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Joe MAD style is very influenced by the Street Fighter games and Capcom Art Styles.

Glad I found this, great examination of a great creator!

Dudes! Terrific episode, MAD is one of my all time favorite artists, I collect all his work, in paper or digital, and you can find everything. I can´t wait for the second part. And I´m still waiting on the follow up on Bachalo´s work. Congrats!!

Even crazier, those MCP issues also features Jae Lee’s first work. Marvel was really testing the new crop of artists in that title.

I actually have a bunch of his books I got in dollar bins. What a great bargain! The one good thing about those 1990s comics, they are mostly cheap because they were mass produce. I definitely will be searching for more of his artwork. 👍

Will you return to looking at Bachalo's stuff someday?

1:51:43 Joe also developed something of an addiction to gaming to the point where he was so late Bob Harras threatened to kick him off the book.

1:30:12 There's an interview with Marc Silvestri in Comics interview 76 where he mentions he's got Joe Madureira slated to work on a book for him but Joe couldn't decide between a Velocity miniseries (Joe only ever did this pin-up, the book was eventually drawn by Anthony Chun) or a new idea Marc had called The Darkness. Ultimately Joe was offered the X-Men gig, but can you imagine him doing The Darkness?

Joe Mad was electric when he came onto Uncanny. I wasn't a huge Whilce fan, actively disliked Brando's work and didn't have much time for JRJr's second run at the time (noting about three "turn the comic" double page spreads per issue. Also...the stories as the books stumbled for meaning. Then Joe Mad. I didn't have a clue who Yukio was but she was great. Gambit was already a favourite and he made Storm a joy to look at. I followed him forever thereafter. Phalanx doesn't hold up but so much of his run does. That Destro pin-up too. So reminiscent of Golden's work (who was Adams' big influence)

Yes I mostly collect by artists joe Mad one of my favorite!

I’ve been wanting that Taschen book. I generally hit them up when they have sale. But they keep putting out new Marvel books I want more.

I love Windsor's work!

14:50 thanks to syndication (I think, to be honest I am not entirely clear on the specifics) top newspaper strip artists before television were millionaire celebrities many of them, as I understand. Guys like Hal Foster and Alex Raymond. There must still be good money in it, Mark Shultz and Thomas Yeates are the artists working on Foster's Prince Valiant strip nowadays; they can't come cheap.

Yay, part two! Commenting before watching, totally agree with the title!

I believe Bill Everett used that same underwater technique in Marvel Mystery comics 1 for the Namor story.

This is great and informative too, I'm so glad I've found this video. 30:25 Spawn's colorist, Dan Kemp, said he jokingly added in Easter eggs of Vanilla Ice in the background of Spawn #61-68. Kemp also added in photos of Todd McFarlane and Bruce Lee throughout these issues too.

Spawn 26 to about 32 is a high point for me. I was living in Barcelona for years and the one retailer with back issues (gone now) had a huge run of Spawn up to about 100. I dropped off about 40 (too much Tony Daniel). So I went through all those issues individually, from about 35, looking for the issues which did more than the minimum required and had some great stuff in. FWIW, those we 52 with Savage Dragon and 55 with a very gun laden, commando type thing happening. I REALLY want to know what's going to be in the Spawn Vault Edition 3. If it's 26 to 30 something, I'm probably gonna have to do it.

That Spawn 32 Splash is 107% McFarlane inks. Look at the marks on the lady's face! Also, McFarlane clearly inks the fun stuff. I love McFarlane's inks. Total nonsense and totally unique, certainly before him. If Richard Bennett makes everything look like metal, McFarlane makes everything look like wood.

Capullo is such a great storyteller. I was 17 when X-Force was coming out. I hated all the late Liefeld and then into Pacella work. Would have been interesting to see the work that preceded Capullo on X-Force for context but you jumped to the last issue of the run which he notably had some time crunch on. My memory of those issues lets me down. I loved them all. Look back at them now and I can see why but they're an unbearable slog to read. When he left for Spawn, he still did the covers for 26, 27, 28...and my mates and I were like "he's coming back. See. He's doing covers as a placeholder then coming back. You'll see...". It would be 30+ years until a non-McFarlane book (Batman) and I was totally there for it. I'll save Spawn comments for the next video but on the Morrison issues and Violator? Not for me. Tragic that Sears never got to finish that Violator mini. The Morrison issues were just so and the Houdini issues that got added to that run were so pretty and so bad. [n.b. The Fatman on Batman interview with Capullo from years back is an amazingly frank one]

To the surprise of absolutely no one, like a moth to a flame I am drawn to videos discussing arguably the greatest, most inventive cartoonist to have ever lived. 😀

When I lived in Jamaica, I used to collect the newspaper strips that would come in the weekly papers. I loved those things

Thank the RUclips algorith for giving me this video - loved watching this and hearing all your thoughts, as well as your memories from buying his work at the time! 😁

Great one guys !

Eric that robin is perfection

As a native NYer born and raised, I can say that alleys do exist out here. Anyway just stumbled across these videos today and I'm glad I did. Brought back a lot of memories, especially when y'all broke down the X-Force run cause I had a few of those issues being my 1st intro to Capullo.

Not sure if you mentioned it here, but there also exists a cassette-only audioplay of the first few issues. It GREATLY shaped the MTV adaptation. The cassette is intended to be listened to while reading the corresponding issues.

$2700 a week for a page is mind blowing hahaa

When I heard Spawn was changing artists I remember wishing it would be a totally different take, but despite Capullo taking on so many of Todd's mannerisms he grew on me and I think surpassed Todd.

This conversation is so frustrating to me, and revealing. I can't stand Greg Capullo's art, it's too busy, it's too cartoony, it's too black. But then I'm looking at it closer, and listening to your enthusiasm, and it's making sense. I'm loving the exaggeration, I'm loving the busy, I'm loving the black. Really weird how I as an artist would never suggest this art to somebody, but then at the same time, admire it the more I look at it. I can't buy Capollo's art most days, but now I am really tempted to buy everything I can find.

1:03:00 Greg Capullo has been married to the SAME woman, Jamie, for decades!!!!

Just discovered your channel. I enjoyed the artist perspective of the discussion. I’ve been rereading this run recently myself. It definitely holds up.

Just a little correction: The cover of AARGH is by Dave McKean. Bill Sienkiewicz contributed an illustration.

Todd hired him in Spawn. Without Spawn nobody would care about Capullo.

His work on Wolverine’s Revenge is 💩. Don’t think so, then stare at that issue #2 cover. The man hasn’t showed up for work, he’s in retirement mode.

Based on everything Ive seen or read about it, it sounds like it would be an absolutely joyless experience working with Alan Moore.

I'm so glad I found this channel. Helps to fill the void left behind by Cartoonist Kayfabe a little bit. Looking forward to more episodes!

Man. This was fun. Capullo started off so good.

Cant wait for part 2, where im assuming you guys cover him finding his groove on Spawn, adding some Mcfarlaneisms & grit and the artwork going to the next level and become crazier. My favorite period of his career..

I’d love to see an episode spotlighting Chris Sprouse

I loved Capullo’s work on Quasar from the start, as well as the evolution in X-Force. A master.

The art in that What If number 2 was Somme of the greatest I’d ever seen in a monthly at that time.

Its very interesting to hear all three of you talk about these artists and era's of their work. Compiling interviews and doing research. And yes understandably some of what you speak on is filling in the gaps. What stands out to me, having worked for the big 2, and different editors is that making comics for these companies is a machine. They 'may' have an overall aesthetic at the time, a look the artist might be told to go for. Or maybe the editor gives the artist total freedom. Usually the editor likes the artists work but is focused on keeping pages coming in. The editor may love the 'Mucha' style your bringing into the page designs, but at the end of the day s/he'll say 'Cut that out and give me more pages!!!' I have worked on books where the publisher had the loudest voice, sometimes the editor, sometimes its the penciler. All depends. In the case where pages are due overnight, none of that matters. LOL I guess what I'm pointing out is that there's so much more to 'where the art is directed' then just the artists skill alone.

hell yes

You should also probably cover: Simon Bisley John Cassaday Tony Moore Their suggestions that i picked😅

Jerusalem is worth the read.

You know, if this was reprinted as a trade paperback, I’d get it for the art and go through it with your videos as a readalong. I’ve gotten more out of your video storywise than when I was trying to get into it first time round

I am reminded of the types of novels Zadie Smith, Franzen, and DFW would write a few years to a decade later when hearing about the story. Wild stuff

Having watched you guys go through the book talking about what Moore wanted to go with it based off his notes I've come to the conclusion that the book really is a pretentious piece of shit and wouldn't have worked if they had been able to finish it. I've read the 3 issues online multiple times, they've never connected with me, I could never remember what happened in any of them. It's kinda confusing because of how many characters there are and the structure of it is all over the place. If I'm being honest , they're kinda tedious to read through. I love Alan Moore (not a hater) but he's not perfect and this feels like him buying his own hype and trying to do something more adult and just coming up with something extremely self indulgent and navel gazey. I think the fact that everything around this book melted down and abandoned the book and Moore, including 2 artist, 2 publishers, 2 women he was sleeping with. Mad Love and Tundra both went out of business, Sienkiewicz was pretty much done with comics after this, He did that Jimi Hendrix book, and what else since then? That Daredevil graphic novel he did was done a few years before this. Al Columbia had a nervous breakdown and committed career suicide. And of course his wife left him and ran off with his girlfriend with all his money! Just kinda a bad idea for a book, but no one was willing to tell him he was being boring and pretentious and the book wasn't working and it drove everyone around insane. Kinda feels like he's trying to do his own version of Cages by Dave Mckean?

I love Bacahlo's art

Clair Noto wrote one of the most infamous unproduced scripts in Hollywood history. Called “The Tourist,” it was originally going to be made by Ridley Scott after Blade Runner and Giger did the production design art. Much of which can still be found online. The script is crazy. Very much like a serious version of Men in Black. Its bones were picked over time by other Scifi projects, sadly.