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Justin and Tiffany
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Welcome! Join us as we share our life journey. Currently sharing our story out of a hyper-charismatic Pentecostal church that we spent more than 30 years in. But thank God we found grace!
🆕 Empty Promises: Is Pentecostalism Authentic Or Just Hype? - EP71
When Pentecostal churches and sermons look like one big promotional advertisement, how can believers trust they contain any true authenticity? Much less, a grounding based in Scripture. It’s simple, they can’t. This is why itching ears must turn into listening ears. Christian preaching should rely on the plain truth of God’s Word, not on manipulative tactics or HYPE to draw a crowd. This episode calls out the many ways in which charismatic churches are selling today’s believer a bill of goods, rather than offering the true simplicity of Scripture.
So that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in...
So that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in...
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Slavery of the Faithful: When Church Ministry Becomes a Task Master - EP70
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Why would you be involved in one church ministry, when you could be involved in THREE?! This is the echo chamber of many Pentecostal pastors, making a call to their congregants to serve in the kingdom of God. Except the service is to their modern church building and church services, rather than to the actual commission given to believers. Today’s episode is a reminder that a Christian’s service...
The Untouchable Pastor Myth: A Breakdown of ‘Touch Not Mine Anointed’ - EP69
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In today’s episode, Justin and Tiffany address the false teaching of the “untouchable” pastor, based on the phrase, “touch not mine anointed” from 1 Chronicles 16:22. This scripture cannot be properly quoted to shield church leaders from examination or criticism. But church congregants are overtaken by this fear tactic, and unfortunately allow themselves to be silenced by men who only use this ...
Pastor Worship Exposed: Idols in the Pentecostal Pulpit - EP68
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High-control Pentecostal churches set men up on pedestals by default. These men are called pastors, and most of them prefer to be known as the mouthpiece of God to their followers. Sadly, some Christians lose their way, and begin to worship these men as their spiritual authority and coverings, entirely neglecting the only one who deserves all worship. And He has no rival. Today’s episode lays o...
Do You Need “The Pastor” to Get to Heaven? - EP67
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Do You Need “The Pastor” to Get to Heaven? - EP67
Give to Get? The Hidden Prosperity Gospel in Pentecostalism - EP66
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Give to Get? The Hidden Prosperity Gospel in Pentecostalism - EP66
Shepherds or Bullies? Confronting Abuse in Pentecostal Leadership - EP65
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Shepherds or Bullies? Confronting Abuse in Pentecostal Leadership - EP65
Dread Over Hope: Using the End Time to Instill Fear - EP64
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Dread Over Hope: Using the End Time to Instill Fear - EP64
Decreeing & Declaring Or Speaking In Tongues Is Not Prayer - EP63
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Decreeing & Declaring Or Speaking In Tongues Is Not Prayer - EP63
Does The Bible Forbid Speaking In Tongues Together?: A Rebuttal To The UPCI w/ Steve Forkin - EP62
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Does The Bible Forbid Speaking In Tongues Together?: A Rebuttal To The UPCI w/ Steve Forkin - EP62
UPC Preacher Admits They Use “Go-To” Scriptures To Get A Response - EP61
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UPC Preacher Admits They Use “Go-To” Scriptures To Get A Response - EP61
UPCI General Conference 2024: Claims of Signs and Wonders! - EP60
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UPCI General Conference 2024: Claims of Signs and Wonders! - EP60
Being Demoralized By A Pentecostal Church - EP59
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Being Demoralized By A Pentecostal Church - EP59
Are Christians Promised Victory In All Of Life's Circumstances? - S02E58
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Are Christians Promised Victory In All Of Life's Circumstances? - S02E58
We Left The UPC, And Started A Podcast! - Season 1 Finale
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We Left The UPC, And Started A Podcast! - Season 1 Finale
Recognizing Nepotism’s Negative Effect In Churches - S01E56
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Recognizing Nepotism’s Negative Effect In Churches - S01E56
Revealing Narcissism In The Pentecostal Pulpit - S01E55
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Revealing Narcissism In The Pentecostal Pulpit - S01E55
The Damage and Dangers of Mysticism in the UPC - S01E54
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The Damage and Dangers of Mysticism in the UPC - S01E54
Crazy Things Pentecostal Preachers Say…And Do! - S01E53
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Crazy Things Pentecostal Preachers Say…And Do! - S01E53
Holy Standards: Is TV, Sports, or Alcohol a Sin? - S01E52
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Holy Standards: Is TV, Sports, or Alcohol a Sin? - S01E52
Holy Standards: The UPC’s Misconception About Modesty - S0151
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Holy Standards: The UPC’s Misconception About Modesty - S0151
Holy Standards: Uncut Hair, Head Coverings, and Beards - S0150
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Holy Standards: Uncut Hair, Head Coverings, and Beards - S0150
Holy Standards: Jewelry and Makeup…and Tattoos! - S01E49
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Holy Standards: Jewelry and Makeup…and Tattoos! - S01E49
Holy Standards: Pants For Men, Dresses For Ladies - S01E48
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Holy Standards: Pants For Men, Dresses For Ladies - S01E48
Sunday Costumes? All Dressed Up For Jesus - S01E47
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Sunday Costumes? All Dressed Up For Jesus - S01E47
People or Place: The Purposes of the Church Gathering - S01E46
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People or Place: The Purposes of the Church Gathering - S01E46
Exposing The Ritualistic Worship Service - S01E45
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Exposing The Ritualistic Worship Service - S01E45
Does the Bible Mandate Weekly Church Attendance? - S01E44
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Does the Bible Mandate Weekly Church Attendance? - S01E44
A Magical Place: Is The Church House Actually God’s House?- S01E43
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A Magical Place: Is The Church House Actually God’s House?- S01E43
Prophecy and The Seriousness Of Speaking On God’s Behalf - S01E42
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Prophecy and The Seriousness Of Speaking On God’s Behalf - S01E42
Hey Justin and Tiffany, I hope y’all’s year has had a great start to it. Y’all have helped me so much over the past couple weeks. I would love to see you guys respond to David K Bernard’s podcast and RUclips shorts… I’ve left UPCI and so I’ve come to understand that sometimes on his podcasts they are so calm and collected but church services and realities to what he claims can be so radically different and I think it’d be helpful to do some exposure work with that as well as general debunking. Y’all may have already done this before on an episode and I haven’t reached it yet though, but even a whole episode on his content would be great cause he releases so much and is so highly regarded!
Do you have an episode(s) about church attendance, and “not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together”?
Yes, we have a series on “The Church Building” here: ruclips.net/p/PL1aRj7l1t4f-xWOOZI8ygTa2bjHotSzfh This includes - Does the Bible Mandate Weekly Church Attendance? - S01E44 ruclips.net/video/V1_1M3yP51Q/видео.html We talk about that scripture in this episode.
Thank you so much!
Hey guys. Quick question. What software are you using for the footage around 13:00 minutes?
this is cotton candy, this is the cool whip on a lemon meringue pie, a tickling of the ears.
THE LAW “Oh, how I love your law! I meditate on it all day long.” Psalms 119:97 NIV Vs. “For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”” Galatians 3:10 NIV “I hate double-minded people, but I love your law.” Psalms 119:113 NIV Vs. “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.” Romans 10:4 NKJV “Salvation is far from the wicked, for they do not seek out your decrees.” Psalms 119:155 NIV
48:59 wow! My wife and I are exactly in the same situation! We are both in the music department. She sings and I play bass. She is over the media account and we both were at one point Bible quizzing coaches. As we have started seeing the red flags in the upc and in this church we have wanted to step down but we were told when you step down from things you leave it backslide so we don’t want you to step down. And now this past Sunday we were just notified in a meeting that happened that if you have bad attendance and are missing music practices (that are now every Thursday ) you will get points like at a job. You can miss any services Sunday or Wednesdays or the music practices on Thursday or you receive a point and after a few points you get talked to by the pastor. Like I said in my other comment in this video. We want to leave the UPC so bad but it’s so hard to make the first step to actually do it! Prayers appreciated
38:08 it’s so hard I’m 5th generation UPC and my wife is 2nd or 3rd. My mom and sisters have left the upc but my wifes family has not and it’s so hard because we know it will be super messy if we leave our current upc church. For the past 6 years we’ve been wanting to leave upc. We left one upc church and moved to a new upc church(same state just a few hours away) and we are still dealing with the upc issues. It’s so hard to break away from something that has been indoctrinated into you for 20+ years.
I wanted to go to Bible college for music reasons as well and I was told by my former pastor there that “why would you want to go there? I can teach you anything they can” and he also said he would pray about it “for me” and let me know what God speaks to him and of course it was a no
Good Afternoon, Is emphasizing to have an encounter with God every service a bad thing? If the focus of any church worship service is any thing other than to encounter God, then logically what are they doing... Why would repentance not be done in any other way than with tears or emotions? Psalms 51:17 says, "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise." or 2 Corinthians 7:10 (NIV) "Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death." The Psalmist says.. "I am worn out from my groaning. All night long I flood my bed with weeping and drench my couch with tears." Other references that mention tears, groaning, or dramatic displays of repentance... Psalms 6:6, Jeremiah 31:9, Luke 7:38, Hebrew 5:7. Repentance is very emotional according to the word of God. What is unbiblical about going to the streets and preaching the word of God, Luke 14:23 (KJV) "And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled." or Matthew 10:27 (NIV) "What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs." Laying hands isn't something that fringe groups should be doing or those that want to be seen as demonstrative. The doctrine of laying hands is literally given by Jesus Christ in the Great Commission to the Apostles in Mark 16. To criticize someone's repentance, attempt at sharing the gospel outside of the building or the practice of the commands of our Lord and Savior, is a major red flag. The only parallel I find in this is when Judas labeled Marys worship too radical, or when the multitude told blind bartimeus to be silent. Maybe they thought he was doing too much, maybe it was a dramatic expression of faith... this is a Straw Man Fallacy... Whatever your beliefs are on doctrine, I point this out to you because I want to show you how much damage you to the Word of God by trying convey your point. It is obvious that you all have been hurt and for whatever it is worth I am sorry, but don't allow your hurt to damage the word. Praying for your hearts & minds ,
Do you say anything to the people who are doing damage to God's people by having attitudes that cause people to be hurt?
Have yall heard if “the handmaiden” on @escaping350utopia RUclips channel??? Bizarre
Satan has you in deep delusion. I feel sorry for you. Jesus please help these people see truth.
We cannot even imagine how wonderful heaven will be... be encouraged fellow believers !! We enjoy the blessing of Gods creation so much here on earth, oh how exciting it is to know that His Kingdom will be that much better. Shake off the shackles of fear from hell, His blood is much more powerful than we could ever know!
Its also sad because sometimes these preachers really think that they are fulfilling this role that they represent...and if they truly hold all of the UPCI doctrines to be true that they are doing it the right way... and the young men who genuinely want to please God start to admire these "pastors" or "evangelists" and then have this ongoing echo chamber of what "truth" and "being anointed" and "on fire for God" is supposed to look like.... sadly that's when the UPCI tradition quickly becomes elevated above the simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ along with loving your neighbor as yourself... it can be a sense of pride and that's no bueno... thanks for posting guysss
And when you are apart of UPCI and go to church services as often as they have them, the authority of "the pastor" is emphasized so much. Its emphasized in preaching by the pastor himself, its emphasized by a guest speaker who is a traveling evangelist or even regular members who want to become preachers are expected to give special honor to the pastor at the beginning of their message... its even emphasized in music rehearsals, event planning, and when making personal life decisions (college, jobs, marriage, dating, ministry) where the pastor should have the ultimate call to make sure you "stay in Gods order of authority". Thanks for using so many specific videos and examples Justin and Tiff because this happens so much and people tend to not realize how dangerous this can be.
While some people like to be preached at like this @JLC87420, it is wrong to say that people "need" to pray with people who are praying in the alter. Prayer shouldn't be a burden that is forced onto people. Praying with people should be something that the spirit leads someone to do in a biblical approach, and if someone is not lead to go pray with everyone else in a church service, it can be abusive to condemn them as if it is their responsibility to "stir up the spirit", we should have faith that the Holy Spirit is capable enough to minister to a believer praying alone in the alter... and its like, if someone feels so fired up that people aren't praying with other people, then they should go ask (and its important to ask) to pray with them, people and pastors should be careful not to blame and condemn everybody else for not meeting your standards or expectations...
Hey Justin and Tiffany, I know this is an old video but I recently started watching yalls channel after leaving the UPCI at 21 years old literally this past December with my husband...as someone who always loved to play and sing growing up and still enjoying gospel music, the points in this episode were convicting and incredibly helpful. I will be taking these points to help me discern where emotions and feelings invoked by music can be unedifying, unbiblical, and manipulative in my life. I know yalls episodes are mostly dialogue, but it would be awesome if y'all shared yalls musical passion to sing/write songs (whether focused on christ or general songs) and share them via RUclips or other platforms. God bless and be encouraged, I think the consistency you guys have with releasing content on these subjects, specifically about the UPCI are gonna reach more and more people.
Love your channel and time you give to reveal the upci
What church do you guys attend? Do they have anything for the youth?
What does "Shando" mean. So many of the UPCI preachers and teachers that I have heard speaking in tongues use the same words. Can they chastise or condescend to people without using the term "honey"?. I spent 36 years in the UPCI hearing the same messages.
It’s probably a different form of “sitonmyhonda” or “tiemytie”
Thank you for exposing these things. I didn't know if it was just me or if other people believed that Jesus 2nd coming should be one of hope and not fear. I'm glad I'm not alone. I am working to still love and forgive those who chose to deliver fear to children (myself includer) instead of hope and grace. It is a journey.
Anytime God's doctrine is replaced with man made doctrine we become Pharisees. Let the Holy Spirit guide every word that it brings you back to Jesus so that we don't make the same mistake.
I was a Charismatic for 25 years. Sounds crazy, especially when one considers they never demonstrate what they believe. Can anyone show me one youtube video of an actual healing?
What changed? It took you 30 years to realize that the UPCI (actually your own limited UPC experience) wasn't your cup of tea? And now you're this dedicated to slandering before the whole world? Hmmm...
How can you slander if you’ve actually experienced it? I know this couple very well, she been in 4 different UPC churches!!!
The Bible is full of "experiences" by people, not sure if you read it but it's really good.
when that one minister said the first thing women do when they leave the church is cut their hair and wear pants. I wonder if he knows just how many of the women in the UPC do that now they just do it under cover.😂😂😂
But....is it gonna happen?
Having lived in Little Rock for several years I know Holmes’ church has a huge amount of business owners. I’m sure that’s why Cody Marks started saying that. 😂
Kathryn Krick also counts down to three when she "cast demons out" 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Learned behaviour.
I’d like to contact y’all through email but I can’t find out how?
These preachers are examples of people heaping false teachers upon them to tickle their ears. There's no gospel here. That's all the majority of UPCI churches do anymore - tickle ears and entertain.
GOD bless you guys!!! THANK YOU so much for breaking it down for the ones who really needed to SEE it MORE clear, at a slower pace!!! YOU are definitely doing this for the GLORY of GOD and a favor to those who are WILLING to LISTEN and then make a PERSONAL judgment/decision for their own life! You are a BLESSING, I can assure you... I ADORE your consistent and candid style of delivering your message and YOUR CONVERSATION although passionate, is rational and RELEVANT... especially with a BIBLICALLY CENTERED perspective! BLESSINGS to you my friends.. and precious brothers in the LORD!! ....
Good afternoon! From Michigan, I was in the UPCI services for about ten years. A girl witnessed to me back in 2006 when we were roommates in a home for young adults in crisis. Said I was baptized incorrectly. lol I had never heard of Apostolics before nor dancing in the ilses and other tongues. They had me so scared to cut my hair. A pastor said God told him he won't give me my sight yet because he knows I'll go off and do my own thing, away from the church. I'm blind. Such an emphasis' on my sight being given to me, people would lay hands on my eyes without even asking me first. Now that I hear your clips years later, I notice how loud those crazy preachers are. I don't miss any of that stuff. Thanks for your content. I know it helps many people.
I'm sorry that you are blind. I'm also sick of Word of Faith doctrine. It's a lie simply because they remove Jesus by saying 'if you have faith you will be healed'.
These PARROTS that you are presenting, are so DISGUSTING from a spiritual perspective!.... So sad.... I cannot imagine what they behave like with their family and wives... Such spiritual wimps inside and out!...
Thank you kindly for your research! It take me back to Y2K and the lock-in your activities we had. Everyone thought we would be raptured when the clock struck midnight. Emotional chaos 😢
I was in a midnight Y2K prayer meeting too, but we brought potluck foods…just in case.lol
oh my goodness, I feel the anxiety
All those speakers in the UPCI whether male or female are addicted to dope. That is dopamine. Dopamine is released when they scream and become intense. And those listening are either condemned and left feeling fearful or they get on the dopamine train with the screamer and leave with a feeling of euphoria. If the mood in the room drops due to fear, then usually the screamer will pick up on it and start saying that God just spoke to them and start whispering sweet nothings to the crowd to seduce so they can leave with euphoria. I experienced that many times when I attended. It's pathetic and I pray people will recognize this and stop attending.
Love you guys.Thank you for exposing the truth about these false preachers, Me and my family have come out of the upci about a month ago.
Praising God to see this. Definitely will be lifting you up in prayer as it will be a big transition.
We can out a few years ago after studying the Bible for myself. ❤
The scripture does say everyone born of the Spirit that the Spirit will manifest with a sound ' to speak or give a utterance . John 3
The vast majority of what you hear in these churches is not genuine tongues
Language of angels. LOL ruclips.net/user/shortseFsZf8JyxLM?si=uWGq9fTft6fazCSK
If they can keep you coming to their alter it secures their assets
Guys this episode. Just excellent, thank you for all the work you do ❤
Expand the business so they have better and more assets.
Exactly. $$$$$
AMEN
I left the Pentecostals and Pauline Christianity 45 years ago. Hallelu-YAH!
God does not live in time; He lives in eternity, so the New Year is not significant to the Him. Jesus doesn't wait for the ball to drop in Times Square and Sinatra to sing New York, New York and then He fulfills prophecy and answers prayers. Every year it is said that this is the year of prophetic fulfillment, or the open door, or the answered prayer. Evil men waxing worse deceiving and being deceived. Good job guys. Happy New year!
Excellent point! He operates outside our idea of time. He also operates outside of our reasoning and intellect. I wish these people would realize that they don't really know God at all and just let people seek Him for themselves. The Bible says that we need to work out our own salvation, but these types of organizations have already "worked out" our salvation for us. What's the point in seeking God? Just follow whatever the pastor says and your fine...🙄
@@viperolf Agree. We are blessed to understand this and follow Jesus through His Word and by His Holy Spirit.🙂
You say scam . I feel the forefathers like parham was cons. Scam artist using a revelation to build colleges
True statement!
Really when I used to go to these type of services I would leave so drained
Me too!!
Oh my gosh! Me too! So exhausted! I see with new eyes now, thank you Jesus!
When I used to be apart of this organization getting up to go to work on Monday was brutal! I started taking Mondays off just to recover from all these ups and downs the emotional roller coaster we were on! This religion is like being on a NEVER ENDING hamster wheel!!
This can go on for hours! Literally! As a child even, we had a man that always sat on the platform who would start talking in tongues and would not stop for hours. He would go on till the wee hours and leaving -even on school nights or with young children- was very frowned upon!
This is their veiw of unity and walking in the Spirit.. If you do not agree you are a bad boy
They say every year that something is gonna happen. I use to think it was anointing but now I feel its pride.
This is right on , great work putting this together. I feel bad by the ones hypnotized by this
Funny how many clips with the word “hype”. Goes to show how many times they try to clarify it isn’t hype. The counting to three is so ridiculous. It’s done so much.