285K is not worth buying for gaming and Intel locking out the average overclocker really hurts these chips. Awesome review and I'm glad I found your channel. Thank you RUclips algo for recommending!!
intel claims the issue is bios and windows issues that they plan on getting looked at and fixed to sort out the gaming performance issues on 200 series
@@ployth9000 That's kinda what I'm waiting for is fixes. I saw an article on TechPowerUp a few days ago where they were talking to Intel spokesperson about it. Hopefully by the end of the year we'll see some fixes. I'm kinda on the fence between the 285k and 9950X3D. I'm waiting for the RTX 5090, which by the time it launches that should be plenty of time for Intel to fix scheduling issues and such. Hopefully Q1 or Q2 of next year we'll see some updated reviews comparing CPU's on RTX 5090. I need a CPU for both gaming and some productivity, so I'm keeping my options open. Hopefully after CES 2025 we'll get some more options for motherboards as well. Maybe some more CUDIMM modules, and perhaps the introduction of CAMM2 motherboards. My new build will be for 4k on a Sony Bravia 9 TV, so I could lean either way on CPU choice.. Now that X3D chips can be overclocked, I'm a little unsure which one I'll end up buying in early 2025.
Omg finally a good review, the ram setup, ultra settings in games while keeping low res to avoid gpu bottleneck... Thank you!!! I hope you make more reviews like this and find success. Maybe some max OC comparisons 14900k vs 285k vs 9800x3d? 😇
I just built a 245K and so far it works well. It overclocks great 5.5P's and 5.0E's without a lot of voltage or heat. It runs DDR5 7600 @ 8000 cl34 however the best latency I can get is 67.1. It does 27K R23 multi. and it does all of this and stays cool. I understand that Intel is working on the short comings of this series and should have a fix very soon? I only play an older game that is unaffected by all of this. Chiplet latency is costing about 10% and I hope they addresses that...
This is a CPU for edit video or make music. Its not designed for gaming. Even though i wouldnt give a fuck if i have like just 170 Fps instead of 200fps. Thats a first world problem. So even for gaming its still ok, just not the best.
Would love to see the SupePi test and games redone with Kingston CUDIMM since these chips gain massive performance with Clocked Memory. I've seen the Ultra 9 285k get close to the 7800X3D in games with CUDIMM. Btw best honest review I've seen so far, everyone else is throwing hissy fits these are not doing well in gaming as of yet. But you are as cool as a cucumber lol.
Tbank you for the comment. 🍻 I hear you and also think, there's no need to take a CPUs performance personal. Still a fun platforn for tuning, with good productivity, performance and improved power consumption
Great CPU for someone who knows about tuning. Intel and AMD are pretty much tied right now....Just got my 9950X and with a very mild tune(PBO,DDR5 6400 CL30....GB6- 3555/24791 After tuning properly should hit 3600/26000 easy.
@@wreckage-vs5jv Okay, and what would putting those chips in do for us? This video is him investigating the 285K. He even took the time to provide some tuned CPU data. All this video is, is him showing us what the 285K is about. He’s not arguing about whether or not one should buy it or not. Adding other CPUs that he didn’t readily have on hand achieves nothing. He didn’t have to provide data for any CPU aside from the 285K if he didn’t want to.
Since when is that a rule of any kind? The graphs show you the performance of a particular CPU. Yours is to determine if that performance is worth the price for you that's all. It's not a versus
@@TheOverclockerMagazine ohh yes you are right. So it's OK to compare a fully tuned car to another and claim one is much better, I see your logic is sound.
I've got both a 265K and 285K. 100% get the 265K. The chip has better latency than the 285K by about 5ns. I got mine down to 63ns and I can't get below 67-68ns on my 285K. This has to do with the core arrangement. In games, I can't tell a difference. The 265K is a banger at productivity as well, getting well over 39K in CB23 when optimized and OC.
@@TalonsTech Crazy how a lot of these reviewers are sucking off the new X3D chips so hard right now when they still blow ass in Productivity task. Literally almost every review of the 9800X3D I've seen so far just mention gaming and the few honest reviewers show the Ultra beating the 9800X3D in Single and Multithread apps. Its like people forgot you can do other things with a PC besides game. 265k Is more then enough for me gaming at 4K.
wow I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was this bad. What a shitty product my 13900ks on 3800 bdie looks like a stud compared to this shit lol. Thanks for the review I was looking for the aida data
Numbers say otherwise as 13th and 14th Gen continue to sell. Don't mistake YT comments and forums as representing the entire market. Less than 5% of people had issues with their CPUs. Moreover the issue has been mitigated now. At the reduced prices 14th and 13th Gen represent great value.
So we tune 'this and that' so it sucks less. Fine but that still doesn't make it a great processor. Compared to AMD it's in fact miles off from being great...
Are you sharing your general sentiments on the CPU or responding to what was said? Because if it's a response, understand that at no point did I say this is a great CPU in general. I presented a nuanced perspective based on the mumbers recorded. It is good in particular applications, and not up to scratch in gaming. Intel has made strides in power efficiency and productivity applications but has gone backwards in raw gaming performance. This can't be that tough to understand.
Comparisons with 9600X only? Just remove AMD from the lot if you want to compare Intel CPUs but if you do - it is all bull.. no 9700X, 9950X, 7800X3D etc???
@@TheOverclockerMagazine The purpose of your video is to make a wise decision to choose a cpu and you dismally failed on that aspect unless what you are doing is post anything that piqued your interest, YT watchers be damned.
@@Hyperion1722That's your first mistake. 1. You don't get to tell me what my purpose is. I define that, hence it's my channel.. Not yours. 2. I don't do this for you, but me. Those who find value in what I do will stay, those who don't will go. It isn't complicated or difficult at all. 3. Go and find what appeals to you. Do not waste your time or life on things you don't like. You deserve better than that. All the best to you and thanks for the comments 🍻
285K is not worth buying for gaming and Intel locking out the average overclocker really hurts these chips. Awesome review and I'm glad I found your channel. Thank you RUclips algo for recommending!!
Do all you do is game on PC?
@@thetheoryguy5544 For a workstation chip it is good for productivity but if you game and work on it. There are better options at a cheaper price.
intel claims the issue is bios and windows issues that they plan on getting looked at and fixed to sort out the gaming performance issues on 200 series
@@ployth9000 That's kinda what I'm waiting for is fixes. I saw an article on TechPowerUp a few days ago where they were talking to Intel spokesperson about it. Hopefully by the end of the year we'll see some fixes.
I'm kinda on the fence between the 285k and 9950X3D. I'm waiting for the RTX 5090, which by the time it launches that should be plenty of time for Intel to fix scheduling issues and such.
Hopefully Q1 or Q2 of next year we'll see some updated reviews comparing CPU's on RTX 5090. I need a CPU for both gaming and some productivity, so I'm keeping my options open. Hopefully after CES 2025 we'll get some more options for motherboards as well. Maybe some more CUDIMM modules, and perhaps the introduction of CAMM2 motherboards.
My new build will be for 4k on a Sony Bravia 9 TV, so I could lean either way on CPU choice.. Now that X3D chips can be overclocked, I'm a little unsure which one I'll end up buying in early 2025.
Just like with zen, zen +, and zen 2
They sucked for gaming but was amazing for editing
Omg finally a good review, the ram setup, ultra settings in games while keeping low res to avoid gpu bottleneck... Thank you!!! I hope you make more reviews like this and find success. Maybe some max OC comparisons 14900k vs 285k vs 9800x3d? 😇
I just built a 245K and so far it works well. It overclocks great 5.5P's and 5.0E's without a lot of voltage or heat. It runs DDR5 7600 @ 8000 cl34 however the best latency I can get is 67.1. It does 27K R23 multi. and it does all of this and stays cool.
I understand that Intel is working on the short comings of this series and should have a fix very soon? I only play an older game that is unaffected by all of this. Chiplet latency is costing about 10% and I hope they addresses that...
This is a CPU for edit video or make music. Its not designed for gaming. Even though i wouldnt give a fuck if i have like just 170 Fps instead of 200fps. Thats a first world problem. So even for gaming its still ok, just not the best.
Would love to see the SupePi test and games redone with Kingston CUDIMM since these chips gain massive performance with Clocked Memory. I've seen the Ultra 9 285k get close to the 7800X3D in games with CUDIMM. Btw best honest review I've seen so far, everyone else is throwing hissy fits these are not doing well in gaming as of yet. But you are as cool as a cucumber lol.
Tbank you for the comment. 🍻
I hear you and also think, there's no need to take a CPUs performance personal. Still a fun platforn for tuning, with good productivity, performance and improved power consumption
Im just here for control
Great CPU for someone who knows about tuning. Intel and AMD are pretty much tied right now....Just got my 9950X and with a very mild tune(PBO,DDR5 6400 CL30....GB6- 3555/24791 After tuning properly should hit 3600/26000 easy.
Best 285K review on the internet hands down
🔥 Now that's a truly awesome thing to say/write. Thank you sincerely. Glad it was meaningful to you in some way 🍻
You must be userbenchmark.
No AMD fanboy but hello? X3D or 9950x don't exist or what.
@@wreckage-vs5jv Okay, and what would putting those chips in do for us? This video is him investigating the 285K. He even took the time to provide some tuned CPU data. All this video is, is him showing us what the 285K is about. He’s not arguing about whether or not one should buy it or not. Adding other CPUs that he didn’t readily have on hand achieves nothing. He didn’t have to provide data for any CPU aside from the 285K if he didn’t want to.
Testing at 720p 😂
@lake1guy er... Yes how else do you elimate GPU bottleneck? All good though, stay clownin' in the comments, 🤡
Thanks😊
Giving AMD a run for their money. I'm going to buy one right now.
For productivity apps the CPU is very capable, despite only 24 cores. Power efficiency also seems much improved.
Would have been great to compare this is a curve optimized Ryzen 9000 CPU. If you optimize a CPU, it needs to be compared to other optimized CPUs.
Since when is that a rule of any kind?
The graphs show you the performance of a particular CPU. Yours is to determine if that performance is worth the price for you that's all. It's not a versus
@@TheOverclockerMagazine ohh yes you are right. So it's OK to compare a fully tuned car to another and claim one is much better, I see your logic is sound.
I really want the 265k...I only game in 4k.
Everyone should! You can run it in a van or tent with solar/battery power. Saves the planet. If you care you won't buy the 9800x3d.
Effect of CPU at 4K is diminished in favor of the GPU so there shouldn't be much difference between 265K, 285K or most other high end CPUs
I've got both a 265K and 285K. 100% get the 265K. The chip has better latency than the 285K by about 5ns. I got mine down to 63ns and I can't get below 67-68ns on my 285K. This has to do with the core arrangement. In games, I can't tell a difference. The 265K is a banger at productivity as well, getting well over 39K in CB23 when optimized and OC.
@@TalonsTech amazing to see people finally tuning their arrow lake cpus properly.. everybody else runs it on stock settings and crap on these cpus.
@@TalonsTech Crazy how a lot of these reviewers are sucking off the new X3D chips so hard right now when they still blow ass in Productivity task. Literally almost every review of the 9800X3D I've seen so far just mention gaming and the few honest reviewers show the Ultra beating the 9800X3D in Single and Multithread apps. Its like people forgot you can do other things with a PC besides game. 265k Is more then enough for me gaming at 4K.
wow I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was this bad. What a shitty product my 13900ks on 3800 bdie looks like a stud compared to this shit lol. Thanks for the review I was looking for the aida data
Well nobody will buy 13th 14th for half the money now they admitted quick degradation issues.
Numbers say otherwise as 13th and 14th Gen continue to sell. Don't mistake YT comments and forums as representing the entire market. Less than 5% of people had issues with their CPUs. Moreover the issue has been mitigated now. At the reduced prices 14th and 13th Gen represent great value.
@@TheOverclockerMagazine Lucky guy I am I'd win that lottery.
Shouldnt you be comparing it to the 14900k or is there a reason for using 14700k
The 14700K is the CPU I had on hand.
Why do Intel bothered released this garbage anyway? I thought rocket lake’s launch was bad enough already
You do know you don't have to buy this right? Intel didn't release this to hurt your feelings.
To give everyone else that does other things with their PC besides gaming a chip that whops that garbage X3D's ass. Now go cry about it AMD fanboy.
So we tune 'this and that' so it sucks less. Fine but that still doesn't make it a great processor.
Compared to AMD it's in fact miles off from being great...
Are you sharing your general sentiments on the CPU or responding to what was said? Because if it's a response, understand that at no point did I say this is a great CPU in general. I presented a nuanced perspective based on the mumbers recorded. It is good in particular applications, and not up to scratch in gaming. Intel has made strides in power efficiency and productivity applications but has gone backwards in raw gaming performance.
This can't be that tough to understand.
A one trick pony X3D doesn't make a great processor either these Ultra chips kick AMD's ass in everything besides gaming no OC needed.
@@thetheoryguy5544 WHAHAHHAH🤣
Comparisons with 9600X only? Just remove AMD from the lot if you want to compare Intel CPUs but if you do - it is all bull.. no 9700X, 9950X, 7800X3D etc???
Calm down mate.. If you don't like it move on. Go and start the channel where you will do all that great analysis. All the best 😇
@@TheOverclockerMagazine The purpose of your video is to make a wise decision to choose a cpu and you dismally failed on that aspect unless what you are doing is post anything that piqued your interest, YT watchers be damned.
@@Hyperion1722That's your first mistake.
1. You don't get to tell me what my purpose is. I define that, hence it's my channel.. Not yours.
2. I don't do this for you, but me. Those who find value in what I do will stay, those who don't will go. It isn't complicated or difficult at all.
3. Go and find what appeals to you. Do not waste your time or life on things you don't like. You deserve better than that.
All the best to you and thanks for the comments 🍻
Who comes to a review to cry LMAO!! Make your own review if you dont like it kiddo!! ✌️🇺🇲