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I haven't played LoL for a decade, but I feel basically the same. I really liked Victor in season 1 and was excited to see his transformation in season 2. Not only was I disappointed that it didn't match his character in the game, I feel like it took away all of his agency.

He wasn't that special, but ever since Riot changed Swain for no reason, I started playing less

U really like old udyr more than new udyr?? Why??

I miss Skarner, but then again I didn’t fall in love with him till after his first rework.

All the support i see for the vik rework is "erm he's hot now"

These cowards gave Viktor the most trash look ever as a Visual Update and didn't dare to make all other standard champions like Jinx, Vi, Heimerdinger, Jayce and Ekko look like their last season Arcane counterparts and instead made those of course as buyable RP skins. They simply knew that Viktor's is trash and nobody who seriously understands and plays this champ would like it.

udyr was not a delete update. it was a good rework. it is litteraly a push forward both in lord and in gameplay

Suits and ties made Arcane the main canon, and that's the worst possible decision they could have ever made.

They deleted urgot, game us a completely different champ with the same name, so i stopped playing. simple as.

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I deny 95% of ff votes. The second it gets denied i say winnable.

Real quick before the real comment: Just found your channel through this video and wanted to say I really enjoy your content so far - I binged all the way back to your Balatro vid. Real comment: So, I think the thing that just gets to me is that Arcane was never designed to be the new canon. The creative or group of creators behind Arcane's Viktor were imagining how League Viktor would be in this Alternate Universe take on magic and hextech - not how League Viktor would be in the modern day. It's just so apparent that making Arcane Viktor canon was never the goal of Arcane when you look at his design. What is the point of the 3rd arm? In Arcane, Viktor has no attachment to it at all. We see in one little scene that he and Jayce have created a hexclaw and he demonstrates it, but he never uses it again after that NOR is it even shown again, unlike the gauntlets. In the game lore before he was reworked tho? The reason Viktor has a 3rd arm with a laser is so that he can augment himself with ease, something he can't do with only 2 hands, and to protect himself from Chembarons. In Arcane, he does not augment himself, he is not constantly improving, he has already reached the pinnacle, and Chembarons now do not exist - Caitlyn killed them all. For what purpose does Viktor need a 3rd arm? For what purpose did the Arcane people design him like that? Well, they didn't. There isn't a single doubt in my mind that, originally, Viktor did not have that arm in the initial concept for his final form and that it was MANDATED once the higher ups went "so your little project did gangbusters and we can profit from this so now it's the new canon! We are making Leauge Viktor canonically Arcane Viktor because that's the one that has all the fanboys and girls but he's not Viktor without that third arm and the mains will definitely rebel against that so put that in, okay?" The real problem isn't that they decided to update Viktor or even that they wanted to use Arcane as a basis to design it - the problem is that they aren't fucking committing to it. Either it's canon or it's not. Either you need to update all the Piltovian and Zaunite champs to fit with Arcane or not. Either you want to preserve what makes a champ special and keep it's old fanbase or not. You can't just update a champion and change everything about them but then keep parts of them like their kit in hopes that the old fans will still play them. Riot is alienating it's old players but not gaining any new ones. Eventually, that's going to come back and bite them.

I miss old Volibear. I miss him quite a lot. I want him back, with his throwing enemies into turret range and chain lightning auto-attack ultimate.

Old Aatrox players like myself thank you for your service. Justice for orignal Aatrox, lest we forget. I will not drop my passion for him until he is returned in another form or backported completely. The line in the sand remains to be Tryndamere for me, would absolutely be the end for me if they "reworked" him. I legitimately only enjoy him out of all 169 champions since Aatrox was REMOVED from the game. Trynd is also 15+ years old design (almost) coincidence? Also they fucking turned Aatrox into some absolute tweaker with crazed and angry voice lines, he just exudes this 'soy' energy, I cannot even begin to care. He used to feel as if he transcended the very definition of confidence. "Surpass the frailty of your form." type shit. Started playing since preseason 7 for reference.

This could have worked out fine for them. IF they didn't made Arcane canon, which it never was intended to be. Or they could have kept the old machine herald and shown Viktor replace his Arcane corrupted parts with machines. Thus translating him to someone who would see magic not as salvation, but his machine innovations.

I just don't play league or touch anything Riot anymore, tbh

They bluntly just show that at the end of the day, its all just marketing for a product, which always comes first with "new shiny thing". The story or themes are meaningless. We started with a bunch of over the top cosplay friendly champions that covered the widest possible set of archetypes. Then we got a little of order after gangplanks rework but it all just went blended and distorted like World of Warcraft after Ruination, continuing until now. In terms of league Lore, there we will just see continuus retcons every couple of years until the IP dies. Nobody can run a story that is built from just cliffhangers for decades.

I think the "Just go next" mentality works in business, where sunk cost falacy can cost money. The related concept "fail fast", where plug is pulled for ideas that don't work, but the thing is that one also needs to learn fast from that failure. Thus "fail fast" has three elements: Trying, failure and learning. "Go next" seems to be just trying and failing with no learning. It is sad however that mindset has been able to seep into the game. People just giving up way too easily, because they don't understand the game. I think we can call these people losers.

Waaah the character no one played is different :(

When they reworked my main I did not play for a half a decade

Well thought out think piece until I saw you flash twitch on the screen and hope he doesn't get touched. That mfer needs more than one ability.

The video ending is so true. I remember riot taking wild rift teemo to league, and thankfully never left pbe

The shame of it too is that I'm not that excited for more movies/tv shows in the runeterra universe because it could just lead to some of my other favourite characters being deleted from the lore, let alone the game.

Everything stems from the misguided desire to make Arcane cannon out of nowhere when it never should've been.

Riot does not care about sustainability. They do not care about creating a game that could just continue existing without further input and be enjoyable. They do not care about creating champions and content that improves the longevity of the game. They do not care about champions providing unique power fantasies.

It's still a shame that an interesting IP/world such as Runeterra is stuck with League of Legends as their main game

people ask themselves why nobody cares.... but if Riot themselves don't care, why should we?

I’d give anything to get my old Asol back. Now he’s one of the easiest low skill champs of all time. I learned the game playing him having a 37% win rate in my first year of playing. Because Asol was such a high skill champ by year 3 I was around 62%. I will never forget what riot did to him and I won’t forgive it either. They killed my favorite star dragon… : ^)

but why they make viktor like op being when you already have darkin,demon,god and mage like xerath and ryze

I can't stand Riot's incessant need to scrap everything and start over. This is the kind of stuff you do when you're writing the story outline of a book, not an online game played by millions.

1:54 uh most would very much agree with you sure many fans don't like it when their champ gets a rework that makes a lot of changes but most would agree Viktor is LARGELY the one they changed the most for the LEAST reason the scientist self made pure engineer cyborg fantasy...is straight up erased. gone. u cant really say that for any other champ whats even more frustrating is that out of ALL the champs who NEEDED time to be developed Viktor arguably needed the most to explain his final state, yet got the least...At the pace the show was moving they really needed the adjust the trajectory and decrease the scope of the story to make it land, and to have the bandwidth to give Viktor attention. As much/little time Warwick got to evolve it worked..more or less. Viktor needed the same kind of build up if not more, yet it was basically all hand waved and scrunched up into a corner at the back end of the show. It makes one go back to all the other sections of the show and go...man did we really need them to spend that much time HERE, when it could have been dedicated to Viktor's evolution? lets not act like most reworks aren't an improvement in some way, especially if we are talking about lore/visuals...since Viktor's update really only buffs his existing kit, its not really fair to compare others on the same lv of "gameplay" ill lv with u tho, ADC graves was a lost. Galio could have kept more of his old personality and lore, but his gameplay needed updates and i don't understand whats wrong with Udyr since his lore is the same and he still has his stances? Aatrox lore was almost non-existant and ANY part of his old lore neatly fits into his new lore...his fantasy is still well an alive (gameplay arguably doesn't matter in this context but from a game health standpoint he IS better) Saying there's NO old Aatrox in the new one is just wrong, he still has his dive knock up when you combine his dash and Q3, and Q1 is basically the same as his old projectile, and he still has his steroid ult...the only thing gone besides the revive is the focus on right clicks, but nothing is stopping u from building Bloodthirster. Its the complete OPPOSITE for viktor since Vik's fantasy is a 180 At the very least they HAD a reason to change Aatrox even if people don't like it, he wasn't healthy for the game, a melee dps focused draintank that relies entirely on AA to sustain isn't healthy.

Been playing League for 11 years and I quit after I finished Arcane. Riot does not give half a flying rat shit about ANYTHING that made me love this game in the first place, they've shown time and time again that they can and will just throw those things away on a whim. It doesn't matter to them that people have spent a literal decade of their lives maining Viktor, because they have this new idea that is like, totally so cool, and they like, reaaallly wanna do it, so let's just remove Viktor from the game and put a completely different guy in his place. They will never address this btw. Christian Linke was on twitter and reddit basically telling people "I'm sorry you feel that way but I like the new Viktor more soooo"...

A few times I’m happy to be a Vel’koz and Gnar main. 😅

wow, i had no idea how much i shouldve hated all this stuff until you put it out plainly like that to read thanks, now i have even less faith in League as a whole than ever, that even their "good" decisions can lead to disastrous results

my bro is so ugly now, even though he has the same abilities, i can’t play him anymore, i just can’t look at his trash design 😂

The craziest thing about this for me and the reason I stopped playing league entirely after almost a decade, is that these can be paid things that riot can just change on a whim. Bot nunu used to be a really expensive skin for the time and the people who bought it had the skin changed to something completely different after the rework, which kinda begs the question of what are you really paying for when you buy a champion or a skin with money.

the decision to make arcane "cannon" was disastrous for league lore as a whole. I stopped playing league a while ago but I still watch some content about it and I watched arcane. It's not a bad show but they shouldn't have replaced the older league lore.

My problem with Arcane Viktor is that the whole idea of his character now is being the Zaun version of Malzahar

The rework of Skarner made me quit League. He was the only champion I have played for years and they removed him just before the new arena mode, whick I was super salty about

You don’t want to rework a champion an jsut copy paste it entire kit like mundo. Terrible rework.

1 thing. Viktor was not balanced, he was, in fact, pretty weak and unplayed, so I get the WHY of the rework, I just disagree with how it went. New Viktor isnt Viktor and could have had a much cooler kit given they were to rework him.

I dont really get Viktor's design. In act of arcane when the anomoly is popping off, all hextech devices were freaking out. Why not have them warp onto him? Turning him into a hextech infused person, forcing Jayce to one up the person who carried the hexcore part of hextech. Thus allowing him to still be mechanical in natural and not just magical and Hextech can exist outside of the conflict. Turning Viktor into a fully magical being wasnt needed and comes out of left field from everything pre-established and with what act 1started. Ontop of all this, Viktor's model ingame looks like shit. It doesnt match arcane viktor and the lack of reworks to abilities means that he doesn even work the same.

what i think would have worked is, if victor was sent to the alternate world jayce was sent to, and he slowly turns parts of his body into meachine seeing the horrors or arcane victor sees meachine is the future and as he himself turned himself into meachine he wants to spread the glory to others, and when he returns he meets amessa, and she is interested in augmented soilders and victor is interested in zaun artificial limbs and singed who can help him

While i'm not particularly upset about Viktor himself (i actually really enjoy his new character and design) i was very pleased to finally hear someone talk about the way riot just kind of does things and almost never goes back on those decisions. They made new viktor, and you can send some easily fixable feedback in the reddit thread. But for broad, sweeping changes it just is not possible. The thing is, it IS possible. but it's not PROFITABLE. They can absolutely go back and change viktor to resemble his old self. But it would also be flushing money down the drain to discard and change the work they spent many hours working on. I feel like this also represents a flaw in the general culture behind releases of game content in league. everything has to be a "release". A burst of new content to get engagement on the game going. Another way to do reworks is to broadly address concerns people have for the characters in terms of design. While still having the creatives taking Executive decisions. And nobody reading this should take this the wrong way, but it should remains at looking ag general fan feedback. There's a reason the fans aren't usually involved in the creative process. In the end. None of this will matter, because Viktors playrate has skyrocketed and skin sales are good. This is all the higher ups need to see to push more stuff like this, regardless of the opinions of creatives

To your point at around 3:30, I was an Evelynn player before she was deleted, I also mained Irelia and she was deleted, and I also played Aatrox and loved him and he was obliterated. Three of my favorite characters have just been entirely deleted from the game. Viktor was my favorite character from Zaun (overall) and my favorite character in the entirety of the league of legends short stories and they just, deleted him... :)

If there really is another Mechwarrior PvP game, I hope there's a bit of a narrative. Or you're a mercenary with a leopard and four AI teammates. AI teammates can be filled by live people, of course. And you travel around and do contracts. Maybe run into other mercs doing contracts and fight or work together. That'd be cool.

Every rework until now has been done with the purpose of modernizing the lore and game. Viktor was already modernized by LoR, but Arcane took a different direction at the last minute, and so it has been the first visual rework that deleted a perfectly respectable character in the modern lore while also breaking the promise of a unified universe without multi-canon.

They should de-canonize arcane 2, the fall in quality from arcane 1 to 2 is very noticiable, like, there is simply no way you can go back to the status quo of league after arcane's ending, how can vi be her happy go lucky self punching criminals and trying to catch jinx when she has this much trauma? How can cait be this steampunk parody when she was a literal fascist dictator for months? How do you reconcile warwick's design? And let's forget about viktor and jayce, how do you make them "the hero" and "the villain" after the ending? Too much stuff happened and that previous status quo needed a level of simplicity that has been lost

WW and Ezreal are the only two reworks that stuck the landing. And arcane was great until the end. It strayed to far away from season 1.

So glad to see others are talking about this as well. It is so sad seeing everyone jumping on the Arcane hype and accepting it as “the new canon,” when Riot has no idea what’s canon and are blatantly only pretending to care. If things don’t change, they WILL start retconning aspects of the show for the sake of some other project.