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Capacity and costs are certainly an important argument. but you have way more safety at loading and unloading with detachables, especially with children and beginner. And i think thats the biggest reason why resorts here in Europe install detachable, in contrast to fix griped. With detachables resorts can limit safety and especially liability almost to zero. Just my 2 cents here from Austria.

"Should we go ski"? No lets walk down.....

I remember Mankato from the little house in prairie😂

The 2023-24 season was tough, but you could rely on good snow from opening day to the last day of the season.

I do the Indy Pass and get a bohemia pass, which gives me the ability to ride 100+ days a season at dozens of spots for under $500. Out west, you pay more for everything, drive further, and wait in longer lift lines to dodge more ppl on the slopes.

GREAT take on it and I agree its the best in the Midwest! All the change in seasons is nice.

Nice work MZ. If you love skiing there’s many great options in the Midwest to feed your need to ski and still have good living with the fam.

This is something that I’ve given a lot of thought to. After doing a lot of research, I think you’re 100% right that the Twin Cities would be great for all the reasons you listed. But there are some other factors too: the Twin cities have so many big parks within them (with natural woods, not curated greenery) that it makes the place interesting from a trail runner, mountain biker, fat biker, and cross country skier point of view. You can do all of these sports on a daily basis at a relatively decent level without taking a day off work to drive somewhat far. Also, Minneapolis is such a cool city in its own right, which is a plus. My brother currently lives there, and it’s fun to visit. But with that said, I personally found myself in late 2020 living abroad but securing a remote position (with a decent but modest salary). I immediately started researching ski towns across the Mountain West. With two kids and a wife, it would be impossible to live in any ski town without being a multimillionaire. Eventually I realized Utah is a gem, in that all of its population centers (SLC, Ogden, Cache Valley, Cedar City) are within 45 minutes of excellent skiing! As a native Coloradan, it somewhat broke my heart to admit Utah is better, but the proximity is just so much closer, and traffic is dispersed on so many roads, not just one road (I-70). But with that said, although Utah is awesome , it still is not quite as close as the Twin Cities, in which you could do a few laps after work, since even a 45 minute drive is somewhat considerable. There is also not great in-city cross country skiing, except for in Cache Valley, and one part of the SLC metro (Millcreek).

Having lived and skied all over the west (CO, UT, CA, OR, WA) I couldn't imagine being a ski bum in the mid west (I grew up in the midwest skiing MN, WI, and MI). There just isn't enough interesting and challenging terrain at most mid west resorts in my opinion. I currently live in central WA and have both Stevens Pass and Mission Ridge within 40-45 minutes (Leavenworth, Cashmere, Wenatchee, etc. all have great access to both). I was able to get 70 resort days and probably 20 backcountry days and I am not even a ski bum. The ski bum life is still doable out west if you find the right places.

Artski doesn't fit in any of your ski bum categories!

No it’s not

Cincinnati local here, primary resort is perfect north. Great video! totally agree. I take two trips out west a year and couldn't be happier.

I work in a factory on the afternoon shift in Michigan. And i ride 2 - 3 days a week in the morning. 20 minute drive to the hill. Cant do that in denver.

If im riding the lift with you and you say the line “this is nothing compared to out west” You’re tacky and I hate you

Well done! As a former midwest rider I love the work you do on this channel. I live in SLC now and I would argue it's the best western town for corporate bums. Way better proximity than Denver, cheaper, and less traffic. I'd be happy to show you around if you find yourself in Utah!

kinda late but what is the name of the song playing in the first few mins of the video

Agree with the top four. My two local bergs wouldn't make many top five lists but would be strong contenders for the top dozen. Caberfae has much of what makes Nubs so special, top notch snowmaking and a focus on snowsports without a lot of fluff. If you really like the resort stuff than Crystal (of Thomsonville) is quite a sprawl with a touch of luxury.

Telle ski Bohemia many times only good with powder or soft snow.

The Puyallup Fair here in Washington state has the same exact one. It was originally at the Seattle Center built for the World's Fair. It was then disassembled and moved to Puyallup.

I know they were part of the Mount Bohemia reciprocal pass, And thought they were on Ski Cooper??

Congrats on 4000 subscribers!

Love the list and Hyland's inclusion. It is closer to my office than any McDonald's. Speaking of accessible, tons of kids learn here or go for the first time and others that wouldn't ever be able to go. Hyland is host to a huge adaptive skiing population, shout out to Courage Kenny!

You typical mid west area should try adding more and better snowmaking to cover more of the hill. Perhaps snow guns at the top,bottom and middle and have them going more often. have the guns set up to closer resemble natural snow. In addition to that I've noticed some areas don't have lap bars on their lifts. I think they all should. And how bout having more efficient ski rental services to speed up the wait lines. And a lower cost on rental and lessons would help too. 10:00

Nothing like Michigan's UP - Big Powderhorn, Indianhead (recently renamed), The Porkies and Mount Bohemia for a rustic ski/board destination.

Whitecap!!! Mt. Bohemia, The Porkies, Giants Ridge and Whitecap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRING IT BACK

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Water dye mate

Looks like a Halfpipe reminds me of old school Tyrol basin summer jam in the 90s

Honestly, I kinda of prefer the old “warm” lighting more than the new bright LED lights.

More Uphill Travel! skinning and skiing please! So many areas out west allow this, and the risk is minimal-especially compared to the (unmanaged) terrain park scene.

Love it! Thank you Matthew!

MORE OFF-PISTE SECTIONS.

Living in Michigan, I like to hear your insight on things like this. Thanks dude! On the topic of cool things that resorts do... this season, starting in early March, Boyne Mountain had $20 lift tickets for anyone with a 23-24 Michigan resort/Epic/Ikon season pass. And considering Boyne was open until April 20, that was a very cool thing for them to do!

There's no such thing as a bad ski hill. Anyone who wants to invest millions just so i can catch an adrenalin rush for a tiny fraction of the total cost is running a good ski hill imo. Good points in vid and in your comment. I'd love to see a 300' vertical hill devoted 100% to freestyle terrain:half pipes, kickers, rails and a boarder-X.

surprised we dont see more solar panel street lights

I wish there were more moguls.

I love the pass holder idea.

What ever happen to T bar? I liked those.

Rather than early - how about open late!! Not everyone is a morning lark and the race/ski school crew is who needs those early hours for setting up gear and starting those next generation beginners!! The value in being able to get off work at 8PM and still have two to three hours after the race teams and school groups head out or how many places shut their food service down by 8 or 9PM!!! Everyone's hungry/thirsty when they come off the hill!! And yes! Still love those areas that offer the "Affordable Option" AND the "Bar Food/Bouge/Sit Down Option"!!!! Just like $300 lift tickets, not everyone can afford $18 cheese curds yet is happy with the quintessential ski resort delicacy (IYKYK!) small bag cold soggy fries for $2 and $3 not a quarter pounder cheese/burger!!! That's my "If I could wave a magic fairy wand"... (Plus school kids having the $100 4 lift/beginner lesson/rental group nights to build the sport, but magic fairy wand, not miracle)...

Definitely agree with all. I would add copy Hyland and perfect your high speed rope which is at waist level at your park. Not having to reach down and dig a rope out of a trench is amazing. Also a small jump line in the park versus only jib would be such a plus for those who don't want to risk their skulls and bones on a feature but want a bit of lappable adrenaline.

I'd love to see...(wait for it)...more t-bar utilization (yes, I said it, & yes, I'm serious). Better than rope-tows; t-bars are far more cost effective than lift chairs, need less manpower to run, & can be used for more intermediate to advanced runs that help the non-casual skiers avoid lift line traffic. The slight skill required & the fact you still have to stand, limits the newbies & casual skiers desire to "T it up", they'd rather go sit down. For the resort: less install cost, less liability (insurance doesn't have to worry about people falling from them), less on-going labor, less traffic on busy quads = better profit margins. For skiers: can break up lift line waits, doesn't chew up you gloves like rope tows, can pull you up steeper terrain than rope tows, can lap your fav runs easier, & can keep your season pass or daily tix prices from continuing to rise to cover bigger chairs & increasing liability costs. If Breck can run one to the top of a peak, why in the world couldn't a midwest resort run one a couple hundred yards...just saying.

I love seeing the explosion of partner pass programs amongst some of the Midwest's mom and pop hills.

If you are a follower of this channel, you should know we keep things positive here, so before posting, please keep the following in mind... (otherwise, we'll delete your comments) 1) Don't throw a specific ski area under the bus. There is no need for this - focus on the areas that are doing your concept/idea well. 2) Be realistic and constructive. Trust me; I would love to have $1 beers and $15 lift tickets every day, but... these areas still are businesses 3)Explain why. Ideas are excellent, but the reasoning behind them is even cooler! Please share with us why you think your idea/concept would be mutually beneficial for ski areas and skiers/riders.

shake and bake lol

Honestly, my local resort was so crowded last season but tis season nobody was there...I can relate

Great list, been to all but Hylands and agree with the list. Would’ve added honorable mentions for places like Cascade, Caberfae, Pine Mountain for local places with a lot to offer. And Granite Peak for their terrain and lift capacity for a Midwest area with some of the best snowmaking around.

Where the heck is my uncles backyard

Mystery Mountain at Lutsen could benefit from converting to a pulse lift. That has to be one of the longest lift rides in the midwest and pretty low capacity needed