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Benchmark Odysseys
Добавлен 7 ноя 2023
Simulator enthusiast, long-time racer, and computer hardware geek. Welcome to my channel!
Here you will find performance analysis and benchmarking results for some of the leading simulators.
Reach out if you have questions, insights, and definitely tell me if you see errors with my results!
Here you will find performance analysis and benchmarking results for some of the leading simulators.
Reach out if you have questions, insights, and definitely tell me if you see errors with my results!
MSI Afterburner (default values) to blame.
Disabling 'Power Monitoring' or completely exiting the app will decrease stutters and increase smooth racing.
00:00 Intro
01:49 Examples
04:18 Disable Power Monitoring
05:05 VR benchies
06:56 Triple Screen benchies
08:36 EVGA Precision X1
09:11 Support this content!
00:00 Intro
01:49 Examples
04:18 Disable Power Monitoring
05:05 VR benchies
06:56 Triple Screen benchies
08:36 EVGA Precision X1
09:11 Support this content!
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Видео
RENNSPORT - Which graphics card wins?
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.Месяц назад
A look at GPU performance with RENNSPORT beta (1.8.12). Patreon Support: www.patreon.com/benchmarkodysseys Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:40 Graphics Cards 01:26 Triples? 01:49 System Specs 02:44 Tracks 04:27 Anti-Aliasing 05:54 Super Sampling 06:27 1080p 07:41 1440p 08:24 4K 09:12 Dual 4K 10:37 Thank you supporters!
Where did my fps go?
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.Месяц назад
Performance comparison between Season 2 and Season 3 within iRacing. Patreon = patreon.com/BenchmarkOdysseys 00:00 Intro 00:54 -28% change 01:46 Setup 02:48 Algarvea FPS 04:42 EnableGPUParticles 05:36 Algarve Frametimes 08:29 Okayama FPS 08:55 Okayama Frametimes 11:16 Class 3 Graphics 13:03 Conclusion
Will your computer be ready?
Просмотров 2 тыс.2 месяца назад
Performance analysis of CPUs in RENNSPORT. Patreon Webpage: www.patreon.com/BenchmarkOdysseys 00:00 Intro 00:51 TY supporters! 01:34 Test Config 02:56 Projection Correction 04:34 1080p 09:03 3440x1440 10:02 5120x1440 11:57 7680x2160 13:10 PresentMon 13:56 Please support :)
Ryzen + Radeon advantage? (Part 2)
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.2 месяца назад
Patreon support link: www.patreon.com/BenchmarkOdysseys Part 2 analysis with Radeon RX 7900 XTX compared to GeForce RTX 4080 Super. Triple screen testing, ReBar and SAM analysis, and preview of VR performance. 00:00 Intro 00:57 Thank you supporters! 02:34 Part 1 - Correction 3:53 VR with Radeon 06:47 ReBAR and SAM 07:45 Dual 4K 08:21 Triple 1440p 10:30 Triple 4K 11:47 PresentMon 2.0 13:21 SMP A...
7900 XTX performance analysis with iRacing (Part 1)
Просмотров 5 тыс.3 месяца назад
Patreon support link: www.patreon.com/BenchmarkOdysseys Is the Radeon experience really as bad as everyone claims? I take a deep dive into iRacing with the 7900 XTX tested across 4 resolutions to understand how well it stacks up to the competition, the GeForce 4080 Super. 00:00 timestamps 00:50 Patreon is live! 01:55 System Specs 03:28 iRacing Graphics 03:44 Single 4K 06:18 7680x2160 08:16 No T...
GPU rivals face-off in ACC
Просмотров 4,3 тыс.4 месяца назад
Using 4 benchmarks (including Nordschleife) with Assetto Corsa Competizione, I pit the Radeon RX 7900 XTX (XFX Merc 310 Black) against the the GeForce RTX 4800 Super (Gigabyte OC). Testing includes Single 4K and Triple 1080p, Triple 1440p, and Triple 4K (using Nvidia Surround and AMD Eyefinity). 00:00 Intro 00:32 Thank you subs! 01:28 Testing Specs 02:35 Why no iRacing?! 04:15 ACC Graphics Sett...
iRacing VR with 8 CPUs
Просмотров 5 тыс.4 месяца назад
Intel vs. AMD with another round of benchmarking in iRacing. This time I'm using VR with my Valve Index and testing 5 different scenarios. 00:00 Intro 01:00 Thank you subs! 02:45 Learn about VR benchies 03:25 Hardware Summary 04:30 'Normal' Production Car Challenge 10:05 'Rain' Open Wheelers 12:35 'Difficult' IMSA 14:35 'Very Rainy' GT3 17:26 'Torture' Daytona Night 18:37 Thank you for watching!
How to understand VR performance with iRacing
Просмотров 8 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Learn how to read frametime charts, understand impact of Motion Smoothing, and see how CPU GPU work together when rendering VR. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:43 Thank you subs! 02:14 VR Stutters 04:00 fpsVR 05:53 Motion Smoothing 08:29 Benchmark Explained 13:07 Example 1 15:48 Example 2 17:49 Example 3 19:07 Example 4 20:32 Example 5
10 Tracks Benched with 4080 Super on Triple Screens
Просмотров 6 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Dive down deep into performance analysis with me using a GeForce RTX 4080 Super 16GB with iRacing! Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:09 Ty subs! 02:00 Memory Bus Chart 04:02 GF Drivers, what do I do? 05:40 Charlotte Speedway 08:07 Charlotte Roval 09:13 Daytona 10:39 Mugello 12:28 Red Bull Ring 13:22 Rudskogen 14:27 Sebring 15:53 Suzuka 17:17 Talladega 18:42 Zandvoort 20:05 Summary Charts 21:59 FSR and ...
Triple Screens and 4K with RTX 4080 Super in Sim Racing
Просмотров 11 тыс.5 месяцев назад
I bench the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 Super OC 16GB through four of the best racing simulators available: Assetto Corsa, Competizione, AMS2, and iRacing. 00:00 Intro 00:28 Gigabyte 4080 Super OC 16GB 02:39 Competition 04:10 Sub for Radeon 04:37 System Specs 05:50 AMS2 08:17 Assetto Corsa 09:45 Performance Anomaly 11:47 Discord coming 12:20 ACC 14:56 iRacing 19:14 Conclusion
(unannounced) Liquid Freezer III from Arctic Cooling
Просмотров 4,7 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Here's the FIRST picture and information on the newest AIO liquid cooler from Arctic Cooling: Liquid Freezer III 420. It was unannounced at the time this video was published. Features include: LGA 1700 contact frame Native AMD Offset mounting (5mm) 60 PWM-controlled VRM fan Newly developed PWM-controlled pump Cold plate with larger fin surface Same 450mm fabric-covered hose Fan cables integrate...
Radeon 6700xt vs. GeForce 3060ti in Sim Racing on Single & Triple Screens
Просмотров 8 тыс.6 месяцев назад
I'm running benchmarks on four of the best simulators available: AMS2, AC, ACC, and iRacing. The graphics cards being tested are the XFX Merc 319 Radeon RX 6700XT 12GB, and the ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB. Both are popular cards and can easily be found on the used market for under $300. Testing is performed on Intel Core i7-13700K running DDR5 7200 via Gigabyte mobo. 00:00 Intro 00:27 The ...
Assetto Corsa (LFM) Triples tested with 8 CPUs!
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Using replays from official Low Fuel Motorsports races, I benchmark eight CPUs at triple screen and single screen resolutions. AMD Ryzen: R7 2700, R5 5600, R7 5800X3D, R5 7600X, R7 7800X3D Intel Core: i7 9700K, i5 12600K, i7 13700K Resolutions: Single 1440p, Single 4K, Triple 1080p, Triple 1440p, Surround 4K 0:00 Intro 1:38 Content Manager 2:43 In-Game Benchmark 4:13 LFM, SOL, Pure 5:19 AC Conf...
ACC - 8 CPUs tested on Triple Screens
Просмотров 8 тыс.8 месяцев назад
Benchmarking of Assetto Corsa Competizione with 8 CPUs using three monitors. Performance results include single screen, triple screen, and Nvidia Surround. 0:00 Intro 0:59 Gaming CPU Specifications 2:15: System Configurations 2:40 ACC Graphics Setup 3:36 CPU Benchmark Explanation 4:20 GPU Busy Explanation 5:49 Nvidia Surround Analysis 8:38 iRacing Nvidia Surround Performance 9:37 ACC Single 108...
Triple Screens: 8 CPU's Tested with iRacing
Просмотров 25 тыс.8 месяцев назад
Triple Screens: 8 CPU's Tested with iRacing
Quest 3: 6 CPUs Tested with iRacing!
Просмотров 10 тыс.9 месяцев назад
Quest 3: 6 CPUs Tested with iRacing!
Thanks to the algo, I haven't even looking for GPU content for a few weeks, but here I am. I need a new laptop and don't have desktop. Never had gaming spec stuff. My next monitor will need to be the 57" dual 4K Samsung. It's so much more affordable than the watches and cars I lust for... What laptop specs might run dual 4K at 100 FPS in iracing at a detail level with 4K? Else, how might it look dialed down to 1440P leaving it to the monitor to scale up dumbly or cleverly? I don't know how clever they've made the monitor, but Samsung does have upscaling stuff in-house.
i love finding exactly what im looking for:) I got a PC RD 7900xtx and thinking of switching to a 4080 super. Thank you!
Glad I could help ya :)
This is the first time I saw somebody talking the science diference between flat screens and VR regards to hertz and fps relationship. I made a video about Flight simulators taking exactly the same approach named "X-Plane 12 - The VR BIBLE - for Quest 3 and Quest 2" Thanks for sharing that amount of knowledge This channel really deserve more views
i need u to upgrade your vr headset to like psvr 2 or reveb g2 at minimum
Increasing render resolution shifts the computation burden to the GPU. That's why I tested at lower resolution, to avoid a GPU bottleneck. Most reviewers of CPUs for pancake gaming will use 1080p to showcase the differences. Benchmarking at 4K usually isn't insightful (techpowerup always does that, check their CPU reviews). But VR is more complicated than monitor gaming. So it would be interesting to know if CPUs do perform similar when bound to GPU performance.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys valve index have the lowest resolution look very bad i hade it and returned it after few hours of use i have now psvr 2 for my ps5 so i was wondering what kind of gpu should i get dont want to spend to much either is there any gpu around 5-600 that can make it run flawlessly? without sacrifice resolution and fps to much
@@rinkumultani6515 Yes I agree, Valve Index does feel 'dated' now. Mine is very dependable, however, and always works even when Quest 3 lets me down. "Without sacrifice" and "flawless" are not reasonable goals with VR racing, especially with iRacing. For example, I have helped multiple users with RTX 4090, and compromises in settings and quality always have to be made. The fastest GeForce card you can afford will be the best option for VR and iRacing.
You can't imagine how these videos help us to decide what to do with our money!
120hz? No dice without upgrading to a new platform from my 5800X. Thanks for the useful information.
Super video! I currently run 10600K on iRacing VR and it just isn't cutting it. Updating to 7800x3D
Very interesting. 1% lows are interesting. Very little difference unless you are on different architecture. A 12600k or even a 12400k would offer fantastic value with very little difference in 1% lows.
I'm really interested in AMS2, thanks for the benchmark, It would be great if you did a CPU benchmark like you did for ACC, I'm trying to check if my 10400f is holding me back.
I was looking for your other video comparing different games with the mid-level NVIDIA vs mid-level AMD as I remember some sims preferring one over the other. Like iRacing preferred AMD while ACC preferred NVIDIA. Was wondering if you plan to do a similar test for Le Mans Ultimate? Like if you mainly run LMU and want to get the best mid-level card for that sim are you better off going with an NVIDIA or AMD? For triples I was thinking, but would really be interested in whatever results. There's a couple funny things happening with like mirrors costing next to nothing, but going from Medium special effects to High bringing a system to it's knees.
I have now 11700 with 2x16gb@4000Mhz + 3080ti. Should i buy 7500f/7700/7800x3d(130$, 200$, 370$) for 3440x1440@144hz?
Hrmm, tough call. You'd have to step up to 7800X3D to really feel the difference. But 9800X3D is just around the corner, maybe January?
@@BenchmarkOdysseys i think i can sell my setup, buy now 7700 and change in the future to 9700x3d/9800x3d
@@Sceapt That sounds reasonable. I think the 7700 will have better resell value than 7500f. The 7600X I used for benching, is one I bought used from someone who upgraded to X3D. Sometimes I forget I have it installed and not the 7800X3D. The performance advantage of X3D only shows itself during the most intense racing scenarios.
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thanks dude!
Exactly what I'm looking for. Keep the good work up! Subscribed.
Hi great video. Do you think a rtx 3070 can run triple 1440p 32 inch proper ?
Thanks. Yes you can do Triple 1440p with 3070, but you will have to make sacrifices and the VRAM may be an issue with large, multi-class fields.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys thank you 🙏🏾. What monitor are you running ?
@@youngbeliz6177 My triples are Gigabyte M28U IPS 4K 144Hz. Performance is acceptable, no quality issues. There's a bit more smearing/ghosting than I expected.
MSI Afterburner has been causing stuttering for years, I surprised it took you this long to figure out, no offense. I used to be an avid user of MSI Afterburner, but after so many issues of it causing crashes in specific games, I started defaulting to have MSI Afterburner closed, and performance across all my games was way more stable.
None taken. If I was afraid to be wrong, I wouldn't publish content to YT lol
precicely because of similar problems like this i have for years now, during normal gaming sessions, completely shut down all 3rd party tools & programs that i can. i do not need an overlay during gameplay at all!. the only time i use rtss / afterburner is for initial testing of settings of new games to find my preferred performance corridor to enjoy the gameplay. with a nice balance between fps and visual quality.
How did you connect the 7900xtx to 3 monitors? Specifically the USBc. Did you use a usbc to DP or hdmi cable?
The 7900 XTX I tested (XFX Speedster) has 3 DP outputs and 1 HDMI, so I didn't use adapters. You can buy cables that go USBc to HDMI or DP, usually +$30 USD because you need high bandwidth if driving 4K at 144Hz.
This is so helpful. I have a 4070 super and an i4700k and my frames are struggling. This confirms I really need a new CPU like, yesterday, for my triple 1440 setup
Heh, well you're nearly at the top of the current CPU lineup with 14700K. Maybe the unannounced 9800X3D will be a worthy upgrade.
You are one of a few people who know what you are talking about. Thank you. Let me add. My intensive experience is also frustrating. The complexity is even greater as VR performance varies per track, and the biggest problem is consistency. In my VR quest 3, some tracks are awesome, but at one turn, I get that annoying stuttering. My conclusion is that with a less perfect setup, it is kind of too hard to achieve a good VR experience. Lowering settings does not eliminate issues but just lowers them a little. You need a 4090, which I have, and the fastest CPU available with wifi 6e .... to have a near-optimal experience. VR is still a way from being perfect. Let's not forget that iRacing may need to optimize some of the tracks for VR, especially during fog and rain. My experience is the best VR projection software is Steam, but it requires a lot of CPU power. Note that Steam shines, especially with openXR. Still, the best for iRacing is the quest link cable, with OpenXR, which provides the lowest latency. Once I upgrade my CPU, I should use Quest link cable+, openXR toolkit, +Steam for projection, and iRacing, all on maxed-up settings. Yes, the experience is close to real driving 🚗. A small interesting observation is once latency is low, the control of the car becomes so amazing. That is what all top racers have, but they avoid mentioning it much. You feel immediately once the car oversteers, and correcting that becomes much easier. Sure not less than 120fps.
honestly this is the best video out there covering this topic. Thanks man you are a legend for all that work and effort that you put in here. im also running AMD Hardware 5800x3d and a XFX 6950XT and im struggleing with my FPS on triple 1440p. 3 Projection mode kost me around 20-35FPS but for me it is iorth because the emersion feels way better.
Will the RTX 4060TI on triples 1080p get good FPS
Yes. It is about 10% faster than my 3060 Ti results.
Precision X1 had hope, but then EVGA threw in the towel (sadge). What headset do you use?
afterburner or in german arschbrenner! .. 😂😂😂 is only useless old, nothing for oc or uv or optimizing, the best software is amd adrenaline! (joke) iam a linux gamer nohing goes over corectrl
i still have a 9700k with 3070ti. maybe i dont need to upgrade yet then.
I'm a firm believer in there are too many polling type events that are happening. IRQ events, so to speak. Too many of these interruption events are preventing computers from working as expected and to their potential.
Since this video I've fallen into a bit of rabbit hole researching. This type of trouble shooting is a lot to ask of a 'normal' sim racer. However, we use a lot of USB devices, plus 3rd party software of varying sophistication and quality, and iRacing is always going to slam a couple CPU cores. Then there's the user requirement for smooth, perpetual forward motion across 3 screens or VR... and it's a recipe for a stutter stew! I would need to find a way to clearly capture the stuttering, especially if the 'on screen' image is the only real evidence. The only thing I can think of is a high speed camera like rtings use to collect motion tests on monitors. It's not a small undertaking. And I worry that the results won't be interesting or consumable.
Thanks for informing me that I can use 1440p triples instead of 1080p with my 5600x. Also, thank you for letting me know that the upgrade to the 5800x3d doesn't provide as much as I figured it would! Definitely considering an upgrade to one of the newer AM5 processors being released soon.
5800x3d will help a lot with 1% and 0.1% Lows which means smoother frames i m on 5600x and i was about to upgrade to 5800x3d but i ll stay a little more.
Great vid and defo helping this newb understand a bit more… currently on a build and have purchased a 7800xt 16gb gpu and wanting to pull the trigger on cpu with the 7600x being top of the list at $190 and if balling then the 7800x3d for $380. Problem is after seeing this vid the gains appear to be minimal for the extra cost or am I missing something? Thanks in advance 🙏
Thanks dude. Scenarios in which the sim becomes very burdened with CPU load, the 3D V-Cache on the 7800X3D can prove to be a big advantage (multi-class, lots of buildings). But the boost clock is higher for the 7600X, so that negates some of the gains. The refresh to AMD Ryzen is coming out next week, maybe 15% gains but pricing will be high. $300 for 9600X which is waaay too high. $190 for 7600X is a great buy.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys thanks you so much for the quick reply!! I had thought as much… will push ahead with the 7600x and if really needed I can upgrade down the line. Again thanks for the great vid 🙏✌️
So what your saying is that I need to upgrade my cpu from ryzen 7 to threadripper 5995wx and gpu from 6750xt to 7900 xtx? Lol.
heh yeah, throwing more horsepower into a car usually leads to a faster lap time. But in the case of iRacing, X3D V-Cache is better than a gazillion cores from a threadripper, and GeForce has an advantage over Radeon with SPS rendering technique.
It would be awesome to do this for VR ❤😮
Hi, by any chance do you have a 4070 ti super too?😅
Hello. I checked the couch cushions, but nope, didn't find a 4070ti super :) I like that it has a 256 bit memory bus, unlike the other 4070 models, and that will help with larger resolutions (like triple 1440p and beyond). The rest of its specs seem to line up with it's pricing position in the 40 series lineup.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys I want to buy one in the near future for a triple screen 1440p setup and I want to gather as much information as possible 😄
What's the performance difference with 4070 Super (I have) vs 7800XT (want to try) with 2k 32" triples, I gotta know?!
Never mind the question, I sorted out the answer and information I was looking for! Good tech iRacing graphical information that other's just touch upon when they have to but, their information is still lacking! As 10 year iRacing member, it's time for an overhaul.
wtf with pedo mustache? u blind?
sleep well young prince
I get stuttering 24/7 at night Spa dry races even when FPS is 130, it’s really annoying and takes away the fun. When everything is butter smooth I forget that it’s a game but when stutters happen I say: Damn it’s obvious just a game. I’m not an expert regarding these things to find the cause but have Geforce experience running but it ran previous season also without any problem so don’t think that’s the issue. I think 99% it’s an iRacing problem with those latest updates you mentioned in the beginning of the vid…
Interesting... I struggled with stutters on a Gsync 120Hz TV but fixed them (I think) by switching GSync off for iRacing, setting the TV to 60Hz and turning VSync on in iRacing and locking to 59fps in RTSS. I don't see why we should have to stop using Afterburner (for underclocking and custom fan curve in my case) just to use iRacing smoothly. The stutters I see happen mostly on newer tracks like Circuito de Navarra, so I'm not sure if it's also down to optimisation perhaps on iRacing's end.
Interesting, I do not have experience with Gysnc TV. What I noticed with Afterburner, however, is that a lot of parameters were selected for monitoring (even with at default) and a few have latency spikes for the 4080S and 3080Ti I tested. If you don't notice a difference in stutters when Afterburner opened or closed, then you do not need to investigate further.
What about Geforce experience ? And Rivatuner statistics server ? The first I use for max fan control rather then auto fan when it’s hot weather and 2nd use for capping my FPS…
I do not install GeForce Experience on my benching systems, I just use the standalone driver. Other ways to cap the FPS include within the Nvidia Control Panel (Manage 3D Settings -> Program Settings -> Find and select 'iracingsim64dx11.exe' then scroll to Max Frame Rate), or within iRacing itself.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys I did both but had also not smooth experience with capping on those 2… had best experience with Rivatuner but yeah iRacing update messed it up
Hey mate,u seen to have a queat 3 and a 4080 also Any tips on setting ot up for iracing and how to run the headset Thanks Jamie
Hey :) There's a few different ways to do it: Link Cable, Air Link, and Virtual Desktop. Each has benefits and challenges, and each can be customized in different ways. There are a couple big threads on the official forums talking about that in detail. When it comes to iRacing settings, a lot of that boils down to your personal preferences. The general approach is start with 'low' settings and work your way up. Quest 3 is a great headset and totally worth the patience to get it running good.
Can anyone explain what "Frame Re-projection" is exactly? Hardware is trying to recreate something it missed?
I have only GPU temp monitoring checked and polling is 2000ms also you can entirely pause monitoring if you right click on the graphs, on my MSI skin I can click DETACH and show graphs and you can pause it forever this way
Have you tried it with any other hardware monitoring programs? HWinfo64, AIDA64, OCCT...? Are the stutters a result of contention for the resources, or is the monitoring software too aggressive, or too inconsiderate in how it polls the hardware?
I have not (yet) experimented with other programs. Other commenters suggest HWinfo can produce this polling issue, perhaps AIDA64 as well.
user error. you have 500 things being polled/tracked in afterburner, of course its going to cause lag/stutters
What about geforce experience ?
@@bmwM3M5M6 thats full of telemetry. nobody should be using geforce experience
@@cloudnine5651 But when I uninstalled it, I really didn’t noticed any differance regarding performance and stuttering… why is that then ?
@@bmwM3M5M6 uninstallation doesnt always equate to all services being turned off. you would have to compare to a fresh never installed upon system
@@cloudnine5651 Damn that’s tooo much work then. I’ll pass and hope for iRacing that they fix their sim
“MSI Afterburner is to blame,” but this issue also occurs with Precision X and HWINFO64. These problems have persisted since the release of the 3000 series and have never been resolved. Most of us who have encountered this issue simply shut down any monitoring tools before starting a VR gaming session. This problem has been around for so long that I’ve stopped looking for a solution and just accepted that it’s easier to close these apps and move on. Thank you for addressing this issue. Hopefully, it will gain some traction and eventually get fixed. Ideally, we shouldn’t have to choose between monitoring our hardware and having a smooth VR experience.
Thanks dude. I've changed the title to be less misleading.
@Nikos4life What about geforce experience ? And Rivatuner statistics server ?
@@bmwM3M5M6 I do not use them anymore so I can not give you an update on those, but you know ymmv... try and see if there is a better experience otherwise go back using them, GFE I do not expect to generate any issues tbh, RTSS not sure though.
a bit misleading, I agree that 3rd party apps can introduce weirdness as for you in this case, but to blame is iRacing and its engine and nothing else
I've changed the title to be less misleading. You are right, there is still more stuttering in iRacing than previous seasons, and this driver stutter from polling GPU power makes it unplayable.
@@BenchmarkOdysseysYes normally I get 230 Watts but sometimes i only get 180 Watts…
Well, read the manual, read the forum. If you add sensors for no reason and especially those who have a high polling time sure it is having an impact. It's not the software itself, but how you configure it. In the Monitoring Panel of MSI Afterburner you can right click and enable the profiler panel which will show you exactly which sensor takes how much time to poll. Especially external sensors like those by perfcounter.dll have a huge impact. Use only those which you do need, preferably the internal ones and untick every other sensor. FPS, Frametime, GPU temp, GPU load, CPU temp and CPU load are not heavy and won't give you a noticeable impact while gaming.
Thank you for the info! I've confirmed "GPU1 power percent" as the leading culprit.
@@BenchmarkOdysseys just an addendum, when you are not using MSI AB for monitoring but RTSS overlay. When you are in the OverlayEditor and opened the "Add new data sources" dialog, hold CTRL and instead of the value of the sensor you get the polling time of each sensor value. So even there you can already inspect if the sensor you are about to add will have a significant impact.
i think the problem is that these are polled as per default. which is not optimal. rather have users who REALLY need power sensors in their overlays read the manual and configure it to add these. than having ALL users have the performance heavy situation right from default installation.
Learn how to use MSI AB's performance profiler panel. It is not Afterburner, it is PEBCAK user to blame. Experienced users know how to troubleshoot issues like that and MSI AB contains the most detailed diagnostic tools for that.
If I had a nickle for every PEBCAK moment I have, I could upgrade to a 4090 :D
@@BenchmarkOdysseys if I had a nickel each time MSI AB & RTSS is blamed due to wrong reasons and I have to comment it, I'd be richer than Rockefeller. :D
Some sensors (like power or voltage) can have quite high latencies. The GPU driver can stall (it's the driver that actually does the polling when Afterburner or HWinfo or whatever requests it.) You can enable the sensor overhead calculator in Afterburner to see which sensor group is problematic and disable those. Although as always, it doesn't make sense to keep playing with monitoring software running. Use them only initially to find the performance sweetspot for your system, and after that's done, keep them closed.
@RealNC Cheers mate! I will confirm the latency issues. Great reminder about closing unnecessary apps, especially when you've signed into a race and can't do anything about it until the finish line. [Edit] Yup, definitely "GPU power percent" at a constant 14ms and spike even higher.
Can also confirm this issue. Happens/happend in DR 2.0 with a 3080 Ti and a Pico Neo Link. Must have something to do with Nvidia drivers. Had been using it for years without any issues. Tried many old drivers but unfortunatly without luck. Also disabled all monitoring. Had to uninstall Afterburner.
Yeah, afterburner/rivatuner have been doing this for 10 years. This is nothing new. Almost all monitoring software can/does cause this.
i have stutters, and don't have afterburner running.
@vx220ukct it’s just iracing thing
In my case stutters were caused by running Virtual Desktop with max bitrate. I have installed VD months ago and have forgot there is still a known issue that is mentioned in Virtual Desktop Discord announcements that relates to Quest 3 and NVidia. Running at lower recommended bitrates has solved my stutter issue. In my case these stutters, when they appeared, were exactly 20 seconds apart.
@@opminded interesting! Is 500 low enough?
@@BenchmarkOdysseys I use AV1 codec and in VD maximum for AV1 and HEVC is 200 Mbits. My router can handle this no problem. But there is a known issue: "AV1/HEVC encoding with Nvidia GPUs will sometimes cause high decoding/networking/encoding times at at high bitrates". They recommend lowering HEVC 10bit bitrate to 150 and AV1 to around 120. I followed this recommendation and these 20 second apart stutters disappeared.
@@opminded Gotcha. I haven't experimented with VD yet, I'm a bit intimidated by its customization. But the wired connection I've been using with my Quest 3 is becoming finicky (random alerts of debris in the port), and I don't trust it for long stints like this upcoming 24 Spa race. Maybe it's time I jump into the VD pool.