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Hello my friends and welcome to the Simulated Driving Resource channel. My name is Michael, aka Neosphinx, and I run this channel.
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The channel bring you reviews, news and specials about sim-racing and simulated driving hardware.
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Thank you all and enjoy the drive!
Special: GT7 patch 1.49 nerfed TrueForce on Logitech G Pro and Thrustmaster T-DFB
Enhanced physics. I was actually very excited about this update but it seems the enhanced physics is not the only thing they did which effects the gameplay... unfortunately.
add: It seems Thrustmaster T-DFB is also impacted. See comments.
#trueforce #logitech #gpro #gt7 #granturismo7 #simracing #thrustmaster #t-dfb
add: It seems Thrustmaster T-DFB is also impacted. See comments.
#trueforce #logitech #gpro #gt7 #granturismo7 #simracing #thrustmaster #t-dfb
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Versus: Thrustmaster Ferrari 488 GT3 vs Ferrari F1 2011 wheel add-on
Просмотров 65921 день назад
Finding a good steering wheel is not easy. The latest Ferrari 488 GT3 steering wheel of Thrustmaster seems to be good on paper, but how does it perform against the older Ferrari F1 2011 steering wheel? 00:01:30 Buttons and shifters 00:04:17 Performance Ferrari F1 2011 00:07:08 Performance Ferrari 488 GT3 00:09:52 Compatibility 00:10:13 Known issues 00:10:55 Conclusion #thrustmaster #488 #f1 #si...
Versus: Simagic Alpha Mini vs Logitech G Pro
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.Месяц назад
A thorough comparison between two wheelbases of the mid-high segment. Widely regarded as one of the best wheelbases sold at the moment: how does the Simagic Alpha Mini measure up to the Logitech G Pro with its TrueForce? 00:00:18 Design 00:00:45 Build quality 00:01:39 Performance 00:05:37 Software 00:06:33 Compatibility 00:07:16 Eco-system 00:08:50 Known issues 00:09:49 Pricing and availability...
Versus: Fanatec ClubSport v.3 vs MOZA CRP
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.Месяц назад
An in depth comparison between the flagship pedals of both Fanatec and MOZA. 00:00:17 Design 00:02:25 Build quality 00:03:30 Performance and configuration 00:06:46 Features 00:08:23 Options 00:09:05 Pricing and availability 00:09:29 Compatibility 00:10:08 Conclusion MOZA affiliate: mozaracing.com/?ref=neosphinx Fanatec affiliate: tinyurl.com/yc6ss6aw #moza #fanatec #crp #clubsport #versus
Versus: Playseat Trophy vs GT Omega Titan
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.Месяц назад
An in depth comparison between the two best bang for buck tubular frames that you can buy at the moment: the GT Omega Titan versus the Playseat Trophy. A full review for both is also available on the channel. 00:00:17 Design 00:01:09 Configuration 00:02:25 Build quality 00:03:50 Footprint 00:04:43 Features 00:05:09 Options 00:06:14 Pricing and availability 00:06:48 The biggest difference 00:08:...
Versus: Thrustmaster T-DFB vs Logitech TrueForce
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.2 месяца назад
If you are a fan of haptic feedback, you might want to learn a bit more about T-DFB and TrueForce. In this video, I try to compare them and highlight the positive and negative points. 00:00:48 Technology 00:01:17 How does it feel? 00:07:43 Compatibility 00:08:37 Logical evolution 00:10:05 Conclusion #trueforce #t-dfb #logitech #thrustmaster #simracing #versus
Review: Simagic Alpha Mini v.1
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.2 месяца назад
If you haven't seen the brand Simagic pop up when looking at simulated driving hardware for PC, you probably must have lived under a rock the last year. The Alpha Mini is the smallest direct drive the company is offering and as usual, I try to find out what people like about it. 00:00:22 Design 00:02:53 Technology 00:03:23 Performance ACC 00:07:50 Performance BeamNG 00:13:24 Compatibility 00:14...
Review: BeamNG.drive career mode
Просмотров 2722 месяца назад
I would call BeamNG .drive the ultimate driving simulator. It features so many different types of simulations that it has something for any type of driver out there to enjoy. With the addition of the career mode, things just got even better. 00:00:28 What is it about? 00:00:55 Laborer tasks 00:03:05 Motorsports tasks 00:03:52 Specialized tasks 00:04:45 Adventurer tasks 00:05:22 Tuning, customiz...
Versus: CAMMUS C12 vs CAMMUS DDWB21
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.3 месяца назад
The DDWB21 was the first base that was introduced by CAMMUS. How does it compare to the newer C12? Find out in this video. 00:00:36 Design 00:02:20 Technology 00:03:52 Driving Experience 00:09:35 Eco-system 00:10:44 Software 00:11:14 Conclusion Cammus C12 ruclips.net/video/Hf4TKkud_YE/видео.htmlsub_confirmation=1 Cammus DDWB21 ruclips.net/video/PqOkZMXduUw/видео.htmlsub_confirmation=1 CAMMUS af...
Special: How to improve your driving experience with a webcam
Просмотров 6273 месяца назад
I don't have room to put a triple screen setup for my simulated driving and a VR headset tends to make me motion-sick. Learn how to improve your immersion for sim-racing with just a webcam and 2 pieces of software. 00:00:24 The principle 00:00:58 Requirements 00:01:22 Implementation and configuration Opentrack github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases AITrack github.com/AIRLegend/aitrack/releases...
TROLL Review: MOZA R3
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.3 месяца назад
After a long wait, the R3 is finally available for purchase. This video was made in a satirical way before any information was known and because there was a lot of demand for clarification. Use the link to the MOZA shop to sponsor the channel: mozaracing.com/?ref=neosphinx #moza #mozar3 #r3 #review #directdrive
Special: How to improve your driving experience with haptics
Просмотров 5523 месяца назад
While traditional wheelbases are already very good at making you feel the car you are driving, other body parts may feel a bit excluded. In order to fix that, you might consider adding some additional haptic feedback to your setup. 00:00:38 Extra wheelbase haptics 00:03:31 Pedal haptics 00:06:03 Bass shaker 00:09:14 Seat haptics 00:11:41 Conclusion Next Level Racing HF8 ruclips.net/video/QPfmpD...
Special: The best wheelbase 2024
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.3 месяца назад
With this video, I will try to give you a good start in simulated driving or sim-racing. I explain what wheelbases are good for both the entry level and more advanced level. To end the video, I will also provide you with some tips. 00:00:32 Entry-level wheelbases 00:05:37 Advanced wheelbases 00:08:47 Tips 00:10:57 The future Thrustmaster T300 ruclips.net/video/SxPnHlkC8jU/видео.htmlsub_confirma...
Special: The best sim-racing cockpit 2024
Просмотров 7 тыс.4 месяца назад
I get asked quite a lot what the best simrigs and cockpits are out there to buy so this year again, I made a video explaining what I think is the best hardware out there for your specific needs. I included 4 different categories and suggest a best bang for buck and overall best option out of all the hardware I have tested. 00:00:45 Wheelstand 00:02:45 Foldable cockpits 00:06:12 Tubular cockpits...
Review: SimXpro GT-RS
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.4 месяца назад
The GT-RS is a driving simulation cockpit that jumps out between the competition in the 4080 profile cockpit segment with its colors, form and very attractive price. It got me intrigued so I had to buy it. 00:00:15 Configuration 00:01:56 Build quality 00:03:37 The build 00:04:08 Features 00:05:13 Options 00:06:00 Footprint 00:06:37 The service 00:07:43 Price 00:08:03 Negative points 00:08:58 Co...
Review: Next Level Racing F-GT Elite wheel plate edition
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.4 месяца назад
Review: Next Level Racing F-GT Elite wheel plate edition
Review: Taxi Life - A city driving simulator (Barcelona)
Просмотров 5834 месяца назад
Review: Taxi Life - A city driving simulator (Barcelona)
Versus: Thrustmaster T818 vs CAMMUS C12
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Versus: Thrustmaster T818 vs CAMMUS C12
Review: Next Level Racing GTRacer
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Review: Next Level Racing GTRacer
Versus: Thrustmaster T128 vs Logitech G29
Просмотров 13 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Versus: Thrustmaster T128 vs Logitech G29
Special: The best sim racing and sim driving hardware of 2023
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Special: The best sim racing and sim driving hardware of 2023
Versus: Next Level Racing GT Lite Pro vs Playseat Challenge X
Просмотров 14 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Versus: Next Level Racing GT Lite Pro vs Playseat Challenge X
C42: 50 minutes of jazzy Holiday music
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C42: 50 minutes of jazzy Holiday music
Review: Playseat Challenge X Logitech edition
Просмотров 8 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Review: Playseat Challenge X Logitech edition
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I bought the Moza r9 + es+ srp pedals and clutch pedal and that’s cheaper than fanatec csl dd + boost kit
@@user-qp8wz8qz3m depends from region to region but that seems to be a good price then
I feel like it's about the options in the wheel area. Simagic is kind of a beast to compare too there.
For sure. Simagic spends a lot of time and effort on their eco-system whereas Logitech... Well... they will get there... some day 😏
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I've been shopping for dd wheel and every big sim channel reviews sim magic as the better wheel base due to how it interprets data from games and it's getting better so I have decided to go with simagic based on price to performance.
Well, every reviewer has their own opinion ofcourse. Enjoy the ride friend. The alpha mini is a fantastic ride
I have a t gt2 and I don’t get any vibrations over kerbs or anything. Is this still an issue after the update or am I got wrong settings
Did you have them before or did you never had any to start with? You should have some feedback there normally, it was more with the shifting that there were issues. Make sure the vibration settings of the controller are high enough.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I have tried the controller vibration setting 0 - max with no difference. The force feedback when driving is fine it’s just the kerb strikes etc nothing happens. Using the pad is actually better for feeling the kerbs and shifting vibrations lol
Gt rs or simlab gt1 evo pls ?
@@Glamoxe GTRS more innovative design. Better config possibilities. Smaller footprint. Imo better and more stable wheelbaseholder. Some nice design touches
@@SimulatedDrivingResource and the pedals is more solid than the gt1 evo with a 100kg load cell ?
The pedal plate of the gtrs are made out of 2 pieces of 4040 and 1 piece of 4080 profile. This adds alot to the rigidity. It also features a lot of attachment points which is necessary because there are no support beams at the front. The SimLab however does have support beams but with a thinner plate to attach the pedals themselves. Because it are 2 different mechanisms, it is hard to say which is more sturdy. The usage of the extrusion beams to attach the pedals or pedal plate to is stronger than the SimLab pedal plate but the flex of the attachment itself on the SimLab is slightly less.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks you 🙏
Hello, can you tell me please if the holes for fixing a trhustmaster ts-xw and a TLCM are present on playseat challenge X
@@user-ys7qr2yd8j i currently am abroad so I cant test but as far as I read, with turning the braces outwards it should work for the pedals. TM wheelbase are no issue
@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks a lot
Do you know if the single integrated monitor mount is any good?
No experience with it unfortunately
@@SimulatedDrivingResource what about the SimXPro GT Seat? Great review btw, keep up with the good work 👍
@@HelderAC i bought the GTRS with the generic recliner but the X80 i tested with the GT seat. It was very comfortable actually and as far as I remember also good quality
Can i use a R12 Direct Drive Wheel Base on it?
Structure is solid. I wouldnt say the best but it will handle it.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource And there are screw holes patterns for the Moza D12?
I just bought the r5 bundle for a discount only for 400€. I think it was a great deal.
No disagreement from me there
Leaving your foot on the clutch and brake pedals while you don't press them, is a bad habit on real driving. You will eventually damage your car. Try to move your left foot outside on the footrest just after depressing a pedal. Your pedals could have stronger springs for you to be in comfort, but this is not how real cars work. Just learn how to drive properly and avoid bad driving habits like this that will eventually destroy your clutch plates or make the brakes hot (depending on which pedal you rest your left foot). I agree for the little rubber, one should make the mod with rubber piece to make the brake pedal on the end of its travel more realistic.
The quick release system looks very high quality. It's sad how logitech is ignoring it.
It seems that new peripherals, including at least one new wheel, are just around the corner.
Just be glad they didnt steal your Torque. My G923 has like 65% less Torque after 1.50 and it makes the game suck now.
which do you think is better for a 6' 1" 215 guy? thank you
I think from personal view that the Playseat will feel less restraint than the NLR. I take it you have broad shoulders too.
hi , it better than the tr80 lite ? both its same price 400euro
I think so. It offers some extra configuration and extra stability of the vertical beams. For SimXpro I also have a voucher 6%-SDR2024 .
@@SimulatedDrivingResource nice thank you also the black powder
@@manil.777 absolutely. TR should be more scratch resistant but I have my doubts.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource the tr80 lite for me in italy shipping cost 45€ , sim x pro shipping cost 20€ … i think its better take simxpro gt rs because the shipping cost its way more cheaper then trak racer for my location! Italy Liguria.
Also if i take the tr80lite with a seat the shipping cost is 200€.. for my location , simxpro better shipping price then al other rigs for my location ..
Fanatec has done worse
I have not seen any issues there. Can you elaborate?
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I mean that Fanatec have influenced Polyphony to nerf Logitech. Fanatec have done much worse things like neglect customers as well
@@001sander2 certainly. Customer support at Fanatec has been nerfed for a few years already. But I have to stress, its only a theory I have. I dont want to point fingers with only theories.
Yep I’m pissed , game is unplayable
Thank you for this great video and thank you for all of the information. PlaySeat USA is currently out of stock on the All Black PlaySeat but I have signed up to be notified when they are in stock. The weight and smaller profile work best for me. I am only using it for GT7 on PS5 with the either the Grand Turismo DD Pro or the Fanatec Grand Turismo DD Extreme and the Fanatec Club Sport V3 pedals. I do not plan on running it at 15 nm. but more like 10 nm if I go with the Extreme.
@@richeyrich6855 am sure it will handle it like a champ. You wont regret it. Dont forget there is also the Logitech edition.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Copy that but I like the all black, it matches my all black Nissan 370z Touring Sport 😎
which wheel were you using in the video?
@@ilnikogo7034 a Thrustmaster T248 with T3PM pedals
I’ve had one for a while - built a PVC pipe mount for a moulded seat that hooks to it. Works well.
If it works, it works 👍
I have a dedicated rig for my PS5 and there were a half dozen times or so in the past, when booting up the game, it was like my G-pro wasn't fully recognized. The full 11N/m was present. Absolutely no Trueforce. Very numb feeling. I simply rebooted the game and wheel and everything was fine. I initially thought that maybe turning on the wheel before the console or poor connections was causing the issue but I never really figured out why that was happening. After the 1.49 update, there is no mistaking the feel for those previous "anomalies". The wheel feels just like those times. I would describe it as it's connecting like a generic controller. No matter how much you play with the settings it will make very little difference in feel. I am also convinced there is simply NO Trueforce implementaion at all. Another thing is..I remember with a previous update, GT7 dialed back the FFB strength for fear of people being injured with Direct Drive wheels with peaks being like 6.0Nm and averages 3.5-4.5. Now all of a sudden they are giving us the full strength capabilities. What happened to not wanting sued for injuries??? Regardless..I used to play every single day now someone at Polyphany screwed something up and they have effectively ruined the game for me at this point and I have lost all interest in turning it on. There is no communication and I feel like they just don't care all that much. I wish the update never happened personally.
That should ofcourse never happen. Is it possible your wheelbase may need a firmware update?
@@SimulatedDrivingResourceI forgot to mention that. I did do that but I felt no changes. Although for some reason I initially had trouble getting my wheel to communicate with G-hub due to a missing driver. Did you do a firmware update after 1.49 and did you notice any improvement?
@@joshriver75 ok because that would be my main guess when hearing issues like that. No, the firmware of my wheelbase was already up-to-date so I dont really have a before and after image. While there is the issue of the TF, the rest of the FFB feels very good to me so I am really surprised somewhat by your experience 😕
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I suppose I should double check the firmware.
Not only did they nerf the trueforce but they’ve given us the full strength of the wheel, only problem is things like kerbs and collisions and tire slip to tire grip is exaggerated too much. Violently ripping at your hands. Reduce those peaks, bring back trueforce. And not to complain but why keep updating physics? Why not do your absolute best off the bat and quit mucking about with our tunes. They update and everyone has to learn how to drive again. It’s all muscle memory, it seems like just as you get it down they update and you’re backing to learning it all over again. Yes it’s minor adjustments but damn, enough with it you guys.
I understand the remark. But in all fairness, looking at the sim-racing community, the physics in GT7 were frowned upon and even ridiculed for it being more like a simcade instead of simulator. For me this is a dumb thing to say because I think this made it open to more people, making the treshold lower. On the other hand, I do really like the changes they did too. Unfortunately, you can't do good for all.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource the problem is it’s not what people bought. I’d prefer it more sim like (I still don’t think they’ve got it 100% yet. But the frustrating thing is it’s ever changing. I have a friend that has sim raced for years, after the new update and all the changes and glitches to the game / cars he seems to have just quit playing. His reasoning, make up your mind and quit messing with it, making changes is admitting you didn’t finish the game. I agree, why are they making changes? Who are they listening to that makes them decide we better change the physics yet again? The problem for me is my wheel feels completely different, I paid a lot of money for that, I just wanted full strength unlock but they had to go and change everything. The wheel feels good but at times it just doesn’t. We buy the game, we are either all disappointed in it or we aren’t. Keep changing it and we’re all gonna be disappointed with it at some point in time after the endless physic updates. People defend the cars launching into the sky as a glitch… well guess what the old physics engine or suspension model didn’t do that so which one is better?
As I said, I completely understand your gripe and that of your friend. Change is never easy, especially for those that didnt ask for it in the first place. In their mind, after a process of consulting "someone", the change was seen as a process to make things better. Did they or didnt they... that is personal but I can only encourage you and your friend to voice your opinion on their forum too as I doubt they will be interested in the comments of my video.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource yeah just venting, sorry about that. That’s gaming these days, buy GT7, years later they could update it into Contra.
No idea what you people are on about. in game on 125 and wheel on 40 and more than enough vibrations. Admittedly i only drive the race cars not road but i get plenty of vibrations from the kerbs etc
Its not the kerbs. Kerbs are fine and even better as they are mostly generated by the standard ffb in combo with the TF. Its the shifting and revving effect
Your theory is most likely correct. Why else would they take it away.
We will see I guess. With the amount of "negative" feedback PD receives for this topic, they will need to do "something"
I have turned TF to 75 in game from 35. It seems to work okay but my steering is bad, so my force feedback is all weird. The game is making my steering angle input go all over the place until I pause the game or go into the pits. For instance the Honda RA272 is saying 420 degrees of steering. It was super hard even to get gold in the time trial! is anybody else suffering with this?
Yup my Logitech g29 feels light and unrealistic now even at high ffb
For the G29, i would have expected for it to feel better honestly. The general FFB has been improved
@@SimulatedDrivingResource i dont feel connected to the road anymore after the update. Tyre feedback is unrealistic and unreliable.
I’ve had my DDWB15 and 3 pedals for two years now. Has served me well. One major advantage over the C12 is I can go and add a different wheel to the base. I added the Moza KS by using the Moza Hub since as you pointed out, Cammus has been slow and I produce/release peripherals. But, DDWB is also better for drifting. It used a NRG quick release so it’s compatible with real car wheels. Having buttons on the base is perfect for teleport to pit if you’re about to crash in a tandem. I have a wheel with no shifters or button box for my drifting. 3 wheels with quick release. C12 can’t do that.
Absolutely. It is a very fine base with a lot of potential and the only base that I tested which has those useful buttons and Rotary encoders on the base itself. I only wish it wouldnt weigh a ton. I believe that is also why I favor the C12 as my standard for driving. I have to swap a lot for testing and the C12 is easily added and removed from my rig. I really hope Cammus starts getting the love from the community they deserve soon.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I mean your use case as a content creator although valid, not typical of your audience. Point that out in your script but don’t cite it as a negative for normal use. I mean, is it way heavier than all the Fanatec and Simagic and Moza bases with similar Nm output? Being heavy can mean it feels solid and durable. Something you’d want for 15Nm peek.
😏 very good comment. The weight is indeed linked in this case for me swapping bases but the form factor is also decissive for those that want to have their screen close and/or compact. You can't put a ddwb on a playseat challenge for example while it is possible with a c12. If it is recommended is another thing. And if I do a versus with a Moza or Fanatec, it will be of course less of a point as you say.
I was using the DriveHub adapter prior to 1.49 to give me the full 11nm of FFB. I still got the full Trueforce, as well. Now that PD have nerfed TF, I might go back to using the DH (which I'd temporarily discarded( to regain the Trueforce (and still have the 11nm). Iroinic, heh?
Hmmmm i didnt even know Drivehub also allowed for the Trueforce emulation. Then again, it emulates a controller so I guess it makes sense 😅
TF is super strong now. But I don’t like it. If I remove one hand from the wheel, it begins to shake violently. Does anyone else have this problem?
@@la8208 that is not because of TrueForce. Put the sensitivity of the wheelbase higher (4-5). If that doesnt solve it, add some more dampener.
TGT2 is ok
I will need to test since some also say t-dfb is not OK after update.
Forums say to put the vibration back to 100 from 150 inside the vibration settings from GT7, it seems to bring back a lil more again but im not totally sure, the curb rails dont vibrate like they used to regardless on my TGT2 but its seems to have you feel a lil more of the road surface itself going back down to 100. I sure hope they bring it back or strenghten it again at least to where it used to be like this its hard to feel good about driving in GT7 even though the handling of the cars themselves got more interresting.
I wish you posted this before I bought my wheel. I was looking for this exact comparison, but it was hard to find. The good news is that I went with the Logi G Pro, so this confirms I made the right choice. :-)
@@Pooz30 absolutely. The exclusiveness of the T-DFB kills it really. You will be happy if you decide to change games.
Hey, I'm a new sim racer and im about ti buy a racing wheel. What wheel would u prefer, The G29 or the T128?
Hard choice friend.... the drive of the T128 feels better but the steering wheel and pedals of the g29 feel better. If I would need to choose, g29... I really didnt like the small plastic steering wheel and pedals of the t128. But a pro-tip, look at second hand market. Good bargains to be found there
@@MiguelBarraca I had the same question, and decided to go for T128 as it has a better technology hybrid gear and belt driven whereas the g29 is a gear driven, a little older and noisy technology. The FFB is pretty amazing and the size and material I didn’t honestly have an issue with, the grip was pretty okay and the size it’s comfortable. Price wise you can buy a T128 brand new for a less compared to g29 used. So the best value for me was T128.
As with many of the versus video's, it is personal choice.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Exactly, and your video was one of the resources that helped me. Thank you. I’d have to add one more thing, probably it’s a topic you can make a video about. Actually, lot of newbies to the sim racing are unaware about the fact that despite whatever wheel they buy, tweaking the settings is important for each game. Example, I bought T128 to mainly play Forza Motorsport, the stock settings were very difficult to handle with, had to do some research and find the right settings to match the wheel, it was day and night difference between default settings and adjusted settings.
I think they (PD) have been trying to remove the advantage; We could also have had vibration when the ABS or TCS is engaged, but this only comes through on the Pad (Controller)... I'm having to use SimHub to try to simulate this 🫤
Hello there! Been watching some of your videos from Belgium too and I am planning to get the Logitech G Pro Wheel, I really need a folding rig and saw your review on the Playseat Challenge X, do you think the rig can handle the G Pro wheel decently? Thank you so much! :)
Always nice to get comments from my fellow countrymen 😎 "decently" is a broad word. It will flex, obviously, because the way it is made (foldable) but its the most user-friendly, foldable and Storable solution out there for the moment. If you have some dedicated space I would dare recommend a (second hand) Playseat Trophy.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Okay thank you very much for your advice! I will measure my space and if it's okay I shall look at the 2nd hand market for the Playseat Trophy! Enjoy for your great videos :)
I initially had my G Pro mounted to a Next Level Racing GT Lite foldable rig. I ended up using rachet straps to vastly reduce flex. It was still there, but if braced properly you can get away with a foldable rig/G Pro combination.
Yeah but the part that opens and closes still is a very weak point in the setup. You could reinforce it but it would mean setting it up again makes it much more hard imo 😕
@@supercededman oh that’s nice to hear, I’m gonna measure once I’m back home to see if a trophy fits because it looks like a relatively not hugeee rig either, but double the price of the foldable ones 🥲
I have the Logitech Pro. I find the GR1 and GR2 cars at above 225 MPH are very difficult in straight line, incredible vibrations and shaking, have tried many settings and no control. PS where did you find the Logitech recommended settings after patch?
They posted it. But in all fairness it doesnt change that much for TF www.tiktok.com/@logitechg/video/7395985823985896750
@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks for the information. Unless you are the Incredible Hulk could not bare 11 N/M of torque. I am simply too old for that 🤣🇨🇦
Bringing up the sensitivity (4-5) and damper a bit may help with the oscillations too with those powerful cars
put controller sensitivity in game on 5 force ff in game 10 and torc 6 then on your wheel put dampener up around 25 tf audio turn up and ffb between 7 an 9 no need too ever go too 11 unless you want too wear you stuff out
@@Rickk69er Try writing again using , and .
I have a Logitech G pro which I loved the extra revving, curbing and shifting rumbles only G Pro provided, yet… After a month of joy my Logitech G Pro wheel lost its connection to the base therefore it became broken… Since I live in a country with draconian custom legislation I could not receive any help from Logitech. Therefore I bought a Fanatech DD+, obviously fullforce still not being implemented, I missed those extra rumblings a lot yet found relatively more informatif force feedback settings on DD+. My guess is: Since those extra rumblings require a lot of force to be produced far more faster, they may wear out the wheel connection and/or base motor far more than usual force feedback. So, all the companies involved may still scratching their heads about how to implement those jolty feedbacks without destroying the mechanisms (Those could be so powerful so they can shake the whole cage!) Thanks for the video🖖
Ha. I had never even thought of the extra wear&tear it would generate but you are absolutely right. It would be a valid reason to nerf it!! 👍👍 sorry about your loss though...its very expensive 🥺
Prior to the update I had the wheelbase true force at 100 and the in game vibration at 35 as LogiRich recommends and I loved it. After the update, LogiRich recommended in game vibration maxed at 150, but I found it to be too aggressive compared to the update. So I’m running it at 100 now and I find it’s perfect. Even more noticeable than pre-pre update. I’m actually confused by everyone’s comments on this.
A lot of people (including myself) can feel a difference though. TF is very subjective so that probably explains it.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I definitely feel the difference, and it’s clear that it was nerfed. If I run it at 35 the way I did pre-update I would feel the same as others. I guess I just can’t wrap my head around why people want or need more than we are getting? If 150 is too intense for me as it is. I couldn’t imagine wanting more. I’d love to see them do more fine details with the true force and add some more layers to the fidelity, but during intense moments of traction loss, I don’t need it to feel like my entire rig is shaking loose.
I followed LogiRich's suggestions, too. Ended up doing the same as you, too. Perfect.
You guys are correct for sure. You want to find that Balance between TF and the regular FFB but still, I do miss the jolts when shifting gears. I think that is the main gripe i have with it atm
@@SimulatedDrivingResource agreed, I’d love to feel more shift jolt that varied depending on car, power, tires, etc… it would help simulate g force.
My TGT II is awesome after the update
Agreed, sooo much better
For force feedback, yes, but also for T-DFB?
you can beat those spinning motors on fanatec v3
Don't beat them... they will break 😲
Same experience. Testing out different setting recommendations. I hope they patch it. I want the full Trueforce back.
Absolutely. I only wonder why they saw the need to do it. Afaik everyone was happy about it and with the settings on the G Pro you could adapt it to your liking if it was too strong. Mind-boggling.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource you think it was intentional? I was guessing it was an unintentional bug/mistake when they unlocked the full strength of the wheel
@@stnleyb don't think so. They were not aiming at TrueForce alone, T-DFB of Thrustmaster has Same issue. In all honesty, and it is only speculation ofcourse but I think it is more related to the introduction of FullForce from Fanatec. Either way, they need to correct it and rather sooner than later
So fullforce works?
@@Bayr0n unfortunately, I have no Fanatec base to test it
Totally agree. The physics update improved the wheel so much, but the True Force nerf on GPro Wheel ruined it. I hope next update adds this piece back. Sooner the better. Subscribed.
Hello KaMiKa, I have a the Pro Wheel in my Cart and I already ordered the Pro Pedals on sale at Best Buy but should I just hold off on the Pro Anything at the moment? It seems like they really Screwed it up after update 1.49 & 1.50. At this point I'm ready to just buy a G923 and wait until after October to see what Logitech is doing after the Germany Sim Expo.
@@richeyrich6855 no. Go ahead and do the purchase now since they are discounted through the logi play days too. Some people who didn't have the true force set so high like I did, didnt even notice. It's still a perfect wheel for Gran Turismo 7
@@KaMiKaZeBeAtS001 Thank you, Sir I actually ordered Pro Wheel & Pedals at full price through Best Buy for the store pick up and lost out on $180 savings directly through Logitech America because I read a ton of bad deliveries stories because of FedEx Ground which would have delivered here to my office. If they were using UPS I would have bought them directly through Logitech because our UPS driver is here twice a day and would never leave our packages outside. Thanks again!
Had my C5 for 6 months. Had to replace both shifter paddles which was free from a reseller. All in all, its brilliant. No overheating issues for me. I didn't get the pedals as I already have some T3PA pro's, but the wheel (which replaced an owned from 2008 release DFGT) is outstanding. Would reccomend to anyone on a budget. Its far better than the budget Fanatec or Moza. I believe all new C5's have the V2 paddle shifters installed as standard
Glad to hear that. I am not sure all C5 have v2 paddles installed and even how the v2 pedals look like. I will check on this. And I share that recommendation. Fantastic piece of technology for a soft price.
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Late to the party but I just wanted to thank you for an excellent video! I'm in the market for a pedal upgrade and your video cleared up any hesitation there was to spend the money between the T3PM and the TLCM pedals. Was just what the doctor ordered to come to an informed decision. Thanks so much!
Very glad I could help you with taking a decission. Enjoy the drive friend 💙
Fanatec filed bankruptcy don't think they'll be implementing Full Force any time soon
Insolvency but they are still continuing their operations. They are still counting on a take-over by Corsair.
Trueforce still perform the same on my G923, I can still feels kerbs and everything without changing any setting after update (even feels more details because of the physics change), seems like they only nerfed the G Pro wheel...Will definitely try it when I get my G Pro wheel back......Very sad news for people who used to max out that setting
So you still feel the jolts when shifting on the G923? So strange that they nerf it on 1 but not the other steering wheel. I really wonder what their reasoning is for doing so
@@SimulatedDrivingResource There's never really a clear jolts when shifting a old manual car which I usually drove, maybe was in some GT car but I can't remember what it used to feel like , the thing I can comfirm is the Curbs rumble are still there (on G923 at least) which is the most important to me
You can't really compare the TrueForce on the G29 to the Pro, its a completely different system. The Trueforce post update remains on the G29, but it was hardly noticeable in the first place.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource just checked, the jolts is there, but more like hit or miss for me(I feel like is always like this), I can feel it in some track with some car. for example, I can always feel Ferrari VGT jolts in the beginning of the race when AI is shifting it, but after the race start and I took over I can’t always feel it, but never felt it at all when racing with 787b (tested with g923)
@@SimulatedDrivingResource don’t know if you read this but I tested with the G pro wheel and can confirm the curb rumble is still there but the gear shift jolts is totally gone, even worst than g923 (g923 set at 75, g pro wheel 150)
I really hope they fix True Force. It’s so bland now.
Agreed.I can't feel the car shift or the rumble strips any longer they need to fix that
@@DOC187able and you answered the shift question 🤭 thanks for sharing man
My Logitech pro wheel vibrating like a crazy. I should hold the wheel with my two hands otherwise it is going crazy. You were very comfortable with the wheel doesn’t seem you have the same issue. Are you using the same settings that you shared? Thanks!
Think it depends on the car in combination with the sensitivity. I drove the DeLorean. Try putting sensitivity on 3 or 4 and perhaps up the dampener a bit
@@SimulatedDrivingResource tgt has a built-in transducer vibrating when clipping the curb or shifting gears ect
Yup I know... but the data used is the same as TrueForce. 😎
My tgt 2 isn't vibrating much either
@@DOC187able that is interesting. I did not even test the TGT2. Did you max out the settings too? 150 strength? Do you still feel the gear shifts?
Nice video I have the t128 and it's not bad for the price
Absolutely not. You have a steering wheel, pedals and active force feedback for a small price. Good package if you're on a budget or just starting out.