Great comparison video! Looking forward to your review of the 11six24 Control and Jelly Bean. It would be great if you can mention how they stack up against the other widebody paddles using the metrics you covered in this video (pop/power, etc.). Very helpful info....thank you.
Thank you for doing this comparison. It answers some of my questions for things you can’t get by just looking at what makers provide. I was curious how you measure power and pop? Keep up the good work.
Thank you! So power and pop measurements are more "feel" for me rather than a scientific test. I basically spent a lot of time hitting the paddles side by side in games, drills, and against the wall to understand how they compared. Not an accurate test but imo the testing for those measurements is never going to be perfect because of the human element. So basically it's more feel for me and just how I think they compare. Hope it helps!
I mistakenly purchased a Ronbus R2 Pulsar without researching the balance point first. Was surprised how head heavy it was, coming from using balanced paddles. Trying to decide between these - is the Mach 2 Forza balanced evenly?
@LearnAtMyExpense It has a 114 swingweight .For a widebody that's a bit higher than most but it does give it more power and 114 isn't bad. I didn't think it was head heavy but I guess that's subjective.
Did you test out the monarch control yet?? I thought you said it was arriving in the mail soon. Just wanted to see how much power loss versus the cfc and the mach 2 forza
@@TickleMyPickleball i have the control on order. Currently play with the m2f. I wanted a little more pop and thought that the cfc had the pop/power but not the control.
Keep your eye on the neonic flare a standard face extra long handle. The 16mm should be a but more powerful than the volair forza mach 2 16mm and the 14mm prime should play about halfway between the alw 14.3 and 12.7 paddles. In all honesty the prime might be the first hardcore power paddle with a long handle but it has a super low swing weight at 104 but a twist weight of 6.9
If I used a wide body paddle it would be a higher swing weight model for added plow through on ground strokes, serves, and overheads. Swing weight can be good or bad depending on players wants.
Thank you for a review of wide-bodies. A little feedback; the action on screen was really distracting. i would rather see you and/or the paddle. Indeed the lack of any image of the paddles when you introduce each is a miss; it makes the review harder to follow.
Appreciate the feedback but unfortunately this is just the style we like to go with on our channel. We aren't experienced with video editing and prefer to show gameplay of the paddles being used while we talk over it. Maybe in the future if we can find a video editor to work with we can incorporate different styles but as of right now this will be the style we use
Crosses are not quick or slow. The crucified person is. First when you carry it up the hill. "Enough complaining about the 6x6 solid oak construction! We haven't got all day to nail you up, get the lead out!" And then again, after you are nailed onto it.
Great comparison video! Looking forward to your review of the 11six24 Control and Jelly Bean. It would be great if you can mention how they stack up against the other widebody paddles using the metrics you covered in this video (pop/power, etc.). Very helpful info....thank you.
Thank you for posting this helpful video
Another great content and comparison, how would you compare the Gruvn Lazr 16s
I haven't hit the GRUVN Lazr paddles unfortunately
Thank you for doing this comparison. It answers some of my questions for things you can’t get by just looking at what makers provide. I was curious how you measure power and pop? Keep up the good work.
Thank you! So power and pop measurements are more "feel" for me rather than a scientific test. I basically spent a lot of time hitting the paddles side by side in games, drills, and against the wall to understand how they compared.
Not an accurate test but imo the testing for those measurements is never going to be perfect because of the human element. So basically it's more feel for me and just how I think they compare. Hope it helps!
What would you say is the best paddle that is:
Biggest dwell time, with plush feel.
Speed and pop maybe somewhere like Apollo or up to 25% lower
SW:
Mark One and Pickln Alecto Blue are great hybrid options. Volair Mach 2 Forza for a widebody option
Love this type of video. Looking forward to a hybrid shape comparison video.
I've actually done one on the channel already!
I mistakenly purchased a Ronbus R2 Pulsar without researching the balance point first. Was surprised how head heavy it was, coming from using balanced paddles. Trying to decide between these - is the Mach 2 Forza balanced evenly?
I play with the M2 Forza. It's very balanced. Plush feel, control-oriented with adequate power.
Yup like mentioned earlier from the other comment. The M2 forza is less head heavy and more balanced
The R2 is fantastic
@@robedwards6926 I guess if you prefer a head heavy paddle
@LearnAtMyExpense It has a 114 swingweight .For a widebody that's a bit higher than most but it does give it more power and 114 isn't bad. I didn't think it was head heavy but I guess that's subjective.
Did you test out the monarch control yet?? I thought you said it was arriving in the mail soon. Just wanted to see how much power loss versus the cfc and the mach 2 forza
Not yet unfortunately, they just arrived
@@TickleMyPickleball i have the control on order. Currently play with the m2f. I wanted a little more pop and thought that the cfc had the pop/power but not the control.
@@sonnynos gotcha. Unfortunately I won't have time to test it until later so won't be able to let you know
Please review the Neonic Flare paddle also a wide body paddle with titanium face 16 mm
Thanks for your video. I hope to see my favorite paddle in the elongated shape video - Hudef Viva Pro Gen3.
Keep your eye on the neonic flare a standard face extra long handle. The 16mm should be a but more powerful than the volair forza mach 2 16mm and the 14mm prime should play about halfway between the alw 14.3 and 12.7 paddles. In all honesty the prime might be the first hardcore power paddle with a long handle but it has a super low swing weight at 104 but a twist weight of 6.9
Appreciate the heads up! Will hopefully get one from Neonic to try out
Awesome!! Please do elongated next!!!
Great video. I also want to hear about Hudef APEX Pro.
If I used a wide body paddle it would be a higher swing weight model for added plow through on ground strokes, serves, and overheads. Swing weight can be good or bad depending on players wants.
What paddle is the tough guy in sleeveless using?
White sleeveless shirt indoors is using Volair Mach 2 Forza. Grey sleeveless shirt outdoors is using the Mark Kinetic
@@TickleMyPickleball ah was looking at the outdoor dude. Great looking paddle he's using
Erneeee godd :P great video :)
The players in the action are constantly volleying from the kitchen.
So in those outdoor courts, the white line is the tennis service line, not the kitchen. The kitchen is the blue line in front
where do you think the fatboy places?
Wasn't able to hit it unfortunately. I don't own one and they're currently sold out/won't release until later
Bnb fatboy 😪
Yea unfortunately I wasn't able to get one on time
Thank you for a review of wide-bodies. A little feedback; the action on screen was really distracting. i would rather see you and/or the paddle. Indeed the lack of any image of the paddles when you introduce each is a miss; it makes the review harder to follow.
Appreciate the feedback but unfortunately this is just the style we like to go with on our channel. We aren't experienced with video editing and prefer to show gameplay of the paddles being used while we talk over it.
Maybe in the future if we can find a video editor to work with we can incorporate different styles but as of right now this will be the style we use
Paddles are not quick or slow. The player is.
good point - weight differences actually mean nothing and are a myth. Science is fake !!
Crosses are not quick or slow. The crucified person is. First when you carry it up the hill. "Enough complaining about the 6x6 solid oak construction! We haven't got all day to nail you up, get the lead out!" And then again, after you are nailed onto it.