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the biggest shock for me is not how good phoenix looks pulled, but seeing those random american tourists with digital leicas

Can’t wait to get it in 120 now, looking forward to using in 6x7. Great series on Phoenix, you look to be the reference source for this film stock.

It was nice to see what you took it out to experiment on and the meetup you went and saw all those people at! Oh hey, it's your Zeiss Ikon that I've seen in the details on many of your instagram posts! The Voigtlander 35mm looks so nice and compact on it! OMG A 617, INSANE! Those shots you took on it were excellent! I always feel like you need to find _certain_ places to make some formats work. The ones you took it to were great uses of it! I found the stories just as interesting interwoven with what you decided to test out each time! Even though you found a lot of it out in 35mm already (due to your EXTENSIVE testing), seeing the results of the smaller grain and halation due to the larger format were nice examples of the difference it makes! Also that Rollei looks super cool! Another awesome video!

Thank you for a very good overview of these films. They are probably derived from the same film, just tweaked a little in order to get two different films for marketing purposes - a true IR film and a film with extended red sensitivity. Aviation films are designed to cut haze over long distances, but shooting horizontally at sea level is not the same as shooting down vertically from an aircraft.

awesome thabk you. got my roll today

Amazing video!! I love how much detail you go into, always learn a lot and will be taking your recommendations absolutely so thank you!!!

I'm glad I watched this, I was ready to give up on Phoenix, but your advice of shooting at 100 ISO and under developing by 30 seconds prompted me to put a roll in my Pentax ME-F and do a shoot at our local allotments. Taking your advice worked wonders, 36 out of 38 useable shots and the other two were camera failures not the film. I've ordered some 120 to try in my Yashica 635. So thank you, my faith in Phoenix has been restored.

I love Phoenix so much, because of how different and imperfect it is, contrary to many others opinions. I really hope I can shoot it much more while it's available. Now it seems I will be able to do with my Lubitel 2 aswell lol

Harman / Ilford seem like a cool company to even attempt this.. and being totally transparent about its shortcomings as well. They're doing everything right it seems, I wish them all the success tbh.

Aight but when we going into large format.

Wait, you mean Phoenix doesn't render fluorescent light green anymore ? Your photo at 8:06 clearly show a fluorescent tube anf it looks white. That was the reason I liked phoenix...

Hey Alex, one question about the scanning if I may. Do you know if there's any chance to get good scanning results with Epson scanners + Phoenix? I'm asking for all of us mortals who don't have digital MF camera to scan Phoenix. Ps. Your videos make me wanna cross process all the color film in ECN-2 :)

I’m looking forward to shooting some of the new 120 Harman Phoenix, I’ve rewatched the mastering phoenix vids again and want to develop c41 with a -1 stop pull. I was wondering how you calculated this and adjusted times for this pull. I’m also using the Bellini 3 step C41 Kit and wondered how you calculated this. Cheers 👍

lovely photos

I think it’s great that they’re making this film but it is absolutely not for me. I don’t like the colours and the lack of anti-halation layer is a deal breaker for me, it’s why I cannot stand cinestill.

33:33 but what if I do want to hear about molar extinction coefficients and the like xD although I'm probably one of the few who are also diving into the theory of similar things myself (mostly the b&w side for now....the developing, the sensitising dyes, the formation of the silver halide crystals in the emulsion...etc) I might also be more of a physical chemist rather than an organic one

ooh Pheonix in a Holga (or Diana) 👀

I only do digital photography but this was so interesting to watch! You're making me want to pick up an SLR to try out shooting film...

I'm experiencing a loud audio glitch at 6:01, sounds like a sparkle from my speakers

Has anyone tried scanning these on the Nikon Coolscan 9000 with Nikon Scan software? Or am I the guineapig?

Hi alex, i agree very much with the way how this phoenix renders on overcast day which i dont usually like! Thanks for the video

You absolutely killed this! I'm curious to cut some down and reload into a 110 cartridge and use my Pentax Auto 110. Just to see how terrible the grain would be. Do you think it would be worth visiting in 120 format trying E6 again with a warming filter?

@ me being extremely clueless @11:09 😂 lovely video, and lots of respect for all the hard work that went into it in such a short amount of time!

these are probably the best images i've seen from this film

Comprehensive as always! Great work Alex 👍 Those last 6x17 shots were a nice addition, and the night shot worked quite well!

Those tourists are pretty well known film photographer youtubers. I schoot film sometimes not at box speed and I also schoot certain frames at different film speeds but always get it developed at box speed..

These look great!

Hey, I just found your channel. Thanks for this review, nice images and very helpful. I am in Montreal, too bad I just saw this. Not sure who your friend 'Marc' is here, I will try to find him. I've been shooting Phoenix in 35mm, can't wait to try it with my Bronica GS-1 in medium format, although I don't know if it's available in Canada yet. I like the retro look, these days when color film gets scanned anyway (when I have time I print my b&w in the darkroom), a color film should not aspire to look 'perfect' like digital. The somewhat saturated and grainy look of Phoenix is perfect for urban subjects. I haven't tried either pulling or cross-processing in ECN2, thanks for the tips I will get to it. One problem I've had twice, with the 35mm, is film jamming in the cartridge and not advancing at all even after seemingly loaded correctly, so the rolls were completely unexposed. This happened on two different cameras, both Pentax although I don't know if that is relevant, I have not had this problem with other film stocks. The company said their machine that crimps the slot on the canister sometimes crimps it too tight, so the film can get stuck and not advance and then pop off the takeup sprockets. Harman replaced my roll the first time, the second was just last week. Not going to be an issue with medium format of course. Cheers!

phoenix in 617 is absolutely insane

I wasn't expecting to see a Twin Cam at 7:40 😂

The Rolleiflex SL 66 was Barry,s favourite camera.

Edited your images? Cos I never saw anyone taking a decent photo with harman phoenix like you

I print my Xpan shots 30'x10' inches or 76x25 centimeters and they look fantastic. You could easily print the frames coming from that Fuji to be the size of your wall. lol I'm not in love with Phoenix 200 but I've purchased several rolls simply to support Harman. Anyone investing this much money into the world of film deserves support from the community. Thanks for the video!

Excellent review and wonderful images Shaka. Thank you for sharing.

Looks like I have to see how much my lab charges for pulling dev…

Great video Alex. Thanks for all of your help:)

9:48 those two American tourists look like trouble! 😹😹 Karin is an internet treasure 😸

Very enjoyable Alex, some beautiful images, and the images from the 617, wow! I hope you're enjoying the big film hungry Fuji!!

Pretty much the only review you need to watch! I'm so amazed by the ECN-6 cross processing. love the results!

Really looking forward to trying this and also hoping that a 4x5 version comes out someday lol

Thanks for this. Really enjoyed!

The Pheonix guy is back!

14:18 I wish I could get aerochrome in 120…

looking forward to you taking another crack at making slides from phoenix. even if it turns out to be completely impractical, it's interesting.

Phoenix in 4x5 😮 14:50

does the backingpaper also reduce the halations?

Noice

Great video as always, Phoenix is such a great thing for film photography. it might not suit everyone with how the lab scans come out but people cant deny this is a very positive step in the right direction for film. Plus the branding is bangin!