When you can do 90% of the job with 50% less power, and cooler, which as a whole means with cheaper psu, cooling, and even motherboard - then it's better. And btw you know that these 14000 cpus will be underclocked pretty soon LOOL while these 9000 Ryzens aren't even driver optimized and OCd properly yet LOOL
@@Mr11ESSE111 And which one isn't crap for you? Maybe Intel's MEGA CRAP 13th and 14th gen?! LOL If this super efficient cpu build on the latest technology is crab then idk man i guess everything is crap for you and in your life, including your self!
No need to take it personal or want to fight. It's ok, you can feel and think what you want about the CPUs. You are entitled to that, like everybody else is. It's ok to not agree on a product
@@chovekb I agreed with you until you attacked someone for thinking differently, while you are correct that the power used and the heat generated, in my view means its alot better than alot of the CPUs, if you go by pure numbers like FPS in games, sure, the 7800x3d will beat it, but only in games that use 3d cache fully, which is not many of them....which shows in benchmarks, where the differences are not that different, while it may lose or win SLIGHTLY against the 7800x3d, you need to look at the temps and power used too, it allows you to spend less on the PSU and the cooler as well. I would gladly take a 5-10fps hit to performance for a 10-20c cooler cpu. My mate has a similar set to me, but he got the 9700x and i got the 7800x3d and we get similar fps, sometimes mine wins, sometimes, his wins, but the one thing he always on is the heat generated, when we play for an extended time, my cpu is at 70-75c, depending on the game, while my mate's cpu is at 60-65c, depending on the game. It all depends on what you want to do, do you want just pure fps, go for the 7800x3d, if you want a cooler cpu, while not minding the minor losses to fps, but a 10-20c cooler cpu? go with the 9700x. It is down to preference....i for one, plan to replace my 7800x3d with a 9700x, its just a cooler cpu and the games i play are roughly the same fps or just slightly higher or lower, nothing to care about.
When you can do 90% of the job with 50% less power, and cooler, which as a whole means with cheaper psu, cooling, and even motherboard - then it's better. And btw you know that these 14000 cpus will be underclocked pretty soon LOOL while these 9000 Ryzens aren't even driver optimized and OCd properly yet LOOL
its crap cpu!!performance are shit and with oclock or pbo only consumption raise
@@Mr11ESSE111 And which one isn't crap for you? Maybe Intel's MEGA CRAP 13th and 14th gen?! LOL If this super efficient cpu build on the latest technology is crab then idk man i guess everything is crap for you and in your life, including your self!
@@chovekb your head are crap!!go buy that overpriced shit then even you got much cheaper as 7700/x or much better for same price as 7900/x or 7800x3d
No need to take it personal or want to fight. It's ok, you can feel and think what you want about the CPUs. You are entitled to that, like everybody else is. It's ok to not agree on a product
@@chovekb I agreed with you until you attacked someone for thinking differently, while you are correct that the power used and the heat generated, in my view means its alot better than alot of the CPUs, if you go by pure numbers like FPS in games, sure, the 7800x3d will beat it, but only in games that use 3d cache fully, which is not many of them....which shows in benchmarks, where the differences are not that different, while it may lose or win SLIGHTLY against the 7800x3d, you need to look at the temps and power used too, it allows you to spend less on the PSU and the cooler as well.
I would gladly take a 5-10fps hit to performance for a 10-20c cooler cpu.
My mate has a similar set to me, but he got the 9700x and i got the 7800x3d and we get similar fps, sometimes mine wins, sometimes, his wins, but the one thing he always on is the heat generated, when we play for an extended time, my cpu is at 70-75c, depending on the game, while my mate's cpu is at 60-65c, depending on the game.
It all depends on what you want to do, do you want just pure fps, go for the 7800x3d, if you want a cooler cpu, while not minding the minor losses to fps, but a 10-20c cooler cpu? go with the 9700x.
It is down to preference....i for one, plan to replace my 7800x3d with a 9700x, its just a cooler cpu and the games i play are roughly the same fps or just slightly higher or lower, nothing to care about.