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Neonic force if you want more power, Ballr Pro for more control

Mark One and Pickln Alecto Blue are great hybrid options. Volair Mach 2 Forza for a widebody option

The R2 is a bit slower for a standard shape paddle but it's about the same swingweight wise compared to the hybrid shaped DBD

Yea unfortunately I wasn't able to get one on time

Nope that's a very outdated paddle. There are many other better options out there

Yes it's pretty similar

I do 0.1 oz of lead at the 4 and 8 positions

Wasn't able to hit it unfortunately. I don't own one and they're currently sold out/won't release until later

White sleeveless shirt indoors is using Volair Mach 2 Forza. Grey sleeveless shirt outdoors is using the Mark Kinetic

@@TickleMyPickleball ah was looking at the outdoor dude. Great looking paddle he's using

I've actually done one on the channel already!

good point - weight differences actually mean nothing and are a myth. Science is fake !!

Crosses are not quick or slow. The crucified person is. First when you carry it up the hill. "Enough complaining about the 6x6 solid oak construction! We haven't got all day to nail you up, get the lead out!" And then again, after you are nailed onto it.

Not yet unfortunately, they just arrived

@@TickleMyPickleball i have the control on order. Currently play with the m2f. I wanted a little more pop and thought that the cfc had the pop/power but not the control.

@@sonnynos gotcha. Unfortunately I won't have time to test it until later so won't be able to let you know

Thank you! So power and pop measurements are more "feel" for me rather than a scientific test. I basically spent a lot of time hitting the paddles side by side in games, drills, and against the wall to understand how they compared. Not an accurate test but imo the testing for those measurements is never going to be perfect because of the human element. So basically it's more feel for me and just how I think they compare. Hope it helps!

I play with the M2 Forza. It's very balanced. Plush feel, control-oriented with adequate power.

Yup like mentioned earlier from the other comment. The M2 forza is less head heavy and more balanced

The R2 is fantastic

@@robedwards6926 I guess if you prefer a head heavy paddle

@LearnAtMyExpense It has a 114 swingweight .For a widebody that's a bit higher than most but it does give it more power and 114 isn't bad. I didn't think it was head heavy but I guess that's subjective.

Thanks! The R2 FX is less poppy compared to the Monarch All Court IMO. Stay tuned, I'll have a widebody comparison video coming out shortly

Spin is similar. There's more pop and power on the monarch. The feel is unique on the monarch because of the cfc but it's a bit stiffer imo

Which Thrive paddle are you referring to?

​@@TickleMyPickleball The Thrive Azul

@@robedwards6926 the Kinetic vs the Azul was a more similar comparison. The Mark paddles are noticeably softer feeling than the Azul

I actually have that one and the Jellybean coming in the mail so once I get a chance I will make an updated video

Thanks, I'll actually have a comprehensive widebody paddle comparison video coming soon 👀👀

@@TickleMyPickleball very interested in your thoughts on the new Monarch Control (kevlar). I'm trying to decide between it and a Mach 2 Forza.

@@LearnAtMyExpense they just arrived in the mail so it may be a while before I can get some thoughts

They're in the mail!

Toray Carbon Fibre is one of the top manufacturers of the Carbon Fibre that is used in most paddles. It’s basically designer carbon fibre that has the best longevity and quality. The CFC surface is just what the top layers of the 11Six24 paddles like the Hurache and Monarch are comprised of. It stands for Carbon/Fibreglass/Carbon and its unique to the 11Six24 line up. The carbon adds softness for touch and spin and the fibreglass adds more pop. So to summarize one is a manufacturer of material used by companies and the other is a paddle face layer design.

So a normal T700 carbon fiber surface is usually just multiple layers of carbon fiber while CFC is 3 layers; one layer of fiberglass sandwiched between 2 layers of carbon fiber Carbon fiber is softer feeling compared to fiberglass. Balls will pop off the surface quicker and faster on fiberglass compared to carbon fiber. This means a surface with just carbon fiber sheets will be softer feeling compared to the CFC which has the fiberglass layer giving the ball a bit more pop and power

A bit firmer but not by much

@TickleMyPickleball Oh nice, because personally I find the prism too soft.

I would say overgrip plus 0.1 oz at each 8 and 4 positions and some lead at the top of the paddle should be close

Thank you and yup I think they both come in at a solid price point. They're also pretty unique, there aren't any big name brand paddles that perform like them

Yup it's the same shape but the scorpeus is a bit quicker to swing than the j3k which is on the heavier side for a standard shape. The j3k has a softer feel off the face but it can generate more power on drives because of the heavier swingweight

@@TickleMyPickleballI guess the J3K Pro is quicker and lighter and plays similar to the Scorpeus?

@@LukasLwM no the J3 plays like the scorpeus. J3k plays like a heavier and more powerful scorpeus with more control because it's more plush J3K pro plays like the J3K but with more pop so compared to the J3/Scorpeus the Pro is heavier, more powerful, and more poppy

J1H is significantly more powerful and poppy. It's a slower paddle though with a much higher swingweight, even for an elongated shape. I would recommend the j3k pro for more people as it's got more control and a better sweet spot

@@TickleMyPickleball yes I have the J1H and it’s given me tennis elbow because of how heavy it is 😂 love the power though. Hopefully the J3K pro has decent enough power to get me through!

That's true but the Apex pro is also not thermoformed and has a shorter handle

Thanks and yup! I just got them in the mail today and will test them out this week!

The Hudef Gen 3 is a bit softer feeling than the J7K and overall is less powerful and poppy. However it has a better horizontal sweet spot

Thank you! Yup I've done them in the past but recently have instead been donating them nearby me or using paddles as prizes for local events. I may get back into it in the future but oftentimes companies only send me one paddle