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Just design. Buy the one that bets serves your pocket. I'd not even bother about the factory OC

@TheOverclockerMagazine like all 3 are at 750$ +/- 10$

A bunch of features that I personally don't think will matter to 99% of people 99.99% of the time.

Numbers say otherwise as 13th and 14th Gen continue to sell. Don't mistake YT comments and forums as representing the entire market. Less than 5% of people had issues with their CPUs. Moreover the issue has been mitigated now. At the reduced prices 14th and 13th Gen represent great value.

@@TheOverclockerMagazine Lucky guy I am I'd win that lottery.

Fair enough, but most people still only have 1Gbps connections so not too much of an issue I think

It's in the name, so yes it does 😎

96GB @ 8000 is possible for sure, just depending on the IMC and it's capabilities

@@TheOverclockerMagazine So, it depends on the Mobo itself then. It's an ASUS ProArt Z890, not an OC Mobo you are usually using. I am asking for your experience, since it's a lot of investment to get 2x kits of Kingston Fury Renegade 8000Mhz DDR5 Limited Edition, which are very expensive in Europe. I think that they are the only 8000Mhz 2x24GB CL32 kits on the market. The CL is also very important for AI apps as well, on the contrary the 8000Mhz speed benefits the 3D apps a lot (V-Ray/Corona/C23 etc). Thank you

@xarisathos They are CL36. Rather check the QVL of your Motherboard for supported speeds at those capacities

@@TheOverclockerMagazine I always do and the 2x24GB kit is mentioned on the QVL page of ProArt Z890. The manufacturers do test only the available commercial kits like this one, but never the combinations that users want to make. There are 4x48GB kits (from Corsair) but at much worse speeds and CLs (5200Mhz@CL38), since these aren't CUDIMMs. I am totally inexperienced on CUDIMMs and I am asking you if now, because of the on-board controller, the 4x24GB DIMMs will be stable enough at the advertised speeds and latency. It's well known that once you populate all 4x DIMM slots, the advertised speeds drop a lot. For the Ultra 200 series the speeds drop at 4800Mhz (for SS)/4400Mhz (for DS) and for Ryzen 9000 at 3600Mhz (I think) as it did with Zen 3. I have seen a video about Ryzen getting 192GB (4x48GB) @6000Mhz from the original kits of 6400Mhz, considering the fact the Ryzen have worse IMCs than Intel in general. Please enlighten me, because it will be a huge sacrifice for my workflow to get only 96GB (4x24GB), instead of 192GB on the 285K, but if I can reach 8000Mhz@CL36 it will be a great trade-off for frequent Handbrake transcoding and AI training apps that are very memory sensitive workflows, as you have shown on your videos. Thank you in advance for your time

Well you should grab whilst there is stock ;)

This is true

Will do. May not be these same sticks, but they will be dual rank A-die ICs so should apply to universally to some degree.

​@TheOverclockerMagazi oh yes that works for me. I'm using vengeance 2x32 3800c32 kit. Thanks!! You got a new sub

This is a budget board using what I think are 60A power stages in a teamed setup, at least for the CPU cores. So essentially an 8+8 design. This should be more than enough for regular use and overclocked settings (barring LN2 overclocking). I'd not stress too much about it unless if you are indeed looking to do some LN2 overclocking with an i7/i9

@ thank you

I'll have to update the video description to reflect that. Thanks for the heads up!

That's true, Nitro Path is a 4-DIMM feature. I should have made that clearer.

Nah, unless there's something specific you want in that model you're good

The "II" in the name means it's the updated version. Much better than the first in performance and screen function

Manual. Most decent to good Adie should do this easily

It doesn't activate per say, that's an optical effect. There's no RGB lighting there

Thank you for the kind words

This is meant for pushing peak performance, whereas the hero is more focused on the quality of life features. Hero won't necessarily make the same DRAM speeds either, while the Apex is almost tuned for this. In everyday functions though I'd take the apex

That sucks. Sorry about that. I never did use that motherboard ever

@@TheOverclockerMagazine its good MB but lacks some features, i dodnt expect that, maybe its because im using i3 cpu ?

@ViperBenchmarks what are you trying to do? For instance, high speed memory is difficult with non K SKU CPUs especially i3. The IMC is generally weak, so memory may struggle with 4000+. But there shouldn't be too many features you are sacrificing versus an i5.

@@TheOverclockerMagazine just add some mhz for igpu, mem oc works fine on i3 [im using 3600mhz ram and dont need more]

That's awesome to hear! Glad you're getting a lot of use out of it! 👍

You're not supposed to put anything into the radiator. It's an AIO, and needs no servicing of the coolant

Apologies for the late reply. I'd go with Gigabyte as I've not used an MSI board in almost 10 years so can't speak to their quality. However I do use Gigabyte boards often, so that's where I have info. I say go with GBT from my end. Great specs BTW, really nice 👌🏾

Yeah seems these are far less common than the silver modules in many regions

@ are you familiar with Jumbo computer supplies? They’re HK based, but I found some there. I wasn’t sure if they were legit or not

Appreciate the kind words! 🤝

No, not at all.

@ lol then what is the point of low latency?

It's just XMP with the ratio set to 8200 instead of 8000. Nothing fancy. Usual trefi at 131071 etc. Basically what Asus gives you if you select XMP tweaked

Not used the latest BIOS. If it has lag now that would really be unfortunate.

@TheOverclockerMagazine mouse and keyboard totally won't respond to my keystrokes for the first 30seconds! Then it will all come in at once

They are identical. The ICE edition has the exact same specs as this model

Thanks dude 🤙🏾

What, for real? I had no idea they had different SKUs for different markets ok this board.

That sounds like the Wifi model and not the Wifi II

@@TheOverclockerMagazine You're right! Wow I didn't realize there was a WiFi II Version. Black Friday pricing is already starting in Canada, so the WiFi 6E version is $500 CAD after taxes (~ $6500 SAR), and the WiFi II is $530 CAD after taxes ($6850 SAR). The Hero's all start around $750 - $800 CAD and higher

That sounds like such an in incredible machine. Actually it is the fastest gaming setup money can buy. Should be an incredible experience

At what speeds are you have memory incompatability? 6000 and 6400 should not be an issue whatsoever even for 7000 series.

Nope. No RGB anywhere

That's what I do, too! 😉

@@TheOverclockerMagazine well i hope r9 5900x will work fine. 😄

That's CL30. If anyone writes 6000 CL30 they are usually if not always talking about the CAS Latency. So you have a CL30 kit. Which is the good wine with great IC's. 😉

Thata awesome of you 🌟 As for the memory, it's hard to find in some regions, but if you can get this kit, it's awesome.

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