I bought the t128 last Black Friday for BRL1000. It was a discount of BRL600 and that's a lot around here. G29/920 costs BRL 1600 ~ 1900... For someone who had made their own steering wheel and pedals, using Arduino, then I think it was a good deal. I am competitive, in due proportion, in online AC/iracing
Your reviews are coming at a really good time for me, gathering info for my first set up. I had considered these, but I'm gonna go for the T300 Rs Gt. I think that'll be more than enough for me, i can't justify paying for DD. Not yet, anyway. I'll see how hard the bug bites 😂 great video, sir!
The T300 is at this moment the most sensible choice for a starting wheel budget/performance wise for console. You made imo the best choice. Thank you for the kind words! 💙
@@SimulatedDrivingResource you're very welcome, videos like this are really helpful for us guys just starting out. I know it's pretty dated now, but seems like a solid starting point. Thanks again man 👍🏻
But even after months of using the t128 I was unable to configure the FFB. Either it becomes very weak and I can't feel much of the car and the track, or it becomes very strong, shaking everything, making a LOT of noise and tiring my hands in some laps.
Thats a bit of an issue when you have a limited force feedback strength and the major reason why people upgrade. While the T128 is very good to get a "taste" of sim-racing for a limited budget, the difference with the more higher end bases is significant due to the differentiation in force feedback.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I will try to jump to moza in about 3 years. I know it won't make me a super pilot but I don't plan on having kids or dating, so for me it's perfect haha
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I talked and did some race tests with an engineer/simulator driver and he said that I'm losing at least 1 second with these t128 pedals
I am currently using a t150 and I want it to be brand new. Is it a t128 or a g29? Both will be geared. I have a hand-made clutch set but the g29 has an original clutch.
The driving sensation of a T128 is better but the g29 feels more "premium" but is also more expensive new. I would personally opt more for a T248 with T3PM pedals if clutch is important but I dont know if this falls in your budget
Im just starting out and recently purchased a T128 should I be worried about the size of the pedals? I have a size 11 US foot and I have a wooding floor so im not sure if the size will matter
Ehm ... worried is a big word. Its a very basic model and it's tailored reasonably small without a lot of mass. It will probably slide a bit on your wooden floor but I would say, try it out first
@@mif4860 I Have The T128 I've Had For 30days Now An Im Using My Old Ferrari Pedals Because The T128 Pedals Are To Small For My Size 13 I Will Be Upgrading To Thrustmaster 3Pedals Setup Soon
Absolutely not. You have a steering wheel, pedals and active force feedback for a small price. Good package if you're on a budget or just starting out.
Thanks a lot, o sold my g29 some years ago after busy times on college and today i saw a great deal on this model. Based on your comparasion i decided to buy it to play assetto competizione and beamng.
Hello, im still wondering if i made good decision, but i bought a new T128 for 125$. Next option for me was buy a used Logitech, usually there was without shifter. Did i make good decision? Also, i want to buy a new pedals (T3PA) and shifter (T8HS) next year for the T128. Sorry for my english btw
Don't second guess your decisions. All wheelbases have their proper characteristics. You, as many people out there that bought it, will have fun with it. I would however place the T3PM above the T3PA if budget allows. Th8s is very nice. I still use that one for my personal use.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Thank you for reply. I dont have the wheel yet (its in delivery,), but i think i will enjoy it. Can i ask, what is difference between T3PA and T3PM?
The T3pa uses potentiometers to read out the values versus hall sensors (magnets) on the t3pm. The latter needs little to no maintenance. But the biggest difference is the feeling of the brake. Much nicer feeling with the T3pm. You can make it a bit harder to push or lighter due to the spring. The pedal faces are also a bit larger (personal preference).
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Sorry for annoying, but im having a problem with the T128. When i turn it, it makes some cracking noise, feels like dry something inside.
Hard choice friend.... the drive of the T128 feels better but the steering wheel and pedals of the g29 feel better. If I would need to choose, g29... I really didnt like the small plastic steering wheel and pedals of the t128. But a pro-tip, look at second hand market. Good bargains to be found there
@@MiguelBarraca I had the same question, and decided to go for T128 as it has a better technology hybrid gear and belt driven whereas the g29 is a gear driven, a little older and noisy technology. The FFB is pretty amazing and the size and material I didn’t honestly have an issue with, the grip was pretty okay and the size it’s comfortable. Price wise you can buy a T128 brand new for a less compared to g29 used. So the best value for me was T128.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Exactly, and your video was one of the resources that helped me. Thank you. I’d have to add one more thing, probably it’s a topic you can make a video about. Actually, lot of newbies to the sim racing are unaware about the fact that despite whatever wheel they buy, tweaking the settings is important for each game. Example, I bought T128 to mainly play Forza Motorsport, the stock settings were very difficult to handle with, had to do some research and find the right settings to match the wheel, it was day and night difference between default settings and adjusted settings.
I had the same question but which one would I pick if I want to feel as immersed as possible. I don’t care about the lap times for each wheel, or the amount of grip on each of the wheels, I just care about trying to make it feel like I am actually driving a car. I do care about the pedals being at least somewhat good and from other reviews I’ve seen, the pedals are supposedly very bad, so that already is a downside for me. I also do though care about the precision of each of the wheels because that will make it feel more immersed, and the final thing I care about is the comfort of the wheels (not the grip because I can wear racing gloves), what I mean by that is, I don’t want a wheel that hurts my wrists after playing around 3 hours a day, everyday, or any degree of discomfort, and I don’t want my wrists to feel locked up (that feeling when u continuously write something on a piece of paper without stopping for a long time and ur hands feel locked up). Considering all of those things, which steering wheel would I buy, the thrustmaster t128 or the Logitech g29?
Hey dude. would you be able to do a video on the Moza R3 situation? It was announced 8 months ago and was supposed to go on sale last year. The release date keeps moving and the official line is Microsoft certification. But no one seems to be willing to actually talk about the situation not least Moza themselves. So many people are sitting waiting for this thing to come out as its a huge upgrade from a logitech g920 or Thrustmaster tmx for Xbox.
Yes. There is the difference in technology. The t80 does not feature force feedback while the t128 does and that makes a world of difference. If there is a bit more budget, I would advise to look at second hand sites, you can get a T248 for around 30-40€ more. The steering wheel feels much better in hand, the ffb is much stronger and the pedals are absolutely 10 times better than t128
Great Review Im Using The T128 I Will Say Swap Those Small Ass Pedals Out For Something Bigger an Better Than Wrap The Wheel An Youll Be Fine Using To T128... Ill Be Upgrading To The T248 Soon......
@@THESHADOW97139 i am sure Will Ford can help out with a comparison. For smaller shrimp like myself, buying that new Fanatec is a bit too expensive atm 😏
Those Thrustmaster pedals are revolting. why did they not just use the standard 2 pedal setup that comes with the t300 / TX? They have been around forever, so surely cannot be expensive to make
Yes, price is a difference as there are many between both. Both are considering starter wheels and are mentioned frequently as "best buy" for people on a budget. I don't really see the issue here.
I had the g29 and it was horrible. It had TOO MUCH power and the center on the wheel was awful, it would just drift left/right and not dead center, too loose.
I bought the t128 last Black Friday for BRL1000. It was a discount of BRL600 and that's a lot around here. G29/920 costs BRL 1600 ~ 1900... For someone who had made their own steering wheel and pedals, using Arduino, then I think it was a good deal. I am competitive, in due proportion, in online AC/iracing
Enjoy the drive friend.💙
Your reviews are coming at a really good time for me, gathering info for my first set up. I had considered these, but I'm gonna go for the T300 Rs Gt. I think that'll be more than enough for me, i can't justify paying for DD. Not yet, anyway. I'll see how hard the bug bites 😂 great video, sir!
The T300 is at this moment the most sensible choice for a starting wheel budget/performance wise for console. You made imo the best choice. Thank you for the kind words! 💙
@@SimulatedDrivingResource you're very welcome, videos like this are really helpful for us guys just starting out. I know it's pretty dated now, but seems like a solid starting point. Thanks again man 👍🏻
But even after months of using the t128 I was unable to configure the FFB. Either it becomes very weak and I can't feel much of the car and the track, or it becomes very strong, shaking everything, making a LOT of noise and tiring my hands in some laps.
Thats a bit of an issue when you have a limited force feedback strength and the major reason why people upgrade. While the T128 is very good to get a "taste" of sim-racing for a limited budget, the difference with the more higher end bases is significant due to the differentiation in force feedback.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I will try to jump to moza in about 3 years. I know it won't make me a super pilot but I don't plan on having kids or dating, so for me it's perfect haha
@@abakt practice makes perfect my friend. But just dont forget to enjoy it too. 💙
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I talked and did some race tests with an engineer/simulator driver and he said that I'm losing at least 1 second with these t128 pedals
I am currently using a t150 and I want it to be brand new. Is it a t128 or a g29? Both will be geared. I have a hand-made clutch set but the g29 has an original clutch.
The driving sensation of a T128 is better but the g29 feels more "premium" but is also more expensive new. I would personally opt more for a T248 with T3PM pedals if clutch is important but I dont know if this falls in your budget
Im just starting out and recently purchased a T128 should I be worried about the size of the pedals? I have a size 11 US foot and I have a wooding floor so im not sure if the size will matter
Ehm ... worried is a big word. Its a very basic model and it's tailored reasonably small without a lot of mass. It will probably slide a bit on your wooden floor but I would say, try it out first
@@mif4860 I Have The T128 I've Had For 30days Now An Im Using My Old Ferrari Pedals Because The T128 Pedals Are To Small For My Size 13 I Will Be Upgrading To Thrustmaster 3Pedals Setup Soon
The T3pm is a good budget choice to add to this setup.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I Was On They Website This Morning Looking For A A HShifter With Clutch Pedals
I could be wrong, but from memory the T128 has between 2 and 2.5 nm 🤔
So almost the same power as the G29
Correct. I thought the G29 had just a bit more but not much.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource
At Logitech, the G29 is the one with the least... 2.1 nm
Nice video I have the t128 and it's not bad for the price
Absolutely not. You have a steering wheel, pedals and active force feedback for a small price. Good package if you're on a budget or just starting out.
Thanks a lot, o sold my g29 some years ago after busy times on college and today i saw a great deal on this model. Based on your comparasion i decided to buy it to play assetto competizione and beamng.
Enjoy the drive friend 💙
Hello, im still wondering if i made good decision, but i bought a new T128 for 125$. Next option for me was buy a used Logitech, usually there was without shifter. Did i make good decision? Also, i want to buy a new pedals (T3PA) and shifter (T8HS) next year for the T128.
Sorry for my english btw
Don't second guess your decisions. All wheelbases have their proper characteristics. You, as many people out there that bought it, will have fun with it. I would however place the T3PM above the T3PA if budget allows. Th8s is very nice. I still use that one for my personal use.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Thank you for reply. I dont have the wheel yet (its in delivery,), but i think i will enjoy it. Can i ask, what is difference between T3PA and T3PM?
The T3pa uses potentiometers to read out the values versus hall sensors (magnets) on the t3pm. The latter needs little to no maintenance. But the biggest difference is the feeling of the brake. Much nicer feeling with the T3pm. You can make it a bit harder to push or lighter due to the spring. The pedal faces are also a bit larger (personal preference).
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Sorry for annoying, but im having a problem with the T128. When i turn it, it makes some cracking noise, feels like dry something inside.
It uses a combination of gears and a belt. Are these not the gears you are hearing?
Hey, I'm a new sim racer and im about ti buy a racing wheel. What wheel would u prefer, The G29 or the T128?
Hard choice friend.... the drive of the T128 feels better but the steering wheel and pedals of the g29 feel better. If I would need to choose, g29... I really didnt like the small plastic steering wheel and pedals of the t128. But a pro-tip, look at second hand market. Good bargains to be found there
@@MiguelBarraca I had the same question, and decided to go for T128 as it has a better technology hybrid gear and belt driven whereas the g29 is a gear driven, a little older and noisy technology. The FFB is pretty amazing and the size and material I didn’t honestly have an issue with, the grip was pretty okay and the size it’s comfortable. Price wise you can buy a T128 brand new for a less compared to g29 used. So the best value for me was T128.
As with many of the versus video's, it is personal choice.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Exactly, and your video was one of the resources that helped me. Thank you.
I’d have to add one more thing, probably it’s a topic you can make a video about. Actually, lot of newbies to the sim racing are unaware about the fact that despite whatever wheel they buy, tweaking the settings is important for each game. Example, I bought T128 to mainly play Forza Motorsport, the stock settings were very difficult to handle with, had to do some research and find the right settings to match the wheel, it was day and night difference between default settings and adjusted settings.
I had the same question but which one would I pick if I want to feel as immersed as possible. I don’t care about the lap times for each wheel, or the amount of grip on each of the wheels, I just care about trying to make it feel like I am actually driving a car. I do care about the pedals being at least somewhat good and from other reviews I’ve seen, the pedals are supposedly very bad, so that already is a downside for me. I also do though care about the precision of each of the wheels because that will make it feel more immersed, and the final thing I care about is the comfort of the wheels (not the grip because I can wear racing gloves), what I mean by that is, I don’t want a wheel that hurts my wrists after playing around 3 hours a day, everyday, or any degree of discomfort, and I don’t want my wrists to feel locked up (that feeling when u continuously write something on a piece of paper without stopping for a long time and ur hands feel locked up). Considering all of those things, which steering wheel would I buy, the thrustmaster t128 or the Logitech g29?
Quality video, very informative. Thank you
The difference in price is double in some countries.
Absolutely. Prices vary strongly
Hey dude. would you be able to do a video on the Moza R3 situation? It was announced 8 months ago and was supposed to go on sale last year. The release date keeps moving and the official line is Microsoft certification. But no one seems to be willing to actually talk about the situation not least Moza themselves. So many people are sitting waiting for this thing to come out as its a huge upgrade from a logitech g920 or Thrustmaster tmx for Xbox.
Not sure what I can add to that info. I found MOZA are not the most open in communication. 🙄
@SimulatedDrivingResource just to make more people aware of the situation. And to put pressure on ms and moza to actually release the thing
I will see if I can think of some sort of short to emphasize the issue.
You asked sir? ;) ruclips.net/video/m2TpW7jutgE/видео.html
@SimulatedDrivingResource haha perfect vid!!!
Will the t128 be a big (or at least decently noticeable) upgrade from t80?
Yes. There is the difference in technology. The t80 does not feature force feedback while the t128 does and that makes a world of difference. If there is a bit more budget, I would advise to look at second hand sites, you can get a T248 for around 30-40€ more. The steering wheel feels much better in hand, the ffb is much stronger and the pedals are absolutely 10 times better than t128
Massive
Great Review Im Using The T128 I Will Say Swap Those Small Ass Pedals Out For Something Bigger an Better Than Wrap The Wheel An Youll Be Fine Using To T128... Ill Be Upgrading To The T248 Soon......
Absolutely. When you replace the pedals it is already a big step up.
@SimulatedDrivingResource Absolutely T128 Is A Solid Wheel For What It Is.....
I can't wait to see you test the camus c12 😃
I cant yet publish anything about it but i am seriously impressed so far
@@SimulatedDrivingResourceI suspect it and I can't wait to see a comparison with the new 15 nm fanatec dd+....but I really can't wait!!!😁😁
@@THESHADOW97139 i am sure Will Ford can help out with a comparison. For smaller shrimp like myself, buying that new Fanatec is a bit too expensive atm 😏
Those Thrustmaster pedals are revolting. why did they not just use the standard 2 pedal setup that comes with the t300 / TX? They have been around forever, so surely cannot be expensive to make
They needed an overhaul anyways to add the hall sensors but indeed. The design of the old T2pa just with hall sensors would have been better.
@@robertcarr4172 even the pedals for the $100 thrustmaster t18 wheel are better!
Two different price points here. Comparing apples to oranges
Yes, price is a difference as there are many between both. Both are considering starter wheels and are mentioned frequently as "best buy" for people on a budget. I don't really see the issue here.
I had the g29 and it was horrible. It had TOO MUCH power and the center on the wheel was awful, it would just drift left/right and not dead center, too loose.
If you think the g29 has too much power then all I can say is wow. Never get a direct drive wheel.