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My name is Nate Bagley. I started Growth Marriage because I see too many people stuck in "Roommate Syndrome."
When you fall in love and commit to spend your life with someone, the expectation is that - for the most part - you'll be treated with kindness and respect. You'll work to cultivate a relationship full of connection, fun, gratitude, trust, and appreciation.
But what a lot of people end up with is stress, overwhelm, burnout, loneliness, insecurity, anxiety, and resentment.
The flame they once had begins to fade.
Roommate Syndrome is a normal part of relationships. But it doesn't have to be your final destination.
My goal is to show you how to outgrow it!
I want to give you the tools, resources, and principles you need to have a truly epic marriage.
When you fall in love and commit to spend your life with someone, the expectation is that - for the most part - you'll be treated with kindness and respect. You'll work to cultivate a relationship full of connection, fun, gratitude, trust, and appreciation.
But what a lot of people end up with is stress, overwhelm, burnout, loneliness, insecurity, anxiety, and resentment.
The flame they once had begins to fade.
Roommate Syndrome is a normal part of relationships. But it doesn't have to be your final destination.
My goal is to show you how to outgrow it!
I want to give you the tools, resources, and principles you need to have a truly epic marriage.
Are You Dealing With An Affair In Your Marriage?
Did you recently find out that your partner was cheating on you?
Have you engaged in an affair and you don't know what to do?
Roughly 50% of couples experience some form of infidelity at some point during their relationship.
If your relationship is struggling because of cheating or an affair, you're not alone.
This interview with Kimberly Holmes from Marriage Helper can help you begin to repair the relationship, or at the very least, begin the healing process.
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#Infidelity #Affair #Cheating
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Have you engaged in an affair and you don't know what to do?
Roughly 50% of couples experience some form of infidelity at some point during their relationship.
If your relationship is struggling because of cheating or an affair, you're not alone.
This interview with Kimberly Holmes from Marriage Helper can help you begin to repair the relationship, or at the very least, begin the healing process.
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#Infidelity #Affair #Cheating
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Get a 1-hour free workshop that shows you why MOST MARRIAGES GET WORSE OVER TIME, and how to ensure your is on...
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Man, these comments hit home So hard.
"Struggling" is an interesting word. Are they struggling, or do they just enjoy it and don't want to stop. They don't think it affects their life at all. Its just a tool to get the job done.
It is astonishing to me how we bend ourselves into pretzels in an effort to validate and legitimize the concerns of insecure wives by pretending not to see the truth of the matter which is that pornography is merely a form of entertainment that allows a husband to explore his sexual desires without actually going outside of the marriage to do so. All of those sexual things that you are unwilling to do with or for your husband, he gets to do in his head with the assistance of imagery created by people he has no connection to and with whom he has no ability to communicate, so the possibility that his use of pornography will actually turn into cheating with another woman is zero. Pornography provides your husband with the ability to experience augmented sexual fantasies, the very same fantasies that he would be masturbating to in his head if pornography were not available. But because of your insecurities, you want to shut down this avenue of pleasure for your man using a contrived and specious assertion that by watching pornography, he is engaging in an act of infidelity. Nothing could be further from the truth. He is masturbating to images on his screen INSTEAD of cheating on you. If your husband is choosing to masturbate to pornography instead of having sex with you, then I agree that that is a legitimate problem and you have a valid complaint. But if you’re getting your sexual needs met by your husband, then you’ve got no grievance and the issue you have with his use of pornography is nothing more than a reflection of the insecurity you feel about your own sexual market value and desirability. In almost every case, these concerns exist only in your head; your husband does not share them. He’s happy to engage in sexual activity with you for as long and as frequently as you will allow. You have nothing to fear from pornography. Let’s put the shoe on the other foot for a moment, shall we? Imagine your husband became irate and accused you of engaging in an act of marital infidelity because you like to watch romantic comedies or read romance novels. Imagine that your husband makes the assertion that, in his opinion, he should be the sole source of romance in your life and the fact that you’re watching these movies is an indication that you don’t think he’s romantic enough for you, that you are trying to get your needs for romance met outside of the marriage, and that this constitutes marital infidelity. You would recognize this as delusional. If he insisted that you never again watch another romantic comedy, watch another romance movie, read another romance novel, watch a sitcom on television that features romantic activities between lovers, etc., you would (rightly) tell him to go to hell because this is nothing more than a form of entertainment that you take a great deal of delight and pleasure from, it doesn’t pose a threat to the love you feel for him, and it doesn’t mean you are thinking of leaving the marriage. This is how we men feel when you give us ultimatums about watching pornography. Finally, if watching pornography were actually an act of marital infidelity or a form of betrayal of any sort, then husbands would be just as upset with their wives when their wives watch pornography as wives are when their husbands watch pornography (by the way, 1/3 of pornography viewers are women). But they are not; they will be happy to lie next to you in bed and watch pornography with you. Accordingly, the notion that watching pornography is a form of marital infidelity is a concept that exists only in your own mind and nowhere else. Therefore, your husband‘s viewing of pornography is not the problem. You having a problem with him viewing pornography, that is the problem. The solution requires an attitude adjustment on your part, not behavioral modification on his part.
"Im not going to train your spouse like youd train a monkey" 5sec later. "Train them like a gorilla. Because humans and gorillas are apes". Hahahhaha
Relationship should be transactional what’s the point of the relationship if u can’t look to ur partner for validation I understand what he’s saying but I don’t agree I think manipulation can be use in a positive way to get a good outcome in a situation
lol 😂 I thought I was nice but honestly I separate being kind vs deepening relationships. If anyone wants to get close or earning trust from me is you earn. I do not give what people do not deserve. I dealt with guys who do gossip and talk about other people. And I’m just not interested in that kind of crap, I got better ways to spend my time and better people to hang out with that Don’t do that kind of shit. I used to think that how I am now is I’m a selfish asshole, but I’m not thinking that way. I’m thinking, I am a man with value and if you want to be a part of that value, I just ask that you respect me and appreciate me. I do not ask really anything in return if you want to do something nice and I don’t expect anyone else to do anything nice when I do something for someone. I do it simply because I want to and that’s all there is to it, be your own person and be your own man. I just don’t think a nice guy is a real man, I think he is a scared little girl, that thinks way highly of himself and should care more about his own opinion of himself than other people’s opinions.
I’m really really tired of trying and trying, but get nowhere. And I’m tired of listening to these videos!
Like how I'm watching this and some sex AI ad pops up
In my experience, only one person commits to the gratitude and appreciation, making the contempt worse…
This is so me. Always trying to fix other problems for them and walking on eggshells so i can be liked by others. I'm always referred to as the "Nice Guy" I'm a people pleaser and its hard to break this cycle. I feel all I need to do is become an Asshole to ppl and ppl will eventually respect me
Jesus says get the log out of you own eye before you try to take it out of others! Or tell them to take it out! Yay God!!
I ate our cat now she wants to divorce 😢
Thank you for the clarifying the difference between sharing your thoughts and sharing your feelings. This is the first video I've seen from you, but I'm now subscribing to your channel. Is there a link for the next video you referred to?
Nah after I became honest with my gf just left me instead of wanting to help me be better and get better, fulfilling my worst fear about her
we sleep in different rooms. havent had sex in months. and months before that. i dont even know him anymore. if i had the financial means to leave i would. but i dont. So i look on the bright side of things. and make tn best of it.
what if roomate syndrome is the only syndrome you have had in a 11+ year relationship. you have kids. so its easier to become the roommate that it is to actually leave
yeah, we have roommate syndrome because we have not had intentional one on one time in 11+ years. not even 1 date night. this is what he wants not me. i tried to have time with him. he gets angry and says im nagging him. so yeah. i became an unexpected roommate in my own life story
How do you do this with an alcoholic or husband who has lost it. Abandons his wife & child and shacks up with a squatter and sleeps with her, then says its none of your business. Leaves the house with all the bills to you. Then you tell him he cannot bring his squatter whatever girlfriend to any of the properties to help him work. Irs disrespectful when you are married!! He says he loves me, but screws someone else. But if I say do not bring your squatter over to the property I own he stonewalls me??!! Solve that problem. When he does'nt bother with his daughter or even helps to do the most minor thing?? I merely draw boundaries and he does'nt want to hear it. Its odd & strange. He went nutso. Mind you we have been together 27 years
Great, video! **note to self: it is not always anger, or name calling,.. it can be a subtle mocking , feeling superior. Can even show up as being nice but subtle acting above them. I am learning more what this is and now realize my father asts so superior.. and can say things like "what do you know" He has done that for 50 years. I never knew but now I can see that s contempt. He does it to anyone that does not have a lot of money or just to some women.
It’s a choice yes, but not one that is entirely infront of us to make. often it’s behind so many walls of shame, shame that pushes further into isolation, shame that pushes misunderstanding and omission, shame that causes depression, anxiety and harm to self and in worst cases the people surrounding. this shame runs deeply in what society expects and presents, continuing the individualism and separation of community, the ability to speak up and talk about the fact it’s a problem and that it’s not just a fault it’s a biological change and altering of chemicals in the mind. blaming and pointing fingers does nothing to change this, and in many cases makes it worse, no one is asking you to accept a porn addicts addiction but showing a small amount of grace goes a longer way than blame and by extension shame does.
"Becoming one" isn't the title of this video. This is a video about co-dependency.
I lost you after 50% of this lecture … 6 principals mayby the 6th … I don’t see how any man addicted to porn can actually stay tuned throughout this whole lecture :( I wish someone would have a good one for the man so they can understand this is actually doing to their partners …
women are so horrible
it's every body!!dude any man get treated as u mention !!! 100% of us
My guy didn't WANT to quit and chose porn over me. a) he hid it. b) he minimised it when I found out, and promised to stop, but c) more lies - he didn't stop - ever; d) I caught him again and he lied AGAIN, telling me he'd stop. Then, I couldn't forget. I was traumatized, knowing at that point he was thinking about those nude women when he was "intimate" - HA! - with me. I couldn't stand it, so confronted him with it one more time. This time, he minimised, blame-shifted, gaslit me, told me he'd continue whether I wanted him to or not, etc, etc, and that if I didn't want to be with him in that way, it was fine, as he had "them". At that moment, any feelings I had for him DIED. He chose "them", and so that's what he has! And not only will I ever get back with him, I feel as though I'm done with men - with sex - for good. What is there to want? Someone who wants others? Nothing there for me. I could try again, but they say 69 - 95% of men are into porn. And they keep it secret and lie. So the odds don't seem very good to me there!
The defensive partner should also get to a point where they can respond to bad timing and criticism (hostility, angry tone and facial/body expressions, etc) without being defensive. Both partners need to learn to respond in more helpful and connecting ways to each other's imperfections.
I’ve read several of the Gottman’s book and you explained this perfectly. I needed the reminder of this today .
I don’t even know where to begin to look for local men’s groups like the ones you talk about. Any suggestions on how to find them?
"fundamental" good one.... not sure how it will be received by my parnter. but that's how i see it.
2:09 "leads to next week's topic" hellooooo looks like i'm watching videos out of order (pertaining to my comment on the as mentioned future, past, video)
i think it's very key in the flow of horsemen - critical-defensive-contempt-stonewall - as a tit-tat flow. One leads into the other. in your summary "own how you approached" starts at were you critical or where you looking to resolve a dispute? if the partner is a spazz and overly defensive then well there's no amount of eggshelling around them will work and that person needs to therapy up. but if every interaction starts with an accusation that they fail as a human, then yes, the partner will get defensive, you will look down on them, continue the 1-2-3 cycle a few times until they chose to no longer interact -4.
11:36 "you're right, i'll try my best not to do it again" incorrect set up for failure on that one and setup for more contempt. habitual changes vs personality changes vs commitments are different. pick your battles.
I can tell you my story I recently married my middle school crush we met when we were 11 or 12 and then we met again in our 30s. My parents and I spent over $20,000 planning and orchestrating a movie dream like wedding for him and for me last week I found out by mistake on his phone, he has been looking at girls that are barely 18 years old on only fans. Yes, I’m being dead serious only fans. What a terrible thing for anybody to happen and I have become victim to it same with my husband. I literally don’t have any trust for him at all. I feel the ultimate betrayal and because when he did it, it was a very crucial mental, psychological abusive time for me, I was going through a lot at that time and he was wanking off for a dopamine, fix girls barely turning 18. I’m a very attractive woman I could sleep with a man I could sleep with a woman I used to love all of them the only man I love was my husband and now, I am not confident in my appearance. I have stopped taking care of myself because I have been suicidal and depressed like crazy. I’m being dead serious. I was in an abusive relationship about 10 years ago and our relationship ended almost the same exact way, but I found out my partner was on plenty of fish dating websites and his own best friend had told me what he was doing and so now that I’m out of that abusive relationship, I spent 10 years or longer, learning about myself and what I deserve as a person and looking out for abusive partners and what not have in my life and what to have in my life and now that I’m with my now husband, I find out that he’s been doing almost the same thing as my lastboyfriend who was abusive to me he’s been fucking off on only fans. We’re literally just tied the knot. We just got married and then I find this shit out. I am so devastated that I can’t even look at myself in the mirror. I can’t even look at my husband. I have no attraction for my husband whatsoever, I am disgusted, honest to God and now I can’t trust anybody it’s been completely disrespectful to me and our marriage because we made a commitment to God, I don’t know what to do right now. At this point I can’t stop obsessing over it and I see the girls that he was looking at and now I don’t feel pretty. I don’t feel good enough and I want to die.
I can tell you my story I recently married my middle school crush we met when we were 11 or 12 and then we met again in our 30s. My parents and I spent over $20,000 planning and orchestrating a movie dream like wedding for him and for me last week I found out by mistake on his phone, he has been looking at girls that are barely 18 years old on only fans. Yes, I’m being dead serious only fans. What a terrible thing for anybody to happen and I have become victim to it same with my husband. I literally don’t have any trust for him at all. I feel the ultimate betrayal and because when he did it, it was a very crucial mental, psychological abusive time for me, I was going through a lot at that time and he was wanking off for a dopamine, fix girls barely turning 18. I’m a very attractive woman I could sleep with a man I could sleep with a woman I used to love all of them the only man I love was my husband and now, I am not confident in my appearance. I have stopped taking care of myself because I have been suicidal and depressed like crazy. I’m being dead serious. I was in an abusive relationship about 10 years ago and our relationship ended almost the same exact way, but I found out my partner was on plenty of fish dating websites and his own best friend had told me what he was doing and so now that I’m out of that abusive relationship, I spent 10 years or longer, learning about myself and what I deserve as a person and looking out for abusive partners and what not have in my life and what to have in my life and now that I’m with my now husband, I find out that he’s been doing almost the same thing as my lastboyfriend who was abusive to me he’s been fucking off on only fans. We’re literally just tied the knot. We just got married and then I find this shit out. I am so devastated that I can’t even look at myself in the mirror. I can’t even look at my husband. I have no attraction for my husband whatsoever, I am disgusted, honest to God and now I can’t trust anybody it’s been completely disrespectful to me and our marriage because we made a commitment to God, I don’t know what to do right now. At this point I can’t stop obsessing over it and I see the girls that he was looking at and now I don’t feel pretty. I don’t feel good enough and I want to die.
Shane Gillis was just talking about this on his new podcast episode
Quick dopamine chasing. Same as snorting a small quick line or taking a large shot of alcohol. They have sex in their face everywhere like advertisements, movies, social media ..women being sexualised in so many ways every day. I dont think its easy for them to break the habit of wanting this hit but what worked well for my partner was realising they are people and complete strangers with their own issues and problems that if you met most of them you prob wouldnt be attracted to them as soon as you got to know them and then at the end of the day youre then literally glorifying some strangers body just for a second pair of b**bs to look at! Its just skin and fat hun, your wife has it your girlfriend has it hell your granny has it, stop glorifying something so ridiculous 😂
Excellent therapist
STORY OF MY LIFE
So he’s a frog now do I break up?
Nate & Chad, this was an incredible episode. I especially resonated with ‘facing your darkness’ and going into the cave to see what’s in there. Seeing one’s capacity for evil, or whatever it is that we don’t want to associate with. It gave me great insight.
I have to disagree. A big reason is that whether you are a nice guy or a jerk is determined by the other person, or at least which one you're seen as. Women make nice guys because they teach boys that women want a man who treats them a certain way, including mothers who raise their boys to not be the bad boy men who treated them horribly, even though that's the men the mother is probably still attracted to. Most times if a woman is asked what a man needs to do to get her attracted, they'll often talk about buying flowers, taking her to a nice restaurant, essentially how much money he spends on her. Romcoms teach that the nice guy gets the girl in the end, after she's been hurt by the bad boy along with the idea that women love over the top productions of romantic displays. But men become confused when they do these things yet women are still drawn to the bad boys who do everything that hurts the woman. To give one example where yes, the opposite of nice guy is to be a jerk, most dating/relationship coaches teach how women test men, along with discussing men needing to set boundaries that will be tested. They explain that "nice guys" will simply go along with a woman, thinking that always being 100% agreeable will make her happy and like him. Or if they set a boundary and she appears upset over it, if he gives in and drops it, he's seen as failing her test. But most women don't just "test" to see if he passes, they test to see how far it can go before he does relent. So if a man fails to set a boundary or he gives in as soon as she pushes against it, he's seen as failing her test and being the nice guy in hopes she doesn't get upset with him. But what happens if he holds his ground? Does he pass? Not really. Most women just keep pushing, and pushing, and pushing. If at any time he gives in, again, he's the nice guy and has failed. If he doesn't, in the end, she hasn't gotten her way and is upset. If she's upset, she'll often end the relationship. And if the relationship ends because the man refused to do what would make her happy, that makes him....... we all know the answer. He's now a jerk (at least to put it mildly). So yes, what is the opposite of a nice guy? A jerk. There is no in between, at least to the woman.
Wow, it's amazing how we've gotten to the point where being a nice guy is seen as a bad thing. I've seen a lot of videos where women say they'd always pick a bad boy over a nice guy even though she's probably had experience where the bad boy has cheated on her, treated her like crap and possibly abused her. It's really funny that I'll see a ton of videos like this where it exposes how nice guys are horrible people but the bad boy gets the pass because he looks good and rides a motorcycle. Sorry but I've seen too many bad boys destroy a woman's life including my first wife and even if it means being alone, I'd rather remain being nice rather than sink to the level of being an abusive jerk.
Yeah. Serial killers have a better rep than nice guys these days.
The tip about avoiding "I feel like you..." is brilliant, and so on point!! Gonna share this vid for sure.
Ohhh gawd 😱🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ there's an actual thing about this dudes freaking behavior. I was wondering how the f is someone who is so insecure actually a narcissist? Wow. Just....ugh. ew.
my wife and I are reversed in this. I am the emotional one, she struggles with how to express emotions and gets cold/ stonewalls continually.
This is so wholesome. Thank you for sharing!
Been married to Mr Nice Guy of 38 years…not something I would ever wish for anyone…
My ex would say the same thing. She left me for the bad boy who abused her in all ways including physically and not only did he cheat on her, after they were married he got two women pregnant. He didn't work a job and made her pay for everything. He was an alcoholic and drug addict. He not only hit on my ex's two younger sisters but went so far as suggesting threesomes. When my ex finally got pregnant for the first time at about 40, he did what he always did which was to run out, leaving her middle-aged and with an infant. Guess who got a call after she learned he died from a heart attack to see if he was still single. So yes, I can see the appeal of the bad boy over the nice guy. One will cheat on you and abuse you, the other won't. One is responsible and takes care of you and the other won't. Wait, why do you women pick the bad boy over the nice guy?
Well , it looks like it’s always the same person who is going to end up cleaning the dishes .
Great advice and explanations, thank you!