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Hammer Armament is a Wyoming based Kydex holster and accessories company. Covert, competition and tactical holsters, magazine carriers and more available at www.hammerarmament.com
This Channel is dedicated to creating informative and fun videos for and about the firearms community.
This Channel is dedicated to creating informative and fun videos for and about the firearms community.
C IS FOR COMPROMISE? 2024 STACCATO C REVIEW
CHAPTERS:
00:00 SETUP...
02:06 PUNCHLINE
03:15 PREAMBLE/REVIEW OUTLINE
04:08 FEATURES
07:05 WEIGHT
07:28 FORMING AN OPINION DIDN'T GO SO SMOOTH
08:09 PROBLEM 1: TRIGGER ISSUES
10:20 SOLVING THE TRIGGER ISSUES
11:16 PROBLEM 2: RELIABILITY
12:10 TRIJICON SRO RELATED ISSUES
13:17 SOLVING RELIABILITY ISSUES: CLEAN IT!
13:51 TLDR SHOOTING EXPERIENCES WITH THE STACCATO C
14:08 THE SMALLER GRIPS AREN'T FOR EVERYONE
14:37 THE RIGHT SIZE FOR EDC?
15:45 WHAT ROLE DOES IT FILL? CS COMPARISON
17:09 THE MAIN GOAL OF OUR REVIEWS
17:54 THE CAUTIONARY TALE...(CLEAN YOUR DANG GUN)
18:59 ALTERNATE ENDING/CLOSING JOKE
The 2024 Staccato C is the newest model from Staccato and is advertised as their "Do-All" gun. But does...
00:00 SETUP...
02:06 PUNCHLINE
03:15 PREAMBLE/REVIEW OUTLINE
04:08 FEATURES
07:05 WEIGHT
07:28 FORMING AN OPINION DIDN'T GO SO SMOOTH
08:09 PROBLEM 1: TRIGGER ISSUES
10:20 SOLVING THE TRIGGER ISSUES
11:16 PROBLEM 2: RELIABILITY
12:10 TRIJICON SRO RELATED ISSUES
13:17 SOLVING RELIABILITY ISSUES: CLEAN IT!
13:51 TLDR SHOOTING EXPERIENCES WITH THE STACCATO C
14:08 THE SMALLER GRIPS AREN'T FOR EVERYONE
14:37 THE RIGHT SIZE FOR EDC?
15:45 WHAT ROLE DOES IT FILL? CS COMPARISON
17:09 THE MAIN GOAL OF OUR REVIEWS
17:54 THE CAUTIONARY TALE...(CLEAN YOUR DANG GUN)
18:59 ALTERNATE ENDING/CLOSING JOKE
The 2024 Staccato C is the newest model from Staccato and is advertised as their "Do-All" gun. But does...
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I also have large hands… So get the P then.
@@brisketbaron I would suggest that. Or the C2, which will be the same length as the C but has the normal sized 2011 grip.
16000 rounds says it’s worth it.
And here I thought it was witchcraft
@@cesarmelendez31306 this is an old video. We exclusively use witchcraft now.
Absolutely love my CS. Get a antimatter wing a d it's a cheat code
@@OldmanSnake ruclips.net/video/0EbeevzTnco/видео.htmlsi=4wL9-DxZT3RqgKOl
old toothbrushes clean the grips without taking any material off or wearing it
clean the grip with an old dampened toothbrush
Which TLR 7 HL-X key are you using/what is your Loki Holster made for? Just ordered one for my C. Thanks!
@@uziel317 1913-2 is the correct key for that.
@@hammerarmament Awesome, that's the one I have it on. Thanks, looking forward to the Loki!
You talk about problems you had then 10 minutes into the video say you didn’t clean the gun before starting. Every gun owners manual I’ve ever read says to clean the gun first. Hmm
@@bartrobinson6977 yeah man, don’t be like me. Clean it thoroughly first. A quick wipe down and lube up isn’t good enough. I knew better but was hasty. Hopefully this reinforces the importance of this for others.
Everything after 10:53 had me on the edge of my seat. What a showdown. I still had doubts after the first 10 minutes and 50 seconds of the video, but the evidence following that was undeniable. I used Tek Lok for my knives. Its rock solid for scout carrying. I just now learned about the Tek Lok mini and came here to learn more. I'll be using the mini on my competition belt for magazines.
@@thewowzach32 🤣🤣🤣I’m glad you enjoyed it and I hope it helped!
I love my P. It’s my carry. Just wear baggy shirts.
As of this post, I'm at 780 rounds and counting on my '24 C. No issues to report.
I also tried the SRO on my new C model with compact grip. I fired 100 rds with iron's no issue. Added the SRO when my plate arrived and had 2 hang ups in next 150rds Traded out the SRO for a RMR adjustable type 2 and not a single issue again 200-300rds later. I'm sure the SRO was giving me issues mine hung over the port. It's a shame I love the SRO's wider FOV.
@@steel1911 like I mentioned in the video, I don’t think the SRO is the root cause. After the initial 500 rounds or so it didn’t happen again, and hasn’t ever happened on our Staccato CS, P, XC or Atlas Athena. Maybe it’s the extractor, maybe it’s the ammo. I don’t know. It’s an odd issue.
Yeh, you never know the issues for sure sometimes. personally if it happened to me, I would send it back to be checked. Anything man made can have issues. Even higher end stuff its just luck of the draw sometimes.
Love these videos!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 very entertaining and informative!!!!
What holster do you guys use for the 2024 CS (with or without light)
@@fearnonebutone4977 it depends on what your intended purpose is. All of our holster models have the CS as an option. Our Loki holster is for concealment (iwb) Thunder classic is a good range use/competition/all around holster. Lightning is the same as the Thunder classic but for light bearing versions. Baldur is best for pistol competition. Thunder HD is a heavy duty level 2 retention holster best for tactical or 3 gun competition use.
@@hammerarmamentawesome! Thank you. I kept seeing other makers making CS IWB holsters for the 2023 Cs, then they would note that the 2024 won’t work. Annoying. I’ll check the Loki out. Thank you!
Just watched this. You're epic! Probably the best (informative, amusing, and genuine) pistol review I've seen. Keep up the amazing work.
@@user-is8tb7yg3c thanks for the kind words! We appreciate it!
16,000 rounds? Thats over $4,500… There’s $10k in yer shooting hobby… dig it.
@@tobberfutooagain2628 whoa buddy, no need to add this up. My wife might read this comment.
Your intro. You lost me from the start of the video looking like tactical bob. Then you lost me more with the trigger. That gun has a 4lbs trigger all day. I think the frustration is your shooting. That gun is so easy and smooth to shoot.
@@tommyg4279 thanks for the feedback. Criticizing my shooting skill is fair. However this gun wasn’t 4 pounds all day, which was the biggest issue. It was around 4 pounds most of the time but sometimes way heavier. My staccato p has a slightly heavier trigger but it’s smoother and more consistent, and therefore easier and more enjoyable to shoot. I’m not saying all Staccato C’s are bad. Just this sample had issues. We have several staccatos in the shop and have shot 10’s of thousands of rounds through them the past few years. This particular gun was the least enjoyable and had an obviously different feel than our others. If you like yours, that’s great man! I don’t think it’s a bad gun. I just had bad luck with this one but it does seem to have smoothed out now.
I hope it’s pop rocks or fireworks. Edit: intro was still funny though
I just bought the atlas Erebus but sfter $7500 i dont want to put wear and tear on a fun this expensive. I ordered a stealth arms platypus to use as a beater gun
@@jackomalley3687 the Erebus was built to be ran my brother. This is the equivalent of having a super model for a wife but picking up truck stop prostitutes.
@hammerarmament 😂 lol
I wish there was a pocket carry grip. But this is just a downside of 2011s. Having a separate grip means they're always going to be wider/bigger than they could be
@@cl3826 whether that is a downside or not is going to depend on your hand size. For me personally, most full size polymer guns have grips that are too small already. The CS is the absolute smallest that I’d be willing to carry.
Sorry but the atlas isn’t worth double what a staccato is. Shot both and couldn’t tell the difference as far as shoot ability. And accuracy is the same. Not worth twice the amount
@@michaelcarbis2286 I think it really depends on what you use it for. The average range-goer that just shoots for fun occasionally would likely share your opinion. Serious competitors likely would not.
Intro song to this video....is it just a personal intro song or is there actually a song for this? It rocks and had me sub to the channel just for that reason. Watched the whole video and gave it a thumbs up as well as Im going to go to my other log ins and sub with those as well. Nice video!
@@andystarcher1918 the song is : “All them days “ by splasher! . We found it on epidemic sound which is where we get all of our copyright free music for RUclips. We try to find something new for each video intro.
Thanks for that grip measurement- I wanted a comparison to a standard 1991 (13.5 cm for my Springfield TRP CC), and you provided that.
I have the 2024 CS and added an antimatter wing to my TLR Sub 7. Now my CS won’t fit into my Tenicor holster. Do you have a holster that would work for me? I like the idea of maybe getting one of your C (new C) holsters and trying that. 👊🏼 I am a human that shoots guns.
@@triggersandtech we do not have anything for that. If you really like that wing, definitely don’t watch our video on thumbrests where I refer to them as “pussy pedals” and “training wheels for guns”. My honest advice is spending time doing the Doubles drill. You can make huge improvements in a relatively short amount of time in terms of recoil management with that drill.
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My new favorite channel 😂 Just got my CS back from Staccato. Did the grip swap to the full size grip and I’m loving it.
you guys put Rambo to shame lol!!!!!
Juuust under 2,5 lbs…..🙂 hahahahahah😂😂😂
Thanks, big guy -- great video! My buddy bought one of these and we took it to the range and compared it with my P, that I use in USPSA. I'm 5'9 on a good day and he's shorter. We both thought the C fit our hands much more comfortably than the P. Honestly, if I could put that full-size but narrower grip on my P I would have the perfect gun for me. That said, I shot both very well. I did not find the C recoil to be bad at all. Definitely beats a striker fired gun any day of the week. I also preferred the flat trigger and reach more than the P's curve, which has more play. It's light, compact, easy to conceal and will be a do-it-all gun for him. I'd kind of like to try it at USPSA, but it only came with 2 mags and they're sold out of extras! Jeesh. Anyway, keep up the great reviews and videos!
Nice review. I have been happy with mine but I haven’t shot it near as much as you did. I went with the RMR HD. I will check out your holsters
Great intro. A bit of a slow burn, but worth it. As for the review, I'll say that your experience has been different from mine... but I only have about 500 rounds through my Staccato C. That said, I haven't had a single failure of any sort (all 115 gr ball). The only thing I've noticed with it is that it feels like it stutters on the disconnector (only noticeable when manually racking the slide). I also have a '23 Staccato CS that is buttery smooth, so I have something to compare it to. But even so, not a single failure (yet).
That's awesome. I'm glad its working out for you. I'm sure most of them wont have the issues we experienced. Our other staccatos have been great and I loved the CS a lot more than I expected to.
Why did dude run 🏃♀️ into the target 😅
@@hustleruss we may never know…
Amazing intro, good review. Keep it coming.
I have the 2024 staccato c full size and haven’t had a single issue with it at all. Might need to have your gun looked at or maybe it’s the user. Hands down love it and would get another one
I haven't watched the entire video but: at 7:36 that SRO isn't going to help reliability at all when it gets in the way of ejection like that.
12:22 yeah ok. Im just here adding to engagement now.
@@johnnixon2504good man! I appreciate it.
I have 2 staccatos with the newer grips (P and XC) I clean the grips with Hoppe's HBC6 and a clean nylon brush, grips looks brand new.
@@kylehill4437 thanks!
New grip on the XC? You mean the grip texture; or did they change the whole frame?
I love how candid you are, the good, the bad, the ugly. If it quacks like a duck, you say so. Keep em coming! The content you provide is extremely valuable. And yes , I need a 2011 holster but not for a “C.”
Best Holsters on the market! Thanks for another great review!
Thanks man!
I have this same gun with the x series and the flat trigger. 1200 rounds down and not a single malfunction. Sounds like a lemon.
@@BrothaGoodReps I don’t know if lemon is the right word. I think it just had a step missing in the build process maybe ( cleaning the grip before final assembly, possibly). It does seem to be running well now.
@@hammerarmamentI have 2 C's...curved and flat trigger...No problems so far. Only around 500 to 600 through each...
@ out of curiosity, how many range trips did it take you to get to that round count?
The 2024 C will fit in the same Safariland duty holsters as all the others if you are rockin X300
Gotta love honest reviews. Few and far between. Ty.
I carry the 2024 CS. Tenicor IWB.. tlr1 HL-X.. SRO.. tactical development magwell made up for the shorter grip. Flat trigger and DLC barrel. I am rather fond of my CS and shoot it a lot. Tactical development magwell fits the C. Mag springs in the CS/C mags are trash
I did swap my sear spring for a Colt and re tuned the trigger with less takeup. I’m at roughly 2.5lbs. No over travel set screw on the flat trigger.
That range looks familiar, GGC? I'm a member. Just subscribed
@@Prairie_homestead correct!
After watching your Athena review, I got a "blemished" Ares 4.25 as well as the Athena I ordered. Thanks. I also have orders in for holsters from you for those guns. You all are my new expensive friends that cost me more money. But, it's f*ggin' worth it!
Your beard motivates me.
most of the FTE is due to the SRO hanging over the ejection port
@@jbcustom3745 I addressed this in the video but I don’t think this is the main issue just based on the high volume of rounds (around 40,000) I’ve shot with SRO’s before I had this issue. It might be a compounding factor but not the root cause.
There coming out with to many expensive models i think that with 2011s your paying a lot for hype and i dont think they are worth it with all the companies coming out with versions of 2011 . Cant wait till they drop the price and inflation comes down .
@@charles17508 to be fair, all of our other 2011’s have been great. Just this particular one had some issues. Which once they were sorted out, it ran great.
Glad im sticking with my C2 and P for now
Nice good info
Good job homies!!!!! Live the intro I got it right away lol no more trex videos before bed
This must be a Prodigy masquerading as a Staccato, 😂, Staccatos would NEVER be unreliable- according to the internet nerds.