven God's and could be implemented without too much difficulty since its between Morrigan and the inquisitor.

@@chargers0001 I don't know man. You can take this bad faith logic to any extent. How can you say they aren't still there? Because of feelings?

It wasn't really ten years of promoting the game. They only did that after Anthem and then after the big removal of all the live service elements. Do I think what Bioware did was bad? Yes, they should have said there were only three choices upfront. But the game will be fine in the end.

I so hope we have moments like that as well. It was such a highlight of DAI.

It really was. It wasn't a lot and if you think about it doesn't add all to much in the grand scheme of things but I love it all the same.

Anthem's lack of long term support really prevented it from gaining any traction. Which does suck. It has a lot of potential.

I get that. I just don't think the game itself will be bad because of it. I think it will be fine.

As I said in my video the dialogue wheel is just a UI element and that is it. You can accomplish what a dialogue list can do with a dialogue wheel. Its just a UI design and doesn't actually inform anything. The reason a dialogue wheel is used is for cinematic purposes. As was said in the early showcase for Mass Effect. The only real difference between the dialogue list and dialogue wheel is clarity. And that can be accomplished by a dialogue list with icons and colors. Not saying what you are trying to say is wrong just that both UIs can do the same thing. The issue with Fallout 4 is that it didn't understand what Fallout should do with dialogue.

One of the chatters mentioned that and I find that really cool!

I disagree.

Nah man. The story we have seen thus far has been isolated from prior choices. The only one that isn't is Solas, Varric and Morrigan. And they presence isn't hinged on prior choices. Stuff like the Well and Kieran will have an impact but that can be mitigated. I am not saying it is good. Just saying the story will be fine.

I like it for that feeling as well. It shows a side of the wardens we don't normal see. Which is cool!

@Knight1029 we could see some aspects of it in Origins, but definitely not in the latter games. I dont like the fact that they almost villified the wardens in Inquisition at times. Here is hoping they did the wardens some justice and respect in Veilguard.

@@marcomongke3116 I don't think DAI "vilified" the wardens. The people like Cassandra dislike the wardens for reasons we saw in DAO. They have a lot of power when it comes to recruiting whoever they want. The Right of Conscription is something that many people take issue with. And what the wardens did in DAI was bad. Now does that all wardens are bad? No, the wardens in DAI were tricked. Their devotion to stopping the Blights were used against them. Turning their noble ideas into something sinister. Anyways, I think Veilguard will show the more noble aspects of the wardens.

@Knight1029 It really depends on the time. During Blights, the wardens and their sacrifices have saved the world. I understand they were tricked and acting in desperation, but it all felt unbelievably stupid and naive like children from a narrative perspective. (Maybe i have become too old) And then, at some point, you were attacking and murdering the wardens, all of which felt such a waste and left a bad taste in my mouth. Sacrificing ones life for duty should not be an action taken lightly.

@@marcomongke3116 I just don't think what the wardens did was "unbelievably stupid and naive like children". Because think of it from their perspective. They all suddenly started hearing the Calling. Not just a few, not just a lot, but all of them. That would cause them to think and behave irrationally. Which leads them open to being manipulated. And as for us killing them; they were either demon possessed grey wardens or saw us as the enemy, due to the manipulation. I just don't see what happened as bad writing.

That is a huge issue. Bioware revealing this a month before the game releases is insane. I now for a fact that if on release we just see three choices people would have been so upset. It does genuinely make me, and many other, disappointed.

That "narcissistic nutter" was a writer on Inquisition and the lead writer on Trespasser. That stuff you praised DAI for? They were part of it. And also I have no idea how you can think Veilguard is written like that. It looks like it is gonna be good.

Exactly what I talked about they don't know 😂 and drive by Racism and Homophobia he believes Courine Bushe is the writer she's not she is a game director but not lead Director that's John Epler.

@@Knight1029 I know how, this is parroted discourse, which sadly shows how people are unable to do basic research about any topic.

​@@StringsAndSouls That's their biggest problem they can't 😂 they need someone who speak to their delusion and make their opinions notice how he has no backup to his claim filled with repeated phrase and hate on groups.

Only Patrick Weekes is a great writer who's behind the Trespasser and characters like Solas, Cole, Iron Bull and Mordin Solus from ME. Like they intentionally wrote Solas dialogue to resemble Hallelujah song. Which is shows how dedicated and creative they are.

I think it is part an utilitarian choice as John Epler said in the IGN article but I don't think it can't be a artistic choice as well. It can be both. And I think it is both. But otherwise I do agree. It feels like they should have had other choices present as well. It would have been much better.

Not even having that choice present feels so weird to me. Like that is important I feel.

@@Knight1029 yeah but other than morrigan past being missing I get why they decided not to flesh out anything else. Northern thadas would have little to do with the south. It would be like how would the events of the Spanish inquisition be relevant to the rise of the tang dynasty in China . Other than the inquisition chasing solas every other event in the games could probably be handled by unique dialogue choices in the game

@@ChrisHJohnson93 that is true. Northern Thedas is not entirely isolated from the south but it won't be as heavily effected.