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What this abdication episode finally confirms - bookended with William IV's and Victoria's failed maneuvers against their prime ministers - is the complete powerless of the British monarchy. This wasn't about some consequential legislation Edward was pushing and the government opposed. Edward couldn't even marry the woman he wanted to. That would be an interesting discussion you guy could have - the real decline of the monarchy's political power.

This whole story is fascinating. I keep thinking that each episode is going to be the end of the story, but there are always more to come. It would be interesting to hear more of the story of the rest of Edward’s life beyond 1937 / 1940 / 1945. Just because the Abdication was done in 1936, it doesn’t mean it was done and dusted for the people who lived through it. e.g. the standard story is that Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother never forgave Wallis, so in that sense it remained an issue until 2002.

The fact that the story broke out into the public on c.3rd December, and led to an apparently rapid frenzy of activity in 8 days, reminds me of the death of Queen Elizabeth II in 2022. Most ordinary members of the public were unaware of the seriousness of her illness until it was announced at lunchtime on 8th September. People within royal circles (and probably a few journalists) had known for months that she was seriously ill with bone cancer. If Buckingham Palace had been more open in sharing updates on the Queen’s declining health over the several months preceding her death, then the public would have been better prepared for her death and it would not have come as such a shock within just a few hours on 8th September.

10:38 the idea of a snap general election being won by the King’s party reminds me of the occasional talk among some establishment people about plotting a coup against Harold Wilson’s government in the 1970s. A few armchair generals might have talked about it when they were drunk, but it was never realistic.

King Edward VIII did not abdicate. He abandoned Mrs Simpson, accepted the need to do his duty as monarch, and reigned successfully asa popular king and bachelor until his death in 1972. When we were celebrating Queen Elizabeth II’s 50th anniversary on the throne in 2022, QE2 decided that she wasn’t satisfied with only 50 years, and decided she wanted to break Queen Victoria’s record for the longest reign. So she travelled back in time, messed with Edward’s plans, and persuaded him to abdicate. Thus QE2 altered the time line of history and became Queen in 1952 instead of 1972.

I was so sad when Owen left Hever. Then we all got a holiday miracle and he returned to where he belongs!

Very interesting, as always! Thank you! I'm looking forward to the next installment of the 'Abdication' series! Take care.

Loved the listen

Tommy's Dairies are a treasure,I listen to often, including last night! I have a lot of time for Tommy Lascelles!:)

A rather tortured, may i say, explanation of Morganatic marriage. Google etymology of morganatic. The gift of title given the morning after the marriage. The gift will be constrained/limited in the way described.

I absolutely love that in the transcript that The Crown comes out as Crime…..and until Netflix puts a disclaimer on each episode that it is a drama the transcript is correct ✅

People struggle to see Katherine as telling the truth because they are placing their own experience as these two young people... they believe it is impossible for two teens to not get it on, but for me I can totally understand... on my wedding night both my husband and I were virgins and I didn't know even where my own vagina was. I could technically say where it was along with all the reproductive organs, but I had never actually felt down there. It took several days of a honeymoon with plenty of time with each other to figure out how to do the deed. And that was with my husband wanting to do the deed and me wanting to officially consummate the marriage within a few days of marriage although I was a bit shy and awkward. It took a lot of talking and trying to figure out how over several days. We also found that even though my husband was fully healthy it was quite exhausting particularly for him. Now imagine two teenagers who can't even communicate with each other because one speaks english the other speaks spanish. The latin they know could be understood by writing. If you can't communicate it can make it rather difficult to consummate the marriage as my husband and I had to actually discuss and figure out how As Katherine had *ex education than I did then once again it would be difficult for them to know how, being devoutly religious also makes young women less likely to bw comfortable with the idea of *sex. I joined a religion that pushed the importance of *exual purity especially to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDs, and wait until marriage. That was likely a lot more intense for Katherin. So suddenly going from do not have *ex to you can have it with your husband is a huge psychological switch women particularly struggle with making.

What are some of your favorite books about this issue/period of time?

Shadow of the Tower was so interesting!

I think the biggest problem that so many people have is the applying of modern sensibilities to historical situations. Ricardians are stuck on the idea that he couldn't execute his nephews because he was a good ruler in the north. The two aren't related! Especially in the past

I would LOVE to see an episode about each person involved. Tommy's diaries were riveting

I have LOTS of comments/questions about 1936. Is there an email that I could send them to?

absolutely Superb men. I'd love an episode on the events of the 1952 accession at some stage if you could. God bless you both from loyal ulster

This is very interesting and rather complicated part of British history! It would be lovely to have more information on the various individuals involved in the evolution of events. Thank you for the time and effort you both have invested in bringing us this information! Thank you and take care. P.S. I rather like the intro music!!

The Oxford English Dikshury says that nisi is pronounced /naisai/ which means that it’s been anglicised from the Latin

I found the documentary very sensational -all in the modern way with ugly music and so on. PL found the remains of Richard 3 so she has legitamy but the documentary was very disappointing

Richard confessed to having the princes killed.. Case closed.

Didn't Bessie Merriman accompany Wallis on the Balkans cruise as chaperone? I think they used the Ernest has to work excuse

Edward's favorite question: "can I get away with it?" Perfectly sums up his character

Do you know where the rumors about Wallis receiving carnations from Ribbentrop originated? They were supposed to be the evidence of their affair

Definitely an unhealthy and codependent relationship and while they’re both rather unlikable especially if you read events in The Traitor King, one can’t help feeling sorry for their mutual pathetic existence.

Why would someone who keeps saying um and ah do a podcast?

So far it sounds like: he wanted to continue to be the "Playboy Prince; she became ensnared in her own trap. Thank you both for the time and effort you expend to bring us such a comprehensive glimpse into history. Take care. Merry Christmas!

Even though she learned he didn't have enough power to make her queen, she would likely believe he had enough to harm her if she left him. Egoist cry self harm while hurting others. His behavior doesn't seem to have suddenly changed. So I don't sympathize. She seems to have thought she could control the spoiled child.

I see parallels in Meghan Markle being naive in thinking she can marry Prince Harry but still continue her other life as a Hollywood celebrity, without properly realising what the "job" is of being a working royal / duchess.

There is no doubt that Catherine and Arthur never consummated their marriage. The belief in God, Heaven, and Hell was more real in those days than contemporary people can easily understand. Katharine swore on her immortal soul that she came to Henry as a virgin. Her belief in the reality of Heaven and Hell was absolute. She was keenly aware that life is short and that eternity is forever. She would never have lied about this.

Is it accurate (as I vaguely remember) that King George V said that his son was "bound to ruin himself somehow in the end" (or words to that effect)? i.e. not necessarily relating to a scandal with a woman, but a more general character flaw that he was selfish and irresponsible and that he would put his personal comfort ahead of the concept of duty. If not Wallace Simpson (or other woman), , it might have been a financial scandal or political entanglements.

51:49 "Precedence"? When I did A-Level Politics, one quote we had was "The Constitution is what happens" (Prof. J.A.G. Griffith)

7:49 Anniversaries? It has just occurred to me that Edward VIII had the same birthday as the diver Freddie Woodward, who is the most gorgeous man in the world

Both interesting and informative. Thank you for taking the time to research and to share this information with us! Take care.

Aww... I started watching this - but the background (foreground...) music became increasingly intrusive, so I'm afraid I gave up 😔 ETA: the abdication crisis is a perennial area of fascination for me - so, any new content on this is something I appreciate and will devour 😊

I think P.L. is unprofessional and not credible. She doesn’t behave like an historian, she behaves like a fangirl. Her biases prejudice everything she does and frankly, she comes across as unhinged when she moons over Richard III. She was devastated when his remains showed signs of scoliosis, for example. She had convinced herself that the evil Shakespeare had made up his deformity to villainise him. She is convinced Richard was saintly and that isn’t balanced or fair and it certainly isn’t likely, based on evidence.

So these guys are critical that researchers might dismiss documents etc that they might think are not relevant to the subject they are investigating ? What a stupid comment !

Loved listening in on your interesting conversation

Really looking forward to this! Everything Catherine touches turns to gold!

I bet at their “R3 is great” meetings they break to talk of how the earth is flat.😊

That's creepy & pedophilic. I was 18 when I had my 1st & it hurt like hell. I cannot imagine having a baby at 13, 14, 15, or even a 16. Ugh.

I enjoyed this video. I definitely think that, overall, Richard III has been demonized pretty throughly over the centuries without doing any research or keeping Richard III in the context of his own time. That being said, whether or not he had the princes killed is really irrelevant. It certainly wasn’t the first the throne was usurped. It certainly wasn’t the first time contenders were killed. It certainly wasn’t the first time children were not killed in similar circumstances. Ruthlessness was part and parcel with kingship.

I am from the year 2024 and have finished watching the Serpent Queen. It was also on STARZ. That show got weird. But I wanted to learn more so I bought the biography that it was based on. It was interesting but it was a little too long.

Hey. I remember coming across you channel a while ago when I was really into Philippa Gregory. I know that you talk a lot about the Tudor period but do you like other time periods of royal history as well? I have recently read and reviewed a book about King George VI and his wife Elizabeth. It was very good. It is on my channel. I am trying to read lighter books in order to get more subs. But my favorite narrator was reading it so I got the book on audible.

Very informative video I love itttt

I can’t see how the King will stay King of Australia or other country of Commonwealth if England gets rid of him. It will have consequences. Although the fact that they have constitutional agreements, they are linked. Him alone, It will not work. So being King of England is the foundation of being the King of any Commonwealth country.

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Didn't Harry reimburse the money spent on the renovation of Frogmore.Cottage, but continued to pay the rent to keep the house available for whenever the Sussexes were in England? In that regard, evicting Harry is of dubious legality.

"Blindsided the queen." A phrase designed to turn sympathy against the Sussexes.