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I like to max level before beating a game that won't happen with this game I beat it at level 260 but I have a fun play style and I don't buff it's took a year and was still plenty hard😊

There are some fights where i wish i hadn't used summons because they felt like a let down, but there are some, like malenia and consort radahn, where i feel satisfied no matter what. I will also say that summons are sometimes not useful at all. Like if a boss moves around a lot and covers a lot of distance, your summons, if it's melee, may never catch up to even land an attack.

For me, i feel like fighting the bosses without summons is when i want to have a challenge. the epic 1v1 with an absolute beast of a boss. But when ur still learning, ur not gonna want to go through that struggle. I only beat the game once without summons, and recommend it for a seperate run just to challenge urself. Other than that anything goes for your experience.

Weird that you find Dragon's Dogma's combat so satisfying and polished when in my experience it's just very very average in all aspects. I wonder why there is such a discrepancy in our opinions. I think the biggest flaw in it's combat is the lack of responisviness that comes from the animations taking long to complete and stripping away control from the player.

I just beat Radahn in the dlc using just my bare fists. Took me 13 hours 😮

Souls players cherish their first souls game. This idea it's just people with an ego trip is just people saving their egos ironically enough. Yes using everything once the slightest bit of resistance hits you is cheating yourself. When a game is challenging and gives you tools to modulate difficulty and you just use it to bypass every fight in a game about combat is a bit misguided. Call it gatekeeping but I call it giving a shit about if you're cheating yourself out of one of the best gaming experiences of your life just because you wanted easy street. It's why that "you cheated not only the game but yourself" meme is so popular for a short while there". Honestly people in the comment section talking about people like me like we're the jock in high-school who gave them a wedgie. We just care about your gameplay experience because we know the experience we had when we chose not to give into sweet temptation.

Your friend was lying because it's not possible to get to level 300 in one afternoon. Assuming he started with an already highly leveled endgame character to begin with which most people in the community will accept is around 150, it would take 150 more levels to get to 300 which would take almost 68 million runes. The fastest way to farm runes is to use the sacred relic sword to kill the albinaurics at mohgwyn while using the golden scarab and a gold picked foul foot and if done absolutely efficiently on a PC with a good enough specs to load quickly on resting will bag around 7.2 million runes per hour which would mean almnost 10 hours of continuous farming with perfect efficiency and not a single break in the entire process. So yeah, your friend was lying.

These people are those miserable Maths teachers who fail you for getting the correct answers with a different equation.

It's not exactly a problem in the conventional sense. There is no overarching connection between all the different ways sour players will try to gatekeep the experiences and perspectives of others in these games. It's a phenomenon more than anything else; emergent from the underlying trends individual players develop as they struggle and adapt to the game formula. More importantly, there aren't actually that many of these people. They just happen to be an unfortunately vocal minority, which is par for the course on the internet. We recognize the trends, and conclude there is a problem responsible for it, but it's only inevitable discourse of an unanticipated scale. The correct response is in realizing to ignore it, as drawing any attention to it only puts more fuel into the discussions, rather than resolving them. Ultimately nobody has any right to dictate how other people play, and we're all free to do what we please regardless, because these naysayers are only ever that, naysayers. They can gloat or whinge about the game and how it's "meant" to be played all they want, but it doesn't have to affect a single one of us, if we refuse to let it. Simply stick around in the community a bit longer, and offer greater kindness and knowledge, try to balance the discourse with new topics, and the "problem" ceases to exist

I'm a level 600 player. Grinded a lot. Don't see anyone complaining when I tank and beat the hardest bosses for them...

Stop giving a shit what random people online say? Just spitballing here.

Great video and I agree with you!

I'm getting tired of people coping, these games aren't designed with ranged spam or summons in mind. Yes, they are in the game so that casuals don't ragequit because they actually have to put in effort however that doesn't mean boss or enemy AI in general has any way to still provide a challenge once you use them. If you're having trouble use the level up system + heavier armor/2 weapons and damage negating/boosting talismans. This makes the fights easier but still ensures you have to do most of the work with learning movesets and attack windows.

Play how you want. The game gives you options. I will try a boss without a summons. But I am also not spending hours learning patterns. If they are whooping me then out comes the summons. Explore and level up, and if you are stuck, then farm away. The game is to enjoy, not to play the same way.

in previous soulsborne games Faith was just balanced intelligence

Yaknow it’s always funny as an outsider to the souls community or at least used to be a lot of the veterans hype up the game as this like basically just guts simulator except you don’t get to use anything outside of his sword when the way I have always seen it we are literal humans just insignificant individuals of little renown fighting against literal gods demons deities monsters and so on why the absolute fuck would I NOT use anything that I can let alone something I figure out for myself people are wild lmao.

Basically people who wanted dark souls 4 not only plays the game like it is dark souls 4 refusing any new tools that helps the player but also want to pretend that their way is the only valid one because they cannot fathom a world where everyone just does their own thing

Another casual making a obsessed 8 minute video about how letting a bot, beat another bot is somehow their achievement. Apply this logic to ANY other game, digitial or not, and it would never make sense. Obviously it doesn't make sense here either but you can't convince casuals that letting the game play itself isn't them overcoming the challenge. You get to play the game however you want, you paid for it. But don't act like you beat the bosses or scenarios/challenges this game provides when you make the game beat itself. Yes that boss went down to 0 health.. no you did not beat it. Mario games these days have "golden suits" and "auto play" modes. By you casuals logic, the people who use these still get full credit for beating the game because "tHe MeChAnIc iS iN tHe gAmE sO iTs cLeArLy iNtEnDeD tO bE uSeD". Let me just ask this one thing. If summoning a NPC to do the fight for you is somehow "intended/ available mechanic/ just for fun. Then how come ALL OF YOU use the mimic tear? There are, what, 40+ summons in the game with varying abilitys/health/range. So how come ALL OF YOU, picked the mimic tear? Because you don't care about intended mechanics. You, ON PURPOSE, picked the strongest, most busted available summon available so you get wins for free. Use whatever summon and cooperator summon and summon a friend, no one cares, that was never the point. The point was that you casuals play the game on super mega easy movie mode while claiming your are good at it. It's wild that you people are completely willing to let the game play itself just because it doesn't specificly say " easy mode" and then claim you beat the game. You didn't, you watched a bot do it. All of this is objectively, factually correct. None of this is an opinion. It's the truth you people can't handle.

You paid for the game you play it your way. This is how the souls community has always been. The only reason it’s more “outspoken” is because new players go online, talk about how a boss was easy/pushover. Just for them to say they used mimic+ blasphemous blade or some other really powerful weapon. It rubs the the veterans the wrong way who have more skill than a new player.

I have a friend who doesn't do this at all, but insists these standards on himself. He's played all of the mainline games, but has not completed any of them. 😢

Who wouldn't like to fight bosses with your twin?! It's very FUN. Mimic tear is the best bro out there, it's like Aoi todo from JJK.

What gets me every time is seeing someone fight the same boss dozens of times, over & over, with the same equipment in a game with almost countless combinations of weapons, armor, spells, incants & talismans & then they get mad at the game. LMFAO🤦 Literally the definition of insanity lol.

Still have to get the items and skilla and the levels to use them appropriately

using spirit ashes OP wepons ash of war, magic etc its not the incorrect way to play but in fact the most Optimal way to play instead, if people want to make it harder for themselves let them do it! but don't impose your delusions upon others.

I got the mimic tear to 10+ and defeated Malenia, Maliketh, Gideon, Godfrey, Radagon, and the Elden Beast in 2 hours. I also was able to beat Godfrey in one try without dying. I had so much momentum that I beat the game before I knew where Mohg was. The Mimic tear is great and it doesn't require Focus Points, so if you're a strength build who doesn't use cowardly and blasphemous magicks it is still attainable. Plus, since it's the only ash I use, I used the Grave Gloveworts I've been collecting for the past 100 hours to max it out nearly instantly. It's not foolproof though. Sometimes your mimic will - for no reason other than to piss me off - try to one hand a two handed weapon. I saw my boy swinging a Zweihänder as if it were an Einshänder.

I always saw Elden Ring and the rest of the Souls games as metaphors for facing life and it's challenges, with Dark Souls being a particularly strong comparison to fighting depression. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what tactic or strategy you used to overcome your hardships, what matters is that you did. You came out the other side stronger than before, no matter how many times you fell, you always got back up and that is something to be proud of. And it is a crying shame that people miss the forest for the trees with these games focusing on small and insignificant details such as how someone overcame the challenges they faced labelling them as inferior due to their own prejudice and ego.

for me mimic is no skill but what does that have to do with me.Everyone can do what he wants , its a game!!

If there is a mechanic in the game then it is meant to be used. Even I have a friend that feels that using any helping mechanic is cheating. But he doesn't keep complaining about it since I won't stop using mechanics the game gives us.

I love how mad people get when I show up, full bullgoat, level 713 to shit on their stupid Golden Crux spammer builds. I tried to be honorable and follow dumb metas when I first got into the game. But I got traumatized by maidenless behavior and now I’m out here cosplaying a miniboss in invasions. Edit: I should add that I mostly play seamless co-op. Which makes it even funnier because every player can use summoms and stuff in imvasions with that mod and it doesn’t always put you against people in the same RL bracket as you xD

Honestly the problem with some people is that they forget that this is just a game and it is meant to be fun...what is fun for me might not be for you and that is okay as long as we are both enjoying the game.

People act like using summons or different mechanics make you a complete god. Like I still die, a lot. Makes no difference.

"You" can beat the game however you want. But if "you" = streamer or content creator... git gud scrub. They don't have difficulties in the game- what you choose to abuse is the unofficial difficulty meter. And I'll gatekeep against any content creator who plays a game with an actual difficulty meter on "story/casual" mode too. At least play on "normal". There's a demographic for story/casual mode- if my aunt played ER she can abuse whatever she finds. You see the FS fanbase gatekeeping grandma!? But if your job or sidegig is gaming... heck, if you're just a ~12-36 year old single male with no major impairments and at least one FS title completed, then that demographic shouldn't be you. But ESPECIALLY if your job or sidegig is gaming.

Elden ring is by far the easiest souls game by a mile, and it's not like the series is impossibly hard to where only the very beat can beat it. Fromsoft makes games that can be frustrating but designed still that an average peraon can beat it. It's completely justifiable for long time fans to be upset when the newest game is marketed as breath of the wild slop, and to the lowest common denominator, people who don't want a challenge and actually achive something on there own. Thats why summons exist, thats why invading sucks in elden ring, and thats why ashes of war do obscene damage.

For my first play through I used the Blasphemous Blade, which a ton of people would call cheating, and now I’m playing a status build which a ton of people would also call cheating, there is no winning with these kinds of people

You use faith for holy magic and lightning. I use it for Poison Mist and running away. We are not the same.

People who say using summons is bad or cheating are dumb and insecure, but so are you if them saying that affects your enjoyment of the game in the slightest. I seriously don't get why "git gud" fans of the souls series are such a big problem, they can't force you to do anything and you don't have to listen to anything they say, just play the game.

What's funny is that the Mimic Tear isn't a free win button. If you just summon it, then nothing else it will die. Then you're in a one on one. I typically use it for the increased damage output and to help distract the harder bosses while I heal

These kinds of people make me laugh. Its my game, its my free time - I'll play the game however the hell I damn well please. If some sweaty incel nerd wants to have a cry about that then they can go right ahead. It's a "them" problem - they're desperate for validation so feel they need to square themselves up with everyone they can, and then even in the absence of any possible logical comparisons to make they just make one up and lie to you and also themselves about how much better they are. These people are possessed by a relentless need to stroke their own fragile egos no matter the cost (or the legitimacy), and i have to imagine a person like that goes on to live a very unsatisfying life. I'd probably almost pity them, if I gave even the faintest whiff of a $hit about anything to do with them. 🤔

Elden ring is my first soles and I havnt stopped playing it for a whole year. As I always say about video games, if the devs add it, I can use it. So people need to stop being so pressed about completing it a certain way. If the devs didn't want us to play how we wanted, they wouldn't add this stuff such as summons and mimic Tire and bleed and all that. People just need to chill

Here comes the mage players with no ability to build craft and no concept of build theory to downplay the class 😭

Fromsoft community is so cringe its actually a reason I don’t play Elden ring anymore

Nice video great points cheers

Consider: me like big colours and sounds, true unga bunga is stick that does those, not doing math and hitting things with an f150 on a stick

This also goes the other way around my friend people telling others that they are not special or better just bc they played solo or that they are idiots for not using op weapons and summons they say this to justify how they play and to feel better about themselves play like you want and do whats fun for you there is no right or wrong if you need the extra help use it but i recommend everyone to try it at least without summons or op stuff because it will def make you a better player

If u use mimic tear it’s cheating bro *uses impenetrable thorns bleed build*

The problem is ego and pride

You want the hardest challenge you can get? Start placing your own restrictions. No leveling, no summoning etc. Looking for a more relaxed play-through? Grind those levels, grab a summon, and go to town. The difficulty is dictated by the player. No need to belittle someone's use of summons or level grinding. This does go both ways of course, there are some people that claim the game is easy and they conveniently leave out that they max-leveled and use summons. That experience is different from the experience of someone placing restrictions on themselves and are not comparable. Are both still valid game-clears? Yes, but we can still acknowledge, one does make the experience harder.

Me and my friends and I play the game like it's DND. One person is a mage, one person is DPS, and the other is the tank, and we have fun playing this way.

Everyone knows your supposed to play Elden ring while blindfolded, one arm tied behind your back, 15 fps, level 1, no summons, no upgrades, no armor, no spells, no talking to NPCs, no torrent, unbind your movement keys, 120 degrees in your room with no a/c, no lock on, fists only, no dodging, play without a monitor (audio only), cut off your fingers, have a jet engine going in the background, no-hit the entire game all while the Taliban is in your room holding you at gunpoint if you take damage. If you can’t play like that, you simply need to get better and stop being so terrible at games

Honestly I'm just impressed about your friend farming runes until level 300. My NG+4 characters isn't even 300 yet. I can't imagine the sheer balls of him genociding those albinaurics. Congrats to him tho lol